Charlie Sheen’s ex, Brooke Mueller, has been undergoing drug tests as a condition to regain custody of her four year-old twins. We’ve heard in the past that Brooke was a crystal meth user, and that was what prompted her 21st stint in rehab. Brooke’s attorney would only admit that his client was having issues with her Adderall prescription, and claimed that was the reason for her rehab stay. In her bid to regain custody, and the fat $55,000 a month checks that go along with that, Brooke recently declared that she had seven months of sobriety. (She was clearly counting her rehab stay in that time, but whatever.)
Well I guess Brooke didn’t think that she had a problem with prescription amphetamines, as her lawyer tried to spin it, because she tested positive for Adderall in her court-ordered drug tests. But don’t worry! It won’t affect her bid for full custody at all. It’s a prescription, although reports emphasize that there’s no way to tell if she’s snorting or smoking it. I did a little research and I think I found that there’s also no way for drug tests to tell how much of a drug a person is taking, and if they’re taking it at therapeutic levels or abusing it. (Please comment with a clarification or correction to this if you have other information.) So whatever is going on with Brooke, whether she’s abusing Adderall or not, she’s home free since it’s a prescription:
The ex-wife of Charlie Sheen told a judge recently that she’s been stoically sober for seven months, but RadarOnline.com has learned, Brooke Mueller recently returned a positive test for Adderall, the amphetamine used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
It’s the same drug she blamed for sending her to rehab — her 19th stunt — last December and comes after an angry Sheen tweeted at the weekend that his third ex-wife was an “adderol [sic] snorting husk.”
The mother of troubled twins Bob and Max, four, “tested positive for amphetamines under the court ordered drug tests she is required to take,” a source with direct knowledge of the situation revealed to RadarOnline.com.
“However, the hair follicle test revealed that the positive result was from the Adderall that she takes for ADHD and has a prescription for. There is no indication that she is abusing crystal methamphetamine, as she has done in the past.”
What makes Mueller’s use of Adderall somewhat perplexing is her previous abuse and efforts to get clean of the prescription drug.
“Brooke was uncomfortable with the way Adderall was making her behave,” her attorney Yale Galanter said previously.
Said a source: “Brooke has snorted and smoked Adderall in the past. There is no way to determine if Brooke is snorting or smoking it, or if she is taking it in the pill form, as prescribed.
“But if Brooke was truly serious about her sobriety, you would have to think that she wouldn’t be taking Adderall. Someone with her extensive addiction to crystal meth can be treated with another class of prescription drugs that aren’t amphetamine based.”
Despite this revelation, the source added that socialite Mueller, 36, is still on track to regain full custody of her twins with the Anger Management star and that child protective services don’t view this as a violation because of her prescription.
Brooke was seen outside of an AA meeting over the weekend. Doesn’t AA teach that all drugs are bad and that addicts should avoid potentially addictive prescription drugs as well? I realize that’s controversial, especially when someone is in need of pain medication, but this woman is taking a prescription amphetamine. This just makes it sound like her “sobriety” is a ploy to get her kids, and the child support payments, back. If she was really serious about getting sober, wouldn’t she try to kick Adderall too?
I just thought of something. Remember how Lindsay Lohan was bitching when Betty Ford doctors took her Adderall away? Brooke Mueller started out in Betty Ford rehab this year but switched to another rehab. (Brooke deliberately chose to rehab with Lindsay, thinking they would be besties, but Lindsay snubbed her.) It was reported that Brooke couldn’t hack the manual labor required at Betty Ford, which is damning enough. What if she really couldn’t hack getting off Adderall?
Brooke Mueller is shown on 11-8 picking up the twins from school and yesterday, on 11-11-13. She was reportedly shopping for a condo. She probably wants to get out of the gated community where Charlie and Denise live. Credit: FameFlynet
For the life of me, I can’t understand how custody to Brooke Mueller is even an option. I just don’t get it all. Who the hell is handling that case? The woman is disturbingly unstable.
Sadly, women who are three times as crazy get to keep custody of their kids.
Who else would take the kids? Charlie sure doesn’t give enough of a damn to try to clean up his act, though I do wonder why his family isn’t an option.
However, I bet if Brooke were poor, those kids would have been yanked from her years ago.
My impression is that child services is as unreasonably biased toward birth parents at every income level. If a birth parent, no matter how unfit, expresses interest in custody, odds are, they will get it. It is horrible.
The Native American community often has kids taken from it for no reason at all. There was a report on NPR a few years ago about how a mother’s kids were taken from her out of the blue — kidnapped, basically — because supposedly some unknown person reported her being addicted to prescription drugs. Which she was not. And these kids were taken away and put into foster care when they had family who were willing and able to take care of them, and they were put into foster care with white people when there were Native American foster care people with space to take them, which is not supposed to happen, and they were abused while in foster care. This kind of thing happens all the time.
Here’s the article: http://www.npr.org/2011/10/25/141672992/native-foster-care-lost-children-shattered-families
@ Emily C. – I just read that article, and it breaks my heart. Shameful and horrifying doesn’t even begin to describe it. Yet DCFS thinks it’s perfectly fine to return two little boys to someone they previously deemed unfit because of the very thing that they are now excusing, because she has an RX?!
Wow, I followed your link….that is horrible. The United States Goverment just can’t seem to stop screwing the Native Americans, can they.
This is all too common – I see it again and again working with kids.
What a bunch of crap.
Insanity!
“Brook Mueller tested positive for amphetamines, but it won’t affect custody.”
Next we’ll see, the headline will be something along the lines of “Brook Mueller attempts to sell a twin on Ebay to augment her drug funds, but it won’t affect custody” or other like.
What a terrible shame for those poor little boys.
How DO the people at Child Services sleep at night?
In the judge’s case, I would think – soundly, on a big pile of money, with a glass of baby tears on the bedside table…
And a silk handkerchief to wipe the children’s blood off his hands before he goes to sleep, soundly and happily, on all that money.
Unbelievably sad…just sick.
“Brooke Mueller carves Swastika into head, but it won’t affect custody.”
“Brooke Mueller throws Molotov cocktail through Denise RIchards’ window, but it won’t affect custody.”
“Brooke Mueller forces son to make model of the White House with Heroin needles instead of popsicle sticks for school art project, but it won’t affect custody.”
Awesome!
And so close to the truth.
Are people saying the judge was bought off? I’m a little slow. If so, by whom? I thought this was the usual bias toward giving kids to their biological mothers no matter how deranged and dangerous they are.
The jokes write themselves .
As an addict she shouldn’t be taking ANY drugs that are addictive. End of story.
