Did Chris Brown throw the first punch after Frank Ocean called Rihanna a “hoe”?

I should point out that we still don’t really know what went down between Chris Brown and Frank Ocean on Sunday in West Hollywood. There was a parking spot. There were two entourages. There was a punch thrown. There was an entourage scuffle. The police were called, and they only spoke to Frank and not Chris, so they’re going with Frank’s side of the story right now. As I said yesterday, I have no problems believing that Chris Brown started the whole thing. He’s proven time and time again that he has a hair-pin trigger and some very serious rage and violence issues. But here’s the question posed by Hollywood Life & Media Takeout: did Frank Ocean “start” the issue by trash-talking Rihanna? Or did Chris “start” the altercation by dropping some homophobic slurs?

After Frank Ocean and Chris Brown brawled outside of Westlake Studios in Los Angeles on Jan. 27, reports from both camps have been pouring in, attempting to assign blame on one another. A new report says that during the altercation, Frank insulted Rihanna, causing Chris to see red and lose control, knocking Frank unconscious!

A source close to Chris, 23, spoke with MediaTakeOut.com, saying that, after the two crews began arguing in the parking lot, a member of Frank’s entourage, believed to be Frank, 25, himself, “said something to the effect of, ‘Rihanna’s a HOE.’”

The source says that Frank’s slam towards Rihanna, 24, led Chris to lose control, going straight for Frank when the two groups started physically fighting. Chris allegedly knocked Frank unconscious, after he punched him repeatedly in the head. It was at this point that Frank’s friends carried their unconscious buddy inside the studio and called the police. Chris and his crew left the scene before police arrived.

A source close to Frank spoke exclusively with HollywoodLife.com, telling us that it was Chris’s choice of words that escalated the fight. Our insider said that Chris said, “F*ck y’all gay a** n***as,” to openly-gay Frank.

Our insider continued, “Yeah, Chris’ car or whatever car he was rolling in was in a reserved spot. But no one was blocking him and security told him he couldn’t park there and that’s when some fool from his crew got wild and started acting crazy and tripping out on everybody. It was just crazy because they know better but they are so hood and it makes no sense. It’s sad.”

[From Hollywood Life]

I am seriously more confused now than when I started writing this. The first source – the one claiming that Frank Ocean called Rihanna a “hoe” – is that source from Team Breezy or Team Ocean? Or is it just some bystander? Because at first I was like, “Oh, Chris’s defense is that Frank trash-talked Rihanna? Seriously?” But then it took a turn, like the source can’t even believe that Chris beat the crap out of Frank Ocean for calling Rihanna a name.

As for the second version of events – which has Chris dropping some slurs as the instigation – that seems so believable. Bossip was on top of this version too, speaking to a legal expert who claims that if Chris really did drop those slurs as part of some kind of physical attack, it’s not just assault – it’s a hate crime. Which would be amazing, if Chris Brown was charged with a hate crime. Because that young man is FULL OF HATE.

Oh, and he’s not just full of hate. He’s also full of s–t. This is what he Instagram’d last night with the message “Painting the way I feel today…Focus on what matters!” Yes, Chris Brown feels like Jesus. For real.

Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet, Frank Ocean’s Instagram and WENN.

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  1. Sarah says:

    Sounds to me like two narcissistic jerks had a pissing contest. Parking spaces, gay slurs, and picking on a girlfriend?
    And really…does anyone expect an argument with Fist Brown to end with two adults calmly walking away?

    • T.C. says:

      You really believe Frank Ocean just out of the blue started calling Rihanna names? Chris Brown never comes to Rihanna’s defense on Twitter or in the press, it’s always about him. Chris Brown has no respect for Rihanna. My guess is his camp is throwing her name out there to get some sympathy. How do you fight against charges of homophobia? Well you accuse the gay guy of being sexist and try getting him labelled as the bad guy.

      • V4Real says:

        We can’t say that Ocean didn’t call Rihanna a ho because we don’t know enough about the man and what he’s capable of. Chris on the other hand we know is a violent douche with an ego. If he ever wanted people to change their opinions of him, for once he should have shown restraint and walked away but instead I’m sure he just antogonized the situation because he thinks he’s so hard and street. I don’t necessarily hate Chris but I just don’t like him or the man that he’s become. Hopefully he will learn the errors of his ways before he digs himself into a hole he can’t crawl out of.

