As you can see, Us Weekly is really trying to sell us on Meghan Markle, American Princess. Sure, I’m buying it! Especially since it seems like Meghan has moved out of her Toronto home and has already flown out to London, where it seems she’ll be spending the Thanksgiving holiday. There were photos of Meghan in London yesterday, doing a spot of shopping:
As the Daily Mail revealed weeks ago,when we told how she was moving to London at end of Nov, #MeghanMarkle is here https://t.co/1BudAc5LIM
— Rebecca English (@RE_DailyMail) November 21, 2017
I’m not sure what I think of the scarf here, but I appreciate the rest of her outfit. The Style Wars – real or imagined – are going to be so much fun in the years to come. Maybe Meghan’s California-cool-style presence will finally get the Duchess of Cambridge out of her twee doilies and wedges.
Anyway, the Us Weekly story is meh – they say that Meghan and Harry are already engaged and already planning their wedding, which will be next summer. Meghan isn’t going to get her own place in London, she’s “moving right in” to Harry’s place. Harry hopes that Meghan will go to William and Kate if she has any questions, which… hahaha, that’s not going to happen. Us Weekly also claims that even though Meghan plans to spend the rest of 2017 in London with Harry, they aren’t officially announcing the engagement any time soon – sources say the announcement “will likely be some time in January. It gives Meghan some to get settled and will be a great start to 2018.” Noooo! Please give us some good news this year. Plus, if they get engaged officially in the next few weeks, that means Meghan can spend Christmas with the royal family.
People Mag also confirmed the Meg-is-moving-in-with-Harry story, and a source tells People: “Harry has made no secret of the fact that he wants to marry her. She is the one.”
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Yeah, someone on Twitter posted that she was being chauffeured around in a Range Rover yesterday.
I think if anything, they will announce their engagement late spring, early summer for an early fall 2018 wedding. The British public have never seen her in an official capacity, they know she is the one but I think they are going to make a few official appearances, wait until Kate gives birth, then announce the engagement.
Usually there aren’t official appearances until a formal engagement is announced. Them being together openly at the Invictus Games was something not seen before.
Princess Madeleine attended her brother’s wedding 2 days before she gave birth. There is no need for anyone to schedule their lives around Kate Middleton expecting.
I was hoping it wouldn’t be her. Something about it just doesn’t seem right.
What kind of person would you prefer?
Before Christmas or just after the New Year would be my bet.
Then a June/July wedding.
Even if they’re engaged she can’t spend xmas with the royals- only married royals are allowed. I agree with the January announcement. Give her a couple weeks to settle in before throwing her in the deep end. My guess she’ll also want to spend one last xmas with her mam and family in California. If harry doesn’t get a house in the sandringham estate it’ll probably be a while before they get to spend it together again.
I thought if you were engaged you can spend Christmas with the Queen. I’m guessing that if Meghan is in England during Christmas, that she will be with Harry. I doubt that he’s just going to leave her at home. If that were the case, I would be sure to be with my mama either in the UK or in Cali. F*ck that.
I’m surprised she’s in the UK right now. I thought for sure she’d spend one last Thanksgiving in America with her mom.
I mean. If they get married can she never come back for Thanksgiving? Isn’t it not a British thing anyway? I would imagine she and Harry could visit for Thanksgiving as a private trip once they’re married. I dunno some of these royal family etiquette rules baffle me.
“One last” seems a bit dramatic. I have UK family and it’s a bitch of a flight from the West Coast, but the East Coast is an easy midway meeting point, if you have jobs and a tight vacation schedule. But for Meghan and her mom, who don’t have office jobs, the 10 hour LA-London flight in first class is easy enough to manage. Lord knows I manage it in coach often enough.
Meghan is used to flying. It becomes nothing if you do it a lot. I think her mother would visit her since she is an only child. Thanksgiving overseas can be fun for non-Americans and Americans abroad who find each other.
Loving those black strappy heels!
yeah….this outfit is my favorite of hers.
McQueen!!😍
I mis-read that as McKEEN…
I think the Cambridges have custody of ‘Keen’.
I look forward to a new word to hate with the Harry Mountbatten- Windsors.
MM style will surely challenge lazy entitled waitie Do little to become more appropriate/better dignified in her very few appearances.
I can’t wait to see the media war unless I loose interest. It’s always the same thing. Clothes and lack of engagements. Endless speculations since real info is so scarce. Being here for comments is super fun at the moment so for as long as there are so many witty comments here I will come back.
The black dress is lovely. would have gone for a pump for the shoe but oh well.