If she truly need medication to treat her “ADHD” there are non-amphetamine based ADHD medications. There is no reason to take Adderall except that she’s a junkie and she’s getting high off it.
+1. There are other non-addictive meds she could try. I have ADHD, so I’m talking from experience. And besides, if she’s a recovering drug addict, I would think that maintaining her sobriety should be more of an issue than treating her alleged ADHD.
Exactly.
My son has ADHD and Aspergers’ syndrome, and I refuse to let him take ANY stimulant-based meds for his condition. There are other meds available that are not amphetamine based.
Just want to chime in as another person who has ADHD – when I was first diagnosed in my early 30’s (although the patterns had been there since childhood), the first thing the doctor did was to try me on several different amphetamine-based medications – Ritalin, Adderall, etc. I ended up being on a different medication entirely because – for me – I found the amphetamine-based meds to be exhausting and quite addictive. YMMV.
@JD good for you – my son has ADHD and Autism and we refused to let him take medication – we found that exercise helped him a lot with the symptoms 🙂
bingo Strattera is not a controlled substance and was the first approved to treat ADHD in adults
I have been hearing over and over on this board that ADDERALL is so bad, but I don’t think the drug should be slammed as much as the addicts and doctors over prescribing it! I used to take Adderall, but switched to something less addictive like Vyvanse that is supposed to phase out Adderall in the future because of those very addicts who snort and shot it up! And I MUCH prefer Vyvanse to Adderall because I don’t get that “weird high” that would drive me crazy because I felt like I had just done a few lines … and to be productive and focused who would want that? I talked to my doctor and first we tried the non-stimulant Strattera for ADD, but it was a waste, but I’m finally happy with my prescription and I don’t feel any weird changes in my body. My son also has ADD and for the last 5 years (he’s 15 now) he has opted to NOT take any medications after taking various stimulants and wanted to go the natural route. His teachers and my friends thought I was in the wrong for letting a 10 year old make such a big decision, but as his mother I was 100% behind him because taking a stimulant should be a personal choice even if you’re a kid and I cannot tell a lie it makes me very nervous and uncomfortable to think that if I took a meth test that it would return positive 🙁
Those poor kids!
Exactly.
And no doctor in their right mind would perscribe addictive medicines to an addict.
The child in the orange shirt has the odd shaped head that comes from fetal alcohol syndrome or the mother using drugs while pregnant . How can Drs not notice this? This whole deal makes me sick
um…yeah, if you’re a recovering addict of meth, I can’t see how any reputable doctor would prescribe what is essentially “legal”, prescription meth (for non-ADHD diagnosed people).
I fear for those poor boys’ safety.
That’s the problem I guess. Doc shopping. No good doctor would be like “Oh, you have a meth problem? Well let’s keep on with this adderall thing”
absolutely. as another poster stated, if you are diagnosed with REAL HONEST-TO-G*D ADHD, there are non-addictive non-amphetamine based alternatives to Adderall.
she just wants to get high, “legally”.
I always love the justification for idiots like Mueller failing drug tests, just like Lohan. “Prescription for ADHD”. GMAFB. That is just the adult addicts way of legally possessing and using a form of speed.
*Slow claps* for the courts and DFS in California.
*adding to the applause*
ME TOO!!!
Why is the prescribing physician not under some scrutiny? Is she being weened off of it? I would think that she can’t be taking enormous amounts, or her weight wouldn’t be sustained. Unless she has more than one addiction. Don’t amphetamines cause a loss in appetite? I thought that was the original pharmaceutical use, as a diet drug.
You don’t have to be weened off Adderall – you simply stop taking it. The fact that she is taking it just shows that she is NOT serious about staying clean. Yes, the physician should be under scrutiny but the problem is Brooke. She is probably physician shopping until she finds one who doesn’t know her story and will prescribe it.
Yes, amphetamines cause a loss of appetite. That’s why it’s so popular and abused in Hollywood. And Brooke could be taking large amounts and not sustaining her weight because your body becomes used to (can’t think of the right word!) the Adderall and you have to keep increasing the dose to get the same effects. So an abuser who has been abusing for a long time could be taking a large dose but not getting the same effects that a non-abuser would get.
“You don’t have to be weened off Adderall – you simply stop taking it. The fact that she is taking it just shows that she is NOT serious about staying clean.”
Errr, seriously? Have you ever taken it regularly? As in daily, within your system, not recreationally? Because that’s a profoundly simplistic, uninformed statement to make. Adderall is an amphetamine, you experience withdrawal if you “simply stop taking it”. Some people choose to go cold turkey to quit, true, but most still experience some degree of withdrawal.
This is bs I did opioids (5 months daily) and had terrible classic withdraws and took adderall for five yrs stopped cold np.
I know you can test/measure for therapeutic levels of other drugs (such as depakote for seizures.) I don’t know if that’s possible with Adderall.
Yep, I had to get blood work done every 3 months for the first 2 years I was on Depakote, and then anytime I had a seizure. I did a quick Google search, and it looks like if they did a blood test on Brooke, rather than a urine test, they could determine how much Adderall she has in her system & whether it’s within therapeutic range or above/below. Her freaking doctor should be doing this anyway, simply to monitor her & make sure the med is working for her…if it’s not being done, then the use of the med is suspect, as is the person prescribing it.
They could also do a hair follicle test. It shows the level of drug in your system back 6 mo.s to 1 year.
Sharra – I think they did a follicle test – that’s how they reportedly knew that it was from prescribed Adderal, not Meth.
I have taken adderall on and off for years and it doesn’t require any tests to check levels. The right dose is determined based on trial and error.
I just don’t understand how people can abuse this drug. Its so unpleasant if I take anything more than the minimum, but maybe that is because I hate over focusing and kind of appreciate elements of my ADHD brain even though it can cause serious productivity problems too. When I was a college student I gave one to my friend and he stayed up for 24 hours with it, whereas I can fall asleep an hour after taking it. I wish it was more control led because people like her give it such a bad name for legitimate users.
@GrumpyCat.
I know the feeling. I became such a brat when I was on it. If someone interrupted me when I was doing something they were liable to get their head taken off-I will say though I was NEVER more productive than I was the two months I was on it-until my parents decided they couldn’t stand to be around me anymore and asked the doctor to change my meds.
After the initial nausea I get (about 2 weeks-every day throwing up and be generally unhappy) I adapt to the medications-especially depression medications, I was pulled off two of them because my dosage needed grew too high for the doctors to be comfortable with.