      • Tiffany says:

        I don’t think it matters what the fight was about. It always boils down to one thing: disrespect. It is how a person deals with that disrespect that determines if a fight happens or not. CB has a loooooong history of blowing his fuse. He has earned his reputation all on his own, I don’t feel bad for him in the least if people jump to conclusions that he started this.

      • Gabriella says:

        I’ll tell you what I know about these guys: I know that Frank Ocean is gay and has been gaining lots of fans lately.
        And I know that Chris Brown hates gays and is violent and very physical about it.
        Do the math.

  2. good_as_gold says:

    Well Rihanna is. So you can’t argue with that.

  3. Faye says:

    I believe it. “Ocean, nobody gets to beat up on or insult Rihanna . . .except me!”

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      Exactly. If Frank Ocean called her a ho, then Chris Brown was probably just pissed that someone insulted a girl that HE was with. It’s not about defending Rihanna, but about his ego getting bruised by someone insulting the girl that he boned. Ugh. This man is pure trash.

  4. Sarah says:

    Eh. Rihanna is what she is, but if Frank Ocean wants me to believe that he is just a good guy that was wrongly treated, calling out a girl who is not even there doesn’t do it for me.
    I think Frank wanted a fight and got more than he bargained for.
    These guys both travel with a posse, I bet he thought he’d be protected.
    Don’t let your mouth write a check your ass can’t cash.

  5. andrea says:

    Sounds like Team Chris trying to spin this into a “I was standing up for the lady” type of thing, which sounds quite ridiculous considering the players. It probably is just about a parking space, they’re that petty, but I’d be just as inclined to believe it’s some sort of former flings’ quarrel.

  6. keats says:

    I believe this. Chris Brown’s #1 concern is Rihanna’s honor.

  7. lexy says:

    One day he will punch someone, they will fall back and hit their head and die and he will be charged with murder. It is all over the news in Australia after a few very publicised ‘one punch kills’. They’re trying to show how easily someone can be killed with just one punch. Chris Brown is likely to experience this soon for himself.

  8. A. says:

    Don’t believe this story. Franks ”lol” in his tweet about this story pretty much said it all. I don’t get that vibe from him. But Chris will never wash his ”beater image” away. I can tell you that much.

  9. yellowlala says:

    Chris just can’t handle the truth so he lashes out like the entitled baby he is. I respect frank, but I wish he would have been able to hit back and give out what’s deserved. Someone will someday and we won’t shed a tear

  10. lucy2 says:

    Are we supposed to like him for defending her? Because if I recall, he hasn’t always been so gentlemanly towards her in the past.

    Doesn’t matter who said what – if Chris threw the first punch he needs to be charged. He’s on probation for an assault, this is clearly a violation of that. And a hate crime. Good thing all those anger management classes worked, huh?

  11. Sarah says:

    Chris has looked super drugged out over the last couple of years. I know he’s a big fan of marijuana, but smoking doesn’t make you look like this.

    • Kimbob says:

      Sarah, I’m glad you brought this up, because I’ve thought the same thing. I’ve noticed pics of him lately…he’s losing weight BIG TIME. Looking @ recent pics, he’s looking really, really skinny. His bony face was the 1st clue for me.

      I tend to believe Frank Ocean. At least he stayed around till the cops came. Chris is saying Geragos told him if there was ever any trouble for him to leave immediately…well, of COURSE he’d say this. Saying such is his only defense…& it’s WEAK! I say weak because Chris should have left before anything escalated….but he’s incapable of such.

      I truly hope Chris finally sees some time behind bars, but I seriously doubt it. As far as I’m concerned, Chris B. is BY FAR, the worst celebrity there is right now…THE WORST!

    • nofkksgiven says:

      I agree…it’s more than weed. I heard he does lots of partying and lots of MDMA.

  12. Kim says:

    This is BS Frank and RiRi are friends they hung out at GQ awards and MTV awards,she tweeted about Super Rich Kids recently.I believe TMZ updated report that Brown felt dissed because Ocean wouldnt shake his hand and laughed at him.

  13. LeenB says:

    Oh please, comparing yourself to Jesus is embarrassing come from Chris brown. Just stop

  14. Ms Kay says:

    Haha oh dear Lord… I mean Jesus! I mean holy Mary Joseph donkey!.. Ahhh I mean oh no Fist Brown didn’t!.. Someone grabs that heavy cross and beats the Life of Brian crap outta him!

  15. Poink says:

    Fist. Fist Brown. Not Chris. He’s an insult to Chris’s everywhere. He’s known for his fists.

  16. Lolly says:

    Those stick thin girly arms knocked someone unconscious?