I like the shoe she chose. The dress is already a solid black, a pump would just age the outfit, IMO.
it looks good either way so whatevs. I watched an interview with Craig Ferguson that she did a couple years ago. She has the kind of body that can pull off pretty much anything clothing/shoes – wise. I wonder how much she works out. She isn’t 20 anymore.
Agree, her strappy heels go well with her dress. I can already see she has better styling than Kate, thank goodness.
I know she does a lot of yoga, so that may contribute to her staying so slim, also genetics, her mom seems pretty fit.
2017 has been such a dumpster fire. On the one hand, it would be so nice to have this fluffy engagement/royal wedding to have the year end on a happy note -on the other, I don’t blame them a bit if they want a fresh start too by announcing it in January.
I know this post isn’t about her but Gwenyth definitely did something to her face. I couldn’t not see it once I saw her. For some reason I didn’t think she would, or that she would at least wait longer.
She looks like Melania!
Melania who?!?
I’m hoping for an announcement in December, a happy end to this craptastic year. I’d love for her to attend the pre-Christmas lunch. It’s been great to see Harry so happy, and I’m more than ready for him to be done third wheeling with the do-littles.
I don’t know why “princess Meghan” annoys me so much, but she REALLY does.
Might want to dig deep and look into that. LOL!
It’s probably not her, it’s the way she is being pushed completely on all of us…
Ding ding ding! Yup thats it! It is a little too much.
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isn’t her real name Rachel? Do you think she will stick with Meghan (her middle name iirc) or switch back to Rachel?
Ava – what are you talking about? Rachel is her character on Suits.
Her birth name is Rachel Meghan Markle.
LOL! Miss b, I don’t like “Princess Meghan” either. In case they are married she’ll be a Duchess probably. Or Princess Harry.
I’ve decided to call her M. I don’t want to call her Sparkle anymore. IMHO she looks like the cat that got the cream. More decorum for a (future?) member of the BRF should be a must. M works for me.
I am be biased, but Princess Meghan sounds just fine to me. 😉
Wallis Simpson was a monster – but SHE was the first American bride in the British Royal Family.
I disagree with the ‘monster’ label, but yeah, Wallis was the first American to marry into the BRF, even if it was after David abdicated. Eh, it’s US magazine.
+100 @Hazel
If Meg ancestors search is to be believed – Princess Henry in waiting Meg Sparkle, is a decendant of HM Mum (QEl) family tree (dual US British citizen).
Coincidentally (?!), potential King Henry -Sparkle in waiting will be in the same RF position as the Queen Mum, who was married to the spare – King George Vl …
Except she won’t be in the same position as the queen mum, given George is the spare, not Harry.
@Polly, I know what you mean but technically George is the heir, Charlotte is the spare.
I keep bein confused about the rushed time table these two are apparently supposed to follow? I mean I get the need for like ONE GOOD THING to happen this year 🙂
But realistically I’m totally fine with these two taking another year or even longer to live together, figure out how they mesh and decide if they really want to get married. I mean marrying into the Royal Family is a life changing step that will not even be over for Meghan should she ever get divorced. I’m not sure if I expect her to have made that decision after dating him long-distance for a year and never having lived together.
Could also be that I’m just not romantic enough to be impatient about the announcement though…
Totally with you. A royal wedding will be fun. But to take on this role, is difficult and life changing for anyone. They never lived together; they only spend about 3 weeks at a time togehter; and she never really “faced” the UK public. Let them move in, really spend time together and her getting acclimated to the situation- and not just for a few weeks. Brtish press can be rough; a life this public can be tough- she should really know what she is getting herself into.
Letizia and Felipe, Rania and Abdullah – married within a year of meeting. I don’t think either couple lived together before announcing the engagement.
We don’t know if they will marry or if they’re even talking about it – although we’re talking about it a lot. It appears she has been spending blocks of time with him between filming, including a 2 month stint at the start of this year. Her living at KP (if that is happening) without a formal engagement or job opens her up to huge amounts of criticism.
The royal married-ins who have thrived knew themselves before marrying in (Maxima, Letizia, Daniel, etc.) and have done fine.
These people you mentioned lived in the same country. MM and Harry didn’t.
Well, I think the BRF is also the most high profile royal family so it’s a bit different than the Spanish royals and such.
Wasn’t Sophie allowed to live with Edward for 5 years at Buckingham Palace? And Kate lived with Wlliam. I don’t get the criticism. After the disaster of the Wales marriage, I would think that people would be happy for them to live together.