And the trial and error finding you the correct dosage is the WORST. Mood swings, nausea and the nothing working so your’e sick for no reason. I don’t understand why someone would put them through that if it was necessary…
Obvious
I have ADD with commordity depression and anxiety and I have never been able to stay on meds just because of the awful side effects. If I could find an anti depressant that doesnt give me severe nausea, I would happily take it. As for the ADD, I rely heavily on diet, supplements and meditation. I just cant understand why I, a person who NEEDS these drugs, cant physically tolerate them. While others can just pop xanax, ritalin and adderol for pleasure no less.
@GrumpyCat
I agree. I find that most people who use it and actually need it don’t particularly love the way it makes them feel. I take it because I need to, not because I want to. The worst part for me is that I used to have more imagination because I could let my mind wander. I really miss that.
I believe some drug tests can show the level of drugs in your system. I was in the military for 15yrs, so subjected to frequent ‘random’ urine tests (they actually go in the stall WITH YOU to watch you pee in the cup & everything-very cozy). During our annual drug prevention counseling the NCOIC would tell us that not only could they determine what drugs soldiers were taking but how much. He was shocked that some levels were so high that it was like soldiers were shooting up in their barracks right before coming to work.
Yes. I believe most drug blood levels can be tested. It’s like alcohol blood tests for DUIs.
Psychiatrist here. A serum blood level test can tell you the amount of a specific drug in your body. Hair, urine, and saliva can detect the drug in your system, but not the precise amount, whereas the serum blood level test is accurate and can tell you the amount of the drug in the system as well as whether it is within therapeutic range or out of range.
Why is it that everyone in Hollywood now has ADHD? And more interesting is the fact that it’s alot of people that have or have had drug problems. Sounds like Adderall is the new “legal” drug. After all it is prescription amphetamines. Talk about finding a way around something.
Adderall is over-prescribed, in general. There is no blood test for ADHD. Children who are prescribed Adderall, or any adult, for that matter, will be more focused and perform better on tasks and studying. The problem is that the effects of the drug work that way for ALL people, not just people with ADHD. I think it’s often an easy way out, to prescribe a drug rather than working on other solutions for behaviors. The DX of ADHD has increased substantially over the years.
That said, a physician prescribing such a drug for an addict (of similar substances) displays a serious lack of judgement.
Its weird because I remember going through extensive testing as a kid to get diagnosed with ADD. I even had brain wave tests and intelligence tests. That was the 80’s though, before it became so popular.
What I’m saying is that the DX is dependent upon an opinion, as opposed to a blood test where the numbers can tell you a blood cell count.
I watched a documentary on Netflix a year ago called Generation RX. It brought up ‘My 7 year old doesn’t pay attention, he runs around and tries to play’ which made doctors decide the kid was ADHD and medications were prescribed versus actually looking at it as he was being a kid. One child ended up having mental health disorders by the age of 11 (doctors started him on drugs at about 4-5) due to the various drugs the doctors gave him. The documentary offers insight on the abuse of mind and behavior altering drugs and what they are actually doing as well as the pharmaceutical companies and their corruption (Like knowing their antidepressants caused suicidal thoughts in children which ended with the child committing suicide for years). I highly recommend this documentary.
There are genuine medical disorders such as schizophrenia but I can’t buy into the ADD/ADHD hoopla. My brother was on Ritalin for a while and he was a zombie which lead to a change in overall personality even after my mother took him off of them. Some people have the capacity to focus easier than others but I don’t think it requires a drug close to speed to fix- especially one that’s so incredibly addictive and can cause negative side effects on behavior and the mind.
ADHD has become a total generic diagnosis because it’s totally subjective. I’d guess the percentage of Hollywood that actually has ADHD is super low. They’re taking Adderall for the side-effects: weight control and energy.
This story just keeps getting worse, she has NO business w/Adderall.
at this point she is abusing what ever she can get her hands on…
Child Services just seems shady as heck in this, smdh.
I am pretty sure they can tell the levels of prescription pills and know if you are taking more than prescribed. I have a question about the AAA picture, while I know the paps will take picts anywhere, don’t they have any shame in taking them at AAA? It is suppose to be annynomous so it just seems like even they should respect that and at least wait untill she is away from the area. I know I am asking a lot, but what if they snapped one of someone NOT in the public eyes (although even “celebs” deserve privacy at AAA) and this person truly wants it kept a secret as it should be? I would be pitching a fit if I had been at the meeting. Crappy. 🙁
*cough* AA *cough*
Lol whoops 😉
That is not usually the case. Blood screens at the hospital/ER have a drug screen section and it just says positive or negative. Usually for canabanoids, opiates, speed and cocaine.
This is just an addict doing anything to stay on something legally so she can get her paychecks back.
Some people are proud of their hard won sobriety, and do not mind others knowing. Some people prefer the to be anonymous. My mother in law was in for 40 years and sponsored over 60 people and she was very proud of what she and they had done. they took a group photo for her 70th birthday.
OF COURSE! Damn them, they’re putting those poor children lifes at risk!
What is wrong with LA? I don’t understand how this is acceptable? What do you have to out there to lose your kids? Those kids are in harms way, no one cares? Denise is better woman than me! I can’t imagine what she had to put up with or jump thru hoops while she had these kids. This is just the tip of the iceberg….
As a recovering addict, I can tell you that she isn’t suppose to be on ANYTHING habit-forming, prescription or otherwise. Her doctor is a moron! As well, alcoholics shouldn’t do drugs of any kind; and drug addicts aren’t suppose to drink. A DROP. Only being clean of ALL substances is considered sober.
But yes, a person’s time in rehab (if they are free of all chemicals) can be added to their “clean/sober” time. It’s marked from the first day you are sober…no matter where you are.
You aren’t supposed to abuse anything habit forming. In the 12 In 12 book, it states basically that all people have their role, and if a doctor thinks something will help you that has no non-habit forming alternative, they say to listen to your doctor. A lot of older AAs will say “don’t take any pills” but the majority of AAs in a recovery town like I live in understand that sometimes there is no other viable option and suggest caution.
What’s a recovering addict supposed to do if they’re in a car accident or injure their back or have something else that makes painkillers a necessity for daily life? I’m on Tramadol right now, and have what my doctor calls a “dependence” on it, but he’s not even considering taking me off it yet because I need some kind of strong painkiller to function on any level and medical marijuana isn’t legal in my state. It’s either very strong painkillers or have unbearable pain. So what does an addict do in that situation?
