Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn broke up in March/April after more than six years together. Everyone wondered what happened between them, but then Swift jumped bajingo-first into a relationship with The 1975’s Matt Healy, a Nazi-saluting British rocker with a long list of racist comments and problematic behavior. The Snake Fam has been in the trenches and Taylor’s team has been trying to downplay and ignore the backlash against Taylor for this Healy relationship. How would Taylor wiggle her way out of this one? Well, last week, Taylor released a new song from her vault on the “Til Dawn Edition” of Midnights. The song is “You’re Losing Me.” This, apparently, is Taylor’s version of what happened between her and Joe Alwyn. In-between a chorus of “Stop, you’re losing me,” she included these clues about what went down:
Every mornin’, I glared at you with storms in my eyes
How can you say that you love someone you can’t tell is dyin’?
I sent you signals and bit my nails down to the quick
My face was gray, but you wouldn’t admit that we were sickAnd the air is thick with loss and indecision
I know my pain is such an imposition
Now, you’re running down the hallway
And you know what they all say
“You don’t know what you got until it’s gone”How long could we be a sad song
‘Til we were too far gone to bring back to life?
I gave you all my best me’s, my endless empathy
And all I did was bleed as I tried to be the bravest soldier
Fighting in only your army, frontlines, don’t you ignore me
I’m the best thing at this party (You’re losing me)
And I wouldn’t marry me either
A pathological people pleaser
Who only wanted you to see her
And I’m fading, thinkin’
“Do something, babe, say something” (Say something)
“Lose something, babe, risk something” (You’re losing me)
“Choose something, babe, I got nothing” (I got nothing)
“To believe, unless you’re choosing me”
[Lyrics from Taylor Swift’s “You’re Losing Me”]
“And I wouldn’t marry me either” has apparently convinced the Snake Fam that Taylor is once again “the victim” in love, that Taylor and Joe broke up because Joe didn’t want to marry her, because he wouldn’t fight for her, because he didn’t want to fight for their relationship. Maybe that’s the case. I have no idea. But I do know that following the release of this song, no one’s talking about Matt Healy being racist anymore!
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No, it doesn’t reveal anything but Taylor wanting us to believe she is the victim, once again.
This trick needs new material.
Amen. This victim routine is dead tired.
Correct, the song doesnt reveal anything, and frankly im not interested really in waiting for a song to come out to have an insider look at what she’s going through. Who has time for this high school cryptic cringe stuff? if you want to do music, just put music out. This comes off as a lack of maturity after so much time doing the same thing
There’s actually a theory among some swifties that Joe either proposed or came close to that some time around New Year’s 2016-2017, at the very beginning of their relationship, but she turned him down. And this is documented/explored in her songs New Year’s Day and Champagne Problems. But, you know, Joe was very insistent on keeping this relationship private, so looks like we’ll never know now. If that is true, homegirl is out there rewriting history, once again. Would anyone be surprised? I’m also irrationally angry at her posturing like she was the only one fighting for this relationship. Joe and his whole family and friend circle closed ranks around her in 2016-2017, her “reputation era”, when she felt she was cancelled(tm) by the Big, Bad Internet – looking back, does anyone else find it strainght-up laughable? she was so cancelled she sold 1.2 million physical copies of her album in the 1st week… Joe also went on tour with her, essentially to be an emotional support blanket for her. Ok, “reputation era” ended, and wouldn’t you know, the Scooter Braun saga began. Pandemic break. “Her last chance to be hugely successful as a pop artist – as a woman in her 30s – playing stadiums”. There’s always some new drama with her. There’s always some feud, obstacle, threat to her, her career, her legacy… Must be exhausting.
