You know how Robert Pattinson left LA on Sunday? We covered those photos yesterday – after spending some time with his girlfriend Kristen Stewart in LA, Sparkles is back on the road, probably working on another film. Kristen, meanwhile, doesn’t have a lot going on career-wise. So she was sitting around, bored and stoned, and she might have called her ex-lover Rupert Sanders right after Rob left town. I’m not even joking.

GO HERE or HERE to see the sketchy X17 photos – they show Kristen with some girlfriends outside of Malo Taqueria (a Mexican restaurant), and a black Acura pulls up right in front of Kristen. The driver looks JUST LIKE Rupert, and Rupert owns a black Acura. Kristen gets into the car. And hopefully they got a hotel room or something, instead of doing it in the back of the Acura or whatever.

There are some questions as to when these photos were taken, but I guess X17 is claiming that they were taken late Sunday night. So if this is Rupert in the photos, that means Kristen said goodbye to Rob and then just a few hours later, she was in Rupert’s arms and she was letting him Mini-Cooper her in the Acura. Girl… WTF? If she gets caught cheating on Rob AGAIN, that really will be SO DAMAGING. It will damage her career, it will damage her image and for the love of God, I hope it will be enough to make Rob finally dump her for good.

Fun fact: Robert Pattinson hosted Kristen’s most recent birthday party at this same restaurant. YIKES.

UPDATE: OMG!!!!!!!!!!! I love all of the TWIHARD PROOF-ing going on in the comments. As it turns out, the Twihards are doing their due diligence on these photos, and Gossip Cop has “debunked” the story (although I don’t think GC’s debunking makes much sense, but whatever). I must remember to go to the Twihard Laboratory to bring you the most untainted DNA evidence of this story. It might not be Rupert Sanders in the photos. But really… this is just FUNNY.

Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet and WENN.

Ever since Liberty Ross filed for divorce, the tabloids have been wondering if Rupert Sanders is still in contact with Kristen Stewart. I would argue that Rupert and Kristen probably stayed in contact for a while after their affair was revealed – they seemed to be coordinating statements and stories, and both stuck to the whole “no penetration” story (which was hilarious). Now that Rupert is officially a single dude and now that Kristen may be in some kind of break-up holding pattern with Robert Pattinson, what’s keeping them from being together? Well, according to Radar, K-Stew is totally over Rupert. Totally.

Kristen Stewart may look like she’s in need of comforting — hobbling on crutches at the Oscars — but she’s making it clear that she doesn’t want any from Rupert Sanders!

Since Sander’s scorned wife, British model Liberty Ross confirmed her plan to divorce her cheating spouse, the Snow White and the Huntsman director has been reaching out to the Twilight beauty via text and email, a source tells RadarOnline.com exclusively.

However, the 22-year-old actress, whose own relationship with Robert Pattinson is up in the air while he’s filming in Australia, has ignored all of the filmmakers’ advances.

“Rupert’s reached out to Kristen, but she doesn’t want anything to do with him,” the source tells Radar. “He texted her a number of times after Liberty filed for divorce, however Kristen didn’t respond. In truth, she regrets ever getting involved with Rupert, because of how much it hurt Robert and the amount of public backlash she was subjected to.

“Kristen doesn’t really know what’s going on with her and Robert at the moment, and she’s been left in limbo. Ideally, she would like things to go back to how they once were, but that’s proving a lot more difficult than she imagined. But when it comes to Rupert, that ship has sailed,” the source reveals.

[From Radar]

Kristen to Rupert: you were a shamef—k and nothing else. Except she won’t even admit that she slept with him. I mean, I know what she’s feeling, and it is “shame”. I’ve got some dudes in my past that I’m like, “Ugh, never again.” I would imagine that’s how Kristen feels. Besides, if she and Rob really are done (fingers crossed), she’s got to be looking for some kind of boyfriend upgrade. Someone interesting and “deep”. I’ll just say it: James Franco. They should totally date. They can be hardcore artistes together.

Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.