An addict either bites on the proverbial silver bullet or takes the pain medication with the doctor seriously supervising. I’ve taken pain meds since I’ve been sober, and never had an issue with them. It’s tough to get addicted while you’re projectile vomiting. 🙂
What a disgrace! Who is Brooke’s doctor? Conrad Murray? Does Hollywood have a higher percentage of ADHD in adults, than any other state? So the doctor is on the take, the judge is crazy, and the losers are those poor little boys. I hate to say it, but nothing is going to happen with custody, until something really bad happens to those boys. I pray that I am wrong!
And whenever I say some people don’t deserve to have kids people say I’m being mean. This just makes me sick.
I agree with you Skyler. I think meth addicts should be sterilized too, I can’t count how many sick stories of what these subhumans do to their kids. And the courts and CPS hand them back their poor kids time after time.
@lavina
Whoa there! I agree with everyone here that this is an all round terrible situation for the kids, but forcible sterilisation? “subhumans”?
How about you keep reading the comments section, a lot of people with personal and familial experience with addiction have bravely put their stories up in this thread, so how about having some compassion, or even just some courtesy? You don’t have to have *all* the sympathy for addicts, but “subhuman” is crossing the damn line. Maybe it would be good to consider how attitudes such as yours contribute to the stigma addicts face and deter them from seeking help.
I really don’t get how she can get custody while the temporary carer (Denise) claimed that the children started showing disturbing and distressing behaviour after having more contact with their mother. Isn’t there even going to be an extra inquiry into that issue before the kids are returned to brooke?
And yeah custody was taken away because of rehab for amphetamines and now amphetamines were found in her system… Fucked up.
I don’t know why DCFS is catering to Brooke–who cares if you piss her off, its not like she can afford to sue you! She can only sue you if Charlie pays for it, which he wouldn’t so, go ahead!
It has nothing to do with DCFS. If a physician is lawfully prescribing a drug, they can’t just take custody away, unless there are proven instances of abuse or neglect. You can direct your anger at the doctor for making a poor medical judgement, instead.
I totally agree about the doctor – but the doctor isn’t pushing the pills down Brooke’s throat. The blame/anger should be directed at her. She is responsible for her actions. She asked the doctor for the prescription (and was possibly dishonest w/her doctor about her addictions). She got the prescription filled. She is taking the drug.
DCFS can not override a physician’s opinion/DX, if there is no cause to remove the children. And physicians have the right and obligation to turn down a patient’s request for drugs, if they see the script as dangerous or inappropriate. They are not supposed to be making drugs available by request, in spite of all the direct advertising that goes on these days. That was my point.
They can, however, petition the court to require Brooke to see a court-approved doctor to determine whether the scrip is legit. It’s actually fairly common in dependency cases and it’s usually a part of a reunification plan. Personally I’m baffled why the court’s only requirement is that she be sober when she’s a habitual user and has flunked rehab repeatedly.
As for Adderall, I’m so glad to hear I wasn’t the only one who hated it. My parents refused to medicate me until I was 18 because they were worried about dependency. They worked with me every day to develop coping strategies so that I didn’t have to medicate and I am forever grateful for that. I took the meds when I went to college because I just couldn’t cope enough and I felt physically sick and, for lack of a better phrase, my brain felt muffled. I have no doubt that there are a number of factors contributing to Brooke’s useless, but whatever doctor is prescribing a drug that is disturbingly habit-forming and gets you high really, really easily can only be labeled a quack.
A relative of mine was on more than ten different synergistic drugs and drinking a forty a day when we finally got him to rehab. We went after the doctor who prescribed him all those meds. I’m pleased to say that the doctor is under review. Too bad Brooke’s family doesn’t care that much.
If Sheen spent some time talking to counsel instead of rambling on twitter, perhaps he could initiate some motion like that for the court to consider?
I think the powers that be should feel nothing but shame for letting this woman have custody of these two boys. Shame on them. If she tests positive for one drug the others will come. Charlie should sue the state of California and each individual who made the decision to put these children back in a home with a drug addict and her brother who only is in it for the money. And yes I know Charlie isn’t an innocent here but you know what he is willing to pay to ensure a safe home for these children which their mother is NOT. She wants them for the money so she can be high as a kite and can hang out with her druggie friends. If she really cared about her kids she would admit as Charlie has that she is not the person they should be with.
To the addiction/physician correlation – my dad is a nondiscriminating addict. He has been addicted to any/everything. It’s compulsive. He gets addicted to taking the car to be washed or making the perfect cup of coffee…
At any rate – his drug of choice has always been alcohol, but after being on Anabuse for a year, he no longer has the urge and doesn’t even need the Anabuse anymore – a great thing.
But his DOCTOR (who is well respected and has a great reputation) keeps prescribing him Methadone for pain management (he has some nerve damage from a procedure on his leg). As if that weren’t bad enough, this same Dr. has him on a huge amount of other prescription drugs, some of which should never be prescribed with Methadone due to the “heroin like” effects of the combinations. Add to this the enablers he surrounds himself with and he’s basically catatonic all the time. It’s a shit storm.
All this to say that many, many doctors will prescribe to addicts. It’s not difficult at all to find a seemingly legit MD to write you scripts for anything you want. I’m sure, just like LaLohan, Brooke’s doctor would insist that she “needs” the Adderall.
As someone who has fibromyalgia, nerve pain is no joke. I feel for your father. The doctor may be trying to figure out what is a better quality of life: pain or dependence. (Physicians aren’t cruel; they don’t want people dependent.) I think in your dads case the alarms should go off if he is using it more than prescribed. Also keep in mind that the ‘fun’ part of opiates doesn’t work if you’re in actual pain. True story. The issue is that the dose is not one size fits all, so if he only had a little bit of pain one day he still has to take X amount, and possibly be high.
I’m so sorry, though. I know my husband and family hate that I have pain meds too. I tried OTC for so long that I got GERD and then it was more harm than good…and then came the hard stuff. Look into pain patches (Butrans is really good for non addiction/fun), as its a way to have a constant amount if relief without the highs and low of pills. That is, if Dad will let you get involved. :-/ Good luck, sweets.
Oh, Melissa! I’m so sorry for your pain. I’m not against my dad (or anyone else!) having proper treatment at all. But by his admission the Methadone doesn’t work well and he takes 4x the prescribed amount. I also know that Methadone on its own doesn’t get you high, but add in the Benzos he’s also prescribed and he’s nodding off constantly – just like a junkie. His wife is a pusher and he’s and addict – it’s a bad scene. He’s been having nerve blocker injections as well. His quality of life right now is absolutely awful and he WANTS to be off the meds, but trusts the wrong people in his life. I think for nonaddicts, these courses may not be problematice, but, just like Brooke, people with long term addiction histories should not be prescribed highly addictive substances – there are so many alternatives.
