The Windsors are ‘pissed off’ at the Sussexes’ ‘hypocrisy & double standards’

Meghan Duchess of Sussex, Prince Harry, Prince William, Catherine Duchess of Cambridge at the 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force, Buckingham Palace, London, UK on Tuesday 10th July 2018

In the immediate wake of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s Netflix deal, there was a flurry of salty commentary and high-pitched wailing from the British Isles. Everybody had an opinion and all of those opinions were hysterically unhinged. This week has felt different. It’s more like a lowkey rage about to boil over. We’ve heard that the “senior royals” worry that the Sussexes will pull focus from their important work. We’ve heard from Richard Kay that Prince Harry is “woefully out of touch” now, because he does NOT live in a palace or castle. And of course, we’ve heard that rage-monster Prince William is forever butthurt, always incandescent with rage, and reportedly “livid” about the Netflix deal… for REASONS! Reasons like The Crown! Well, those same sources must have chatted with Tom Sykes at the Daily Beast because we’ve got another story about the Windsors being absolutely furious at the Sussexes.

Conversations with well-informed British sources appeared to confirm that there is still a deep reservoir of anger and resentment on both sides, which has only been made worse by the Sussexes’ decision to collaborate with Netflix, described by one source with excellent contacts among the royal households as being “in bed with the enemy.”

The source, who is friendly with senior courtiers, told The Daily Beast that it was indeed accurate to say that William and Kate remain deeply upset not just by the initial parting of ways, but by the way that the couple continue to unilaterally make decisions which are construed as detrimental to the greater good of the royal family. The most egregious example of this for the royals, is, of course, the extraordinary deal with Netflix which the couple signed earlier this month (although Meghan’s increasingly political activism hasn’t escaped notice either).

The deal has however, still managed to reportedly rile the rest of the family, not least because the Queen was not consulted about the deal—and Netflix is best known behind palace walls for its series The Crown. As our source says: “They [the royal family] are furious. They are in bed with the enemy. Netflix uses the royal family to promote entertainment that has no foundation in fact. They also had no knowledge of the deal beforehand, and they are just very annoyed by the way Harry and Meghan are not abiding by the agreement that they made just a few months ago not to do anything that would embarrass the family. Once again, it was presented as a fait accompli so there is nothing further anyone can do. There is a feeling that their word cannot be trusted at the palace.

“People are mightily pissed off. Harry and Meghan seem to say, ‘Oh yes, we will agree to do things that way,’ then they completely ignore it and do as they please. It’s what they have done all along. They are extremely hypocritical. They are ace practitioners of the double standard.”

Another source with close links to the royals told The Daily Beast they were “nervously” awaiting series four of The Crown, which will start airing on Nov. 15, and will reportedly have a considerable focus on Princess Diana’s mental health and bulimia.

“I think there is a feeling that the portrayal of Prince Philip in particular has been very harsh,” said the source. “Harry really adores his grandfather so it does make you wonder why they would do this. It is fiction but there are a lot of people who think it is fact, and now Netflix have signed up Harry and Meghan it looks even more like fact to those people. It’s all very well for Harry and Meghan to say they have nothing to do with The Crown, but think about it from Netflix’s perspective; they must be rubbing their hands with glee.”

“I don’t think there is any hope of a rapprochement now,” the source said of the prospect of the brothers and their wives smoothing things over. “But I think it’s very clearly understood that this is Meghan’s deal. It is Meghan who has the contacts in that business to have made this happen. And if the marriage dissolved, my sense is that Harry would be welcomed back into the royal family with open arms.”

[From The Daily Beast]

Was it wrong to laugh at this entire piece? I giggled like a schoolgirl. The Sussexes gave up their HRHs, their “Sussex Royal” style and social media, the military titles and honors and they paid back the stupid renovation costs for that decrepit little cottage, all so they could go away and live in peace and make these kinds of deals. If the Windsors still wanted to exert any kind of control over H&M, maybe the Windsors should have taken them up on their offer to be half-in, half-out? But no, William wanted his popular brother and sister-in-law exiled, so that’s what happened. You reap what you sow. And again with blaming Meghan for everything, and talking wistfully about the “dream” of Harry abandoning his wife and child to come running back to his abusers in the press and royal family. These a–holes are so bitter and pathetic.