Yes, I agree, too. Long distance, just a few weeks at at a time at most. I know people here say she is an actress, used to publicity, but come on – she isn’t used to the kind of publicity she will be getting. She wasn’t a star, just a relatively unknown actress until she dated Harry. She will now be getting the level of scrutiny that JLaw or Kristin Stewart or the world’s most famous actresses get and that must absolutely be a change for her. She will never again be able to walk out onto a public street without being harassed, chased, photographed and criticized.
I think for 99.9% of humans, that is too much, and again, her minor celebrity in no way prepared her for this type of attention. She may be fine, but it will be a huge change.
Add in all of the new rules, add in the snit of many Brits who want their favorite son to marry an English rose, and yes – she should absolutely take her time making this decision.
And the day I see her curtsying to someone, I will know all of her words about independence, etc,, were just empty words and that being in the BRF is more important to her than being her own person. Americans DO NOT curtsy. No matter what.
Do you also think Maxima, Letizia, Mathilde, Daniel, etc. all fail at being their “own person” because they married in to royal families and follow their (sometimes silly) rules?
Disagree!
MM is was an actress with publicity like the others for huge NBC – she just wasn’t publicly flashy and hung out with the excess – more private dignified with few trusted friends.
Celine Dion state this best when Whitney passed and her shock – to paraphrase – Celine was stating, she do not ‘do/hang out’ in Hollywood (for the obvious excess… ), she stated she attend functions and leave. MM could be seen as similar.
But people know who Celine Dion is. The whole world knew her when Titanic came out. And she was a Star before and after. Meghan Markle was never on that Level. Its not a diss. But Suits is not a break out show that has a huge following, that garnered reporting in Gossip Mags or blogs. And before Suits she basically filmed guest spots on Castle etc. She was never an in demand actress. She is not Jennifer Lawrence or Emma Stone. Before she dated Harry, was she ever mentioned on this Site? In People or US Mag? Nope. So this Level of fame, attention and everything that comes with it, will be new. For a year she could fly under the radar most of the time. But once she will be part of the Firm, she cant avoid it anymore.
But Meghan Markle was never a celebrity in her own right. Celion Dion always was. Take Kaley Cuoco for example. An actress on a ensemble show. But people know her, gossip mags and blogs report about her, she hosts award shows etc.
Meghan Markle was never this person. Before she dated Harry, she did not happen and I don´t think its her own making but rather that she was too unknown.
I had never even heard of Meghan or Suits,until she started dating Harry, and I don’t know of any job as an actress that she’s had. I still haven’t watched Suits and don’t know what it’s about. She went from unknown to now being on magazine covers, hundreds of articles about her daily, and people getting so excited about the marriage that might never even happen. If this relationship never happened, she probably would never have become a well known celebrity who everyone was interested in. Did many of the people who adore her and are hoping to hear the announcement of the couples wedding know who she was before she got together with Harry ?
@Maren…Oh you really do not understand the meaning of to ‘curtsey’. It has nothing to do with being ‘independent’, you are not curtseying to the person but their position, it is simply a sign of respect, like shaking hands with your right hand and not your left which is considered terribly important in some cultures. I am so surprised that people seem to want to dispense with these harmless culturally appropriate forms of etiquette.
Oh, that is another thing. If they marry, have kids and then divorce, don’t the kids stay with the BRF? Would she be allowed to take them back home? Something to think about, for sure, before doing this.
They do not have the luxury of time for a long engagement. There are certain practicalities a) Harry needs a partner for engagements so he can stop being the third wheel with W&K b) She is 36 and needs to make babies….fact.
c) There needs to be an end to the speculation and snide comments about her true relationship with Harry.
Generally, I am not that impressed with her style like others. No, I am not saying its bad but its also not praise worthy to me. But if anything, MM style will be more like Kates, because of protocol, as opposed to Kates style changing.
I think that Meghan has lovely classic style with modern flare. I hope she keeps it that way and doesn’t go Kate style. Also Kate could use a stylist.
mint, I don’t think any royal protocol can be blamed for most of Kate’s mis-fires. I’m pretty sure the Queen doesn’t insist that Kate only wear jeggings and wedges for example. If protocol was influencing Kate’s dress choices I don’t think we’d have seen so much of her underwear over the years. I think at least we’ll get some more interesting shoe choices from Meghan — heh, the bar is low for Meghan in a way. Just about anything she wears will be more interesting. That black dress and the shoes in the shot above are miles more contemporary to me than Kate’s beloved lace dresses.
