Karlie Kloss: ‘I really followed my heart on choosing to be with the person that I love’


Karlie Kloss has been with Joshua Kushner for many years. She was with him before the Kushner name became synonymous with “arrogant man-child pretending to run the Trump government.” Karlie had a moment, as a Democrat, back in 2016-17 to walk away clean and she didn’t take it. Instead, she chose to double-down and act like she was super-brave to marry into such a corrupt and gross family. Joshua and Karlie’s first wedding was in 2018, in upstate New York, in the woods. Then they had a second cowboy-themed wedding last year. There were widespread reports – even some reported comments from Jared – that the Kushner family didn’t even like Karlie, that they think she’s just some dumb shiksa. We also know that Karlie doesn’t want “Kushner” to be part of her larger career brand – remember how mad she got when a Project Runway contestant brought it up?

Anyway, Karlie chatted with Diane von Fürstenberg for DVF’s new podcast, and Karlie was asked again about her marriage to Joshua and more. Some quotes:

The complications: “I really followed my heart on choosing to be with the person that I love, despite any complications that came with it. You know, I knew for me, it was worth it to fight for that. I think that in my career too, you know, being true to my heart or being true to myself, when I know that something is not aligned with who I am, and the message I want to send to the world, or the kind of person that I want to be maybe that comes back to character. But like, my heart often is telling me exactly what I need to hear. And I didn’t always listen to it.”

On being tall from a young age: “I hated my height from as early as I can remember, because I can remember being in kindergarten on the first day and a full head and a half taller than all of the boys. And I remember all throughout school, it was so painful because I was not only so tall, but I was just so stringy. I was so long and lean and I hated it more than I can even tell you.”

How she developed her confidence: “I kind of developed some confidence through having success in my career and kind of starting to see that, like my hard work can pay off. And being driven and being focused on something and having success and being able to continue to build on this career gave me a sense of confidence.”

[From People]

Tall Girl Syndrome is real, I remember being friends with some tall girls when I was in middle school and high school. I remember tall girls always being teased for their height but I always thought “but they look like models.” There used to be a lot of anti-tall-girl buzz when I was a kid and maybe when Karlie was a kid too, but I hope that’s changed? It feels like tall girls these days are enjoying their height more and more.

As for what she says about her marriage… yeah, I couldn’t do it. She clearly thinks she’s super-brave for marrying into a family that has her related to Ivanka Trump. I’m sure Karlie batted her eyelashes and looked wistful as she described her own bravery at following her heart. All I know is that this isn’t some simple political difference like “haha, my aunt takes Sean Hannity seriously, wtf.” This is something that affects her daily life, and her ability to relate to her husband and his family. And it’s just f–ked up. I couldn’t do it. I couldn’t play six degrees of Trump.

Karlie Kloss, Josh Kushner at arrivals f...

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  1. girl_ninja says:

    Yeah. She’s full of it.

    • echo says:

      yep. and to top it off, they’re besties, not lovers. josh aint into her type, if uknw what I mean. this was more methodical than anything. also, MONEY & CONNECTIONS.

      blood money, kushner blood money

      • Deehunny says:

        Ya I mean I’ve never seen him before except for these photos and I thought the same thing

  2. Aria says:

    She followed the money. If she and her hubby are horrified of what trump, Ivanka and Republican do , why they are not cutting off from Kushner claim. Harry literally gave up living in palace , what Joshua did?? These two are fake Democrats and they are friends with oil tycoon and they are not cutting from khunsher shady money speaks volume. They are just showing off to public. Same way billionaire never took a stand on Democrat or Republican beacuse a smart business man knows he needs both the party to run business. That’s why many billionaire doesnt come against trump or Republicans open beacuse they need them so much. Especially mitch Senate is scary.

    • line says:

      On top of that Joshua Kushner likes to say that he has nothing to do with his family but he continued to work actively in partnership with his brother on shady and immoral real estate deals. And his circle of friends and the same as Javanka. All their statements are bullshit, they just want to keep a brand image in order to continue to win money.

      • lucy2 says:

        Yup. He’s still way too connected to the family business. To me, it’d be different if he had no professional ties and worked independently or in another field all together. But he’s still in it, and benefiting from it. You can’t choose your family, but you can choose what you do with your life.