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Britain's Prince William and Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge speak to employers, at the London Bridge Jobcentre, in London

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  1. Noki says:

    Oh pleaseeee let Netflix continue with The Crown to modern day, i truly dont understand why they shouldnt. They have great material and better sources in the 21st century ,just from the Cambridges courtship and Finding Freedom alone.

    • Lizzie says:

      The Crown started with Liz and Phillip’s wedding. I wish it would go back to WW1, rebranding as Windsors and then catchup to the first episode.

    • CC says:

      Tbh, I think The Crown would not be fair towards Meghan (best case scenario would be that they blend the FF and BM narratives) since most palace sources are garbage and that they portrayed the duke/duchess of winsor rather positively.

      • Eleonora says:

        The Duke and Duchess of Windsor got okay portrayal in season 1, but in season 2 they definitely did not.

        Check episode 2.7 (I think it is) to see what I mean. It’s all about their connections with nazis past, and it was worse than I expected even

    • February-Pisces says:

      I really hope it doesn’t because I couldn’t bear to watch William and Kate’s ‘romance’ play out on screen as the greatest love story of all time. It’s suppose to end at 2003 so I really hope she doesn’t make an appearance cos Ma Middletons ego will go into overdrive.

      Plus Meghan and Harry’s story will only be told well in the future once all this has played out. They are villainized today but are in the right side of history.

  2. Izzy says:

    “In bed with the enemy?” WTF. The rest of the RF has ZERO problem taking advantage of their celebrity connections whenever it suits them. Nah, the real message of this article lies in the last line of that excerpt: ditch the Black woman and we’ll let you come home.

    • Kalana says:

      The Queen is head of the Church of England and her people are advocating for the end of a marriage. Nice values even by their own racist standards.

      • Lanie says:

        The Church of England exists because the Catholic Church wouldn’t let a king divorce his wife for his mistress.

        This is on brand for them.

      • Jaded says:

        Nice values indeed. Values that have been denigrated again and again and again. Mistresses, half royal secret children born out of wedlock, Charles and Diana, Andrew and Fergie not to mention Andrew’s dalliances with underage trafficked teenagers, Anne and her affairs, Prince Philip and his affairs, Values my arse. Values are merely show for the peons to keep them in line.

    • Regina Falangie says:

      Saying they’ll take him back if he ditches his wife and child has been a consistent and despicable message from the RF. They continue to show how disgusting and toxic they are. I hope H&M and sweet Archie stay far, far away from those horrible vipers.

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      The more the Sussexes turn their back on the monarchy, the more I respect them. Racist, sexist, based-on-bloodline institutions have no place in the modern world. If I had one complaint about Harry and Meghan, it was the way they said they will continue to support the Queen and the monarchy. Supporting outdated institutions is bad thing, not a good one.

  3. Britt says:

    The desperation, the anger, the frustration 😂 They’re not coming back y’all. Let the great Kate and Will focus on the monarchy and leave the Sussexes alone. The Windsors and media are morons because they refuse to let go. Attacking Meghan constantly is not going to bring him back. The Queen and monarchy has to worry about the commonwealth countries leaving and not a couple in Santa Barbara. Lord these people are idiots, lol. This honestly like sounds like a media contocted dream.

    • Meg says:

      But the sussexs are unpopular remember? No one cares about them as much as the woman who will be queen! Lmao

    • JAGirl says:

      They are soo mad that they got the Netflix deal. OMG, did they really believe H & M would simply fall away into obscurity? Lol, that’s crazy. I can’t wait to hear of their other deals because I know they have more things in store.

      And what is this constant obsession in trying to bully Harry back to England? ohhhh that’s right, the Royal family realizes that they are the irrelevant ones and nobody cares wat they do without either H and M or at least Harry. Karma!