Just before Liberty Ross filed for divorce on Friday, Love Magazine released their new photo shoot and interview with her. The Love Mag photo is NSFW – you can see it here if you want. She’s posing without any clothes, so go ahead and clutch your pearls. I think it’s a beautiful image, though – sexy and interesting, and it seems a little bit like “advertising”. As in, what my mom always says about scantily-clad women – “they’re advertising.” In the interview – clearly done before Liberty filed for divorce – she says, “I moved to L.A. with my husband Rupert because I felt it was time for him to have his turn. We both like it there and we were both established in what we did, but it felt like things could only excel for him in film in America. I wanted to have children and change my life in that way too. I’m glad I did it; I don’t have any regrets.” She doesn’t have any regrets… but now she’s moving on. I get that.

So, in the post-divorce-filing analysis, “sources” are coming out to talk about Liberty’s state of mind. A “friend”/source tells Hollywood Life: “Liberty did all she could to try and save the marriage, but in the end she thought it would be best to walk away… They just couldn’t see eye to eye. Of course she is heartbroken, but the trust between them was completely destroyed and Liberty was humiliated. Liberty is a strong woman and will be just fine. Rupert is not taking it well at all. I can only imagine how Kristen feels — that her actions contributed to the break-up of a family.” I would hope that Kristen feels like a trampire. It’s not slut-shaming when someone should actually be ashamed of what they had done. And yes, Rupert is such a sleazy piece of work. Ugh. And here’s Us Weekly’s post-game analysis:

After one of the most trying (and public) years of her life, Liberty Ross is ready to liberate herself from husband Rupert Sanders. As revealed on Friday Jan. 25, the British model, 34, filed for divorce from the director, 41, after ten years of marriage and two kids (Skyla, 7, and Tennyson, 5).

The move (Ross asks for joint custody of the kids, spousal support and attorney’s fees) isn’t exactly shocking: Despite several amicable meet ups with the kids, the twosome had appeared to be mostly estranged ever since Sanders was caught (in exclusive Us Weekly photos) having a midsummer fling with Kristen Stewart, the 22-year-old star of his Hollywood blockbuster Snow White and the Huntsman.

“This was a long time coming,” one source tells Us Weekly, explaining that, in the aftermath of the shocking tryst, Sanders “did want to try to repair the relationship and didn’t want a divorce.”

Ross, who picked up her life and career in London to move with her husband to Hollywood a couple years ago, “was more than a little upset,” adds a second insider. “They gave it a shot for the kids, [but] she was just so angry . . .she’s the kind of person who wouldn’t really ever get over it.”

The stunning brunette, who walked in Alexander Wang’s NYC Fashion Show last fall, hinted at changes to come in a confessional video series for the designer. “[This year was] the end of some things and the beginning of something else,” she continued. “Beginnings and endings are always really exciting.”

By contrast, in the wake of her betrayal (and a very public apology) Stewart mended things with her longtime love Robert Pattinsonl; although the British hunk is now filming in Australia, the Twilight costars were most recently spotted together at a private Golden Globes afterparty in Hollywood Jan. 13.

[From Us Weekly]

Sources also note that Liberty seemed to “take over” the parenting responsibilities of her two children, Skyla and Tennyson, and that Rupert didn’t seem to be on her mind at all lately. A few weeks ago – just after the Globes – I even talked about how Liberty had come out to the post-Globes parties, and there were reports that she had already begun to date music executive Jimmy Iovine (who is super-old and really rich). Plus, I really do think that she’s going to go back to modeling and stuff – as she should. She’s strikingly beautiful. Liberty will be fine, y’all.

Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame/Flynet and Pacific Coast News.

July 24th and July 25th 2012 was when the Twihard World turned upside down. It began late on July 24th… Us Weekly had a cover story (with photo evidence) about Kristen Stewart’s affair with her married Snow White and the Huntsman director Rupert Sanders, and Us Weekly was going to drop the story the next day. Kristen’s PR people issued a statement to People Magazine confirming the affair. Then on the 25th, Wednesday, all hell broke loose when Us Weekly’s detailed report about the affair was released, and Rupert Sanders and Kristen both released separate (but oddly similar-sounding) statements admitting the “momentary indiscretion” and begging their partners to forgive them.

Skip ahead exactly SIX MONTHS. Robert Pattinson seemed to forgive Kristen after several weeks apart, although (to me) they still don’t seem that strong, and if they’re not over right now, I suspect they will be within the next few months. And Liberty Ross and Rupert tried to work it out too, seemingly trying marriage counseling. Still, Liberty was reportedly consulting with a divorce lawyer, perhaps exploring her options and enjoying the speculation about her possible future without Rupert. Well, Liberty decided to go for it.

