They’re still trying to say that Carole Middleton deserves a ‘royal title,’ you guys

For years now, I’ve “joked” that Carole Middleton is trying to set herself up as some kind of “Queen Mother” figure, pulling the strings to enable Prince William and Kate, and taking a huge role in raising their children. It’s not really a joke, I actually believe that Carole has that “momager” dynamic with Kate and William. Of course, I also believe that William began to distance himself from the Middletons at one point, and the Middletons were clearly thrown to the wolves in 2023, when their business went bankrupt and their house of cards collapsed. Still, the Middletons played it smart and by mid-2024, they were back in society like nothing ever happened. This might be a bridge too far however – someone is trying to say that Carole and Michael Middleton could take their (rightful!!) place at the heart of the monarchy.

Prince William may ‘rewrite the fabric of the monarchy’ to give Kate’s parents a greater role, royal experts have claimed. A new Channel 5 documentary explores the influence that Carole and Michael wield within the ‘inner sanctum’ of the royal family and asks the question: should the Middletons be given titles?

Airing on Saturday, the show explores the idea that Carole and Michael Middleton could counteract the ‘reputational chaos’ inflicted by Andrew.

The Daily Mail’s Sarah Vine said: ‘In the 21st century, royalty is about how you behave. It’s not a given. And if the royal family is anything in this day and age, it’s to set an example. It’s to uphold certain standards and Andrew broke those rules and so he’s no longer there. But it means that a door is open to other people becoming royal through their behaviour.’

And royal commentators believe William could give his in-laws the royal seal of approval while counting on their ‘stability, decency, British values, and sense of humour’ to navigate the crisis surrounding his uncle’s friendship with paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

To make Carole and Michael working royals, William would have to ‘completely rewrite the entire fabric of the monarchy’, said Newsweek’s chief royal correspondent, Jack Royston. ‘But the guy does say he wants change. Anything is possible,’ he added.

‘[The Middletons] just seem to have this aura of kindness, and I think that the Middletons are very much that safety net,’ Ms Vine told Channel 5.

[From The Daily Mail]

Aura of kindness? Tell that to all of the small businesses they failed to pay back. Tell that to all of their creditors who got f–ked over by Carole’s lies. Anyway, it’s been a minute since Middleton HQ pushed this kind of stupid bullsh-t. Scooter King could give his mother-in-law a title! But he won’t. The Middletons should be thanking their lucky stars that they got so much out of the 2024 negotiations – they now have a 150-acre faux-estate in Windsor, they have lowered the bar to the pits of hell when it comes to expectations on Kate’s work schedule, and Carole can attend Ascot and Wimbledon without anyone heckling her or calling her a fraud. Take the win and don’t push it. William’s not going to make Carole into the Baroness of Bucklebury any time soon.


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65 Responses to “They’re still trying to say that Carole Middleton deserves a ‘royal title,’ you guys”

  1. Brassy Rebel says:

    Whoever wrote that for the DM was drunk, right? Prove me wrong. Carole Middleton is Hyacinth Bucket.

  2. Tessa says:

    There are limits to Scooter’s concessions. I doubt she’ll get any sort of title. She was not a Queen and won’t be one. She’s grandmother to a future King. But she never had any royal title. The Spencers were titled aristocrats and Diana’s mother Frances Shand Kydd never clamored for any future title as maternal grandmother of Scoot.

    • DK says:

      Yeah, I’m so confused by this take, especially after all the “slash everybody’s titles! Make it just the king and heir!” articles, not to mention the unhinged “you must remove H&M’s royal titles bc…they are doing a royal tour but it’s not a royal tour and actually it’s going much better than most royal tours” arguments from this week.

      And…if “being kind” is all that’s needed to be royal, um, there are a LOT of kind people throughout the UK, many of whom do actual real good in the world (charity workers, fire fighters, first responders, doctors and nurses, teachers, etc.)

      So if the Carole Middleton level of “kindness” is all that’s required to be royal, the country is full of royals, and W&K will need to watch out because they will be very low on the list!

      • jais says:

        And let’s be real, the slashing everyone’s title thing is all about making sure Meghan, Archie and Lili do not have titles. So let’s excise the titles of the only mixed-race members of the family and then add in some white Middleton titles. It’s wild. But sure, let them do their thing. It’s that or child labor with the Wales kids.

      • IdlesAtCranky says:

        I think this one falls under the ever-expanding category of Throw Every Piece Of Garbage We Can Find At the Wall & Hope Something Sticks!