      • Lady2Lazy says:

        @ Meg and JAGirl, you ladies are absolutely right!! Of course the Sussex team were supposed to fade into oblivion and not do a thing that would result in anything that would include success in any level. Yet, as we saw as H&M get married and she cake out of the gate running and was working while she was pregnant was looked down upon as it was clearly a signal that Kate is lazy and prefers to be lazy. As for Willileaks, he has always been jealous of Harry for the fact that Harry is charismatic, humble, and has a good soul that is every bit his mother, which Willileaks gained nothing from his mother even though he was older.
        If The Firm and the rest of the RR and think that for a second that Harry wasn’t able to do this without Meghan, they are certainly delusional in the sense that Harry has been working on philanthropic causes his entire adult life.
        As for Keen and Able, they can thank themselves as they were the ones that displayed in such an awful and disgusting manner at their last appearance in which Keen behaved as well as a two year old toddler.
        Now they have ALL made their proverbial bed and they can lay in it, thorns and all!!

    • Isabella says:

      Plus, according to FF, the Cambridges rarely visited the Sussexes. If Harry came back, he would be lonely indeed. I love how the royals don’t care if they see the biracial grandchild again. Leave him in America with his biracial mother.

  4. MonicaQ says:

    “But I think it’s very clearly understood that this is Meghan’s deal. It is Meghan who has the contacts in that business to have made this happen. And if the marriage dissolved, my sense is that Harry would be welcomed back into the royal family with open arms.”

    Do these people just envision that Harry is this giant baby who has no thoughts and ideas of his own? That he had no say in any of this? Come on. He’s an adult! They just big mad they can’t tell him (nor Meghan) what to do anymore and that they *have* to do it like they’re in school and have to raise their hands to go to the bathroom.

    They could open a dog rescue and the BM will write how they don’t have corgis in it so they hate the queen.

    • Jegede says:

      What staggering to me is how willing they are to announce to the world how much they hate Meghan.

      The whole diplomacy angle – even faking it to maintain peace – is jettisoned now.😶😶😶

      Every other royalty write up here – in both tabloids & the broadsheets – concludes on how Harry would be welcome back. Alone.

    • tcbc says:

      It’s also interesting because a common knock against Megan was that she was a C-lister cashing in on the royals. But now she’s connected enough to negotiate and sign a hundred million dollar deal, all by herself? Pick one!

      • Meg says:

        Exactly! Good point

      • Lizzie says:

        Lol. The Meghan haters are still calling her a grifter. Ffs. She made her own money before meeting Harry and she is making money with Harry. In no way is she the social climbing grifter like the lazy one.

      • fluffy_bunny says:

        Exactly. They can’t have it both ways. Figure out what works best for them and stick to one narrative.

      • Lemons says:

        Was just thinking that.
        Either way, someone in this couple is getting multimillion dollar deals and whether it’s from Meghan’s savvy or Harry’s royal cache, they are getting it done.

        This was the case before they quit royal life. So…what did they expect exactly?

      • Eugh says:

        Seriously! Harry is the one who knew the Obamas, Clooneys, Oprah first etc.

      • Poisonella says:

        Okay, I believe of the two of them Meghan is the smartest. Way smarter than him. Smarter than you imagine. I just hope the daily grind of negative press does not ruin their relationship. I do believe he would be lost.

    • Lizzie says:

      Let’s play along with this nonsense. Harry and Meghan have shown they rise above and do not smear anyone, so if they broke up it would dignified. And be real, Harry would not go back to the life he hated. He could live anywhere in the world and be welcomed but most likely would stay close to Archie.

    • Tealie says:

      @MonicaQ It’s the only think keeping them sane. Saying it is Meghan is the only wash that they don’t have to someone who grew up in the centre of the fold who saw every single facet and asset of its function cannot STAND it and would actually rather live in squalor than go back. It’s the only way they can escape accountability and blame the ‘outsider’. Life outside the fold is meant to be worse not better. One is meant to pine and find alluring mysticism to its being, not find it dull boring and not want to go back.