Offtopic, but a few words about the re-recordings and Scooter Braun feud. The Swiftie Propaganda Machine has been working really well here, so feels like almost everyone has forgotten that Taylor Swift has the best lawyer in the industry, the guy who wrote an “industry Bible” type of book on industry law. He actually thanks Scott Swift in the acknowledgements of that book! Taylor Swift is P-R-O-T-E-C-T-E-D. She still receives the majority of royalties for her old songs. She has the power to block the usage of her songs in ads and movies. I think the only thing that Scooter Braun – and later, Shamrock Holding – can do with her old music is rearrange songs in new compilations and collections and release those. And get some percentage of the revenue from when those songs are performed on TV, etc. THAT IS ALL. The way she’s acting you would think she was made homeless and thrown to the streets. Oh right, and you know what’s happenning now in the industry as a result of her re-recordings? UMG is adding a clause to their contracts that prevents their artists from re-recording their music. Translation: Taylor Swift is making millions for herself, while making lives of smaller artists, up-and-coming artists, artists with not-at-all-privileged backgrounds significantly harder. Yasss girlboss kween…
Oh btw should we talk about her private jet usage? You know she actually has 2. Or 3, I don’t remember.
Singned, folk/more and apparently Joe Alwyn stan:)
Some valid points, but did you even take a breath? Woof, what an ax to grind…
I still remember the origins story of Big Machine Records that resulted in a lawsuit from Taylor’s former manager, Dan Dymtrow [google him when you get a chance]. Papa Swift hired him back in the day – IIRC he was also/had been Britney Spears manager. Shortly before the Big Machine deal went through, Dymtrow’s management contract was legally rendered null & void on a technicality. The result was he was denied a huge commission on the Big Machine deal. He basically worked 3years promoting her & got nothing to show for it.
And no one ever mentions this, but early in her career Taylor was not always well-liked in the country music circles. Many country purists argued whether Taylor’s music was more pop than country. And as she began to sweep the CMA/ACM awards, there was A LOT of whispering whether she rightfully deserved one that was *Vocalist* of the Year when her pipes were still wobbly – as evidenced in that awful televised duet w/ Stevie Nicks [with a few other live performances on YT adding to the receipts].
I sensed I was witnessing early backlash when her trademarked “Golly, ME?” face was playfully parodied during one country music award ceremony (with the camera cutting to her unamused reaction in the audience).
There was also the suggestion Taylor was perhaps using the country music industry because it contained less competition for the young teen demographic. Miley Cyrus was her only competition as she moved between the Country/Pop worlds. And sure enough, once Taylor had her massive fan base secured, with songs that crossed over to the pop charts, she announced in 2014 she was leaving country for pop.
I don’t know if the link still survives, but I came across a blog post early in her career about the Big Machine/Dan Dymtrow kerfluffle & it contained a comment from a man who spent one evening w/ Taylor & her father when she was barely an opening act for bigger names. Her dream/ambition was always to be the biggest star in the world.
@Lauren haha let’s say it all been brewing for a couple of years, more so the past couple of months, until it finally got out in this ONE comment on the Internet. Although you calling it “an axe to grind” is, to me, an interesting commentary on the current age of Internet communication we live in – where short, categorical, judgement-passing statements, often about someone’s character, are more preferrable than a – long, yes, but still only surface-scratching! – comment with factual info about just how rich a rich person is, and how they manipulate the public to get richer. Had I said “She is a narcissist dating a Nazi” no one would bat an eye, would they?:)
Yes. Swift owns a Dassault Falcon 900 private tri-jet and another Dassault Falcon 50 tri-jet.
It does sound a bit immature like he should have known without her communicating but it also sounds like he expected her to conform…like wife material is only one thing as opposed to a true partnership. He always struck me as a person who uses “privacy” as a shield for being boring.
I’m not following this closely at all, but it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that after 6 years of dating Joe wouldn’t put a ring on it and Taylor is mad about it.
Well i don’t know but the fact that she moved on so quickly into a new relationship tells me she checked out of her former one a long time ago. I just feel like she was the one to end things between her and Joe.
Ha ha ha ha no
A man getting comfortable and checking out is a story as old as time.
I think Taylor wanted to get married and he wasn’t giving her a yes or no, and eventually she checked out.
Both can be true.
You can move on quickly for many reasons and not because you’ve had proper closure which I think Taylo definitely has not had. I think she is bitter and wants to ‘win’ this breakup which is why she’s also not backing down from the Hatty Mealy bs.
