The Tears of the Dragonfly.
There are some spoilers in this post, but before I get to them, let’s just do a general recap. Thor: The Dark World comes out in November. Word is that the film is very good, and that nerds will Lokigasm when they see it. Thor has made stars out of both Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston, to varying degrees – I feel like Hollywood thinks Hemsworth is the next big movie star while Hiddles merely has a rabid and obsessive base of fan-girls (and boys too!). Again, here’s the trailer for The Dark World:
So… it’s weird that Chris didn’t come to Comic-Con, right? Right. But Hiddles was there. And when Hiddles was at Comic-Con, not only did were Lokigasms had by all, but he also gave his own person preview of what to expect from The Dark World:
Cute, right? But he really didn’t reveal what happens in The Dark World. Which brings me to…
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
What actually happens to Loki at the end of The Dark World? Well, I haven’t seen it, but I have read some stuff about what happens to the character, and suffice to say, I think Joss Whedon knew what he was talking about when he completely shot down the idea that Loki would even be “around” for any part of The Avengers 2: Age of Ultron. But is that really what Marvel wants? Or does Marvel look at the nerdgasms at Comic-Con and think, “Hey, we should keep this Hiddleston guy around, maybe give him a spinoff franchise”? Quite honestly, I would love to see a Loki spinoff. Loki: Takes a Bath and Recites Poetry would bring in lots of $$$$.
After the Avengers 2-announcing Marvel panel rocked Comic-Con to its geeky foundations on Saturday, Empire got the chance to speak to the superhero studio’s head honcho, Kevin Feige, about everything from Thanos to Ultron. That includes the upcoming Thor: The Dark World and Captain America: The Winter Soldier, and a certain staff-wielder by the name of Loki.
Here are a few choice titbits to whet your appetite, kicking off with the choice of the name The Avengers: Age Of Ultron.
How long has this been in the works? The comic book run is only just wrapping up…
“It’s not that [run’s] story, but it’s that title. It’s been in the works for seven or eight months… There are some things in this movie, that you’ll see in 2015, that arise directly from casual conversations Joss and I had on the set of the first one. ‘Would it be cool if…?’ ‘That would be cool!'”
“We came up with a few titles, but every month a new comic book appeared, and that’s a great title. Age Of Ultron is a great title. We had a few other ‘Of Ultrons’, but that was the best one. So we’re borrowing that title, but taking storylines from decades of Avengers storylines.”
On the topic of Loki, Feige refused to admit that the mischievous Norse god won’t be in the Avengers sequel – despite Joss Whedon saying something to that effect on a recent Empire Podcast – but did have something very intriguing to say on the character…
“We think Loki could be the big bad for us, for a long time,” said Feige. Seeing so many Lokis on the floor at Comic-Con tells the Marvel team “to keep following their instincts…”
This implies that Loki may well survive the events of Thor: The Dark World, living to cause trouble another day, something that is very intriguing indeed considering the trailer shown at Comic-Con. This might be another classic case of Marvel misdirection, but it’s worth filing away in the back of the brain for when it does (or doesn’t) come to light on The Dark World’s October 30 release.
This reminds me a bit about all of the shenanigans with The Dark Knight Rises. By the end of the film, nearly every conspiracy theory was confirmed and it did feel like… ugh. No surprises. So, this game of “maybe Loki dies, but not really, Loki is sort of like Jesus except he’s Loki and yeah we’ll manage to find a way for him to have a cameo in The Age of Ultron” is pretty cheeseball. Blah.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Hurrah! I think Miss Jane has a script for Thor and Loki that Marvel might want to have a look at. It involves a LOT of action…
I’d like to see the storyboards on that one
OOOOOOH yeah. In full color, please.
Being it on!
I am still not happy with the way the riding crop scene is going – can you send the boys back in?
Give them a biscuit first, please – Tommyanna’s left side was kind of limp the last round of rewrites.
Sorry about that. He said that my spurs were hurting him, but as he didn’t use the safe word, I just squeezed harder.
