Shania Twain calls marrying her husband’s mistress’s ex husband ‘beautifully twisted’

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Shania Twain went through heartbreak in early 2008 when she realized that her husband of her 14 years, Robert ‘Mutt’ Lange, was cheating on her with his married secretary, whom Shania considered one of her closest friends. Shania and Mutt had been living in Switzerland for eight years at that time and I imagine it was somewhat isolating for her. (I lived in Switzerland for a couple of years right around that time so maybe I’m projecting.) We know about the affair because someone (Shania) dished details to People Magazine, and gave them personal photos of Shania with the secretary/estate manager. That was around May of 2008. Then, by December, Shania was seen out with the secretary’s estranged/ex husband, who was in the same boat as Shania after their spouses cheated with each other. The guy was hot and it looked like an upgrade for Shania. She ended up engaged to him less than a year later (People says it was 2010 but they had rings on in 2009) and they got married in January, 2011. Shania is still with her husband, Frédéric Thiébaud, and she told AARP Magazine about it, calling it “beautifully twisted” the way their relationship came about.

“It’s twisted,” Twain, 54, tells the publication. “But so beautifully twisted.”

In 2008, Twain’s ex-husband Robert John “Mutt” Lange, who was also her longtime cowriter and producer, told her their 14-year marriage was over. Within weeks, she found out why: he had been cheating on her with her dear friend and their personal assistant, Marie-Anne Thiébaud

At the time, Marie-Anne was married to Frédéric, who was the one who ended up telling Twain about their spouses’ affair. (Twain says Marie-Anne had previously assured her it was “absurd” to think Lange was unfaithful.)

“There were days I didn’t really care if tomorrow came,” says Twain, who dealt with depression after learning of the affair.

Over time, Twain leaned on Frédéric for understanding, and eventually their friendship turned romantic. The pair got engaged in 2010 and a year later, they married.

“Survival is everything,” Twain says. “I was in quicksand. I panicked, like everybody does, but I didn’t surrender. I found a way out…”

“Sometimes I get overwhelmed coping with things, but experience also teaches you how to manage,” she says. “When you get older, you have so much experience at falling and getting up. You’re not going to stop falling. But you will get better at getting up and brushing yourself off. I believe that. I’ve lived it.”

“I’m more comfortable with my body now than I was when I was younger,” says Twain. “It was really a struggle back then. But with age, you ask, ‘OK, how many more years do I have to live, and do I really want to live them feeling negative about myself and the things I can’t change?’”

[From AARP via People]

People has more background on Shania, including the fact that she lost her mother and stepfather in a car accident when Shania was just 22. She had to raise her three siblings on her own after that. I didn’t realize that about her, it must have been so tough. People also mentioned that she has lyme disease and that she had special stabilizers implanted in her throat for the effect of the disease on her vocal chords.

That’s crazy how she met her husband but it sounds like it worked out for the best. There wasn’t a lot of gossip about it because Shania and Frederic were the innocent parties and they seemed so coupled-up and genuinely in love. In photos they look so connected to each other, which is sweet. Shania is promoting her acting career, she’s in a movie called I Still Believe, which is out in March and she was in Trading Paint with John Travolta last year. She’s also writing new music. Her last album, Now, was out in September, 2017.

AARP had this video segment with Shania. She said that she has better self esteem as she ages as she’s less worried about minor things like weight gain and that has made her more experimental with fashion.

Shania’s man is looking like Weird Al! That’s not shade I find Weird Al hot for some reason.
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  1. M says:

    Those fillers.

    Conspiracy theory – they actually were the ones to start the affair but paid their exes to reverse the roles so it wouldn’t destroy her image? He’s much better looking than Mutt and…. people do strange things.

    • josephine says:

      I love a good conspiracy theory but I can’t imagine that one. I don’t think her image mattered that much at the time and Mutt was probably worth more than she was, so money would not have motivated him to do such a thing.

      The real question is whether Mutt and Marie-Anne are still together.

      And Frédéric is cuter with shorter hair.

    • Boxy Lady says:

      I’m sure those “fillers” are just good old-fashioned extra pounds. I mean, she’s in her 50s now for goodness sake.