  5. HeatherC says:

    Yet both William and Charles (along with Harry) came out in support of Sir David Attenborough’s screening of “Our Planet.” Which was….wait for it….for Netflix. The Windors/Cambridges certainly left their pearls at home that day for there was no clutching going on, just preening for the cameras.

    And the superhaters on Twitter are blaming Harry and Meghan for promoting child pornography because Netflix also has “Cuties” on its platform (which isn’t child porn but don’t try to argue with them).

    Everything is Harry and Meghan’s fault, especially Meghan’s.

  6. Merricat says:

    “Netflix uses the royal family to promote entertainment that has no foundation in fact.” From a source speaking to the media about members of the royal family for the purpose of entertainment.

  7. Guest says:

    Lol. Wasn’t William supposed to do something with Netflix? Or was trying to do something with Netflix? Guess that didn’t happen. Oh well harry and meghan are on their own and succeeding. The royal family could have used them, but they decided not to.

    • lisa says:

      Itt was 3 part series about mental health, both Netflix, Amazon and Apple rejected his project. In the end BBC picked it up to save William face being embarrassed, They made it from 3 part into one.
      Celebrities don’t even want to work with him, which he has said it himself.

    • Chelsea says:

      Richard Anden(sp?) from the Dailyfail wrote last year soon after Harry’s doc with Oprah was announced that William was developing a doc for Netflix on conservation about his charity the Tusk Trust. Best part was he even mentioned that Harry, William, and Charles went to the premiere of Attenborough’s Netflix doc and talked up how it was such a huge success; mind you this was after The Crown had already aired through season 2.

      Funnily enough we’ve never hesrd anything about that Tusk doc since.

  8. Tashiro says:

    Another stupid article of made up crap. Everything in this piece sounds like high school s**t

  9. S808 says:

    I refuse to believe they’re mad about Netflix cause of the royal works there. That just seems so far fetched. They’d all jumped at the chance of a Netflix deal. They’re just furious H&M got it and got it within a year of leaving. “This is Meghan’s deal” like Harry’s name isn’t on the dotted line right next to her and doesn’t have projects in works 🤣🤣🤣 they BOTH have solo projects if it was just Meghan’s deal he wouldn’t have signed up. At what point are they going to stop acting like Meghan is driving the boat? At some point they have to realize that Harry wanted to leave, probably MORE than Meghan did. I feel like Tom is smarter than this, come on now lol. He doesn’t seem to care about staying in the good graces of the RF so I don’t get why he’s parroting this bullshit narrative.

    • Harla says:

      I agree S808, I used to enjoy reading Tom’s articles because he was more evenhanded, going so far as to say that the Cambridge’s could learn a lot from the Sussex’s. But I can only assume that his editors or the powers that be told him to fall in line, that only the Cambridge’s can get good press and that Meghan is the devil. I cancelled my subscription with DailyBeast and told them exactly why, they don’t get my $$ because of Tom.

    • Nyro says:

      I think Tom’s well connected in the aristo world and he’s just reporting what he’s hearing from the royals and their people. I believe it’s true and I’m glad he’s reporting this because it shows what racist bitter losers they all are.

      • S808 says:

        I totally forgot how close he is to the aristo was. Just remembered the article where he named his source about Prince Community Dick’s Affair. This means they’re either still underestimating Harry or they’re setting up some narrative in the event H&M get divorced. Maybe both. This also means they’re hoping and pray for a separation one way or another. Sick.

    • 809Matriarch says:

      I agree totally. Didn’t Harry just appear in a Netflix project he collaborated on? Rising Phoenix? Meghan had nothing to do with that. Meghan also had nothing to do with his collaboration with Bon Jovi for the Invictus choir single that dropped this year. The way they pick and choose what lie to tell is crazy.

    • Tealie says:

      Tom is just repeating what he has been told because it’s eye catching hoss. Unlike the RR’s I don’t think he really buys into it nor necessarily agrees. He and I can’t believe I’m saying this and the sage of British journalism has fallen so low , actually acts like a reporter directly reporting what he has heard with no extra snarky or otherwise opinion or aggressive emotive language that is meant to tell you what to think.