Aww man, that is a totally bad scene. I’m so sorry. 🙁 I think he is an excellent candidate for the patches then. And wow, I bet the holidays are fun with his wife! /-:
Gigi,
I’m a nurse who moved from the Chicagoland area to Atlanta about 6 years ago, and I was absolutely shocked to find that doctors here commonly prescribe methadone for pain control. Methadone is known to be almost as addictive as the heroine they are addicted to, but is worth the risk because it is less damaging to your system. To see it used as a common pain reliever is just appalling. Addicts will do as addicts do. The doctors are the bigger problem here.
STFU she’s 36?!
Reading about Brooke is the same as reading about Lohan. A waste of your time. Everyday there is an update about either one of them which convinces you that this is the final straw Lohan is going to jail or Brooke will lose custody and at the 11th hour they manage to avoid their fate. I only read Lohan posts for humor and Brooke posts are sad because there are 3 kids involved so I get no joy out of it.
I just don’t understand drug addiction… what would make someone say “heck yah, I should snort some adderal.” Is anyone a recovering addict here? What drove you to it? Is it just a natural inclination to enjoy it, like some people enjoy celery and others don’t… or is it a lot deeper than that?
I think there is a genetic component. Just like some people have a tendency towards cancer or heart problems or allergies, some people have a tendency to react to substances differently.
My close relative’s odyssey started innocuously enough – he had a tremor that required medication to control, along with supposed ADHD. He started taking the meds in high school. Then he added pot because it relaxed his anxiety and it escalated from there…to cocaine, LSD, Xtasy, basically anything he could get his hands on. His whole personality changed – he went from a low self esteem, quiet guy to the big man on campus. He loved his pills – they turned him from Clark Kent to Superman. The addiction followed him into adulthood, and after two stints of rehab we believe he is clean, but who really knows? His moods swing dramatically, so it is hard to tell if he’s using again or if he’s having a really bad day. All it takes are parents who turn a blind eye, and a doctor’s prescription. Oh, the cautionary tales I could tell….
We have to be very careful with prescription pills. I was at a pharmacy yesterday with my teenage son, and it had a large sign that said it does not stock OxyContin. I have four people close to me who have OD’d and died from this drug. That sign led to a very serious discussion with my son about the dangers of abusing prescription pills, and how they can lead to addiction and death. We’ve talked about it before, but I explained to him why pharmacies are afraid to stock it.
I don’t know about the genetic component, has it been proven? I have more than one addict in my family, but the others are distant cousins and started using for their own reasons. That side of my family is particularly troubled and fractured. I tend to think it is more a matter of access and circumstance.
I hear you on the OxyContin! I live in central KY, and there has been a HUGE abuse problem with it here. I suffer from chronic, debilitating migraines (I actually got 34 shots of Botox medical in my head/neck/shoulders yesterday) but I’ve always been one who has tried to stay away from narcotics as treatment. When one of my previous neurologists was insistent that he was going to give me OxyContin for my migraines, I completely refused…and found a new neurologist. Interestingly enough, former neurologist is no longer practicing.
The genetic component only makes one 6% more like to become addicted to a substance.
I’m a recovering drug addict! What “drove” me to it? Everyone’s story will be different. I grew up in an upper-middle class family with a history of, on both sides, alcoholism (so the genetic component was there). I drank socially in my late teens to my mid 20s….and then it got heavier (I’m in my 40s now). Drugs? After a few surgeries (in my 20s), I got hooked on painkillers. And, because I travelled a lot for my work, I started taking sleeping pills to deal with time changes and jet lag. SOOOO…by the time I was 30, I was hooked on booze, sedatives and narcotic pain killers. It was gradual. As well, I suffered from depression, and these chemicals gave me relief (most addicts have underlying, untreated mental illness of some sort). What kills me is that many in society seem to think that addicts are party animals who become addicts on purpose! It’s VERY complicated, and trust me…NOBODY wants this hell.
As to why some users crush, chew or snort their drug? The affect of the drug hits you quicker and more intensely, depending on how you take it (I’m not gonna give lessons on how to use).
Anyhow, I’m clean now, after 3 stints in rehab, and the help of several shrinks…but mostly, because of the love and support of my family. Sad to say…but I think Brooke is beyond help.
Congrats and good luck Marie!
I wish you the best
Each day presents a choice to use, and each day that you resist is a victory. I wish you strength and good health. Thank you for sharing your story – it gives me hope!
My brother is an addict and it’s a deep deep psychological thing for him. It’s incredibly sad. He just keeps chasing the next high. Then that high isn’t high enough anymore and you find the next. He’s overdosed a few times and you’d think that would scare him but it doesn’t. It’s horrible. He has cut off all contact with me because I tried to get him help. I know help can’t be pushed on someone but I can’t just sit back and watch him kill himself.
My brother used to be super smart, outgoing, caring, funny, etc. Just an all-around great guy. But 15 years of drug abuse have seriously f*cked with his brain. He’s not the same person (even when he’s clean) and is just – slow. Even when he’s there he’s not all there… which makes me wonder how Brooke can possibly be a mother to twin boys. Maybe the drugs haven’t eroded her brain to the same degree as my brother – but when someone isn’t mentally all there, how can they possibly care for young children??
I’m so sorry, emmie a. My comments above were about my brother too. I can empathize with what you are going through. Try to stay strong for your brother…you sound like a very loving sister.
Thanks so much Shannon. I’m glad to hear your brother is clean – it’s such a hard journey… I noticed with the pills your brother started pot and then it escalated. I always thought my brother was just a functioning pot-head. But I was totally floored when I found out the extent of his use. I mean he uses everything. Swallows, snorts, injects. Ugh. I’ve always been terrified of drugs – I wish he felt the same way!
Thank you everyone for sharing, much appreciated. And bless you all as well.
A lot of people are different. My brother is an addict. It started very early, before he was a teenager. He was sexually abused by his stepfather, and I think that’s where it began for him. Life has always been very difficult for him. He’s in his mid-forties, and sometimes stays clean for a while, but when something triggers him, it gets out of control. I worked so hard to have him civilly committed so that he could get help for the underlying psychiatric problems (and the police backed me up, because they had been called so many times because of his episodes), but the judge shot me down, because he had a history of drug abuse. I felt that if someone could help him with his mental illnesses, that it would at least start a clearer path to recovery. If there’s any good that came out of this, it’s that because I’ve watched him live in perpetual turmoil my entire life (he’s twenty years older than me) I’ve never once tried anything. I think it would be a slap in the face him as well, because he’s always been so protective of me and wanted more for my life than what he got.