@snuffles, yes I think so too. She likely felt resentment staying in such a long relationship with no engagement or marriage on the horizon. And I don’t blame her for THAT. Many women in long term relationships get tired of waiting around, especially if their ideas of the future don’t align with their partners. Reminds me of her friend Lena Durham’s super cringy tweets about not receiving a ring from her other friend Jack Antonoff after six years together. All the hints in the world couldn’t make that happen, and it didn’t happen for Joe and Taylor either.
Obviously it’s what she did AFTER the breakup that is messed up.
She was wearing a large pear shaped solitaire in her Miss Americana film. Who knows what happened.
What?? I watched that doc this year, and I did not see this. I have a pear shaped diamond wedding ring and I would have zoomed in on that. I guess I’ll need to watch again.
If someone does not want to get married ever or at that point, thank goodness they were smart enough not to get married. In the long run it’s the best thing. You are not a victim if someone does not want to marry you, you’re just hurt for awhile, maybe a long while.
But being rejected in that way does not excuse jumping to the most racist, grossest guy ever, and it doesn’t seem like she can be that butt hurt if she hooks up with someone immediately.
Stick to one storyline, sister.
To your first point, while I agree that people who don’t want to get married should not get married, if you don’t want to be married, don’t spend years in a relationship with someone who does – without being clear about where you honestly stand on the “I don’t want to be married ever” vs “I’m not ready right now, but all signs are indicating that I’m heading that way soon, just not right now” continuum.
Because in my experience most people know where they are barring some (including the “yeah sure but never with you” variations) but pose as the latter because they know if they say their “nope, never” truth out loud, the relationship will end and they like things as is.
Not saying that happened here or if so who was who, but in real life, that’s the reality I’ve seen
The thing I would like to know though. Does Taylor want a marriage. Or does Taylor want a wedding. They are totally two seperate things. If she truly wanted to marry Joe. I don’t see how she could be dating anyone that quickly. I think Taylor just wants to have a huge wedding and get all the publicity. But I’m not sure she wants the day in day out work that comes with a marriage. And honestly. Between their two careers, how often did they actually spend together in those six years.
Yeah I mean, Taylor dating this Nazi is beyond gross and disappointing but I can also see that she waited for the next step and it didn’t come and it didn’t come and they fight about it, from her song, and he blew her off. One person leading another on with vague refusals to own up to their real feelings does suck.
Studies show women check out long before they leave, so often when it’s over it’s been over for a while for them whereas men are often “surprised” by a woman leaving even when she’s said she was miserable for years. Women trying to work on the relationship while the man ignored their issues is nothing new. Plus, add in Taylor’s personality and I see her as someone who might use her next relationship as revenge for being rejected.
I just can’t deal with her choice of this Nazi lover, it’s such a bad look for her and she’s too old to get away with claiming she doesn’t understand the endorsement.
I don’t disagree, but it’s possible that he really did not know. It’s also possible that he was clear and she figured she could get him to change his mind. And of course it’s totally possible, as you said, that he knew and didn’t say so. Best guess that it was a combination – relationships are so complex and people who are entirely rational in most of their lives can be really umhinged when it comes to relationships!
The reality I’ve seen is usually the party who wants to get married just doesn’t listen to what the other party is saying. Also, that can fly for a year or two, but six?
Watch Joe get a new girlfriend/wife and baby within the next year or so, while Taylor is still plumbing the depths with Matt Healey. It’s sad but sometimes you’re simply the one before The One, and it doesn’t matter how much effort or how many years you put into the relationship.
I predict he will be married within 2 years and she will still be bouncing from relationship to relationship blaming all her failures on the men.
Men tend to marry who they are with when they are ready to get married. It’s not necessary the “one” or the person they loved the most. It’s timing.
Wow, that’s a super bleak take and makes me feel sorry for you.
@ Anna
😂😂😂😅
Her recent behaviour has just proved that he was right to have doubts about whether he wanted to spend the rest of his life with her.