      • Va Va Kaboom says:

        Ehhh, it’s both. Extra pounds do not totally erase lines on your face. Nor do they suddenly make you more cat-eyed

      • Boxy Lady says:

        Va Va Maybe you’re thinking of Botox? Extra weight does smooth out your face actually and, if there’s enough extra weight, will squish your eyes so they’ll look smaller and more cat-like. Just check out older people who lose a lot of weight; their faces suddenly look gaunt and wrinkled.

      • Getting Older says:

        Va Va…I’m in my 50s and just lost almost 40 pounds (from about 180 to 140 pounds). My face looks comparatively gaunt, saggy, and my jowls and chin/neck are giving a Shar-Pei dog a run for its money. Fillers would definitely help, but I know that putting the weight back on will fill in my facial area again. The weight loss has definitely affected my eyes, and I can see that my sister’s weight gain has made her face smoother…and her eyes look more cat-like. Really! I am no Shania fan, but I feel that I need to defend her against most of these accusations (to a degree).

    • stormsmama says:

      back when this all happened it was a huge deal and no she didn’t orchestrate it…not everything a conspiracy theory

    • JBones says:

      My thoughts exactly. I always wondered if Mutt took the fall for her affair. She’s the face of his songs and brand. It would beneficial for both if she remained untarnished sweet Shania. Anything is possible.

    • Laura says:

      I heard a lot of people speculating that she and her husband swung with his secretary and her husband and eventually just decided they each like the other partner more. *shrug*

  2. LoonyTunes says:

    Isn’t she a Trump supporter?

    • Rachel says:

      Shes Canadian.

      • Erinn says:

        She still ran her mouth in an interview and said she’d vote for him.

      • Valiantly Varnished says:

        And she said that if she were a US citizen she would have voted for him. So she can suck it.

      • Mika says:

        Yeah. She did say that. It’s pretty messed up for a First Nations identifying person from Canada who than immigrated to the US to support Trump but…. she’s rich so….

      • lucy2 says:

        Never cared one way or the other about her, but now I certainly have feelings, and they aren’t good.

      • Granger says:

        She doesn’t identify as First Nations. Her stepfather was First Nations.

      • Hollz says:

        Her actual quote…”would have voted for [Trump] because, even though he was offensive, he seemed honest..Do you want straight or polite? Not that you shouldn’t be able to have both. If I were voting, I just don’t want bullshit. I would have voted for a feeling that it was transparent. And politics has a reputation of not being that, right?”

        And she apologized – a real one, not a “sorry if you are offended type of thing”

        “I would like to apologise to anybody I have offended,” she wrote. “The question caught me off guard. As a Canadian, I regret answering this unexpected question without giving my response more context.

        “I was trying to explain, in a response to a question about the election, that my limited understanding was that the president talked to a portion of America like an accessible person they could relate to, as he was not a politician,” she continued. “My answer was awkward, but certainly should not be taken as representative of my values nor does it mean I endorse him.”

      • doofus says:

        yes, he seemed so “honest” about his racism, and misogyny, and xenophobia…and yet she would have been willing to overlook all that and would have voted for him. FFS, his FIRST WORDS WHEN ANNOUNCING HIS CANDIDACY were that “Mexicans are rapists and criminals”. there is NO WAY people didn’t know what kind of person he is from the get-go.

        and saying you would like to apologize for anyone you offended is not much better than saying “sorry if you were offended”.

        no, her answer wasn’t “awkward”, it was truthful, and told us who she is.

    • Tate says:

      Yes she is.

    • minx says:

      I didn’t know that. Well, bye.

    • whatWHAT? says:

      yup. that’s what I came here to say.

      sorry she went through what she did, I’m sure it was horribly painful for her, but she can go scratch. those kids in cages and their parents are experiencing a greater pain, I’d say.

      GIRL, BYE.

      • Diana says:

        Yup. It astounds me that we’re living in a world where babies and children are being put in cages. Horrendous. Shania can pound sand.