There is definitely a genetic component. My father is an alcoholic — he took one drink and that was it. He cannot have just one drink. I’ve never seen him just have one beer or one glass of wine; put alcohol in front of him, and he gets drunk, every time. And he is a highly intelligent, driven person with a lot of willpower over almost everything else (more than me) and a very strong work ethic. Alcoholism runs in his family on both sides among the men. It doesn’t hit all of them, but enough. I’m lucky; I didn’t inherit that predisposition. Instead, I inherited an allergy to sulfates and propensity to have MASSIVE hangovers from drinking very little from my mother and her mother before her.
However, I was prescribed percocet after I threw my back out, and was addicted to it after taking less than the prescribed dose for only two weeks. I couldn’t sleep for a week after I stopped taking it. I can’t imagine how people who take it for longer manage stopping without rehab.
I don’t get what she is being treated for with the Adderal? ADHD? With her history, I’d think the trade off of being medicated — the high likelihood of abuse/addiction — is way worse than living with untreated ADHD. I call BS on this being a legit prescription.
Okay, what I am about to say is controversial, but there has been a ton written (although I can’t find anything this early without my coffee) that suggests treating ADHD eliminates substance abuse. ADHDers have a higher prevelance of thrill seeking behavior by nature. Further, there were studies that suggested previous meth users were simply self medicating and that once they were adequately (therapeutically) medicated, that all other thrill seeking and self medicating was curbed. So…it could stand to reason that her psych does think she’s ADHD and that if given an opportunity to have ‘medication’ that she will no longer abuse.
HOWEVER, as someone who has ADHD, I have to point out that ADHD meds are not fun when abused. They cause severe agitation, not a high. So why she previously abused her meds kinda blows my mind as its the grossest ‘high’ when could have. Which makes me think she is just an addict, not ADHD, and that her psych is an IDIOT, as is CPS.
Ps. I stopped taking my meds because it kept flaring my fibro big time. I am a slacker now but it’s preferred over head to toe pain.
I haven’t seen those studies, but if true, you make an interesting point and it may be justification for the script.
If her doctor is treating her ADHD as a way to control her addictions, there are other very effective ADHD medications that are not Amphetamine based. There is really no justification for giving an addict Amphetamines because they are super addictive and again, there are other non-addictive drugs that can treat ADHD.
There are a few things that really, really piss me off in this world. Two of them are child abuse and prescription drug abuse.
I know there are some cases in prescription abuse where it isn’t a person’s fault, like when someone who has come out of major surgery and they accidentally get addicted. But when it’s stuff like this it infuriates me.
I’m one of the few people in this country to be lucky enough to have health insurance, and thank God, because I suffer from mental illness and learning disabilities. I’ve been taking prescriptions since I was a kid and it’s Hell. Part of the problem is how people like Brooke have made it really hard for people like me. There are countless legal restrictions and things in line because of this shit. Time limits between prescriptions and refills, for instance. And then there are people always trying to steal your pills. One of the worst times in my life when I came home one day to find my pills stolen. I was left without my proper medication for weeks because I’m legally required to wait X amount of weeks between prescriptions. I have to keep my pills hidden and locked up. If my pills get lost or stolen, I’m SOL. Some of them cost a fortune even with insurance. And everyone who hears that I take psych meds immediately assumes I’m an addict, decide they’re a licensed psychiatrist, and start lecturing me in the most condescending manner about how I shouldn’t be putting all those rotten chemicals into my system. I don’t know what I’m going to do once my insurance runs out. It’s a constant stress for me and stuff like this only makes it worse.
…Well to be fair, I don’t think anyone ever sets out to become an addict. It’s a disease. But it is hard for me to have any sympathy for Brooke. It just seems like she’s not serious about being clean and she knows she’s going to get another chance every time she messes up so she doesn’t do the things she is supposed to do. She knows she doesn’t have to get clean and hold down a job and support herself and take care of her responsibilities so as long as she stays alive she’s ok.
But I get what you’re saying and I’m sorry you have stress because of medical/medication issues. A friend of mine has a son with severe ADD and he needs Adderall. For a period a few years ago they lost thier health insurance and because everyone is being diagnosed w/ADD or ADHD, there was a nationwide Adderall shortage. She couldn’t get it anywhere and when she finally did find it, it cost her over $400 for a month — the same drug that used to cost her $11/month (drug companies are evil!)
emmie_a,
Drug companies ARE evil!
Prescription drugs are more expensive in the United States than anywhere else in the world because our country is the only industrialized nation that doesn’t enforce price controls to keep prescription drug costs down. U.S. drug companies have fought against limiting drug prices, or allowing the importation of price-controlled medications from other countries as it would deprive the pharmaceutical industry of billions of dollars in profit.
I myself would buy Canadian drugs online if my husband and I weren’t fortunate to have health insurance. Even though importing Canadian drugs is against U.S. policy, the FDA has said that it will not prosecute individuals who import small (3 months or less) amounts for personal use. If you have questions about whether a Canadian online pharmacy is legitimate, you can contact the Canadian province or territory licensing body where your pharmacy is located. – http://seniorliving.about.com/od/lawpolitics/a/reducedrugcosts.htm
In fact, the high cost of prescription drugs in the U.S. is forcing local governments to get involved, and the city of Warren, Michigan, the state of Vermont, and others, sponsor group busing programs to help seniors purchase Canadian prescription drugs! – http://seniorliving.about.com/od/lawpolitics/a/reducedrugcosts.htm
I’m just going to say this. Adderall is highly addictive. I was prescribed it when I was a teenager for my ADHD. It worked fantastically-almost too well. I lost weight became snappish and bitchy nonstop. When my doctors decided to switch me to the newer form of Ritalin (LA) I went through withdrawals. I had only been on it about 8 weeks.m
Drug addicts should NOT be given adderall, there are so many other options out there to treat whatever they have. Period.
Adderall is rich man’s meth. My SIL used to buy it and started smoking crack and meth when she didn’t have money to buy adderall scripts from her friend anymore.
However, when given to a person with ADD or ADHD it is wonderful. My husband was legitimately diagnosed with ADHD at age 7 and he has no interest in taking his adderall prescription because he doesn’t enjoy the way it makes him feel (even though it greatly improves his focus and productivity). There are others I know who were diagnosed young and feel the same way. People who legitimately have ADD or ADHD don’t have a problem kicking adderall. The fact that brooke is a meth addict tells me that she’s using adderall as a meth substitute and that she does not need it to treat a medical condition. From what I hear, adderall is quite addictive to people who do not have ADD or ADHD.