Liberty Ross has filed for divorce from her cheating hubby Rupert Sanders … TMZ has learned.

Ross just filed her paperwork in L.A. County Superior Court. She’s asking for joint custody of their 2 children — ages 5 and 7.

Ross, who is repped by disso-queen Laura Wasser, is also asking for spousal support, as well as attorney’s fees.

Sanders, who is repped by Lance Spiegel, also filed his response to the divorce petition. He’s also requesting joint custody. He is not asking for spousal support. As for attorney’s fees, he wants to share the costs with Liberty.

Sanders famously cheated on Ross … with Kristen Stewart, whom he was directing in “Snow White and the Huntsman.”

As we first reported … Ross and Sanders went to a shrink a number of times trying to work out their problems, but it was not meant to be.

[From TMZ]

Now, I don’t think this is going to be “epic” in the sense that a lot of dirt is going to come out about Rupert or about his affair with Kristen, although I have always believed that both Rupert and Kristen were lying their asses off about just how intense and sexual their affair was. Like, Kristen wouldn’t even say that Rupert’s P was ever in the trampire V. So, from a gossip standpoint, I think this is as good as it’s going to get. Of course, it will be fun to see how Liberty re-brands herself post-Rupert. I think that’s what she’s been doing for the past six months – trying to figure out her next steps, seeing what opportunities were out there. She’s going to be doing more fashion stuff and she’ll be dating some high-profile men, I’m sure. Anyway, I’m happy for her. I’m glad that she dumped Rupert for good, and I think it’s smart that she left the impression that she spent some time trying to work through it.

Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame/Flynet.

I’ve been wanting to use these Liberty Ross photos all week! I’m glad I finally have an excuse. Liberty was the InStyle And Warner Bros. Golden Globe After Party on Sunday night, and she oddly posed with Thandie Newton on the red carpet – are they friends? Weird. I think Liberty looks really good here, and it followed her appearance at the Alberta Ferretti party over the weekend too – so Liberty was going solo to two high-profile Golden Globes Weekend events? What does that mean?!!? Does it mean that Liberty and her Lip-Biter-humping husband Rupert Sanders are over, just like Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart are OVER?! OMG. Well, Page Six says Liberty is still exploring her (Dong) Options.

Liberty Ross seems to be distancing herself from her director husband, Rupert Sanders, following his cheating scandal with Kristen Stewart — and is spending time with music mogul Jimmy Iovine. Sources exclusively tell us the British-born model has become “close to Jimmy,” the head of Interscope-Geffen and co-owner of the phenomenally successful Beats by Dr. Dre franchise.

One source tells Page Six, “They were recently introduced by a mutual friend in Los Angeles. It’s early days, and there’s no indication anything has happened, but there is a lot of attraction between them.”

Iovine and Ross are believed to have shared a number of meetings in recent weeks, and were spotted hanging out together at the Golden Globes after-parties Sunday night.

Another source tells us, “She’s been through a lot with Rupert, but Liberty’s main concern has always been her children. She’ll do what is best for them.”

“Snow White and the Huntsman” director Sanders was caught in a steamy clinch with Stewart in LA last July. The scandal led to a brief split, followed by a reconciliation between Stewart and Robert Pattinson. Ross, who played Stewart’s mother in the movie, has largely remained silent about the affair.

Friends previously told us Ross and Sanders, who have a daughter, Skyla, 7, and a son, Tennyson, 5, have been having marriage counseling, and he has been asking for forgiveness.

In a recent video for fashion designer Alexander Wang, Liberty said: “We’re all on journeys, we’re all given lessons. Sometimes when things seem really bad, you have to be able to see the good and learn from it and move forward as graciously as possible. This year marked the end of some things and the beginning of something else. Beginnings and endings are always really exciting.”

Reps for Ross and Iovine, who split with his former model wife, Vicki Iovine, in 2009, didn’t get back to us last night.