I’m just happy there’s a Hemsworth mention somewhere FINALLY THANK YOU KAISER. I must say, with all those rumors about Hems wanting out of the Marvel contract, it would make more sense to kill off/exile Thor, so that they could re-boot him in a few years with someone new (but not for me. HEMSWORTH = GOD). Phew. Done now. Cold shower time.
I hate it when they try to replace actors. First batman and now Thor? Ugh!
Well, at least Batman got a full trilogy run, and I think the franchise would have loved for Bale to stick around, but as it were, everyone parted on good terms, chapter closed. The Marvel story is a lot more contentious. And I think they originally locked in Hems (and Evans) for a 6-picture deal.
I know, but I don’t want to see another actor as Batman anyway 😉
Let’s hope that Hemsworth continues to be Thor.
It’s hard to watch Hiddleston now. Hard. He’s just soooo try hard. He’s a female Anne Hathaway, except she was gunning for an Oscar, not a replaceable part in a comic book movie. The social media crap freaks me out. If I knew people, my fans were taking who they *thought* I was dating that seriously (read: creepy stalkers) then I would’ve shut everything down and told them publically to back off. But he hasn’t. That’s….odd. And alarming. I wouldn’t want to date a dude like that.
How is he ‘try-hard’? By being a nice person? By being a superb actor (as anyone who has seen him in The Hollow Crown will testify). Bit unfair to compare him to AnnE, really. Not being snarky, just saying. 😀 xx
Actually, while I semi-support your pro-Hiddles argument (I think he IS talented and nice; I also think he goes overboard PR-ing himself completely unrelatedly to actual projects, and then publicly complains about not having enough Twitter followers), what is it with using Anne Hathaway as some sort of standard of famewhore badness? I mean, I KNOW where it came from, but the super-talented and Oscar-winning actress with multiple box-office hits is only guilty of over-eagerly campaigning for the prize – something practically everyone else on the circuit does (just better), and a prize she deserved anyway. At least she’s totally low-key when not working.
He is SO GOOD in The Hollow Crown! That whole series is amazing…anyone who has even a passing Shakespeare interest should watch it! It’s finally getting a US DVD release in September and I may possibly have preordered it 😉 I can’t wait to watch it again!
@Hubbahun
Yes, he is talented and he has a lovely personality, but that doesn’t mean he is without faults. Maybe it’s an age thing, but I’ve seen quite a few comments (from some of us who’ve probably been round the block) who’ve seen how the media works, particularly before the internet/social media and how that has changed things, and I can tell you, he does, at times, come across as try hard. He’s an actor for god’s sake, it’s in the job description.
An example is that MTV Awards speech: I had to turn it off after 30 seconds, it was embarrassing. He also has the habit of going to the opening of an envelope (or a bag of crisps as another poster pointed out, lol)
However on plenty of other occasions, he’s come across as charming, insightful and humble.
I still like him, think he’s very talented, smart and attractive but I accept that just because I like someone it doesn’t mean I’m always going to like what they do, or their behaviour.
I compared the two because, one-they both have talent, and two-she’s the only one that I can think of right now.
I think they’re both talented, but both annoying….him especially because he’s famous for a comic book movie. That’s all.
Sorry to disagree Anna, but I don’t think Anne deserved that Oscar. She was in the film less than 10 mins, I think that was a role many actresses could have done.
But I don’t agree about Tom being another Anne. I get second-hand embarassment for Tom, sure, but Anne is just annoying.
The length of time an actor spends on screentime doesn’t matter if their performance is that good. Judy Dench received her best support Oscar for SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE during which she had a total of 10 minutes screen time spread out in the film!!!
I think he’s a really good actor who happens to have mental health issues. I really, really believe he’s manic and that this is related to his mental health. I’m not saying this to slam or trash him. I actually liked him a ton before I realized how he is…manic, and crazed, and an egomaniac, and needy, and encourages his crazy fans. I can’t respect a man like that. He needs therapy and possibly medication.