    • Christina says:

      Yeah… I liked her before she said she’d vote for Trump if she were a U.S. citizen. I know that she’s no professor, and I don’t expect that of people in the entertainment business, but that made me think that this broad is as dumb as a box of rocks. That’s why I read this post and am here to comment.

      People with a platform like hers need to understand what they promote before they open their mouths and mess with people’s lives. At least Trump supporters know that they are racist and sexist. Can’t stand her now.

    • tealily says:


    • schmootc says:

      Well, crap. That’s disappointing. And I always liked her. I suppose if there’s one thing that this administration has done, it’s shown what some people are really like. Good to know who’s morally bankrupt.

      • Eva says:

        I don’t really care about Shania Twain, but Shania did not endorse Trump or say she would have voted for him. She was misquoted, taken out of context. She apologized and clarified she did not endorse him and was only trying to express why she felt his supporters might have voted for him.

      • minx says:

        Yes, she did. Her quote was “I would have voted for him because, even though he was offensive, he seemed honest.”

  3. LindaS says:

    Shes Canadian. Dont think she is a US citizen.

  4. Erinn says:

    I know of at least two sets of couples this has happened to in real life. One of them had two kids, and they all used to vacation together. But I mean… if it works for them, I guess.

    I still think she’s shady as hell from her Trump comments, apology or not.

    • AliceMadHatter says:

      One of my coworkers cheated on her husband with a married man. Their affair was exposed, they both got a divorce and lived together for a while. It didn’t work though, so my coworker tried to get back with her ex-husband… but, plot twist, she discovered he was happily dating the ex-wife of her ex-lover !

    • tealily says:

      I mean, it makes sense. Obviously they have a lot in common (even outside of the messy relationship stuff) and were close to start with.

  5. Canadiangirl says:

    She is Canadian and has never even lived in the States.

    • CROWHOOD says:

      Y’all know you can vocalize support for a politician in a country you don’t reside in, right? Just because she couldn’t or didn’t vote for him doesn’t mean she didn’t stump for him and so no thanks.

      • ChillyWilly says:

        Exactly. I don’t think Shania is right in the head. But I will forever love her first album.

      • MariaS says:

        Thank you. The “She’s Canadian” response to “She supports Trump” is so ridiculous. A lot of non-Germans supported and continue to support Adolf Hitler’s values and actions.

    • YaGotMe says:

      She’s had a residency in Vegas for a decade, she’s lived in the US.

  6. Larelyn says:

    I don’t see Wierd Al, but understand the comparison. I see Kenny G. And not really in a good way.

    (… and I totally get your Wierd Al appreciation. I share it. Nice guy, brilliant, funny, all his features are in the right places, what’s not to love? and did you know he’s incredibly flexible?)

    • Amy Too says:

      In the picture where he’s wearing glasses, with his curly hair, I see the character Skipper from sex and the city.

  7. manda says:

    You never saw her behind the music years ago? I remember that so vividly, but I used to watch those over and over. VH1 and MTV were all about marathons back in the day. I remember she was from a super small town and her parents died tragically, she sang at little places, she had a super hot body, and that Mutt Lange was a weirdo. They didn’t actually say that, but they only showed an old picture of him because he was “reclusive” and didn’t like photos or interviews. Apparently they had a very passionate love in the beginning, and at the time of the behind the music, (early 2000′s maybe late 90′s, I guess) they were still hot and heavy, so when the affair came out it was somewhat shocking. And yes, how it ended up is crazy too. She seemed nice and I hope the best for her. She performed around thanksgiving at some award show and was pretty good. I’ve missed her and am glad to see her again!

    • josephine says:

      I’m not sure I would classify him as a weirdo – probably more private. He’s South African, I think, from a super wealthy family or something like that? He’s a really successful producer in his own right, probably enhanced her career. Not downplaying the fact that he had an affair but it’s not the situation that he was some weird guy that was riding her coattails and taking advantage of her success and fame.