Maybe she is a victim – of her fame, of her avid fandom she has to feed, her wealth, her character (creativity can do strange things to one’s mind). I can’t imagine a man in the entertainment business who can be strong enough to bear all these things.
We know nothing about their relationship. Maybe Joe didn’t want to be just the “husband of..” and all that came with this – constant interest, constant exposure, constant gossip, speculations about the reasons he lost or got the role, etc. Of course there can be thousand other reasons.
I know one thing – I respect her for her creativity, she is talented in various fields and I have huge respect for such people. Also Folklore was a real thing to listen to. Loved it very much. This albom and a lot of her latest other songs.
Also I’m not the one to police her love life (let’s hope he is just a rebound😉 ).
Wow! So much respect for someone who happily is in a relationship with a huge racist. I guess being a good worker is more important than not being a racist! It’s okay, just like Taylor shows her priorities dating the racist Healy, you show yours respecting her.
Policing her love life? That’s not really a fair description of people objecting to her elevation of a racist nazi.
I won’t be buying her music now, that’s for sure, and I have bought her other albums and even came to admire her growth from that documentary. This is a big old backslide into how and where she started and it’s not pretty or acceptable and it’s actually dangerous to embrace racism and Nazi propagandists.
Forklore erases the choice of a racist misogynist boyfriend cause you loved it. You would except her doing anything to anyone with that mindset. We’ll have fun listening to Folklore with Taylor. You and her disgusting boyfriend probably have that in common *wink wink*
You’re getting a lot of hate for this comment, but I can’t find myself caring about Taylor either way. Good for the people who have so little going on that they can get their moral superiority fix dragging whoever this person dates while they revel in the attention. I remember people hating the guy before too, I guess now he doesn’t look so bad. She’s just exhausting from the word go.
😂😂😂😂
Yet here you are in making comments showing how much you care and how little you have going on.
Not to mention that your comment is so reliving that you are actually a fan and are mad people are calling her out on her racism.
Well after her public support of a mysogynist racist I wouldn’t marry her either.
Joe got a lucky escape from her.
This.
Honestly “I wouldn’t marry me either” is something that your a-hole high school boyfriend would say “you’re too good for me” “you don’t want to be in a relationship with someone like me” Also if she was upset over not getting a ring she should simmer down. Culturally marriage is veiwed differently by Brits and she should know that by know since she’s dated so many. Loads of couples in the UK live together not married in committed relationships as “partners” forever
I see this a lot too with my friends in France in long term relationships, even with kids. They don’t feel the need to put a ring on it. Marriage as a fairytale ending is very American imo and Taylor absolutely wants it.
This. Marriage is pretty passé for those of my age here in France. I def notice a difference w US culture
She totally does. Two of her non-celebrity best friends a few years ago and she was in both bridal parties. She was even that Lena Dunham persons wedding. And of course her former bestie Karli Koss is married and about to have her second child.
She is chomping at the but to get married. Getting engaged, having that wedding, getting pregnant and being a touring mother? Shit all the songs and albums she can squeeze from all that? She is ready.
In the U.S., the government does things to force folks into marriage. There are financial incentives to be married here depending on your income. And Americans love Christianity and interpreting the Bible to make women “serve” men. It’s very weird, and I grew up with it. The ritual is sold, and women are supposed to be “taken care of”. It’s financial and social, and people here are judged for resisting it once you meet someone.
Someone wealthy, like Taylor Swift, wants the ritual and the pictures and the gowns. Relationships are more than that, of course. The biggest weddings I know of ended in divorce. The smaller ones, where folks want to protect their love financially seem to last. If you aren’t married, and you don’t have a will, your partner’s family is in charge of your “estate” if there is anything to inherit, like insurance or a pension. A lot of people marry so that their partner is in charge of their health decisions and what little they have instead of their family.
All this to say that it’s tough to swim against the tide unless you have big bank, and Taylor has the money to swim with the tide and have a massive wedding to check that box.
I think she just got sick and tired of sitting home all the time.
Yeah that’s it
Lol I think this is accurate. She was also tired of acting like a mature adult and a normie.