[From Page Six]

For some reason, I had the idea that “Jimmy Iovine” was some old, Harvey-Weinstein-looking dude, but he’s not – I’ve included a photo of him below. He looks like… well, he looks like a middle-aged dude trying to look 33… wait, let me look it up. HOLY CRAP HE’S 59 YEARS OLD. Damn, he looks really good for his age. So… it could be WAY worse. And if he really is a “mogul” (he is), than it’s probably a good catch for Liberty. Chica has options. And it’s good that she’s reminding Rupert that she’s got options too.

Photos courtesy of Daniel Tanner/WENN.com.

Pretty much as soon as Kristen Stewart and Rupert Sanders were photographed giving it to each other in a Mini Cooper, there have been questions about a possible/probably sequel to Snow White and the Huntsman, the film which probably began Rupert and Kristen’s affair. For a while the rumors seemed to be “Rupert is still very much involved in a possible sequel, but Kristen is not.” And then it seemed like Rupert would be out as director, but staying on as a producer, while Kristen would star. And now it seems like Rupert is totally out of the project and Kristen is definitely going to sign on:

As Kristen Stewart sulks down the red carpet promoting the final movie in the Twilight series, the actress has signed on to reprise her role in Snow White and the Huntsman, but director Rupert Sanders, who was caught making out with K-Stew in her car earlier this year, won’t be a part of the project, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

“The script has already been written and production will begin late next year,” a source close to the situation tells Radar. “However, Rupert Sanders definitely won’t be a part of the project. Rupert didn’t want to be a part of it to begin with because he is desperately still trying to save his marriage. The search is still on for a new director.”

As we previously reported, Stewart released a statement shortly after news broke of her affair with Sanders insisting that it was a “momentary indiscretion” but there were several reports that the affair lasted for “months.”

The affair resulted in a dramatic bust-up of Stewart’s romance with her Twilight costar Robert Pattison, but after months apart, the pair has reconciled.

Meanwhile, Kristen is panicking about her career prospects following filming of Snow White.

“Kristen is extremely concerned about her acting career,” the insider says. “Other than the Snow White sequel she isn’t attached to any other projects. There are scripts coming in, but not as many good ones as she would like. It’s distressing to Kristen that Rob is attached to four separate movies over the next year-and-a-half. Even her Twilight co-stars, Taylor Lautner and Ashley Greene, are more in demand than ever, with both committed to two different movies each. Kristen just hopes that that the fallout over her relationship with Rupert doesn’t hurt her career.”

[From Radar]

Oooh, that’s a lot to analyze! First, this is Radar, not Deadline, so the industry side of this story might be BS. That being said, I would believe that the studio would put more value on Kristen as the star than on Rupert Sanders as a director or producer. Thus, the studio would push Rupert out and do everything to get Kristen signed on.

Second thing: Kristen’s “panic” about not getting work. Remember immediately following the cheating scandal where it seemed like every “insider” was like “Oh, this will probably end up helping her career in the long run.” I doubted it then and I doubt it now. Kristen and her team want to put her out there like some kind of Angelina Jolie – a sexy, man-stealing bombshell who doesn’t give a f—k. The problem is that Angelina only developed that image after she had really proven herself a talented actress, a full-blown movie star and a humanitarian to boot. While I’m keeping my eye on the Jolie-fication of Kristen Stewart, I think K-Stew falls flat most of the time, and she still seems like the perpetually grumpy, eye-rolling, affected lip-biter we’ve all become well acquainted with previously. She’s not a convincing actress in films or in real life, and I think Hollywood is largely giving her a big “meh”. And that’s why Kristen sounds like she’s SO desperate to work – because she is.

Photos courtesy of WENN.

Oooo. Liberty Ross and her estranged (?) husband Rupert Sanders reunited last night for Halloween. They both dressed up in costume and took their kids trick-or-treating, then they gave out candy to the neighborhood kids too, at least according to The Mail, who claims that “Sanders couldn’t keep his hands off his wife, giving her a huge hug as they sat on their porch handing out candy after their walk.” Hunh.

As you can see, Liberty went for more of a Kardashian Halloween angle in a skin-tight, black-condom-looking latex catsuit. Literally, it was a latex cat costume with an attached tail and everything. So, she was either a black cat (in a condom) or some version of Catwoman, I guess. The catsuit doesn’t leave much to the imagination, and I bet Hobo Rupert Sanders was grateful he was wearing such baggy pants. Did I ever tell you guys about the time I dress up as Bjork for Halloween and I ended up wearing skin-tight pleather pants? It was such a disaster, although I did get some action that night… with James Bond maybe? Anyway, after that night I learned that Halloween and leather/pleather/latex do not mix.