      • Redgrl says:

        Mutt Lange was the producer behind her and lots of 80’s bands – Def Leppard for one. Oddly you can hear similarities in some of their songs and hers even though they’re totally different musical styles. I remember after she and her husband busted up she was working on her next album without him. She was promoting a song off of it (which was awful – it rhymed like “I went to the store ‘cause I wanted some more and then I saw you and I wasn’t very blue” amateur stuff) and she was saying “I can’t believe I lost my voice after I left my husband! I literally couldn’t sing!” People were chuckling that she obviously didn’t appreciate he had been auto tuning the hell out of her voice and was never a great singer.

      • manda says:

        I didn’t mean to imply that he rode her coattails, I thought it was known that he was her producer and very successful prior to getting with her. I just remember all you ever saw of him was a very dated black and white portrait and that’s kind of weird. Even for a private person, IMO

      • Grant says:

        I feel like Shania’s songwriting has always been extremely juvenile though, even on the records that Mutt produced. She has songs called “That Don’t Impress Me Much” and “I’m Gonna Getcha Good!” for Heaven’s sake. The excessive use of exclamation points irks me.

      • Redgrl says:

        @grant – yes, I agree. I think the “gonna getcha good” was one of the post-Mutt songs I was talking about. At least before they split up her songs were kind of silly but they were funny and catchy whereas post-Mutt they became just stupid.

      • Meg says:

        I agree his production on her songs made then great but correcting the grammar in song titles that are meant to be fun and catchy is odd

      • GreenTurtle says:

        @Redgrl, Gonna Gotcha Good is from Up, and was co-written by Mutt.

    • tealily says:

      Yes! Everything I know about Shania Twain came from that Behind the Music.

    • osito says:

      I do remember the Behind the Music and all the press surrounding her back then. She always cited raising her younger sibs as the reason why she never wanted kids of her own — She had a ‘been there, done that’ mentality about it.

      As for her and Mutt being “passionate,” I’m not sure about that one way or the other. This very site has an article circa their divorce that speculated that she was a part of some cultish religion that dictated she not have sex *within* her marriage unless the goal was procreation. And since she made it clear that was not her goal 🤷🏽‍♀️… I just read that article a few weeks ago (probably during a slow news holiday) because it was advertised in that group of old articles above the comments section. Like I said, I dunno if it’s true, and even if it is, Mutt should have kept it in his pants until the relationship ended, but juicy nonetheless.

  8. YaGotMe says:

    The last few events I’ve seen her speak, she can barely form a complete thought or sentence, not sure if it’s all the filler or something else.
    I will give her credit for creating a career off of one good album.

    • Meg says:

      She had more than one good album, and good is belittling. looking it up now, come on over is the best selling album released by a female artist in any genre

    • horseandhound says:

      she has 4 great albums. two of those are amazing. almost every song out of those two are hits. her last album is not that great, but the older ones are perfection. what she did in country, how she made it fun and hip and modern is very special.

      • Redgrl says:

        I really enjoyed the album with the boots under the bed song – and her video spoofing Robert Palmer’s videos was hilarious. When she was on top of her game she had some fun songs that are still good to sing along to. But as I said above- she was a fairly mediocre singer who benefited greatly from being very attractive and having a powerful producer for a husband and his savvy marketing team behind her. Many more talented singers didn’t get the same breaks – but that’s the music industry for you – no big surprise.

      • Granger says:

        I have to agree with Redgrl. Her tunes were catchy but the lyrics were juvenile and sometimes just downright stupid. She was heavily produced and superbly marketed. All power to her — she came from nothing and she knew how to get ahead!

  9. Middle of the road says:

    So y’all cancel a person over politics? That’s profoundly sad. It makes y’all look like small minded jerks. I’m no Trump supporter, but rather then immediately canceling a person for being republican perhaps you can find out why first. People like y’all continue to divide this country and then want to blame others saying it’s their fault. Canceling someone immediately over politics is no better then disliking someone because they’re Muslim. Smh.

    • Aims says:

      Ok I’ll bite. For me I don’t care about party, but as of late Trump and those associated with are so morally and ethically corrupt that I would question them as a person. He is so vile that he has brought out the worst in this country and I would question anyone who would support him. It’s not okay to give racist a pass as he has. It’s not Ok to brag about sexual assault. And anyone who supports that leadership is someone that I would question.