        Everybody in the “royal” orbit wants to direct attention at ANYTHING other than the Pedophile Formerly Known As Prince Andrew, the Epstein files in general, and how great Harry & Meghan are doing, for themselves & the world.

        So, sure, let’s make Ma & Pa Mid-Level Grifters working “royals.” Why not? They can only raise the tone of the place at this point.

  3. YankeeDoodles says:

    Diana would have seen this woman coming a mile away. It’s the one thing she & Camilla would have agreed on.

    • Nic919 says:

      The Middletons only won their campaign because William didn’t have a mother figure and Carole was savvy enough to step in to that role.

      If Diana was around, then Kate would have been not much more than a university fling. Because he basically treated like that for years anyway.

      It was when Carole got involved that they got back together after the many break ups.

      • Tessa says:

        William may not have even gone to St. Andrews. He may have gone to Cambridge or another University. Carole I think “guilt tripped” William into settling down with Kate. If Isabella Calthorpe or Jecca had wanted to be with William, Keen would have been history at any rate.

      • Nic919 says:

        William might have gone elsewhere but not Cambridge or Oxford. He’s not smart enough for that and those universities don’t seem to let rich kids in if they aren’t smart enough.

    • BR says:

      If that Diana was alive I think Harry and William would have been married with other aristocrats. I always thought there’s some kind of unspoken agreement amongst the real aristocrats to not marry into the Windsors line of ascension for a couple of generations. The most renowned and globally adored British Aristocrat that was Diana was thrown to the wolves by the The Firm. They all remember that.

  4. Hypocrisy says:

    With all the chaos and crimes going on within the BRF here come the middleton’s looking to be the Duke and Duchess of Bankruptcy🤨, bless their little black hearts.

    • Nic919 says:

      As their daughter visibly shrinks before our eyes.

      They make Kris Jenner look like an earth mother with their mercenary approach. I can’t see Kris letting any of her kids stay at a hospital for weeks without one visit.

    • Angelica Schuyler says:

      I was thinking along similar lines: “Announcing Michael and Carole Middleton – The Duke and Dutchess of Insolvency “

  5. Mslove says:

    Peg is a fool and easy to manipulate. That said, I can’t see the Middletons getting an earldom like Carol wants, but I bet the Middletons get to stand on the balcony, for sure. And Peg will let Carole do bread-and-butter events between vacations.

    • luna says:

      Pero el balcón sólo es para la realeza trabajadora, al menos ésas fueron las nuevas reglas para los Sussex

      • Mslove says:

        Chuck & Peg can’t have a biracial Duchess standing on the sacred balcony, of course. They’re much more comfortable with white grifters.

  6. Nic919 says:

    William giving Carole a title for birthing Kate and leading the campaign for an engagement ring is not going to play well with the general public.

    Besides Kate is not a fully functioning adult and looks a mess so it’s not really evidence that Carole and Mike did a great job parenting. They sold off their daughter for access to the elite and have tried to jam their other kids in for freebies too.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Giving her family titles and an active role in the RF would NOT be well received by the public – the RF’s rep is already in the gutter and Kate is not that popular. Plus people see the Middletons for what they are – Carole would do well to stop these kinds of stories but she won’t, the Mids have always over played their hand and don’t know when to quit.

      • Vine, the Viper, makes absolutely no sense anyway. Nothing she says is accurate. She says royalty is about how you behave and uphold certain standards and it’s not a given. What is she smoking? It’s literally a given, provided you pop out of the right vagina. So unless William is planning to divorce Kate and marry MaMidds, Carole (with an E) and hubby will never be “royal.”

        And royals have been behaving badly for their entire existence. That’s why they have the money and power they have. The queen was hiding money in off-shore accounts and demanding a higher income when citizens were starving and going without heat. Andrew, we know what he’s been up to. Charles was BFFs with a pedo, and he and Camzilla’s behavior toward Diana and Meghan, enough said. William is a raging ball of anger who’s behavior would make our eyes bleed if we knew.

        People don’t become royal through good behavior and they don’t lose their royal status through bad behavior, or the royal family would have been dissolved centuries ago.

        It’s also hilarious that she claims the Middletons are providing ‘stability, decency, British values, and sense of humour’. Sure, Jan.

      • And, yes, you’re right that this is coming straight from MaMidds. I don’t think this is something being floated by Scooter or the family as a whole because they need someone to pick up the slack. She’s been dropping these hints, like anvils, since before the Wailses’ wedding.