Interesting…more and more people are commenting about TH using words like “manic”, “bipolar”, and/or “depressed”. Certainly makes you wonder…
I am very skeptical of amateur diagnoses of people you have never spoken to, and I hate it when people cite mental illness as a perjorative.
Standard feeling among mental health professionals is that it is only a problem if it is a problem– for the person directly concerned. If he is manic, he wouldn’t be the first artist to put his “defect” to good use.
I see major self esteem / barcissism issues in Hiddles myself– but I will go out on a limb here and say this would make him fairly typical as an actor. A lot of actors are actors because something is broken inside them, and being up there answers a need.
Off my soapbox now….
Narcissism is a mental illness. Self-esteem–the way in which one mentally views oneself–is related to mental health.
Please, check yourself before you go balls out criticizing someone else for “amateur diagnoses” and using mental health “as a pejorative” (which no one did). Especially when you yourself clearly don’t know which conditions constitute mental health issues in the first place.
Noreen, you just said he has me tal health issues. This, as someone who is not his therapist, is not your privilege to say.
Narcissism is not a diagnosis– narcissistic personality disorder is, and I never said that. We are all narcissistic sometimes.
You seem a little hot under the collar. Could you please take things a little less personally?
I might also point out that you absolutely are criticizing him and cutting him down for what you have declared are mental health issues.
It provokes an important question: if someone really does have a mental illness, wouldn’t you feel some compassion? Wouldn’t a de wNt person err on the side of wishing that person well?
“Manic, crazed, egomaniac…” These are pejoratives. You *are* trashing him, so please own it.
Here’s the thing:
On one side of the curve we have health self-love, even a bit of vanity. I don’t know about you, but I just spent a lot of money on my hair this week, money I could have given to UNICEF, but he’ll, I want to look awesome.
Then there is narcissism, the state of being way too full if yourself, which we ALL are some of the time. It’s a part of being human. Some psychologists observe that extreme narcissism is a normal stage of growing up and that it’s hard to get through your twenties without someone wanting to strangle you for your obnoxious self regard. TommyAnnE is too old for this behavior, but– he’s an actor. Come on.
Then there is Narcissistic Personality Disorder which is still in the now rather controversial DSM, and that baby is another basket of apples. It’s not a disorder unless it really is damaging your life and your relationships. As psych people like to say, it’s a problem if it is a problem.
None of us here are in any position to say that TommyAnnE is on this side of the bell curve. When he starts jumping on sofas and telling everyone to kneel for real, maybe, but that time is not now. Right now, he is just sometimes obnoxious.
Well, as someone who shares far too many of Tom’s traits, only I’m not a famous actor… I do concur with spirit of the observations. I often think the reason he fascinates me is because he displays the very same things I deal with and do in my own little corner of the world and I DO have a psychiatrist and therapy and such. He acts the way I would if I in the same position … I have to admit that to truly honest with myself.
It is such a taboo topic.
As for Tom himself, I’d not be shocked to find out years from now that is addicted to pain killers or something. (TMJ causes chronic pain).
Regarding Marvel, they will milk the cow for as much as they can and I can’t say that I am not excited about it.
Mmmmmm Loki.
Where did this TMJ thing come from? Are there Us Weekly “doctors*” who do not treat this person, weighing in? Has he said anything regarding his health somewhere that I missed? Or is it all speculation based on what some regard a peculiar jaw movement when he speaks.
*it’s bullshit and unethical when doctors do that shit.
@Noreen, well they do say all actors are crazy to some degree. You’d have to be I would imagine to put up with that level of rejection. He has a need to be liked I’ve noticed and when he is noticed it puffs up his ego. If he isn’t liked or noticed it deflates his balloon. I can only wonder what he was like pre fame.
Enough with the cages made of glass for big bads in movies! Change it up, people! Anyways, I love Loki, but I’m wondering if there might be a bit of over-saturation. I do think that Thor is only good because of Loki, and if they want to continue with the franchise they’ll need him. That being said, if he does “die” at the end of this Thor I doubt they’ll bring him back. They’ve already done that – no one will believe any character death if they do it again.