  10. Aurora says:

    I see they’re still setting the stage for Harry to be absolved and forgiven once he ditches the mother of his son. Aristocrats really do live in a bubble. They seem completely out of touch. The idea of relationships that are rooted in actual love rather than transactional is a foreign concept.

    • MF1 says:

      They absolutely are and that’s what they want him to do. They’re actually just outright saying it now: “And if the marriage dissolved, my sense is that Harry would be welcomed back into the royal family with open arms.”

      • 809Matriarch says:

        He would NEVER go back. He’s not stupid. He saw what happened to his mother and he kindly just attributes it to the press. But they should be under NO ILLUSION that Harry won’t blame is wicked family’s machinations if his marriage did dissolve. He has proven he can earn his own money away from England and would NEVER go back there.

    • Tealie says:

      That’s what they’ve been doing from the star, why do you think they always leave Harry out of it and paint him in almost tragic lost puppy and not the aggressor language. They are trying to normalise the event of him coming back and leaving his son.

    • Tealie says:

      @aurora Nothing wrong with her being a lowkey actress, but there is 100% something wrong with them trying to use it as a slur to debase her and infer she has no real worth, and that they made her and using it as a micro aggression her a prostituting Jezebel, which is you look at the semantics of what they say ‘selling themselves’, ‘in bed with’, ‘’highest bidder’ etc etc, it’s grotesque. Personally I think Meghan was very content in her lower key role and seemed to use it almost as a part time job (obviously an extra ordinary one since she made $50,000 an episode lol) but I think when suits ended she would have likely dove more into her blog and lifestyle brand, and obviously her UN etc advocacy moving into clothing etc, since we never saw her strive to get bigger roles and even smaller roles in other things.

    • NotSoSimpleTaylor says:

      That’s why I believe the Queen and Charles don’t really care what Harry does. I think they’re just annoyed at times he isn’t communicating. I think they’re just glad he’s happy on a personal level. I think William is the only one that’s throwing a fit and lashing out in the media. I think this is their way of forcing William to grow up.

  11. RoSco says:

    I love Megan but she was a B-list actress; why are they acting like an heir to the British Monarchy would have haplessly floundered without her connections?!? The US fame industry would have tripped over themselves offering Harry deals if that’s what he wanted.

    • Bettyrose says:

      Because of her conniving witchery that has Harry permanently under her spell. Any influence he had in these deals was at her command.

    • morrigan01 says:

      Exactly this. I love Meghan too, and there is nothing wrong with being on the B-list as an actor in the industry. But, no studios or streaming giants like Netflix were ever going to trip over themselves to give her a production deal like this unless she first proved herself by first starting a production company and producing a few things that were successful (with distribution of these projects done on an individual basis for each product). *Then* a deal like this might have happened for her.

      Whereas Harry? Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, said himself he’s known Harry for years. Harry already had some top-level connections before he ever met Meghan. Harry could have left the Royal Family on his own and snatched up a deal like this by himself. The industry would have, as you said, tripped over themselves offering lucrative deals to him.

      • MerryGirl says:

        I am so tired of this B-list/C-list actor bulls**t. By your logic, if all it takes is being “Royal” to get production deals, then why didn’t William who is of higher Royal rank not get the Netflix or Amazon deal he went after? Yes I fully agree that Harry gave her an enormous platform she would not have gotten on her own, but it is what she has to offer now that will open doors for her. The fact is, it is the projects they have done both individually and as a couple that has brought them to this point and TOGETHER, both of them are a force to be reckoned with. Having Royal titles alone without their hard work and passion would not have gotten them this deal.

        Also, in England Harry had the upper hand as Royal life is his wheelhouse but in America and in Hollywood and the Entertainment industry, Meghan has the upper hand. This is her home and this is what she knows. She grew up on a Hollywood set and learnt camera, lights and action from her father; she was married/in a relationship with a Hollywood Producer for 9 years so I’m sure she learnt a thing or two about production. And regardless of what class actress she was (B, C, D whatever), she has been an actress for more than a dozen years so she has first hand experience both in front and behind cameras. The here and now is they got the mega-deal, more opportunities will follow and they will be successful. End of.