It’s nice to see Rupert and Liberty putting out a united front for their kids for Halloween. Judging from her quotes in that NYFW video (go here to see it), I kind of thought that she had already made up her mind to “move on” from Rupert, but I think they’re still seeing a marriage counselor or something. I wonder if Rupert is still sticking with his “momentary indiscretion” story. I also wonder if Rupert has been to the Four Seasons recently.

Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.

In The Great Mini-Coopering Twihard Meltdown 2012 story of the year, some details and questions have been left by the wayside. When the scandal first broke in late July, it was Us Weekly who broke the story by publishing an extensive paparazzo shoot of Rupert Sanders and Kristen Stewart looking and being loved up all over LA. The process story behind it was that Us Weekly’s editors had gotten a juicy tip that Kristen was fooling around on Robert Pattinson, so Us Weekly hired a paparazzo to basically follow Kristen around for a week, with Us Weekly picking up the tab for a flat-rate cost of the paparazzo, then buying the scandalous photos exclusively. But here’s the real question: who gave Us Weekly’s editors the tip? It would have had to be someone very close to the situation, right? Well, Hollywood Life (I know, I know) has a theory! What if Rupert’s wife Liberty Ross was the leaker?

Liberty Ross was disgusted to find out that her husband Rupert Sanders was cheating on her with Kristen Stewart, but now new details are coming out about how she potentially shamed her husband in public once she found out!

Liberty, 34, may have used a friend to catch Rupert, 41, and Kristen, 22, in the act, HollywoodLife.com learned EXCLUSIVELY from a source close to the situation.

“Liberty had her friend tip off the photo agency that Rupert was having an affair with Kristen,” our source said. “Liberty wanted Rupert to get caught in the act so he would be humiliated. Liberty told a friend in London that she heard rumors that her husband was having an affair with Kristen. She knew her friend was going to leak the info to a photo agency. Liberty wanted Rupert and Kristen to be caught in public because she wanted him to be humiliated!”

[From Hollywood Life]

As many people have pointed out, it does seem like Liberty knew Rupert was fooling around before the Mini Coopering photos came out. She could have just suspected it, or Rupert might have confessed his “momentary indiscretion” weeks beforehand. So, I guess this is possible. Liberty told a friend she knew to be a gossip, and Liberty wanted her husband and his mistress to be publicly shamed. It makes some kind of sense.

Meanwhile, Rupert Sanders still has a career. Snow White and the Huntsman has made $400 million, so Hollywood know wants Rupert for all kinds of projects. First up for Rupert (according to Deadline) is The Juliet, a “sci-fi flick based on a short story by Alfred Bester.” Rupert is also allegedly in talks to do another Van Helsing remake, this time with Tom Cruise. Will Tommy and Rupe end up together in Xenu’s embrace?

Photos courtesy of WENN.

As we heard last week, Kristen Stewart had to do some emotional gymnastics to convince Robert Pattinson to get back together with her. She had to assure him over and over that Rupert Sanders never, ever, EVER put his p in her v, because full-on penetration makes the sparkly angels weep, apparently. Kristen also had to convince Sparkles that he could trust her, that her life was an open book (to him), and as such, she gave him the password to her email account so that he could see for himself that there were no love emails from Rupert with the subject heading “I’m so glad you let me have sex with you, my lover.” Unfortunately, Robert might not have thought to check Kristen’s phone? Because she might still be texting Rupert Sanders.

Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson may have reconciled, but the Twilight actress is reportedly still texting Rupert Sanders on the side. Rob and Kristen are taking their reconciliation slowly, as Rob is allegedly nervous that he still can’t trust Kristen.

“Rob has agreed to give it another go. He’s still very cautious, and he and Kristen have signed on for couple’s therapy. They’re both really hoping that this will all end with happily ever after,” an insider tells OK! magazine.

“Kristen has given Rob passwords to her voicemail and e-mail account to prove she has nothing to hide and will do anything to get his trust back,” a report from Radar Online says.