This right here. This just tells me she wants to be someone who would be happy with a guy like Joe, or how Joe seems, but she just isn’t. She needs a better therapist.
You know she would love an A list dude like Ryan or Tatum (but Brit). Thus all that spin about ‘how successful` Matty is.
By today’s standards she is young and single. I remember what it was like!
Considering how her private jet was in the air all the time I really don’t think she was “ sitting at home all the time”.
Tbf the last few years has probably been her most productive she’s released at least an album a year plus all those cash grab re recordings.
Joe also works consistently and was on set abroad a lot as soon as the movie business started up after the pandemic, so he wasn’t sitting at home either.
And people forget that joe is younger than her and was straight out of drama school when they met. His first film had just been shot and he was new to Hollywood. While she was 10 years into her career and had a lot of experience in that world.
Imao he didn’t see a future/ didn’t want to settle/ marry, they split and she basically hooked up with the first unwashed dude that lovebombed her..
Especially since the sun is reporting she already moving Ratty in, it really doesn’t track that she want to be “ young and single”. In fact she comes across as someone who is scared of being single.
Yes. Terrified of being single.
That song sounds like loads of fun for him. Glad he got out. Dude dodged a major bullet.
The lyrics are awful. Sound like a 14 year old wrote it.
The way her fans act like she is some Mariah Carey level song writer…I Can’t Her music is insufferable, her lyrics are still juvenile, she cannot sing at all or perform, so I scratch my head at her massive appeal. I can see Britney’s appeal even Jessica Simpson and Mandy Moore (when they did music) but I never have gotten the Taylor Swift phenomenon.
This. Her lyrics still sounds like thy were written by a kid in high school. Which made sense when she first started out, because that’s what she was.
She’s now in her mid-30s, and still writing the same juvenile, angsty songs.
This feels like a case of arrested development.
She loves to make herself a victim and her music is siren songs for white women who adore her and her catchy music and above average attractiveness. Whew. Joe dodged a bullet with that one. How he even survived under her gaze for six years is beyond me.
Do ‘women’ of any colour listen to Taylor’s music? I would say teens…
As a black woman i have listened and o her songs and enjoyed. I’ve listened on loop to Maroon. For some reason I could really relate to that song. After his Matt thing and her accepting anything ass self I took all of her songs out of my Apple library and rotation of songs. She’s definitely annoyed me with shit she’s done in the past this takes the cake.
What a weird, racist thing to wonder. Yes, black people such as myself have been fans of hers for over a decade. We have a wide variety of musical interests from classical to country to punk despite the stereotypes you embrace…
Imagine having to fight for someone’s love for 6 years straight?? She’s exhausting.
“No one’s talking about MH being racist anymore.”
Let’s make sure Matty Healy and his loud beliefs get spoken about, shall we? He’s a racist, misogynistic, antisemitic and anti-islamic pos.
Taylor’s publicist is a woman called Tree Paine. (Yes, as in Large-shrublike-plant ache.) Kanye, earning $1 in damages, Scooter, Democrats, private jets…this is the person responsible for TS’s reputation. At least in part. Presumably she is good at what she does, because we aren’t talking about TS’s airplane travel, either.
I dunno, I just saw an article about the Ice Spice controversy in the Washington Post of all places. I don’t think the backlash is over as much as Taylor wants it to be.
There was an article about it in The Guardian too.
Good. It shouldn’t be over. She should continually have to deal with it and not be allowed to squirm away.
I learned this morning that John Mayer did not cover Big Yellow Taxi. It was the Counting Crowes. For the past 20 years, I have thought that was John Mayer singing, and I thought Taylor just quoted a song covered my JM in her breakup song about JA! HAHA Anyways. I tended to have questionable judgement after getting out of longterm relationships. Taylor just has to play out this phase on a world stage. Matt Healy is pretty gross.
The thing is…she doesn’t have to play this out on a world stage. She pays people to tell her that this guy is bad news. People have already told her that he is bad news…BUT her fans who are likely overwhelmingly white are still going to her shows and they don’t care. So there’s really nothing left to do.