    • whatWHAT? says:

      it’s not because she’s a republican, it’s because she’s a trumper. there IS a difference, but perhaps someone with no ability to discern such “subtleties” would understand.

      so, no, not “for politics”, but because she supports and said she would vote for someone who mocks disabled people, denigrates Gold Star parents, grabs women by the p*ssy without their consent, rapes women (ALLEGEDLY), is a bigot, puts kids in cages, is PROFOUNDLY dumb and yet thinks he knows everything, bullies his political opponents (and anyone who doesn’t kiss his ass) and name-calls like a 6 year-old, is ruining the environment with his rollback of EPA standards, and is basically serving only HIS needs, and those of Mother Russia. and that’s not even all of it.

      and nice try with your false equivalence. hating someone for all of the above is NOT NEARLY the same as hating someone because of their religious affiliation.

    • lucy2 says:

      This is beyond politics. We aren’t debating economic theory or tax codes. It’s about basic human decency, and Trump and his ilk have shown they have NONE. So anyone who vocally supports that, the children in cages, the destruction of the environment, the attacks on the poor, the disabled, the sick, the elderly, women’s rights, journalists, I can go on and on here, but yes, anyone who supports that deserves to be called on it.

    • Anne says:

      I sort of agree. I’m willing to forgive people who voted for Trump or said that they would. Not everyone knew how awful he would turn out to be. If they continue supporting him now that he’s shown how cruel and horrible he is then I feel differently.

      • doofus says:

        The only people who didn’t know how awful he’d be are the ones who weren’t paying attention to the campaign and always just vote the party line. so, no, they don’t get a pass. KNOW YOUR CANDIDATE. if your only excuse was “er – DERP – I didn’t know!” then you don’t get to vote for someone whose actions and policies affect ALL OF US. yeah, even those who don’t look or worship or love like you do.

        He mocked that disabled reporter in 2015. so, yeah, people knew how awful he was. he characterized Mexicans as “drug dealers, criminals and rapist” AT HIS ANNOUNCEMENT THAT HE WAS RUNNING. so, yeah, people knew how awful he was WELL BEFORE he became president. I don’t give any of them a pass.

      • tealily says:

        I’d like to hear “Yeah, that didn’t really turn out how I thought it would and it turns out he’s horrible. I was wrong,” first.

    • MariaS says:

      It’s profoundly sad, @Middle of the Road, that you think a white supremacist, misogynist, toxic, abusive, environment destroying for the sake of greed monster who has humans (including children and babies) in cages like Trump should not face consequences for what he’s doing and his supporters shouldn’t be called out for co-signing his evil actions. It’s sad that you think the people who are speaking up and refusing to accept this are the problem. It’s sad that you think rejecting the blatant bigotry and cruelty of Trump and his supporters = bigotry. No one on this thread is calling her out for being or supporting Republicans. They are calling out a person who has said she’d vote for him if she was a US citizen despite everything.

    • mash says:

      im with you @middle … this site has become a hive of white feminism and the AGREE WITH ME OR YOURE CANCELLED (cancel culture)

      its incredibly isolating as a black woman who loves entertainment news/gossip holistically (black, white, etc. gossip) and would love objectivity.

      • Jaded says:

        I respectfully disagree – there are many people of colour who regularly comment on this site and over the years I’ve been reading these articles I’ve been educated by many thoughtful, insightful and opinions from all races/creeds. We don’t cancel Trump lovers, we are disgusted by the fact that they willfully ignore the man’s criminality, misogyny and racism. He and his grifting family are making rich people richer on the backs of people who are dying because they can’t afford medical care. He is leading the US to the brink of nuclear war. THAT is why we are anti-Trump, notice I didn’t say anti-Republican.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        It is funny that you say that. One of the reasons that I love reading this site is the diversity of the commenters. I love hearing the opinions from people outside the US and as a white woman I like hearing from the racially diverse commenters. I like the intellect of the commenters and being given an opportunity to understand the difference in life beyond my doorstep. I don’t want to spend money, time or energy supporting people who are ok with a President who cheerfully violates human rights daily. But to each his or her own.