      • LahdidahBaby says:

        Lucy2, that should be engraved on everyone’s brain-pan:

        “You can’t choose your family, but you can choose what you do with your life.”


    • CindyP says:

      Weird, she doesn’t even call him by name in the interview. “The person I love…” Who talks like that?

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Someone who watched too many docudramas about the abdication of King Edward Whatever to be with “the woman I love.” Someone who has no idea of the backstory on the D&D of Windsor, their Nazi ties or their general snobbish superficiality.


    • Christina says:

      Yes, Aria. I would respect them more if they lived off of her modeling money and his “work”, but he works for his family or he wouldn’t have the wealth that he does. They seem unable to divorce the family because of the money and lifestyle.

      If you really don’t approve of what your family does, then you leave and become financially independent, even if that means a one-room walk up to the 10th floor. Lots of people do it. The type of stuff that is reported about the Kushner’s boys’ mom, like trying to control them by making them leave their blonde girlfriends, is stuff you leave for, and Karlie seems okay with being called a dumb woman by her in-laws. Prince Harry moved on from his mentally and emotionally abusive family. Regular people do it everyday. Principles are lived. Joshua and Karlie are playing both sides for financial security instead of standing on their own.

  3. adastraperaspera says:

    Josh’s father, Charles Kushner, was sentenced for tax evasion and witness tampering in 2005. Kushner’s are mob, full on, and have been for decades. Josh is the pretend tech bro of the group (currently cashing in on the pandemic with the Oscar testing app). As for him being a registered Democrat? So was Trump. Karlie is lying. I think it’s sexist to give women like Melania, Karlie and Ivanka (and Ivana!) a break by naively assuming they don’t know how their families are funded by organized crime.

    • Lightpurple says:

      That test kit scam seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle. People DIED because of that decision while people are still dying from it.

      I wouldn’t lump Ivanka in with Melania, Karlie, and Ivana. Ivanka isn’t just enjoying the spoils while pretending she doesn’t know what is going on as a passive participant. Ivanka is an active participant. These are her policies her father is enacting. She is part of every decision he makes and she has stolen so much from us.

      • adastraperaspera says:

        Agree that Ivanka is most likely the power behind the throne. Some rumors say it’s she and Jared running the whole show.

      • Aria says:

        ADASTRAPERASPERA agree. Ivanka is golden child and she is very much in trump estate business too. But the thing with trumps is that they never throw anyone under the bus for pr especially ivanka . Unlike cambridge’s and royal family who throw they own blood into wolves for cheap pr and public opinion.

      • LahdidahBaby says:

        Amen, Lightpurple.

    • Fleur says:

      I was thinking that, too—-the Kushner family was shady, even without their connection to Trump. Not sure how she manages to consistently avoid talking about it. I guess she only gives interviews to fashion mouthpieces that are willing to only lob softballs at her…

  4. Snappyfish says:

    Hilarious that Jared would call her (or state the family thinks) a dumb shiska. Isn’t that exactly what Ivanka is? I remember a story that Jared’s mother made him break up with Ivanka for a time & that’s when she started taking conversion classes.

    As for Kloss? How brave you married into a wealthy crime family. And Yes, her husband is as bad as Jared. He started Oscar the company that was hired to make the COVID19 tests the government was shilling to states instead of taking the offered ones from the WHO (yes again proving Trump lies. The WHO offered the US COVID19 tests in January & the Orange Fraud turned them down.)

    As for her career? Yes, she is on Runway after most people stopped watching. You go girl!!

  5. grabbyhands says:

    Wow, so brave.

    Start making some clear statements about about how you and the hubs have absolutely cut yourselves off from his fascist family in laws and then I’ll take it seriously.

    Until then it’s just a bunch of window dressing so people think you’re progressive.

  6. Valerie says:

    Ummm. Yeah, if you believe that, I’ve got a bridge i can sell you.

  7. Ladyem says:

    I understand what she’s saying regarding her husband and I’m glad she stuck by him. I’m very liberal, but my brothers from my dad’s first marriage are conservative to the EXTREME, to the point that they are blatantly racist. It’s pretty horrifying to me that we share any genetics at all. I married a very kind, liberal man who is also horrified by their worldview, but chose to see me as an individual instead of judging me by who I’m related to.
    I’m not sure what kind of contact Karlie has with her brother in law, and the frequency she socializes with him may change my opinion of her quite a bit. In my case I see my brothers once a year at the holidays because I don’t want to lose contact with my little nieces and nephews.
    But just marrying someone in that family (who doesn’t even share Trump’s politics) shouldn’t be enough to demonize her.