I’m still convinced that everything started to unravel after Taylor had MC. Even in this song, she references bleeding out. I bet when she got preggo, they started to talk about marriage and all that stuff. Then the factor that forced them to enter those discussions was suddenly gone, and it forced them to re-examine everything. In any event, the break up can’t really be easy for either. Six years is a long time.
And if Taylor wants a baby, she probably feels like the clock is ticking and feels like she wasted 6 years of her youth on Joe. Not that I’m blaming him. Sometimes shit doesn’t work out.
This sounds very plausible to me Mina_Esq.
Didn’t realize she’d had one, that does put some of her feelings into perspective. Still, going Nazi is just never okay. N E V E R. Especially right now when we are fighting off fascism everywhere.
I didn’t know that had happened. What you say makes a lot of sense to me.
This whole Taylor was pregnant had a miscarriage is just a rumor started by Swifties because one of the extra songs on midnight .
@vanessa they say anything to explain away Taylor’s behavior.
I think one song is enough. It’s not a topic that lands itself to multiple pop hits, nor should it.
If she wanted marriage and he didn’t want that with her, then she’s justified to move on with the speed of light. I only wish she went for a more reasonable guy.
I agree that she is justified. But while she has every right to move on fast, I’m not sure it the best move emotionally for her. And her very problematic choice of man makes that all the more clear.
Swifties were gossiping about how maybe midnight was really a breakup album all suddenly here a vault song that is a about a break up . Where Taylor is the Victim again now the Swifties will attack joe for not wanting to marry Taylor . Now no one will talk about Taylor running around with a racist vile disgusting human being . Also Taylor throw ice spice under the bus saying that it was also all her ideas to collaboration with her and Ice spice people reach out to her . People were calling her out for her obviously using ice spice to cover for her being called out for fake ass ally ship her white feminist.
why are we deciding that Ice Spice has absolutely no ability to speak for herself or any agency as a grown woman? if Taylor was lying about her or she didn’t want to work with Taylor, then I doubt she would. she did a verse, a music video, and performed live with her and just keeps saying that she loves Taylor and Taylor is sweet. 🤷♀️
I don’t know her music well enough to say this definitively, but the lyrics to this song specifically explain why I’ve never bought her POV. I always tell my students that 99% of the time, if they’re writing the broken hearted/angry critique poem, they need to figure out how their speaker is implicated in/by the mess too. Otherwise it sets off the readers’ bullshit detector. I don’t trust anyone who’s always the hero of their story. She presents like someone who read a lot of Plath as a girl, but not as a woman.
Your last sentence is the sickest burn, and absolutely accurate when it comes to TS. I’m going to have to work that into a conversation at some point.
I never thought about Taylor and Plath at the same time, lol. That’s a very interesting observation.
I frequent another gossip site and they covered The Sun’s story of Matty and Taylor possibly moving in together:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/22501285/matty-healy-moves-in-taylor-swift/amp/
In the thread covering this, several people speculated that Taylor may be desperate to get married and/or pregnant because she’s in her 30s and feels like she “wasted 6 years of her life w/ Joe” waiting for him to propose. So, she’s moving too fast with this rebound because of it; ignoring his racist viewpoints. It’s not about Matty, it’s about hitting those “milestones” she’s so desperately wanted.
Even though it’s speculation, I can see that being the case. Taylor has always been a hopeless romantic with unhealthy boundary issues. She falls deep and hard, then crashes when her partner doesn’t feel them same. It’s a recipe for amazing music but not for healthy, functional relationships. Now she may be feeling her biological clock ticking and has shacked up with the first guy who paid her the right kind of attention after not getting what she wanted from her relationship.
I don’t know how this is going to end but the resulting album should be phenomenal.
Taylor also seems to want to be the leader of the pack so it must bother her to see her squad friends and particularly former squad frenemies settling down and “leaving her behind”. She’s the kind of woman who would see that as threatening to her status instead of just adults at various stages of life.