I don’t think a global statement can be made about addiction vs non-addiction, in those given the diagnosis, based on a couple of anecdotes.
Well, antidotally, people up thread have made similar statements. This is a gossip blog where we state out opinions. I’m not claiming to be a medical professional, just merely making an educated statement based on the experiences that friends and loved ones have related to me. Adderall is not too pleasant for those that need it. Most prefer the way they feel without it, if they truly suffer from ADD/ADHD. People who abuse adderall are doing it for the high. I don’t know what about my opinion appears problematic to you.
I think you are interpreting the tone differently than it was intended. Someone may have ADHD and still may become an addict. Conversely, someone may take Adderall, without a legitimate diagnosis, and not become an addict. I guess I should have expounded. I wasn’t asserting that your opinion was a bad one. Just that it doesn’t encompass all the possible scenarios.
I hear a lot about people getting scripts for Adderall simply to keep their weight down. Easier than exercising I guess.
There are exceptions to almost every “rule.” Adderall is a class 2 controlled substance similar to meth, oxys, opiates and cocaine. As a matter of fact, studies have shown that when taken in comparable doses, methamphetamine and Adderall (amphetamine) are effectively identical (hence my statement about adderall being “the rich man’s meth.”) http://csrspreadscience.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/how-does-adderall-work-a-psa/
Sure, there are people who can use the aforementioned substances and not become addicted, but the fact of the matter is that most without ADD/ADHD will. My point was only that it’s highly addictive but seems to have a lower incidence of abuse in those with a legitimate diagnosis of ADD/ADHD because its been said that these stimulants work differently on the receptors than someone who doesn’t have ADD/ADHD (which would explain why certain people do not become addicted).
The kids are what is important here and it seems that the laws that should ensure their safety and wellbeing are failing them.
The judge will say the law means his hands are tied.
Social services will say the same thing.
The politicians NEED to change the laws for ALL kids, rich or poor. What will it take? Charlie Sheen weeping over his dead children? Because as it stands, all I can see is a tragedy waiting to happen.
I may feel bad for the children, but I have zero, none, nada sympathy for Sheen. He created this situation, in the first place, and took no productive measures to correct it.
If Charlie Sheen actually cared about his kids, he would change himself and create a safe and healthy living environment for them in his own home. He didn’t even show up at a meeting he was supposed to go to about them. He’s scum.
Melissa, Kiddo, and Emily C:
If Charlie Sheen gave a sh*t about ANYONE else, let alone his children, he would have got a vasectomy a long time ago!
Adderall is the new Methadone.
What? Adderall is nothing remotely like Methadone. ?
This is so sad. Frankly, I had hoped that under all Charlie’s posing and bluster ther might be a real father underneath. Apparently not. Brooke is repulsive, but why can’t Sheen grow up and BE A MAN? It’s way past time. So sad.
Because, of COURSE it won’t. My God. I love it that prescription drug addicts/abusers get treated (and act) as if they are some how “better” than addicts of illegal drugs. Are you f’ng kidding me??? Why is this a thing? Charlie’s already recently stated publicly, on record, that Brooke has been SNORTING the Adderal pills. (I’m pretty sure that that’s not the intended method of usage. *Side eye*)
You know what? Why don’t we ask those sweet boys 10 years from now whether or not it mattered that the drugs their mother was constantly getting rocked out on were “prescribed.” I just have zero respect for the California court system. What a freaking mess it proves itself to be time and time again. Shame on them.
JAYSUS! REALLY?
Why are there so many pictures of her with her mouth gaping open and her tongue hanging out??? Every picture of her lately is the same thing…they can’t all be accidental bad shots
The only conclusion I can draw from the recent articles in the subject is that whoever is making decisions with regards to those kids must be pretty high themselves. Surely there is someone above them? Maybe with some common sense and who actually has the children’s interest at heart?? Do those kids need to get hurt in order for someone to make the right decision?!
Off topic, but ever since someone pointed out her face and all the weird faces she makes in EVERY picture she’s in, that’s all I see. She really does make some crazy ass faces!! lol
Not defending this crazy lady, but to be fair, weird photos are selected intentionally here for their comedic value. It’s usually people in mid-sentence.
Yeah, I love the batshit crazy faces on this site!
AA does not say you can’t take a prescribed pill. AA is about being honest with yourself, and if you don’t think you are addicted to pills, AA can’t force you to stop, and you can’t get “kicked out” of AA. People show up to meetings coming down from a high, people relapse and come back hung over. It doesn’t really matter if you haven’t stopped, it matters if you have the desire to stop.
Given Adderall is only for kids, you KNOW this woman is abusing it. Argh.
What? Adderall most certainly is not only for kids. I’m 24 and have a prescription for it from one of the best psychiatrists in my province, and many people 40 or older in my therapy group use it as well.
Who was she before she became Sheen’s drug partner that happened to get pregnant?
Dommy Dearest,
Ostensibly, Brooke was a ‘socialite’ before she married Sheen. When Brooke started dating Charlie, it was rumored she probably did so by the hour. Mueller has tried acting, real estate, and had a blink and you missed it stint as a special correspondent on Extra.
Ohhh I see now. I thought she was just some normal person with drug issues which was what attracted Sheen to her.
Thank you 😀
No, you missed the hooker part.
Nice, gg! “By the hour” is perhaps a tad too refined a description of our Miss Brooke’s CV before marrying Charlie Sheen. 🙂
LAWLS
You ladies are hilarious
I agree that Mueller is totally f*cked up and, with her addiction issues, should most definitely not be on adderall– though I’m not a doctor, which is an important qualifier (a ton of these commenters appear to not only know everything, but seem to have all gone to fantastic medical schools)
That said, can we all cool it a little with the adderall-hate? I’ve suffered from severe ADHD (and depression as a result of that) for most of my life, and adderall has been a game changer for me. I have a legitimate script, I take the prescribed amount, and to say it is ‘therapeutic’ for me is the understatement of the century. I can actually hold a job, finish projects, get things done. Some people may abuse it, but you shouldn’t be throwing shade at everyone who uses it– my legitimate prescription has helped me tremendously.
Great comment, Molly!
I’m tired of seeing narcotics and Adderall demonized when they’ve been a Godsend for so many. The increasingly restrictive laws are nothing but a hold over puritanical witchhunt! Under new legislation, patients who can now get a six-month supply would need to visit their doctors every 30 days to renew a prescription. This means people who’re otherwise totally incapacitated and literally bedridden by pain have to get behind the wheel once a month to drive to their doctor for legitimate pain management. This has gotten completely out of hand and has to stop!