It’s a comic-universe: death is not final. Not for any character, and definitely not for Loki: he’s died and come back several times.
(And that’s just several times in “modern era” … in the comic-verse the Asgardians are trapped in a loop, repeating the cycle of Ragnarok over and over. So Thor, Loki and the rest have died and been reborn for countless millennia.)
Where does this TMJ stuff come from?
Watch his mouth and jaw movements. Rightward involuntary slide of the lips and jaw (worse when he is tired) Constant lip licking. Thrusting forward of the lower mandible. Excessive jaw clenching.
It is very obvious and those are all signs of a TMJ disorder. I read it somewhere and it seems to fit.
Unless he just coincidentally happens to have all of those quirks for no reason.
Shrug.
Hiddleston does not have TMD. His jaw movement isn’t limited at all and there’s definitely no clicking or grating noises coming from him when he talks. His jaw clenching usually happens when he’s nervous and is not indicative of TMD. Look at how wide that man opens his mouth when he laughs or yells OMG in Deep Blue Sea or TELL ME! at Odin. He wouldn’t be able to do that with TMD. He’s just a silly dorky fella with a few quirks and self-esteem issues. He might have a little depression but who doesn’t when they are struggling to achieve their dream? I don’t think he has chronic anything. Just in danger of getting chronic Lokivitis if he ends up becoming a one hit wonder.
Also, taking pain killers for TMD doesn’t get rid of the pain entirely. A dull throbbing stays and the discomfort shows on the person’s face. Homeboy Hiddleston is always so bright eyed and bushy tailed, he’s like a squirrel on crack.
TMD patients are also chewing gum majority of the time to keep the jaw from locking and stiffening but his gum chewing is normal, breath freshening chewing. And TMD patients will have occassional swelling around the side of their face and with Hiddleston’s narrow and sharp face, his swelling would be really obvious but he only has a little baby fat on the apples of his cheeks. The side of his face is pretty smooth and chiseled all the time.
I’m sorry if my replies came across as snappy or rude, MissThing. It’s just I’ve seen and known people with TMD and Tom Hiddleston doesn’t look like he has it at all. I think like all struggling actors, he has self-esteem issues and minor depression. He really wants recognition (which actor doesn’t) so when he gets some, he’s over the moon about it and gets super giddy and to some, that comes across as desperate, and needy. I highly doubt he’s manic depressive or bipolar or anything serious. Just your garden variety low self esteem.
Killing him off would be an emotional and fulfilling character arch…so of course they won’t do it. Marvel is about fun and making money, not great cinema. That’s fine (good even) but the films will never rise above cheeseball, let’s be honest.
Seriously, the people who proclaimed Avengers one of the best movies of all time made me want to rip my hair out.
Bwahahahah “Loki: Takes a Bath and Recites Poetry would bring in lots of $$$$”. Brilliant. But seriously, of course they had to get rid of Loki – while he’s around no body cares about Thor. Dragonfly did a great job.
I think both Chris and Tom are fine actors, but they just bring so much more out of each other when together onscreen. The sum of the parts is more than the whole. I seriously expect Thor to be boring in Avengers 2 when he isn’t kicking someone’s ass.
“CH is the next (big movie star) while Hiddles merely has a rabid and obsessive base of fangirls/boys”.
THIS. Yes, thank you.
We enjoy good films, appreciate movies of all sorts- yet, I do not know *anyone* who even knows who he is. Granted, we are actual adults- not 14 yr olds who live on their computers- but, still. Is this just Marvel media talking up their “star”? Without CH- there is no Thor, Tumblr notwithstanding. TH’s fanbase is small but insanely vocal online (b/c they are youngsters who haven’t had to accept adult responsibilities yet, I suppose).
Time will tell if he can actually do anything other than indie films/smaller roles. He’s not yet proven to pull a crowd other than the comic book movie folks. And lunatics online.