Don´t get me wrong- stylewise Kate is a lost cause. I dont understand why all the clothes sell out in minutes after Kate wears them- at least it used to be this way. Its boring paired with boring. But Kaiser wrote, that maybe Kates style will change with Meghans presence. But realisticly, at least for me, my bet is that MM style will change as she will be expected to dress more conservativly. I don´t think that MM style is on some Lady Gaga level that needs to tone down but eg this black dress and the strappy heels- I don´t think she will be able to dress that way. For me its perfectly fine, while not really exciting. But I dont think that she will be able to show her bare knee, or walk around in ripped jeans etc.
Kate often wears things a year or two after they were made so there isn’t much inventory left and they can claim it was “sold out”. It’s only the UK press that tries to pretend people dress like Kate. She has been married since 2011 and we haven’t seen an upswing in sales of jeggings, wedges and striped tops.
I still think she looks like Pippa .
Not saying it isn’t a real fairy tale experience but the timing of all of this is so suspicious. The older royals push the younger royals to do more work. They step back and pass on more duties. Harry is getting older. Time to add another royal and recharge the establishment. One more fresh body to do more work so that the distribution of labor is kept and the younger royals don’t have to work so hard.
It’s probably both. Harry and Megan are in love, but it’s also a convenient union that can bring a fresh face to the monarchy, as well as someone to do public events with Harry to take the heat off Will and Kate (and others).
So finally a picture with M in London has been published. It’s the second time I see pics with her in the UK after some taken at Heathrow in 2016. Are the BRF letting in some pics to increase the public acceptance of M? They are controlling their image with such a tight fist. I only read CB for royal European gossip and I don’t know if media in European countries with royals in candid situations or even paps pictures?
It depends on the country. The Netherlands and Luxembourg have pretty strict media codes about not photographing royals in public. I don’t know about the others.
Thanks, nota. I follow some Instagram accounts on royalty and I’ve seen loads of pics with European RFs. There are so many pictures with them and they seem to be official pictures, all of them. But many, including with children. Not that many from the BRF though. Princess Josephine of Denmark is my absolute crush. Gorgeous, funny and super expressive. That little Princess is a STAR!!
I think Monaco has strict anti-paparazzi laws in general, so any candid shots with the Monaco twins usually come when they are swimming in France. Not a lot of those out there, also because Albert and Charlene do so many photo shoots and release lots of pictures of the kids themselves.
I’ve seen photos of Victoria, Daniel, and the kids taken in public and then published, or posted to social media accounts of people who see them in public. Again not many. Madeleine takes the initiative to release pictures herself on facebook to cut down on pap pictures. Also a handful of pictures of Mary or Marie of Denmark with the kids in public, so I think photographing them in public isn’t *illegal* but not done that often.
Apart from these latest pictures there are at least three sets of pictures of Meghan in London over the past 12 months. She has been seen with Harry in London on at least two occasions and when she was not so well known she used to go out shopping alone. Hopefully she can still manage to go out without being photographed.
I doubt the British press will give her a moments peace when she is out in public. No more incognito strolls to Whole Foods in Kensington for Miss Megan.
Yes, Kaz, no more buying flowers from the Polish lady at the flower shop beside the church.
It’s really really in MMs best interest to live with Harry first for least a year or even more before deciding if it’s the life she wants for herself. I get that she’s over 35 and would want to start having kids, but so are many others. Hmm. I don’t understand the rush at all. Even the much beloved Sophie who is British had to live with Edward for few years before getting married.
But it still wouldn’t be the life she’s going to lead, right? Just living with him and being his girlfriend/secret fiancee is not going to be the same thing as being a Royal Duchess. The only way she’ll know that is to be it.
Many royals have said you learn the job by doing it. Sophie and Edward took years because he kept balking about marriage every time it was brought up in the tabloids. She admitted that at some point herself.
Living in the UK (possibly with him at KP), not having a job, but not being officially engaged? That position or lack of position would gain her a lot of criticism, if nothing else because of the visa situation. Weren’t we told Kate Middleton moved into the Anglesey cottage in spring/summer 2010, months before the engagement? Who knows how much time she actually spent there.
As I wrote on another post, if she started a charity or social enterprise with £50,000-250,000 she’d likely qualify for a 4 year entrepreneur visa. That wouldn’t stop the “oh she’s living off the taxpayers” criticism.
I’m trying to remember others who married in. Haakon and Mette-Marit moved into a private apartment together in August 2000, announced engagement in December of that year. I don’t remember anyone saying Mette-Marit was paying.
Daniel moved to a 2-bedroom cottage on the castle grounds in summer 2008. The Palace released a statement that he was paying rent. They announced their engagement in February 2009 and married in June.
They married in June 2010.