    • manda says:

      I agree. My sister’s stepdaughters are super trumpy, but her husband (their father) isn’t. Just because you are related to someone closely, doesn’t mean you think the same way

    • Esmom says:

      I hear what you’re saying but for the Kushners it’s a lot more complicated than ideological differences. Or actually it’s pretty simple: it’s money.

    • Who ARE These People? says:

      Hitler had relatives. What did they do?

    • lucy2 says:

      I think most people have at least one family member like that, and I don’t blame anyone for it.
      But her husband is still involved with the family business. That to me is very different than “oh his family sucks but I love him”.

  8. Louise says:

    Those Kushners all have the same eyebrows. They can both fuck off.

  9. manda says:

    I was a tall child, I have the memories of being one of the tallest people in first and second grade. Always on the highest riser during choral concerts. But then, in 7th grade I stopped growing. So, while I was really tall then, I am just a little tall now. Karlie Kloss is like 6’2″ and that is crazy tall. I would love to be like 5’11”. I am 5’7″

    • Taya says:

      Same here. I was always among the tallest in class. I remember we would have to line up by height and I was always the first for second. When I was in fifth grade, I had to change schools and I remember snarky kids saying that I probably failed a grade, there was no way I was the same age as them, cause I was too tall.

    • Audrey says:

      Same here as a child. I was the tallest until junior high and then stopped growing. I’m 5’3″ on a good day! 🙂

    • Swack says:

      My daughter was the tall one one her class. In class pictures she was standing in the back with all the boys. Finally in 5th grade the teacher had her sit on the front. It was hard on her.

    • Flamingo says:

      I’ve been 5’10” since 8th grade and it was horrible. It wasn’t just peers who liked to make jokes, but teachers who liked to make comments too. I was naturally very thin and I remember in middle school, the word of the day in language arts was waif and I was the example. I wasn’t comfortable with being tall until college.

    • megs283 says:

      I’ve been 5’11” since the 6th grade. It was freaking ROUGH.

  10. Not susan says:

    Many people forget who else was supposed to get married around the same time as K and J — mr khashoggi, that’s who! He was visiting the consulate in relation to his marriage license when he was whacked, and the trumps and Kushners have downplayed it ever since.

    Honey these are terrible people and you’re married into a terrible family. Don’t be surprised when it bounces back on you!!

    ETA: I am 5’10 female

  11. Case says:

    My dad’s whole side of the family is very conservative, racist, and generally kinda awful. My dad isn’t like that at all, and my mom knew that when she married him. My dad has limited contact with his family but still tries to be there for them when he can, and we spend some holidays with them.

    Don’t judge people by their families or the families they marry into. I don’t understand all the vitriol toward Karlie, who from what I’ve seen is quite intelligent and super involved in promoting STEM learning for young girls.

  12. Sean says:

    Would she have followed her heart if he wasn’t rich?

    • Esmom says:

      THIS. This was exactly what I took from between the lines.

    • horseandhound says:

      she obviously loves him as a whole. it’s definitely not only about the money. but I’m sure she likes the fact he’s rich. everybody likes abundance. nothing to be ashamed of. it would be lame if she was with somebody she didn’t love for money, but being with somebody you love and being glad he’s got money isn’t a sin.

    • fifee says:

      He might be super wealthy but she’s not exactly lacking in the finance dept. herself.

  13. Amelie says:

    There is actually a movie on Netflix called Tall Girl, about a tall high school girl and the ridicule that goes along with it. It’s a cute movie and nothing amazing but it made me think of that when Karlie talked about being so tall at a young age.

    As for her choice to marry Joshua, she’s a braver woman than me I guess. Or savvy in terms of finances. It isn’t always fair to judge people based on their families but Joshua isn’t exactly estranged from Jared, Ivanka, and his father right? If she were to go on record and say he barely interacts with his family I think we’d be less judgey but I don’t think that is the case!