Agreed. I can see this. Unfortunately, a lot of women do this. They see their friends “achieving” those milestones and feel left behind so they shack up with the next guy in a race to catch up. Which leads to them getting involved with someone who’s not a great partner.
Excuse excuse excuse.
I wouldn’t marry her either, she’s unhinged! And a narcissist. She’s obviously loving every moment of attention she’s getting now with Matt Healy, doing all the pap strolls in NY and gushing about how happy she is on stage. She does not give a fig about his reputation. But she will dump him the moment he doesn’t do what she wants or someone better comes along… and then the carousel will spin again lol.
Definitely sounds like a pregnancy loss—my face was gray, air hangs with loss, all I do is bleed…
There was also a time that she put on weight. It all adds up.
There’s another song on her last album that definitely sounds to me like it’s about a miscarriage. “Goodbye goodbye goodbye / you were bigger than the whole sky / you were more than just a short while / I’ve got a lot to pine about I’ve got a lot to live without / I’m never gonna meet what could’ve been, should’ve been, what would’ve been you.”
supposedly this was about her close friend Claire, who had a miscarriage around that time that she publicized. Seemed like a sweet song written for a friend who was going through it
A Great Big World & Christina Aguilera did it better with “Say Something.”
That song was fantastic. You could sub out live and make it about anything you are really passionate about. Like a family member or a long friendship that betrayed you.
Does she have some borderline personality tendencies? All this pedestal and tear down stuff? Or still a teenager developmentally?
She wrote that song recently and released it to push narrative that she’s a victim. Again.
Btw If Joe really didn’t want to marry her, judging by her recent behavior and her hoping on Ratty’s racist dick, no wonder he didn’t want to marry Taylor. Imagine being subject of this emotional abuse and narcissistic behavior day after day as a husband? Yikes
Just like all this miscarriage and list baby talk. I don’t remember anyone speculating that Taylor had a miscarriage until RIGHT now. If her last album had a sing like that then it would’ve been big news. It would be really low for a multimillionaire to lie about that to cover up her simply cheating on her boyfriend.
There has been discussion about it. It wasn’t a single so unless you listen to a whole album you wouldn’t encounter it. As she now claims her song are not biographical no one other than big fans would delve into the ins and outs of her lyrics
Is anybody surprised anymore that all her relationships crashed and burned? Cause like, just looking at this Joe situation alone, the way Taylor is acting, the way she treats Joe, the way she now is parading Matty everywhere like this….could you imagine that any of her exes would have tolerated this bs in a long run on every day basis, with this public circus, with Taylor’s clingy need to be validated 24/7, while her partner must literally walk on egg shells around her, in order to not provoke her outburst? Her emotional blackmail, her use of her unhinged fans against anybody, her obsessive putting a person on a pedestal and then tearing this person to shreds, and total lack of empathy towards anybody as soon as this person doesn’t bend to her will…..
Horrible honestly.
“Bajingo-first” is hilarious journalism.
I noticed a pattern from Taylor – she clearly wants to be in a power couple with somebody, anybody! When she was with Calvin, her team planted those articles how they as a couple outsold Beyonce and Jay Z. With Joe Alwyn her pal Lena Dunham was talking like 2 years ago how Taylor and Joe were titans of the industry (lol). Now with Matty her side clearly plants those article items how she and Matty are that power music couple.
That’s another explanation of why her relationships are…..like this. You can’t build a normal healthy working relationships with anybody if this person first and foremost is just some accessory to you in your power couple make-believe fantasy. Combined with Taylor being just a terrible girlfriend in general due to her character it proves fatal to relationships with any partner.
This strikes me as the truth. Is the timing – well, too well-timed? Yes, of course, but I often wondered whenever there was a story about “will he propose / are they engaged” if it wasn’t her trying to push him in that direction. Clearly, he wouldn’t go there
Good song. Regardless of its origins. Girl can write.
Taylor may need to have a good look in the mirror and ask herself why doesn’t any man want to marry her? It’s not like many of her exes have problems with getting engaged or marrying other women or settling down with other women.