    • tealily says:

      Republican =/= Trump supporter.

    • Guest says:

      Are you okay with Hitler supporters too?

      Being a repubican is not the same as supporting Cheetolini.

    • minx says:

      Yes. Yes, I do.

    • Wilma says:

      I don’t know why I am not allowed to spend my money where I please, which is what cancelling someone means.

    • Amy Too says:

      Lol. “But why are they trump supporters?” Is it that they just hate brown people and like that brown babies get torn away from their parents and put in cages? Maybes it’s just that they really hate gay, gender nonconforming, or trans people? Perhaps they’re just white supremacists—they could just be literal Nazis. Or it could be that they hate women and are anti-abortion, birth control, and equal pay but pro-rape, child marriage, and letting sexual assaulters off with a warning. Then again, maybe they’re just really into an evangelical takeover of the country or hate Jews and Muslims. Or maybe they really hate science facts and want to live in a country where global warming is denied and vaccines are outlawed and all the politicians just lie directly to your face over and over again, boldly, never being fact checked or called out on it.

      What is an okay reason for being a Trump supporter? Not an “old school, 1970s Republican,” but specifically a Trump supporter?

    • Loulalou says:

      Exactly what I was thinking reading these comments. This cancelling of people over remarks (that seems to be rife on this site) is just so ignorant. No one here knows this woman personally so how can you tear her to pieces over one comment. Ffs grow up.

  10. Mrs. Darcy says:

    Um her husband has long curly hair like Weird Al but other than that he’s a good looking dude (I have curly hair and always get compared to Nicole Kidman, who I look nothing like, simply because of the hair). Sorry just bugs me it’s a thing that people only see the hair! I remember her back story about her parents, I think she had a few siblings she basically had to raise too. The second marriage could be seen as twisted because it came out of darkness/pain, but what if they were supposed to be together all along and only met their first spouses so they would end up together? (a little bit out there I know but her life has been so dramatic it makes sense to me!). I liked some of her music in the early/mid 90s, I HATED country because I was young, it was super un-hip, but my best friend was obsessed with it and convinced me to love “Whose bed have your boots been under?” Her more mainstream stuff is a bit bland to me.

  11. Texas says:

    Back in the day, if you liked country music, this was huge. And she does seem odd in person. But her early music was fun.

  12. The Recluse says:

    John Travolta did a movie last year?
    And she was in it?
    First I heard of any of that.

  13. SJR says:

    Young folks, let me clue ya…Back in the day Mutt Lange was a HUGE producer, he basically made her a career. When she first hit it big, it was an MTV joke..”Shania Twain sure looks hot and Mutt can make it look as if she sings”

    He took a good looking girl outta some small town, put Def Leppard on hold, managed her career, produced, backed her with tons of his cash, and then married her.
    Yeah, country music was scandalized because she bared her belly button in a video..she was known as a hot chick, period. At their starts Shania and Faith Hill both had huge hits due to their good looks and videos.

    • Lady Baden-Baden says:

      Hm. Patronizing and sexist. Thanks for that.

      • Anon33 says:

        The music industry is sexist, and forces it’s female performers to act accordingly. So, no, that comment wasn’t sexist, it was pointing out the truth of the situation. Did you even see the “man, I feel like a woman” video? It explicitly showcases her hotness.
        Critical thought is a thing.

      • Lady Baden-Baden says:

        Critical thinking, huh? Better buck up my ideas.
        Thank you for your schooling on the sexism of the music industry. I had NO idea. (That’s called SARCASM)
        So – I prob made my point badly. I often do. Type in haste, repent at leisure. But I can’t be bothered to explain. Not to you.
        Have a lovely day.

      • JBones says:

        don’t shoot the messenger…

    • MariaS says:

      In addition to the slut shaming for her clothing choices, Nashville also disliked her because Mutt Lange was an outsider to the country scene and they griped that she was pop, not country, and she hadn’t paid her dues. It didn’t matter – thanks to VH-1 and radio, which played her videos and songs on rotation, she had a lot of commercial success.