  14. workdog says:

    My daughter is 5’11 and thankfully never “slumped” to hide her height. She danced from 3 years on and I think that discipline helped her maintain a nice straight posture. Her husband is 6’0 but she wears heels that make her well over 6 ft cuz she likes them. He doesn’t mind.:-) I also think it’s important to try to encourage confidence in one’s self regardless of physical attributes; unfortunately, people can be cruel. Sigh.

    This family (Kushner/Trump) is a dumpster fire, for sure. She has a right to be happy, undoubtedly, and she’s not responsible for their choices, but because it’s a reality the way they do things she has to be aware of the view many would take on her choice. It is what it is.

    • Wisca says:

      My mom is 6’2″, I’m 5’11, my daughter 5’10. When I was three, my mom put me in ballet, and I did the same for my daughter. A tall confident woman really hits her stride at 16-18 or if she’s able to go to college. Suddenly, that liability becomes a HUGE BONUS (especially if you are thin). Guys who think height is beautiful suddenly appear, and there are a lot of them & suddenly you are around older guys who don’t want a young woman who looks like almost everyone else.

      I was not an athlete, but my daughter is. The best thing for tall girls is dance and sports, particularly a sport where her height is beneficial.

      I told my daughter as she struggled in HS: It’s hard to be different UNTIL it isn’t.

      • workdog says:

        Yep. My daughter played volleyball/competitive volleyball through high school and really enjoyed it. She also danced on performing dance teams; I think those things also help with the ability to “be in front” of people and boost their confidence to speak, etc., while being “seen”. Me? I’m 5’6 and she got her dad’s long legs, thankfully, not my tree trunks. LOL

      • Wisca says:

        Volleyball is an excellent sport for tall young women.

      • Flamingo says:

        Agreed! Once I got to college guys started coming out of the woodwork. It was no longer, you look like a flamingo, it was you’re built like a supermodel. (In college I was, now not so much.) I also started ballet at about 18 months old and attribute that to helping to carry myself well.

      • McMom says:

        Good point about sports. My stepdaughter is very, very tall and slouches terribly. I have encouraged (ok, pushed) her into lacrosse because I want her to have the confidence that comes with playing a sport. I want her to own her height, but she’s not there yet. It doesn’t help that her stepsister (my daughter) is tiny and petite and gets lots of attention for being adorable.

        Sigh…puberty is tough.

  15. L4frimaire says:

    I just don’t find her that attractive or interesting, even being married into that corrupt, jailbird family of future and ex-felons. Remember when she and Taylor Swift were besties and glued to the hip? What happened there? Side note, “The Tall Girl” on Netflix is a really cute film if you want something to watch with the tweens.

    • Eleonor says:

      They grew up, which is perfectly fine to me.
      BUT I bet TS pr machine is beyond relived they don’t have to deal with the Kushner name.

  16. Taya says:

    The whole Kushner clan is corrupt. Remember their sister was caught bribing Chinese investors saying ghat if they invest with the kushners, their visas could be expedited cause of the kushners’ close ties to the wh. And then theirs the whole oscar covid testing shadiness.

  17. elle says:

    oh #sobrave

    Nobody else ever followed their heart

  18. Emilia says:

    Sick and tired of this chick trying to claim her husband is nothing like the rest of his family. When our gov turned down those WHO tests they turned around and gave a contract to a company started by her husband, Oscar Health. She’s a lying sack of shit and her husband is just as shady as the rest of his corrupt family.

  19. Emily says:

    If Joshua wasn’t like his family – like, if he had walked away from them and the power and connections – then she would get a pass from me. But it seems like he’s still good with his brother and dad who are scum. Isn’t it rumoured that Josh’s Oscar Health is profiting from the horrible COVID testing rollout? It makes her complicit. This is the real reason her and Taylor aren’t friends anymore.

    • Aria says:

      Lol taylor and karlie relationship is complicated. There are many rumors of taylor wanting karlie as more than friend. The dress song is about her. Karlie seems to be straight and love Joshua. That’s why taylor and she never spotted again.

  20. Kinsley says:

    It was awful that Jared broke up with Ivanka, because she was not jewish and only he agree to take her back if she convert to his religion!! I mean, if he really love her; why he didn’t fight for her?? Why did he follow his mom orders and dump her!! Even idiotic Trump said… Why did my daughter need to convert or change religion to marry someone??, And Karlie did the same for Josh!! Why did Ivanka and Karlie need to prove and show the Kushners, they were worthy to marry or enter this family??, This I still don’t understand it!! 😐

    • OriginalLara says:

      Converting just to get married is a concept I don’t get either. Like, how much do you really love someone if they have to change first before you’ll agree to marry then?