  7. Oh yes the Lord and Lady of Gold Digging and Poor Business Practices. They will lord and lady it in a little fife in east bum fuck England complete with a castle ruin and twenty sheep that haven’t been shorn in years.

  8. CJW says:

    I seriously thought that pic was of Jennifer Aniston

  9. GMHQ says:

    That royal in laws thing worked so well in the past, like with Anne Boelyn’s folks.

  10. LauraD says:

    Now we know why William is so eager for Charles to take away Harry’s title(s). Imagine the furore if this bankrupt opportunist is given a title just after William takes Harry’s away. It will be carnage!

    • Tessa says:

      I think it will backfire on Scooter if he even tries to take titles. Charlotte and Louis may have their titles removed as well.

  11. Jais says:

    Okay, this is coming from Sarah Vine, whose husband, Michael Gove, famously cheated and left her. I think she has a fair guess of what possibly goes on bts and has always had a lot of sympathy towards Kate. No surprise that she’s pushing the midds forward even if it’s making me laugh. Shall we add James and pippa in too? Vine also wrote the infamous DM headline about having “niggling” doubts about Meghan. So yeah, I’m sure she’s all about adding some qwhite rights folks.

  12. Dee(2) says:

    If this is coming from Carole this is wild, and a key indicator that even with all that she has gotten from her machinations it’s still not enough.

    Your grandson will be the king of England, your daughter will be Queen consort of England, you are rubbing shoulders with people that you never would have interacted with by any measure of imagination, and you skated Scott free on ruining the lives of several small business owners.

    You get to travel all over the world, you get to stay on multiple nice estates, and you don’t pay for anything. Yet you’re still gunning for more for yourself, when it seems like your daughter is going to fade away into an ephemeral mist at any moment. Just WILD behavior.

  13. Will-not says:

    Will-not visibly cringes when keener touches him and subconsciously leans away from her while either making a fist or covering his little will-not. Doubtful he thinks highly of her parents if he loathes their honeytrap to the point he cannot smile and pose naturally in photos. It would be entertaining if Will-not did gave the Middleton’s a title because the rota is salivating to target everyone in the royals orbit. Giving them a title would unleash questions about the Middletons shady finances and how Will-not was targeted by his stalker and her grasping family. They may not be specifically Epstein-connected, but their methods, lifestyle and finances aren’t up to snuff, either. The palaces would have known full well exactly what the Middletons were up to the second Keener began popping up in his orbit because a complete threat accessment would have been done on the entire Middleton clan, including shady Uncle Gary. Will-not will eventually blame QE and Charles for his marital woes and will turn on the Middletons like he did his own brother.

  14. Jay says:

    Honestly, Will might not have much of a choice in the matter. The elderly royals who still do double or triple his and Kate’s numbers of engagements are vanishing. The Wales certainly aren’t going to suddenly carry that burden.

    Carole is tacky and superficial, yes, but she is a hustler. Give her a title and a dress budget and she’ll show up to cut ribbons and open fetes all across the UK. She loves showing up to Wimbledon and Kate’s Christmas concert, she’d probably be in her element playing Lady of the Manor/Queen Mum.

    Why not? If William believes he can take away his uncle and brother’s titles because they displease him, he can also give them out on a whim if he so chooses.

    • Lady Esther says:

      I think you’ve got something here…Put this article where Being Nice Is Enough To Be Royal together with the “working royals get titles regardless of birth” and it starts sounding like someone is testing the waters to make the Middletons more than just royal-adjacent (with a bonus “Take that, Camilla and your stupid son can kiss any hope of a title goodbye”)

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        “working royals get titles regardless of birth”…”Being Nice is enough to be Royal”…

        If the magic blood of royalty isn’t the point, then there is no point to the monarchy. Rota is either testing the Republican waters with this stuff, or they’re not realizing that they’re actually making the case to end the monarchy in the UK.

        If the monarchy fails, does that mean the Act of Union is dead and Scotland is free?

    • Tessa says:

      I somehow don’t think all the public will consider her Queen Mum. Elizabeth’s mother was an actual Queen consort before she became Queen Mum. Carole does not have the same qualifications.

      • BeanieBean says:

        And of course the late Queen Mum was mother of the reigning monarch, not the mother-in-law of the reigning monarch.

    • sunniside up says:

      It would devalue everyone else’s titles.