Ironically, Kristen, 22, did not provide access to her text messages. And let’s not forget that text messages can be erased.

“Kristen is saying all the right things to Rob, but she’s not being totally honest with him. Rob made her promise to stop talking to Rupert, and she’s broken that promise already. Kristen justifies it because, technically, she’s not actually talking to him, so she feels like she’s still keeping her word,” the source adds.

Kristen and Rupert spent a lot of time together on the set of Snow White and the Huntsman. Beyond their affair, a friendship likely formed.

“Kristen swears she’s only keeping in touch with Rupert because she feels sorry for him. His wife, Liberty Ross, has totally turned her back on him, and Kristen feels somewhat responsible for that. She doesn’t want to hurt Rob, but she doesn’t see the harm in exchanging text messages with Rupert so that he doesn’t feel so abandoned.”

[From Hollywood Life]

OF COURSE NOT, cry the Twihards. Of course Kristen and Rupert aren’t in collusion. That’s why they issued similar-sounding statements when photos of their affair broke. That’s why both are keeping strong with their “momentary indiscretion” line. Of course they aren’t speaking, they aren’t texting, they aren’t emailing, ever, ever, EVER. Because those dirty-naughty feelings that you have when you’re being unfaithful to your partner just DIE, on the spot, instantly. Because Rupert never got near Kristen’s v. Ever. Because they aren’t speaking anymore. Because Kristen is not in any way self-destructive and of course she doesn’t have doubts about her amazing and perfect relationship with Robert Pattinson. And because this reconciliation isn’t about promoting the last film in their franchise.

Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.

I have a serious question: just how many interviews did Rupert Sanders and Kristen Stewart give just before their affair was discovered? Because it feels like a lot. Because it feels like every single week since the affair became public, we’ve had some new interview with either of them in which they say something that is laughable, strange, ironic, crazy or sketchy, given what we now know about them. With that in mind, here’s what Ol’ Rupert (“The Predator” to Twihards) had to say about his beloved Lip-Biting Lover:

When news broke that Rupert Sanders had a tryst with Kristen Stewart, cheating on his model wife Liberty Ross, many wondered what would draw Rupert away from his gorgeous wife. As a interview detailing his first impression of Kristen, given before word of the affair was out, has just been released, we might understand his decision a little more.

Rupert tells Vogue UK, of his first impression, “She’d burnt her lower pelvis area, quite low down. She was bandaging a bad burn there, in her very tight jeans, with a Camel clamped between her teeth. That was my very first image of her.”

Beyond the very provocative first meeting, he says, “She’s got this masculine edge. She’s like this beautiful tomboy or something. What surprised me most when I met Kristen was how unlike the character of Bella Swan she was in real life.”

“She was so tough, so grown up. She was exactly the modern badass version of Snow White that I was looking for. I wanted that young, spirited, rebellious warrior, and she epitomized all of that,” he adds.

Perhaps giving a warning that Sanders wanted more than just a professional relationship he compared Kristen and his wife Liberty together, with the 22 year-old winning out as “royalty” in comparison – OUCH! He went on: “There’s a look they share. Kristen is almost like royalty the way she understands what she has to do, in the way that she has to learn to compartmentalize… Well, Lib’s quite ‘regal’ or something as well.”

[From Hollywood Life and Entertainmentwise]

To be fair to Team Kristen’s self-perpetuating victimization scheme, Rupert DOES sound like he was kind of infatuated with Kristen, and if you told me he made the first move, I would believe you. But it’s still not enough to make me think that he’s a predator or that Kristen is a victim of anything other than her own bad attitude and self-satisfaction.

Yesterday, we discussed how Us Weekly and People Mag were both in agreement about ROBSTEN being utterly UNBROKEN. Well, OK! Mag (via Hollywood Life) has a funny story about Kristen being so devastated in the wake of The Mini-Coopering that she sought therapy. A source claims, “As for Kristen, this is far and away the most devastating thing that’s ever happened to her. She’s getting counseling, but she feels like the only thing that would make her happy would be if Rob would take her back.” The source also claims that Summit is so eager for Kristen and Robert to reunite that they’ve offered to pay for couple’s counseling. Ha. It looks like Summit got its way, though – there have been reports of THREE secret meetings between Kristen and Rob.

Photos courtesy of WENN.