      • Kinsley says:

        Yeah, you are so right!! I also don’t get this concept on converting just to marry someone, who let’s be honestly; don’t think you are good enough, if you don’t convert to their religion!! 😔

    • Humbugged says:

      Original and Kinsley

      Jewishness is a matriarchal line so if she had not converted their children would not be classed as Jews

  21. emmy says:

    Oh my God. Why is she giving these oatmeal interviews? They’re not interesting.

    I think being tall these days is even more awesome because fashion trends have been favoring tall women for years. The high waists, maxi skirts, flats, endless layers… I can’t pull much of it off because I’m shortish and curvy.

  22. Veronica says:

    Amazing how many models follow their ~hearts~ into dollar signs, isn’t it?

    • Hungkat says:

      True. Plenty of people could improve their financial situation by comproming themselves to be with someone who is financially better of. I hooked up with someone last year, who owns a house that’s worth twice as much as mine They wanted to pursue a relationship with me but I wasn’t interested. But if I looked at it from a purely financial point of view getting with them would’ve been advantageous.

  23. Mrs.Krabapple says:

    Ye$$$, $$$he totally love$$$ him, $$$o much that $$$he will brave any negative backla$$$h $$$he might get in her career, for marrying into a family of crook$$$ and a$$holes. $$$$$$

  24. frenchtoast says:

    He walks like a woman.

  25. Ariel says:

    All I hear when she talks about her marriage is: incredibly gorgeous, smart women sometimes/often have awful taste in men, too.

  26. Summer says:

    *Raises hand*. I felt sooo uncomfortable in HS. I’m 5’9 and I weighed 120. I felt lanky and awkward. I wasn’t unpopular, but being petite was the thing. Then when I touched base with my old HS friends, they kept telling me that I looked like a supermodel. Would’ve been a little nice to have been told that back then. 🙁 I definitely didn’t feel that way about myself at that time. Now I love being tall.

  27. Branvoyage says:

    We all have a MAGAt uncle or dad or cousin or whatever. It sucks. But legit her brother in law is apart of these press conferences. I think she’s full of crap. Super rich and playing both sides when it benefits her in the moment.

    The difference in our dumb relatives and hers are that ours really believe in the orange turd and think he’s ‘the greatest president ever!’. Hers are well educated and know what’s really going on. They know this country is getting stripped like a stolen car and they are just pigs in that trough. They know better but they’re getting a piece of this pie before it’s gone forever.

  28. Golly Gee says:

    They are both very shiny.

  29. Steph says:

    I’m 6’2 and it was an absolute nightmare growing up as a tall girl.

    I’m 40 now and I love it but man oh man it was rough.

    Example: In addition to every stupid joke in the book adults would tell me that one day I’d be very pretty… Touching right??

  30. K says:

    When you’re the tall girl growing up – it SUCKS. Doesn’t matter one bit if a couple of your short friends envy your height (they can just wear heels, problem solved), because you’re the one who has to live with always being stared at wherever you go, having it pointed out to you (people declare to you, “You’re tall!” as if tall person was unaware… Not even, “How tall are you?” but “You are SO tall!”) Most straight guys are intimidated as hell by a taller girl. I’ve been attracted to shorter guys before, but the insecure (almost resentful?) vibes I sometimes feel coming off them ruin it.

    Karlie is lucky that she also has a pretty face and a slim frame that she can keep slim through diet and exercise. Not all tall girls get to be models, just like we’re not all automatically basketball or volleyball prodigies. Being tall from birth was part of my social anxiety as a child. I hated being stared at so much that I had developed a problem maintaining eye contact and extreme stage fright. Finally pushed through it and now I strut down the street, head high, despite not being model thin. Just less afraid to take up space.

  31. RedWeatherTiger says:

    Kushner dudes always seem like they are smooth below the waist, like a Ken doll.

    • Kinsley says:

      Josh is SO MUCH feminine than his brother Jared!! Yeah, Karlie husband is so feminine that he makes Jared look manly compare to him!! 😂

  32. HMC says:

    Is he wearing highlighter? Maybe the couple that highlights together stays together?