  17. Dawn says:

    Just another hood rat made into something he isn’t. Why do we make celebrity out such garbage anyway? Chris Brown, the Kartrashians, every single one of the chicks on those god awful housewife shows. None of them have any real talent and yet there they are. Americans need to get some taste and get rid of these none to low talent scum bags.

  18. Shannon says:

    Well Rihanna is a ho. Truth hurts apparently.

    • ORLY says:

      What makes someone a ho? Is it dressing overtly sexy? Is it having multiple sex partners in a short time span? Is it showing off one’s body? A combination?
      Please clarify. I truly always wondered what defines a woman as a ho. I’ve always equated it with multiple sex partners. Then again, it isn’t an adjective I’m comfortable with. Regardless.

      • Shannon says:

        Oh I don’t know…posting naked pics on your twitter and Instagram, dressing over provocatively, sharing a man with another woman because you have no self worth. Just a few examples. And we don’t know if she’s banging other guys. She could be.

      • ORLY says:

        Yeah, see? I believe her body is hers to do with as she pleases as far as what she wears and where she posts pics. Many people are involved in open relationships where it has nothing to do with self worth (although I can’t argue here that Rihanna has any). As for other men, you’re right, we don’t know, so that point is moot.

        It’s obvious that Rihanna has self esteem issues, it’s why she seems to be searching for validation with those pics that she posts.
        I just don’t think posting pics (naked or otherwise) defines someone as being a ho. It’s not like she spreads open her vag and tells the world to take a peek or does porn videos, etc. Some people are more sexually open and comfortable with their nakedness than others.
        Is every woman who goes naked (publicly) on a nude beach, for instance, a ho?
        Personally, I wouldn’t post naked pics of myself online, but to each their own.

      • Shannon says:

        It’s fine to take naked pics of yourself and share them with a boyfriend or just keep them for yourself but to post them online for all the world to see is a bit ho-ish. What is she trying to prove? That shes a ho.

        Or walking around in a see through dress that shows your bare tits and underwear? Not particularly lady like. Believe me I love Rihanna’s music. I just bought her new record and I love it, but the girl is a ho or at least ACTS like one.

      • bob says:

        Someone’s who is having more sex than you, or more sex than you’d like to be having.

        Os someone with really, awfully low standards.

      • ORLY says:

        Oh Bob. hahahaha
        “Someone who has more sex than you”. LOL

        Shannon- I don’t even love Rihanna, I don’t own any of her music, but I strongly disagree that showing her body makes her a ho. I have never seen Rihanna’s vag, and who cares about some breasts, really? Celebs show them in shoots all the time (look at yesterday’s post of Liberty Ross). I s’pose one’s art and the other is a ho? Surely there is room between ladylike and ho, just as there is room between prudish and ladylike.

    • V4Real says:

      Please if I was an actress or singer I would be the biggest HO out there with all those fine ass men in tinseltown.

      The only person we know for sure Rihanna is banging is CB and we can’t call someone a ho b/c of their way of dress (slutty, maybe but not ho).

      From my understanding of the word a ho is someone who has several men that they sleep with but if it was a man who was doing it he would just be a player.

      • gestie says:

        V4Real and ORLY,

        I’m just going to say it, all the things that you’re talking about sounds like anti-slut shaming drivel.

        Like it or not, Rhianna is a role model to a lot of young women, not by her choice, but because society made her one.

        Naked pics on the internet or see through outfits might not make her a ho for sex…maybe a ho for attention, just like Chris Brown.

        If she is a “ho” sex-wise, that’s her business, but she and other people need to realize that not everyone, including women is going to think that’s cool.

        Why women feel they need to engage in the same bad behaviors as men is beyond me.

        If you think naked pics online isn’t a problem just because a woman is famous or “beautiful,” than maybe you should evaluate your LOOKSIST attitude before challenge someone else on theirs.

        How would you feel if your daughters (if you have any) did the same things? I’m betting money you would be including her naked instagram on the mantle with a silver frame.

      • Leen says:

        I guess people forgot about personal liberty. For the record I abhor the term whore/ho as an insult because a whore is a synonym for a prostitute (someone who trades sex for money).

        I personally find it hard to understand why people get riled up when a woman has multiple sexual partners, poses naked pictures or dress really provocatively. Maybe I in general don’t give a toss, as it harms no one but the individual itself. Maybe I just place more value on personal freedom.