Given that I don’t know how charities as organizations work in the UK, and that English is not my first language: how can one get an entrepreneur visa for setting up a charity? Charities are non-profits. For me entrepreneur has some sort of financial gain connotation. Charities have their own personnel but they need money to pay for salaries and all the rest of costs. There are so many details relating to the setting up of a charity, making partnerships, getting funding. And I don’t see her sharing premises with another charity – imagine the uproar as her security costs could be covered by the Met police. Or the other charity paying for her costs.
I am wondering who and how many British civil servants are making plans and strategies to make things look OK as to M’s presence in Harry the Ordinary’s life. PR acceptance. They, in case they are aware of the varied positive and especially negative perceptions of M and her royal relationship, should come up with good plans, strategies and PR moves. There are way too many questions and no answers at all. An eventual marriage will be a very serious strategy and PR exercise.
I don’t know if a charity would count, that’s why I put “social enterprise” as well, which is a combination of charity and business that puts people to work and brings in money.
From the website about Tier 1 entrepreneur visas: “You can also apply if you’ve already invested £50,000 in a UK business. You must have invested the funds less than 12 months before you apply.”
As I can never get links to go through, I’m putting an edited version of the Tier 1 site in this separate post
www(dot)gov(dot)uk/tier-1-entrepreneur
If she lived in London for a year with Harry without an engagement ring it would be a nightmare for Meghan. You cannot compare her to Sophie. Meghan has star quality and Harry is the most popular royal. There would be endless speculation about the nature of their relationship and her security.
I was hoping for a December announcement, but realistically, January makes more sense. Maybe a June/July wedding as that will give Kate a couple of months recuperation time from having Baby #3. If I remember correctly, Diana/Charles announced in February for a July wedding, so maybe we’ll get a January/June from Harry and Meghan.
I am really looking forward to the announcement, the ring, the wedding and the style wars (which I’m predicting Meghan will win!).
I’m surprised she isn’t spending Thanksgiving with her mother.
Other Renee: She could be staying in London up to Christmas when she’ll duck home to spend with her mother ? If they’re not engaged by the holidays wouldn’t Meghan be excluded from the Sandringham stuff, so she may as well go home then ? Meanwhile she’ll get a few weeks in with Harry until that point.
I think she’s excluded anyway until they’re married. Girlfriends and fiancees don’t make the Sandringham cut.
Yes but that’s an entirely different holiday. Just wondered why she’d move to England so close to Thanksgiving and not wait til after that special day.
@Other Renee….that is exactly why I believe that she DID attend the Windsor dinner party celebrations, what other reasons could she have to fly in when she did? Or did she pre book a cheap flight and did not want to lose the money? I think not. The dinner party was planned well in advance and was for very close family and friends who know how to keep their mouths shut. I believe she was there.
@Other Renee….that is exactly why I believe that she DID attend the Windsor dinner party celebrations, what other reasons could she have to fly in when she did? Or did she pre book a cheap flight and did not want to lose the money? I think not. The dinner party was planned well in advance and was for very close family and friends who know how to keep their mouths shut. I believe she was there. Anyway let’s see how long she stays in London before leaving again.
Yay for Meghan moving to London!!!!! But US magazine drives me nuts with their childish wordplay: Princess Bride! Who do they hire to write this stuff?
One thing for sure: not some of these smart people on this blog and their royal readers and commentators! CB should be compulsory reading.
I agree!
Unfortunately for this couple in love, everything about them points to them not having a successful long-term relationship. Their upbringing was different, their religious backgrounds were different, their cultural backgrounds are different.
Best that they take their time before proceeding. IMO
Says the prophet of doom…..
Yes because two people from different backgrounds can’t make a relationship work long term *rolls eyes*
Different religions like what? She went to a Catholic high school and so Church of E wouldn’t be that big a stretch. They seem to have very similar interests and are in love. I’m sure they’ll be fine.
They both come from divorced families, both are Christian (her being Jewish has been debunked, and she’s likely some form of Protestant as many people attend Catholic schools without being Catholic). Granted she earns her own living and her place in the world, he’s worked but never put the roof over his own head.
Letizia was a middle class divorcee with Republican leanings and was potentially agnostic if not atheist. She’s doing fine as the Queen Consort of Catholic Spain. Angela of Liechtenstein seems to be doing just fine with her husband. Different backgrounds, different countries, possibly different religions.
Harry and Megan will be able to spend time in the USA and will have many Christmas and Thanksgiving visits. There is no rule about Christmas. William doesn’t attend every year. I bet Harry will love to get away to the USA, probably much more freedom and his wealth will enable a lot of privacy. He is not the ‘spare’ any more and really has quite a lot of time to play.
However they proceed, I hope it’s with the blessings of the British people who, from what I’ve read, aren’t that enamored with her.