      • Isabella says:

        Bravo, Merrygirl. I, too, am weary of the demeaning B actress thing. She was a successful actor who had grown up in the industry. She and Harry make a great team, which is why they got the Netflix deal.

      • morrigan01 says:

        Uh, MerryGirl, unlike you I actually know how the industry works having grown up around it most of my life, just like Meghan. (My dad also worked in it). What I said isn’t bullshit. ALL TV actors are considered B-list, unless they are on a game-changing TV series like The Sopranos. (Or somehow a big breakout start that starts doing movies as well). That is not a knock against Meghan or anyone else, that is the way it is, and how Hollywood ITSELF ranks actors and such.

        There was a time not too long ago in fact where, if you were a movie actor, you were advised to NEVER do TV. Because TV was considered a step DOWN from being a film actor. (Just Google what Natalie Portman herself has said about this very thing. At 14 she was told she was a movie actress and to *never* do TV. And she never has, except for SNL appearances, which is a different thing of course).

        Some of y’all need to stop looking at being called B-list as a slight. It’s not.

        Meghan’s dad was not an above the line person (look it up if you don’t know what “above the line” is). He was not a studio head, or a writer, director, etc. The doors he opened for her were limited, given that she went into the acting field in the industry and not cinematography like her dad.

        She would have never gotten a production deal just being an actress who was on the B-list. Production deals are NOT just given to anybody. She would have had to go the harder, longer route just like all actors who aren’t on the A-list but want to transition over to production. That is also just the way it is.

        The entertainment industry is NOT a meritocracy, and never has been.

        I mean come on, Meghan herself has written about how her biracial heritage made it hard for her to even get casted in things. You really think they would have just given her a production deal like this because she worked on a successful TV show for 7+ years. NO. If that was the case, there would be a HELLA lot more people just like her with production deals running around the industry, and there are NOT.

        You know why Harry would have been given one? Not only because he’s a prince, I never said that. But because he is also part of the 1% and spent over a decade or more forging relationships with people who are also in the 1% *including studio heads* like Bob Iger. Those doors opened for him because of how he was born, but he cultivated such relationships where they are now beneficial to him, and those people viewed working with him as an asset. (And did not/do not view his brother in the same way). Because so, he could very much have gotten this deal on his own, unlike Meghan who would have had to go a different route work for it.

        There is NOTHING wrong with acknowledging all of that, because that is the actual *reality* of it. Harry just had more advantages than Meghan in this regard. Individually, things would have gone the way I outlined. That was the point, and it was also calling out the absurdity of thinking Meghan *alone* got this Netflix deal and Harry had nothing to do with it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Who are these new names who keep coming on here and insisting 1) Meghan’s career wasn’t successful and 2) she has no history in the business so couldn’t get this deal on her own.

        See the Obamas, no history in the industry at all, their NetFlix deal, AND the Oscar nomination.

        Try again troll.

      • morrigan01 says:

        @notasugarhere Honey, I’m not a troll. I’ve been here when MORE trolls were here trying to talk smack about Meghan and was one of the early voices defending her, back before the wedding. I’m not new around here, and you can look that up. Fact.

        Harry and Meghan TOGETHER are like the Obamas. Mark Cuban himself called them the new young Obamas.

        But Meghan and/or Harry by themselves? Individually, having never met each other, fallen in love and gotten married? That is a *totally* different thing. Meghan by herself was NOT Michelle Obama. And Harry by himself wasn’t really Barack Obama either, especially given his privileged upbringing. The Obamas wouldn’t have gotten their Netflix deal if he had just stayed a state senator and never became President.

        No, Meghan could not have gotten a production deal like this on her own back before Harry came into her life. That is just a FACT of how the industry works. And trust me, Meghan knows that too. She would have had to work twice as hard to get such a deal from Netflix. Just look at the names of people who actually have multimillion dollar Netflix production deals outside of the Obamas, people who’ve worked in the industry like Meghan: Ryan Murphy. Shonda Rhimes. David Benioff and D.B. Weiss. All of them were writers and producers of big, mega-hit TV shows before they got deals. Yes, Meghan worked in the industry but never as a writer/producer, especially on that level. She would have had to start out small and work her way up to such a deal. That’s just how it goes. For everyone, not just her.