Wow. I’m a 52 year old woman, buff of films of every stripe going back to the early 30’s, and a novelist of nearly 20 years who has made the NYT besteller list. Storytelling is literally my occupation.
I’m a big Hiddles fan, and I don’t think anyone could get away with calling me a “screaming fangirl lunatic.” Actually, my fandom is strong but muted by comparison to the younger folk. I also have bipolar disorder and don’t appreciate armchair diagnosis.
If Tom has issues, so what? As far as I’m concerned, Hemsworth is the big blond beefy romance cover guy (And though I write urban fantasy now, BASED on Norse mythology) I’ve written paranormal romance. He’s very boring to me. Tom is interesting, a great actor, capable of being overblown when the role calls for it and subtle when it’s required.
If he needs treatment, I hope he gets one. But please cease overgeneralizing about his admirers, some (I venture to say many) may be more mature than you think, and who aren’t after his body.
In all fairness, I should say I’m less of a Hiddles fan than a Loki (as portrayed by him) fan. I find Loki fascinating, as I find all ambiguous characters. The Loki I wrote for my new urban fantasy novel happens to share some traits with MCU Loki by sheer coincidence, as I write the short story upon which my story is based well before the Thor movie came out.
That say, Tom was fantastic in The Hollow Crown. The danger for him is being typecast as Loki, because he does it so wonderfully well.
Susan Krinard, is that you?? Oh Lordy!
Speaking about the character and not Hiddles – there’s no reason why he couldn’t die and resurrect. He does that in the myths quite regularly and, although I have no idea about comics, in those too, I believe?
Since Marvel have optioned TommyAnne and since he appears to sell dolls and create online buzz (even if it is one segment of a market in crazy-in-the-coconut fangirls), I’d imagine he’ll be back.
Speaking about TommyAnne, he should be happy if that’s the case. It gives him a second bite at the cherry and he needs one of those since he’s been cast in bugger all since Thor 2 finished shooting.
The thing is…I dont think Loki would have ever gotten this BIG if it wasn’t for Tom’s portrayal. He maybe a try-hard social media whore and the bloom is def off my crush on him, but he really brought Loki to life. I dont think anyone counted on a villain from a secondary Marvel movie to become the most popular franchise character save for RDJ’s Iron Man.
I just don’t understand the market segments enough to properly guess.
On the one hand, I just asked my two kids (both boys and of the age to like this stuff and nag for merchandise, etc) and they couldn’t care less about Loki. For them and their pals, Marvel’s mostly about Ironman and failing Ironman, Thor is mostly about Thor. On the other hand, I would guess that the fangirl segment *do* spend money at the turnstile and on merchandise. Never leave a customer behind, you know?
yea, TH’s social media antics annoy me, but Loki is GOD. Which is especially surprising since he was meant to be an antagonist. Loki and Captain America didn’t go according to plan in that regard. No one really cares about CA, but Loki is the bomb. Yet a sub-franchise was built for you to care about CA…
@CC
Avengers is supposed to be a Captain vehicle, but there wasn’t any chance of that with RDJ involved.
I agree– Loki was the *only* thing that brought Thor 1 to life in my opinion. I was less impressed with the Avengers.
I also think Tom was one of the few who could go toe to toe with RDJ onscreen and not have the scene be completely dominated by Robert.
Every time we talk about his career, someone comes in to gush about all of the new projects he is in, and it always sounds like Luke. 🙂
He is in some fine projects– I wouldn’t sniff at Coriolanus, even though I have doubts about his ability to take that on– but when you compare his project load to his contemporaries (Cumberbatch, Redmayne, Hemsworth) it is pretty damned thin. He needs a good five years of really packing in parts. He still has to audition hard. I think he really wanted The Crow.
Is this bc he does Stage so much, and it doesnt pop up on IMDB? Or bc hee is committed to sucking on Marvel’s teet for as long as they’ll have him (which would be sad)?
@Anna, I am including his stage work in my above assessment. For this year, he only has one stage performance slotted, his first in three years. He was busy there for awhile, but things kind of went limp right after Thor 2wrapped.