  15. Mary grace says:

    I think William will push the Middletons into the royal family and possibly give them a role or title when he’s king.William has no boundaries and when he’s king he’ll do exactly as he pleases.And it’s been said before Carol has huge influence over Billy idle

    • Tessa says:

      There may be some negativity in William towards Carole , he is not exactly enchanted with Keen now although he wants the “family man” image.

    • Mslove says:

      Peg can say that his delicate wife is still recovering from cancer, and needs her mum to help out with the bread and butter events. Then, Peg can do as he pleases, while Keen & Carole do the work. After a few weeks, Keen will stop working altogether, and Saint Carole will be the savior of the monarchy, the true power behind the throne. Lolz.

  16. kelleybelle says:

    For doing what exactly? For being a modern version of Thomas Bolelyn (pushing your daughters into the King’s bed)? A boozing leaker to the press to prop Kate and sully Meghan? For her sleazy relationship with Tominey? I could go on …

  17. Tessa says:

    With his sister a “Queen Mother” figure, she may bring Uncle Gary to some of the events. Not a great look for the Middletons.

  18. Me at home says:

    This feels a bit like rage bait? Maybe it’s resting the waters, but maybe it’s also “don’t look at Andrew, look at the grasping Middletons and picture drug dealer Senior Gary de Casa Bang Bang on the balcony!

    Btw, could Uncle Gary have an Epstein problem?

  19. Harla says:

    “But it means that a door is open to other people becoming royal through their behaviour.’” Omg!! These people, who have an entire class system based on Hereditary privilege, have no idea how it actually works???

    • TheWigletOfWails says:

      Oh but they do, they’re trying to stick it to harry and Meghan in a way. But as prince philip said, the monarchy’s most ardent supporters will be the ones to bring about its downfall. If anyone can suddenly be royal, then Egg and co can be deposed and the public can choose who they want as royals.

  20. Kittenmom says:

    What happened to that slimmed down monarchy, small r royal crap?

  21. Someone pinched my user name says:

    Is UG still with his latest wife? I think Companies House shows she’s resigned? Wonder what the story is there, would she do a book?

  22. Amy Bee says:

    I would love to see them to do this because the public backlash is going to be ferocious. How is the Royal Family going to give in laws titles but strip actual Family members of theirs?

  23. TheWigletOfWails says:

    And how will this go down with the actual aristocrats? They already don’t respect duchess doors to manual and her ilk.

  24. QuiteContrary says:

    Yes! Give Uncle Gary a title, too! He’ll fit right in with the English nobility and their misbegotten morality.

  25. B says:

    Kitty can’t even take her rightful place in that monarchy lol let alone her family.

  26. 992234177 says:

    Just to say that George VI gave his father in law, the Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne a new earldom in 1937, the earldom of Strathmore, so it could happen.

    • Bqm says:

      His FIL was already an Earl, of a long standing peerage, not untitled like the Midds. He was created 1st Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne, a United Kingdom peerage, even though he had been the 14th Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne, which was a Scottish title, since he inherited in 1904. This change allowed him to sit in the House of Lords as an earl (because members of the peerage of Scotland did not automatically sit in the HOL, he had previously sat only as a baron through the Barony of Bowes created for his father).

  27. Tessa says:

    Carole is not in the same league as the queen mother Elizabeth’s father.

    • Iolanthe says:

      So all these hard-core royalists who have been slinging mud at Meghan are ok with raising white trash grifters to aristocracy ? I should have thought only pedigree, blue blood and royal connections were respected by derangers , which would automatically exclude people like that redneck who married Zara , Kate , Sophie and whoever married Andrews daughters . Much as I hate to say it , Camilla belonged to the right circles , as did the Queen Mother and Fergie. Enough already. This is not about who gets a tiara ..these royalists are racists.

  28. paintybox says:

    There’s a mound of spaghetti on the floor by this wall.

  29. Jem church says:

    Love, love, love that photo of Baroness of Bucketshire, chugging that malbec

  30. tamsin says:

    Wouldn’t Carol simply be the mother of the queen consort? The Queen Mother was the mother of a queen regnant and a queen consort. Otherwise, she could still have been Queen Elizabeth after George the VI’s death, yes? The fact that she had the same name as her daughter probably was a factor. That way they wouldn’t have to say Queen Elizabeth II every time they were talking about the reigning queen to differentiate from her mother who was a queen consort. The fact that King is a higher title than Queen is so chauvinistic. To make things equal, I think it would be great if all wives of kings became princesses in their own right, just like now they make husbands of queens princes.

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