        People keep acting like it’s a slight towards Meghan to say this stuff. It. Is NOT. It, as I said before, is just the reality of how the industry is and how it works. Harry was just born more privileged than Meghan was. One of the things that went with that privileged upbringing was that it brought him in contact with some very high movers and shakers for years that he was able to cultivate relationships with – like the Obamas themselves in fact. *Harry* is the one who was close friends with them first, remember?

      • Focusing on Harry and Meghan’s Netflix deal and breathing is too distract from the following:

        *British media ran a disinformation campaign using racism, xenophobia and misogynoir against Harry and Meghan

        *The BRF senior leaders did nothing to counteract the campaign AND allowed their bureaucrats to cultivate a toxic hostile workplace

        How do William and Kate say they are mental health advocates when the world can see they did nothing to care about mental health within their own extended family?

        The details of how Harry and Meghan are running their post-senior royal lives are not as important as the fact the British media and monarchy colluded to harass Harry for not marrying a white woman like his grandmother and Meghan for not being a white woman like his grandmother.

    • Tealie says:

      @RoSco Nothing wrong with her being a lowkey actress, I would agree with you. But there is 100% something wrong with them trying to use it as a slur to debase and infer she had no real worth without them, using it as a micro aggression her a prostituting Jezebel, which if you look at the semantics of what they say ‘selling themselves’, ‘in bed with’, ‘’highest bidder’ etc, you can tell they really want to do, it’s grotesque and clearly very racially charged.

      Personally I think Meghan was very content in her low status and seemed to use it almost as a part time job (obviously an extraordinary one since she made $50,000 an episode lol) but I think when suits ended she would’ve likely dove more into her blog/ lifestyle brand, and advocacy since she had recently 2 years prior got the role of U.N. ambassador.

      • morrigan01 says:

        B-list really isn’t “low” though. It just means TV actor or “character” actor. Many such people still have a lot of fans and makes a lot of money. They are just not usually “above the title” names if they break into movies.

        Seriously, A-list and B-list are both nothing to sneeze at.

        C-list is for people who are “famous for being famous” like the Kardashians or Reality TV people.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Yes, Tealie. It is a constant refrain from the hater crowd. They keep trying to belittle her success in a field where 99 percent of people in the field can’t get employed in it. Whereas Kate never worked an honest day in her life, but don’t remind her new stans.

      • Likeyoucare says:

        Hey everyone no need to debase meghan as a low key actress who couldnt make a deal with netflix without harry. Look at tyler perry, who came from nothing and look at his succes now.
        Everyone need to start from somewhere and meghan is on her way up. Look up at her interview especially with Larry King. He really likes her.
        Meghan is in her way to make herself to become a celebrity who focusing on woman,she is on her way to make her own deal maybe as producer at netflix in her own time if she did not met or marry harry.

  12. Snuffles says:

    Translation: They were supposed to run all of their moves by us first so we could approve or disapprove and kill any deals if necessary!

    This tantrum is all about their loss of control of an asset. The loss of which was ENTIRELY their fault.

    And they are either in complete denial that Harry is just as much behind all of these decisions or they just want to blame Meghan for everything and try to get Harry back. Their constant need to infantilize this GROW MAN is one of the major reasons Harry dipped in the first place.

    • JT says:

      They’re trying to infantilize Harry liken they do with Kate. Unfortunately for them, Harry actually has substance and ambition.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate has agency, Kate has ambition. She has exerted nearly all her ambition for years to stalk and marry the future Prince of Wales. Then she directed that ambition towards trying to stay married to him with her pro-Kate leaks in the press whenever he was off with other women. Her ambition has recently been directed towards embiggening herself by attacking Meghan in the press, and continuing the ‘Mummy Kate vs. Wandering Willy’ PR to try to keep William from divorcing her.