For this year, putting aside promotional work for already made films he has:
– A muppet cameo.
– The Capa film by a small Indy director (not sniffing at this, I’m just pointing out that he’s not working with Michael Mann, and this is likely to be limited release, contnuing his pattern of working on fairly small projects)
– Coriolanus
– Two James Bond audiobooks
Compared to Cumberbatch and Hemsworth, that’s light. I don’t think he is choosing to pull back– he continues to promote himself for larger projects and audition hard.
I don’t give a crap about comic books or comic book movies, but Loki in The Avengers is possibly the WORST villain in a superhero movie EVER. He was so stupid and whiny and boring. What a mistake keeping him around.
Thankgod someone agrees. Loki is such a pussy
“Pussy”. Wow, cute. I hope you’re not a woman using derogatory words to suggest that since women are no more than their sexual organs,and naturally weak, a man who isn’t utterly masculine must be a “pussy.”
They killed off a character in the Avengers but he’s part of the new Shield TV show.
Different rules in the comic book world.
The Hiddles fan club has descended.Yawn. he was awful in the Hollow Crown. I was so pleased when he got overlooked for Whishaw. That must have killed his ego. He was in multiple episodes and bugger all came his way. He only has two ways of acting. Camp/lacking energy or heavy handed/scenery chewing
He was very peeved by the BAFTA snub from what I gather– not a single congratulations to his costars, even when people prompted him. He campaigned heavily for that.
I liked him as Hal, but was considerably less impressed by H5. I am not surprised that they nominated Whishaw instead– he was amazing. That’s just the way it goes.
Wow, what an entitled prick.
Meds, Tom, meds. And therapy. Ain’t no shame in it.
He needs humility, not necessarily meds. Lets be nice to those who take meds.
You can be an entitled prick and not be mentally ill. Jerkitude and mental illness aren’t the same things. I wish there was an asshole-no-more pill, but there isn’t.
I know a lot of crazy people who are sweet as can be. Among celebrities. I could make a long list of men’s he’s who have struggled with illness, Stephen Fry for starters.
Oh please, *I* have taken meds. LIKE I SAID before, there’s no shame in it.
What does *that* mean?
I’m going to have to stick up for TommyAnne here! I thought Hollow Crown was great and TommyAnne was, by and large, great too. They wanted to make something as accessible as possible but also as um… I dunno, as “traditional” as possible too. So it was heavily cut but played with a completely straight bat.
I agree Whishaw’s was the better performance. And I also agree with Crumpets that Tommyanne’s Hal was better than his Henry, perhaps because Henry isn’t helped by the supporting cast as much as Hal is, but I don’t think the man deserves anything other than praise for his work there.
One reason I like to talk about him so much is that he*does* have his better moments, moments when he really shines, and I always have hope of seeing more of that and less of the famewhoring. I have high hopes for OLLA– everything I have read sounds wonderful!
I will never get the appeal of this guy. He is not the least bit attractive and his fake bake makes him look ridiculous. Are sure he is not lying about his age? He looks a lot older than early 30´s.
He is ugly no thank you forever
Another extremely mature assessment. Than you.
He’s not my “type,” but my ghod, criticizing actors by their looks?
One thing I’ve learned from these comments … the club of obsessive critics-of-Tom Hiddleston is just as bizarre as that of Hiddles-can-do-no-wrong. You all need a little self-awareness, here, folks. You seem to get off on setting yourselves up as superior because you’re “bucking” the trend of Hiddleston fans. That’s a self-esteem issue right there.
Mirror-time, folks.
Wake up, feeling cr###y, hangover. Suck down 2 cups of coffee, still feeling cr###y, see Chris Hemsworth above, I think I have a pulse, see my “Loki” , dear God, I am alive. Suddenly I just don’t feel that bad anymore. Geez, I have wait until November for the movie? :Gahhhhh!
Honestly, after the reaction to the comic con performance, they’d be stupid to kill him off now.