    • Grant says:

      Except that Faith Hill can actually sing…

      • Meg says:

        If your standard is faith hill then youre going to be disappointed by a lot of singers. I can acknowledge jlo doesnt have an amazing voice but liked her songs. Shania had really fun songs that are still really fun

    • horseandhound says:

      shania used to be a very good singer. she wasn’t just a pretty face.

  14. CanadianK says:

    It’s true that she can’t sing. I saw her on Canadian television (tommy hunter show) and she was not good. I was surprised when she made it big. For a while, she claimed to be First Nations until home town reporters wrote articles. It was controversial because her step siblings are but she is not by birth.

    • Christin says:

      I remember reading years ago that she initially misrepresented her familial/birth relationship. There was also an article claiming she had an older wealthy benefactor who assisted her physical transformation, during the time she was playing a supper club (before Mutt entered the picture).

      I watched a couple of episodes of her post-Mutt breakup reality show, and it didn’t impress me much. She seemed to be completely adrift musically/professionally without her mentor. Frédéric seems like a nice person, so hopefully she’s personally happy.

  15. Nibbi says:

    It kind of irks me that she says ‘“Survival is everything, . . I was in quicksand. I panicked, like everybody does, but I didn’t surrender. I found a way out…”’
    Like, good on her that she was able to find love and move on & do so rather quickly. But she makes it sound as if she came through the desert alone, Moses-like, when in fact it was falling in love with another man & kind of the one most at hand at the moment that helped so much. Can’t knock that I suppose, but that sort of thing happened to me & I would have given anything for another man to “rescue” me out of that hell. That was her “way out,” and it sounds like it was incredibly lucky for her.

    • 2lazy4username says:

      I’m going through a separation that will likely lead to divorce after 30 years together. Pure hell. The LAST thing I want is another man to “rescue” me from this. I’m leaning on my amazing friends, and – most of all – learning to lean on myself. We are so much stronger than we think. <3

      • Christin says:

        I wish you peace on this part of the journey.

        Strength of self is a great thing to discover. One thing I have learned in life is – be your own best friend. I’m not sure ST ever gave herself enough time to experience that empowering feeling.

  16. Nuzzybear says:

    She repented of the Trump answer here:

    A lot of people made the same mistake. We’ll see how many really came to their senses in November.

    • doofus says:

      eh, that wasn’t much of an apology. “sorry to anyone I offended” is not an apology.

      to boot, that article made it sound like she only “apologized” because of the backlash from her original comment.

      and I don’t agree that people “made a mistake” when they voted for him. that’s a cop out. he showed us who he was well before the election. the people who voted for him did so IN SPITE of all of the information out there…that he mocked a disabled journalist, that he denigrated a war hero AND Gold Star parents, that he was a serial sexual assaulter, that he’s a bigot, that he’s dumb, that he’s a criminal, that he’s a bully, etc. AND THEY STILL VOTED FOR HIM. nah. NO PASS FOR THEM.

    • Blueskies says:

      Yes, post-election Tom Hanks anyone? “We’ve been through worse”.

  17. holly hobby says:

    She says she feels confident about her looks but her face is blown up like a Macy’s parade float. She does not look like herself.

    Oh yeah, I remember this gossip from years ago. Her hubby was hot not now I think. Maybe he needs a trim because he does look like Weird Al.

  18. Boomer says:

    She looks like she’s drunk all the time with her new face lol

  19. Mirage says:

    I’m French and know nothing about country music but I loved “Man, I feel like a Woman”. I was fascinated by the music video and had no idea what was going on. Strange and catchy at the same time.

  20. Anna says:

    You know she has Lyme disease and it affected her vocal cords.

  21. Jillybean says:

    It’s kind of crazy how Lyme disease has affected three of our major stars out of Canada… I believe all three are from Ontario…? Shania, Avril and the Beibs… I’m from another far away province but I have a friend who lives in my province also from ontario who is struggling with Lyme too… it is a horrific disease (meaning the whole diagnosis route and getting to the treatment is a journey..) and it can manifest in so many ways