IMO, ALL drugs should be legalized and controlled, but that will never happen as long as organized crime keeps donating hefty dark money to both party’s campaign war chests.
I agree. Just because Aderall was horrible for me doesn’t mean it’s not a game changer for others. Every person’s needs are different-however I stick by my assertion that a drug addict should not be on it unless every other drug out there has been tried and monitored.
Lets not forget about Charlie, because Brooke with all het problems is considered a better parent than him. He should be ashamed of himself, I wish he was ashamed, that may give him some self insight and step up to the plate.
He is dispicable.
Please make this story go away.
Sure she is being treated for ADD. So she can focus on what, exactly? Does she work? Pay bills? Function as an adult in any capacity whatsoever? Don’t think so.
I was about to go off on an Adderall rant, but luckily everything I could’ve said has been said, because I’m suddenly preoccupied by the need to look up “socialite.”
I always figured the socialite tag was a nice way of saying Carlos was engaged to be married to a woman who was well into adulthood (late 20’s) who had no education, skills or gainful employment. It was the Paris era and I think someone just said lets make Brooke a “Socialite,” I mean she does socialize and thats kind of a job right, RIGHT!
This is awful.
My cousin was medicated with Ritalin as a child for ADD/ADHD. He has got to be about 43 – 45 now so this was a while ago, but it was prescribed A LOT way back it first came out for boys who were hyperactive in school, as I remember. Anyhow, he grew up and became BIG TIME addicted to (EVERYTHING), but mostly speed, crank, crack, now METH. My Aunt attributes some of his addiction to the early use of Ritalin.
What an amazing legal system they have out there in LA
If this is not going to affect her custody, it should! When she went to rehab, Adderall was one of the substances. Whether a doctor is prescribing it or not should make no difference. It got her into rehab! There are alternative medications she should take.
Charlie hit it when he called her chubby. Don’t people take it to lose weight? I bet that’s part of it and her excuse is her uncontrollable ADHD.
Charlie calling her chubby is a very bad thing. Usually people gain weight when they’re kicking addiction. This speeds her right back to the Adderall because she probably can’t bear being called “chubby”. Shame on Charlie for getting in everybody’s way.
Exactly, gg. I think Charlie knew exactly what he was doing when he said that. He doesn’t want her to have custody, and he doesn’t much care how that happens.
You can tell by her weight whether she is abusing it. I’d say she’s at therapeutic levels now, but what addict possibly has the self control to stay at a therapeutic level on the very thing they were previously abusing?
An addict doesn’t. Which is why she shouldn’t be on it now and, if she is, should be closely monitored. A doctor will only give her a prescription for the number of days she needs to take it, for example 30 days, and the person would not get a refill prior to the 30 days. I knew someone with a back injury who’d take all his muscle relaxants when he refilled his rx, and then had to wait 60 days or whatever so he could do it again.
Adderall is a gateway drug for her, which is why no legit rehab would allow her to have it, and there is no therapeutic level of adderall for an adderall abuser, ever. It’s almost the same as meth, and when it doesn’t do what she wants adderall to do which is to get her high she is going to run right out and buy and use meth. She’s not even been out a week and she’s using prescription adderall * meth lite*, how long before she’s smoking meth again? Two weeks, three? Once you’ve abused adderall you can’t use it therapeutically ever again. She’s such a sh*tbag, she only cares about getting high and her Charlie money, the kids are meaningless to her. Or she would have not used anything – for them.
ere in America there are ways to test how much someone has been taking. It’s called a hair follacle (sp) test. I’ve always believed there was something going in with Charlie and Lindsay probably why she snubbed Brooke. Meth is a huge problem. So is spice now too.
Long time lurker, first time poster. I work for DCS (not in California). The drug tests absolutely do show how much of a drug is in your system and whether or not your within the therapeutic level or over. Even if a parent has a valid prescription, if the test shows they are over the therapeutic level they have a positive drug test and sanctions are leveled. Children would not be given back to a parent that just failed a drug test. Of course, this is California so I don’t know what the hell their doing.
I don’t even know what to say to this but “what the f—” and that’s all.
Physician here, and I used to work in a clinic with a very high risk population. About drug testing- short answer is there’s lots of different “drugs of abuse” tests, but the most common (and cheapest) ones simply show positive and negative and nothing more. We had specific ones available that showed levels of each drug and how many by products were also in their system, allowing us to know both how much was being taken, and how long ago. By few systems use these kinds of tests and they’re probably not even readily available in all parts of the country.
Pretty sure most courts go by the standard set by the Dept of Health & Human Services for drug testing, which is a urine test. In addition to cost/convenience factors, it’s also an issue of performing the least invasive method (as opposed to a blood test). She probably tested positive with the urine and challenged it by volunteering the follicle test. (Health systems employee here.)
My take on this? A desperately sad tragedy both unfolding and waiting to happen. It’ll only be after the fact that anyone in authority understands the implications of what’s being ignored and overlooked here. I’m sick to death of bitches who have no problem popping out babies but then can’t or won’t stand up for them as mothers! I have one child by birth, one adopted, two older step kids I parent as much as possible, plus my son’s girlfriend, whom I count as mine. Outside of my son, all had frikking looney tunes, drug addicted moms who couldn’t hack it. I’m NOT singing my praises, motherhood is damned hard, but love them hard and at least try your best is a formula that seems to work pretty well.
I CAN NOT
ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT
WITH HER!!!!!!!
She is vile and selfish and neglectful and… I just can’t with her 🙁
It’s California so of course the kids won’t be taken from her even if she smokes crack at a court hearing about those kids. It’s obvious she’s a terrible parent, will never be sober, and the boys will be damaged by living with her crazy ass but the DCFS will never remove her as their mother because she has access to money, and she’s white. A black or hispanic woman would have had her parental rights suspended when they were infants but not a rich white woman, they dont want to get sued by her. So if she kills the boys it will be the same tired line every time a child is returned to a negligent drug addict and the kid dies, DCFS did everything it could to ensure their safety and health. All lies by the way. They’d rather risk the kids being killed and not defend a lawsuit than try to help these poor little guys before that happens. I feel for the kids, and I really feel for Charlie, while not living a conventional lifestyle he’s made sure the kids had a normal life and good care, something their dope fiend mother never had the time or interest in doing. Pity the boys because they probably won’t make it long enough to start school. Notice DCFS doesn’t take to being criticized publicly for sending kids home with a barely out of rehab junkie who’s already testing dirty?
The State of California needs to be careful with this one. Jaycee Duggard deserved every last penny of her suit. These kids deserve loving, stable caretakers.