        As for your if it was your daughter… Frankly if my daughter decided to post naked pictures (after the age of 18 of course as it is illegal), I wouldn’t like it, but I’m not going to call her ho or restrict her personal freedom. Maybe ill tell her it makes me unhappy and uncomfortable, but again I don’t own my daughter and I can’t force her to stop doing so. Maybe that is going to make a bad parent but oh well, as Khalil Gibran said, our children are not ours.

      • ORLY says:

        gestie – are you new?

        If I had a daughter Rihanna’s age, I would let her live her life as she chooses. She’d know that there are consequences for her actions and that she’d be judged.
        I was brought up to be more open minded, so for me personally, I think people should be free to live as they choose if they aren’t hurting others.
        Regarding the role model bit, perhaps parents should encourage their kids to find positive role models in real life, like teachers, doctors, the garbage man, stay-at-home mom, etc. instead of getting pissy when idiotic celebrities don’t live up to their standards.
        FTR- I don’t give a flying f-ck about slut shaming one way or the other.

      • gestie says:


        Personal liberty and self-respect, getting and giving respect are two entirely different things. If you think promiscuity is a positive trait, that’s your opinion, however I don’t see it that way, particularly because people aren’t as careful as they think they are. Any human being can do what he/she want. Just as any other human being can give an opinion on it, positive or negative. What people forget is with rights come responsibility, also just because you CAN do something doesn’t mean you SHOULD.

        Trust me, doctors, teachers, etc., aren’t doing so well in the role model department either. One young woman got fired from her teaching job because she tweeted pics herself naked and smoking pot. If she wants to do that, that’s her business. Is is incredibly stupid, seeing that students, parents and other co-workers will see it? I think so. Not that I have kid, but if mine did something like that, in fact, “I’m disappointed” wouldn’t be all I’d say.

        And let’s be honest here, Rhianna’s & Chris Brown’s demographic are teenagers, any adult fans she has would know better than to do that. Unless the parents set a good foundation for their kids, these are the people they’re going to emulate.

  19. Thea says:

    Frank probably offered up his hairdresser and pissed Ms. Brown off.

  20. Bea says:

    I don’t know how I feel about him being charged with a hate crime. Basically if he did the exact same thing to a straight guy (hitting him and calling him a f@g) he’d get less of a punishment?

    • Lee says:

      I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure it has to do with motivation. You can be charged with a hate crime against a straight guy for doing the same thing if you perceived him to be gay and that was the motivation for the assault. I would think that Brown could argue that he was using slang and the motivation was unrelated to Ocean’s sexuality, then he would try to prove he isn’t homophobic to back up his story.

      Either way, I hope Brown finally gets charged with something one of these days before more serious damage is done to other people. Clearly he hasn’t learned anything.

  21. Rachelstein says:

    So he wants us to believe he (Chris Brown) assaulted a man for calling for calling a woman he assaulted a hoe. Wow his mum must he so proud.

  22. JuneBug says:

    One wrong punch can kill a person. The odds keep getting better for CB … Brown is like nitroglycerin .

  23. Shady says:

    Funny how some of you call Rihanna a ho but many of you probably have way more mileage on you than she does. Rihanna’s a ho but Taylor Swift not please half of hollywood then already had her so lets not go there.

    Tmz reported that Francine nor chrissy was fighting that it was their crews who doing most the fighting and it was caught on video.

    • Kim says:

      Do you refer to them by female names because Gay men are not Real men? The fight started in parking lot and moved to lobby.The video is from lobby camera so it proves nothing in terms of who threw the first blow according to TMZ story.

    • val says:

      Oh Taylor Swift is a HOE too. But this article mentioned Rihanna so yeah, she’s a hoe.

    • Dani says:

      We could disagree for ages, but honestly, Rihanna beats out Taylor for ‘hoeing.’ Yes, Taylor has multiple boyfriends over the span of let’s say, 6 months. BUT, she isn’t all over instagram and twitter posting half naked pictures of herself, openly dissing other girls for trying to ‘steal her man,’ sharing CB with someone equally as trashy as her, and being all about that ‘thug life’ aka getting high, wasted and being a degenerate when she’s worth so much more than that. So yes, Rihanna is a hoe based on her actions and the way she presents herself. One cannot call Taylor a hoe because she doesn’t promote sex, she doesn’t sing about being dominated, and she doesn’t expose herself of her fans to the antics that Rihanna does.

  24. lolo says:

    Shannon says:
    January 29, 2013 at 9:12 am Well Rihanna is a ho. Truth hurts apparently.