Loki seems to be more popular than Captain America, who has two films of his own now. Marvel isn’t stupid. I predict a Loki film in the future. And think about it, to be really bad without playing off Thor could be very interesting.
Ahhh that video with the action figures…”Loki takes a bath and recites poetry” You are killing me with laughter this morning! What about Loki and Thor brush each others hair???
Yes, i would watch THAT. All day long. I think they are both YES for different reasons. Yum. (best not to overthink i think)
He is sooo unattractive ugh. Yes Marvel kill him off please.
OK yes he is ugly but he is a good actor and thats what counts IMO.
Yeah i agree he is ugly and as a man he can have a career despite his unattractive look and thats good. Unattractive female actress cant have that kind of career even if they have great acting skills. You wont find any women like him or cumberbatch playing leading parts in hollywood.
I’m not a Tom lover either but I won’t. Rule him out for a lead role. Hollywood is a weird place. They say one thing and do another. Also Cumberbatch is in lead roles coming up. Honestly I rather be a average looker in Hollywood than to be overall attractive. I just think when you’re too good looking people don’t really wanna take you seriously. I know it doesn’t happen to all goodlooking actors but it happens to a lot.
Hiddleston isn’t ugly… he’s just not like, HOT. I think he’s relatively good looking. A little skinny though. Not enough meat on him for me (even though I totally looooove Cumberbatch, even when he’s skinny).
I think he just really needs a breakout role/performance, and he’ll be good to go in H-town.
And if I’m not the first to say it, I’ll just say it anyway… Cumberbatch may not be ridiculously good looking, but he sure as f^%* is talented. I wish he were slightly better looking (or even average looking) b/c I swear, if he was, he would have had DiCaprio’s career in Hollywood.
His looks don’t stop me from being slightly obsessed with him, though 🙂
True but like Tia says, this is only true for women. Average looking women don’t have leading lady careers. Average looking men can to a much greater degree. A woman with hiddlestons average looks would be considered to plain for lead or second leads.
A.) the Rhor/Loki relationship is what makes Thor interesting. Take that away, and you have a very bland comic book movie.
B.) in the comics, Loki does and comes back, dies and comes back. He comes back as a woman at one point, and he came back as a kid in Journey Into Mystery, who then was”killed” by Loki, who I think is coming back yet again. The upshot: Marvel will kill him off and bring him back as much and whenever they wish. I don’t think he will die in Thor 2 though because that would be a repeat of how they ended Thor 1, and he still needs to cause Ragnarok.
C.) all this not withstanding, and with due respect for Hiddles (who I think is good, but nowhere near the rock star his fans crack him up to be) and LokiPhanatics (who I think make up the bulk of Hiddles fandom), Loki is being way overplay and overexposed. Thor 2 might change my mind, but I think the law of diminishing returns is going to kick in and makes Hiddles into a one trick pony.
I would like to see this Guy do something else. I like him but even with his popularity of Loki I feel as though he hasn’t had that Breakout role yet.
I would love him so much more if he just left Marvel behind and worked hard at being the kind of serious actor I think he wants to be. This would mean banging out one great performance after another. He needs to double his work load.
Hemsworth is HOT HOT HOT, and is a pretty good actor, so I totally think that making him the next big thing in Hollywood is definitely ok.
I’m not a Hiddlestoner by any means, but I do like Tom a lot. I think he’s cute, and he seems really charming. Whether he’ll be a major player in Hollywood is up for debate (and time will tell), but for now, I enjoy seeing him in films and hope that he has a long, long acting career.
I thought his fans were called hiddlestoners. Where did “dragonflies” come from? Can someone explain?
Anywho, Hiddleston I tolerate him but like others have said I do think he gets too much attention. I also want him to have a leading role. I dont want him to just be known as loki.
See the top pic, he’s wearing a jacket with dragonflies on it (McQueen I believe)
To add to Roberta’s comments, which are exactly on point, Kaiser named us Dragonflies after a particularly lively feeding frenzy when she posted the afore mentioned dragonfly jacket pix. She was generously trying to distinguish CB Hiddles fans from his other fan arena. Not that the other Hiddles’ fans aren’t all lovely; just a nice tip of the hat to the commenters… and we ate it up.
Meh.he is ugly & overrated.
Yeah I never got the appeal of him. He’s not even a top actor.His looks are average at best and he is annoying. His fangirls are annoying and build him up with so much hype. I wish he would go away.
Just discovered Datalounge (late to the party)!
Skimming the TH thread, p. 30, reply #584 (have no idea how to give you a link, sorry). A lovely British poster wrote some very interesting things. Totally agree with this.
I read that bit. BTW no on ever comments on how he was banging Kat Dennings during the filmiing and promoting of the movie Thor… at the same time he was still dating his “real” GF.
For everyone who says he is ugly – I thought so too at first, but he has these features that grow on you. The more you look at him the more handsome he looks.
If you google photos of Loki cosplayers, you will agree that nobody comes even close to his hotness. I can’t imagine anyone else playing the role.
Something about his bone structure, the jawline and the cheekbones. Also the big hands hanging around his frame. I could look at hundreds of screencaps and never get bored. Can’t say the same about any of the others in the franchise. I love Hemsworth and RDJ, but don’t feel like going through countless pictures of them.
He was signed with three contracts to Marvel. So he’s going to be appearing in at least two more movies, Dark World was the first of the three after the first sign with the first Thor movie. Loki is a pretty common force in Thor comics and he’s also in a lot of other things such as shit with Dr. Doom. With Marvel getting their rights back with Fantastic Four and if they do a proper movie we might see that pairing on screen. But I can see him coming in for Avengers 3. I think it’d be a bad idea for Avengers 2.
But then again, I’m losing my faith in Joss and Marvel. ULTRON is a Hank Pym creation and they are making him a Stark creation. Ant Man (Hank) is like best known for Ultron as far as major things about the character. Stark is getting WAY overplayed. Avengers one was Stark and the Avengers and I’m sure it’s going to follow the same pattern. Iron Man doesn’t even lead the Avengers until after Captain America and Ms Marvel’s stints as the leader. I get RDJ is the biggest name but they need to tone down the Stark machine and actually stick with the real stories from the comics. Ultron also kills the Avengers in the comics. So not using him for Avengers 3 makes no damn sense to me whatsoever. So I’ll have to say Loki will most likely appear in the third installment versus the second cause overplay can kill the success. Though maybe not cause Stark/Iron Man.
Not too thrilled at all except more hotness that is Loki, not Tom.
I just soiled myself. Dr. Doom AND Loki in ONE movie/series/franchise?!?!?!?
YES, PLEASE to this. TWICE.
I actually enjoyed Julian Macmahon as Dr. Doom in the Sucktastic 4. I felt he was the best thing in it. Besides Evans’ body, that is.
Why disappoint the fans by killing him off? I haven’t seen anyone on the internet actually care about the Thor/Jane storyline or any other aspect of the movie, other than Loki’s fate. People go to the movies to have fun, there is no reason to make them sob in the end.
I think Marvel were a bit unprepared for the fangirl reaction to this character. It’s not that they were baiting the female audience toward Loki in the beginning. It just happened on its own. Now it seems they don’t know what to do with him.
I always had an assumption that Tom may suffer from ADHD. A lot of creative types do.
Tom about not being part of The Avengers: Age of Ultron.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=38266
given what he says I doubt Loki will be in Avengers 3. Maybe they’ll make a Loki movie to explain what happened to Loki when he fell at the end of Thor.
I’m happy if he sticks with this franchise. Then I dont have to see his ugly mug elsewhere. I hope he’s fully occupied with it for years to come.
He won Best Villain by public vote at the MTV Movie Awards 2013. Studios will do ANYTHING for that age demographic. Marvel optioned him for 5 – so expect 2 more. And I expect before those 2 movies, a change in PR team. We may disagree about TH’s looks, health, talent, ambition, hubris – but I think we all agree he is smart.
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