    Shannon how is Rihanna a ho? I have seen Taylor Fake Swift with more men than Rihanna. People need to leave Rihanna alone, let this woman live her life.

  25. holachica says:

    did he actuually draw that painting himself? it’s not too bad actually but it’s sad that he even has the audacity to make that sort of f’d up comparison. I think both of them look like fools. either one of them could have easily taken the high road instead of fighint in a damn parking lot! petty fools!!

  26. TheOriginalKitten says:

    That painting is ATROCIOUSLY bad. Jesus himself would tell Chris Brown to never pick up a paintbrush again.
    Dude best not quite his day job because Michelangelo he ain’t.

  27. phlyfiremama says:

    What a cretin. A psychopathic, rage and hate filled ticking time bomb of disaster.

  28. val says:

    Eh, well is Frank called Rihanna a hoe, he was pretty much speaking the truth. I mean he is calling them as he sees them right? Chris needs Jesus. That is one seriously messed up kid!

  29. G says:

    He probably called her a “HO” after he spewed slurs at him. I’ll give Ocean the benefit of the doubt before CB. Even if he did call her that them aint “fightin words” and CB knows it.

  30. Chordy says:

    I like how this story is about the behavior of these two dudes, yet a disconcerting number of comments vagina-police Rihanna. Let’s focus on the situation at hand. Don’t worry, I’m sure Rihanna will Instagram something y’all can slut shame her for later today.

  31. skuddles says:

    Yes Chris, we totally get it – you’re exactly like Jesus. If Jesus were a cracked out, woman punching, homophobic slur spewing, ho juggling, shit stain on the underwear of life.

  32. babythastarsshinebrite says:

    Rhianna is a hoe. I don’t like to label people with that word, but I am sure that is the image she is going for.

  33. Nicole Ocean says:

    Are we really believing stories from Mediafakeout and Bossip?

  34. val says:

    Dang , now I can’t get that song out of my mind. You’s a hoe…lol

  35. Shannon says:

    Why is every fight this clown gets into blamed on Rihanna? The last big fight he was in was that night club brawl with Drake. That was supposedly all about Rihanna too. Is this girl really worth fighting over? Perhaps or maybe Chris is just jones-ing to beat some ass. He can’t beat on his women anymore without HUGE repercussions, so he pounds on other people. What a loser.

  36. Kim says:

    I just saw a pic of CB @tmz.com wearing a cast on his hand interestingly his camp claims he didn’t hit anyone.They claimed the entourages were fighting not Brown and Ocean.I can’t wait for the explanation for the cast.

  37. KellyinSeattle says:

    he’s such a little twit

  38. JFerber says:

    I believe that Brown is closeted and thus is homophobic and violently so. I have NO problem believing he used gay slurs on Ocean and hit him, too. As for whores, the only one we KNOW is sleeping with more than one partner is Brown. That makes him the ho. I wish so badly that Brown would get the beat down he so richly deserves.

    • Shannon says:

      Rihanna is sleeping with K- what the f*cks her name too. Weather she likes it or not. And vice versa. Chris is sticking his dick in one girl and turning around and sticking it in the other. Sometimes just a day apart. They are all having sex with each other. Dirty ass hos. All of them.

  39. hoganbcmj says:

    I seriously hope that Ocean did call Rihanna a hoe. Because that would be awesome, and true.

  40. Beatriz says:

    Funny how a lot of people are calling Rihanna a ho. I always regarded people who go after individuals who are in comitted relationship to be “hoes” (this would also include the person who obliges the other party and cheats on his/her significant other). I truly dislike Rihanna and I agree that you can call her a lot of things, but I wouldn’t call her a ho. Now Kirsten Stewart and Rupert Sanders? Both hoes.

    • gestie says:

      So the fact that she went after Chris when he was (and still is) with Karruche Tran ISN’T ho behavior?

      • Beatriz says:

        But didn’t they all have some sort of “understanding”? It seemed to me (and still does), that Rihanna and Karruche know he will “take turns” in being with them…also, didn’t Brown break up with Karruche a long time ago? I mean, I don’t think that sort of arrangement speaks very highly of both women considering how he treats them, but if that’s what they want, so be it.

      • gestie says:


        Maybe they do now, but from the little I can see, CB was dating Karruche and Rhianna muscled in on the relationship.

        CB is Karruche’s meal ticket since they have business deals together. She’s probably the one “putting up” with all of this. Both women take shots at each other on twitter.

        We haven’t heard any about any about b/t CB and Karruche at this point. Maybe he sees her as someone who “knows her place.”