      • JT says:

        @Nota I definitely believe Kate has ambition, but the press continue to downplay it. She has ambition in things that aren’t measurable and don’t matter, like chasing a man.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        JT they have always loved to push this ‘dim Harry’ storyline so his signing this lucrative deal does not play along with their story and they have to blame it on the witch who has got their Harry under a spell. He has shown that he is not only, not dim, but he is cunning and strategic too.

      • Ginger says:

        Harry is a hell of a lot smarter than they give him credit for. A lot.

        The press have to paint Harry as dumb because the heir always has to appear smarter. Listening to William speak you can tell he isn’t very intelligent. He likes to play that he is because he went to University.

      • Tealie says:

        @ Ginger I don’t think Williams likes to ‘play‘ that is but I truly think he thinks he is. He clearly has a very large ego and from what we have seen in the press, has been constantly surrounded by ‘yes-men’ and ‘wow’ men his whole life for doing the bare minimum. You know he thinks that everyone hangs on his every word because it’s so great, and I don’t think Harry was ever one of those men and certainly wasn’t when he cheated, which is what annoyed willie.

    • windyriver says:

      That, or they believe that Harry is, deep down, just like Will. Will is a controlling ass in his own right but I do believe he can and is sometimes being manipulated, and not just by Carole. He also has so little integrity I could see him, in Harry’s situation, dumping the wife and kid if really leaned on by the powers that be and returning to the RF.

      Gotta hand it to that all powerful Meghan – faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive (old Superman refrain)./sarcasm

      You’d think these folks would give it up when it’s clearly not working, but no, doubling down is the only way they know to go.

      I hope Diana is somewhere having a really good laugh over how pressed the Firm is over all this…

      • Tealie says:

        100% @windyriver they are ALL like this, and not even deep down, but on a surface level. Which is why they think they can draw him back through titles, ego aggrandisement and promises of yes-men and being ‘loved’ (a.k.a being the loyal scape goat lap dog) again. They are measuring Harry by their own piss poor standards, which would have seen them drop their families like hot pancakes and the mere mention of ‘military titles’.

    • Zazu says:

      EXACTLY. We hear nostalgia from the Cambridges about the great days of yore when Harry was William’s “sounding board”, and greatest supporter as Wills faced his awesome destiny. Read: Harry was never a whole person. He existed to serve others. They are furious and shocked that he’s rejected this role and literally can’t conceive of the fact that he has asserted himself. Instead it has to be Meghan. I imagine that it drives him crazy that they still think of him as a follower, doing whatever he is told.

      • Nic919 says:

        This is an excellent comment. They are mad that Harry just didn’t want to sit there and serve William. Harry has dimmed his light long enough and they pushed him out. This is all on them.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Harry was constantly used as William’s scapegoat. It has nothing to do with ‘sounding board’, it was simply that they used Harry to raise up William. As they tried to use attacks on Meghan to raise up Kate.

  13. ABritGuest says:

    I can’t with these people.

    First Meghan was a D list actress who nobody had heard of& now suddenly she does have connections which have driven this Netflix deal. They really go hard on this temptress who has led Harry astray and really want to absolve Harry of everything so they can welcome him back.

    Second the Firm rejected half in and half out& insisted on hard exit. Made them drop Sussex royal& not use HRH so it’s clear they weren’t representing the monarchy anymore because Sussexes were looking to do commercial deals & apparently there was no committee to oversee such deals. Now suddenly any deals require heads up to the Queen& approval etc. Strange. Why wasn’t this deal approval requirement reported until the Netflix news. Is that the same for Zara and Philip etc? Somehow I doubt it. If the Firm underestimated the Sussexes or didn’t negotiate certain terms they can’t get angry after the fact.

    Third the Firm have been briefing against Meghan especially & prohibiting her from defending herself. There was apparently a plan to send them to Africa. So how are they the ones to be so angry? Sure it’s sucks for them the plan didn’t work out with Harry leaving with Meghan and then moving to US. But maybe they should have listened to Harry about protecting his family. And also maybe they should have made plain consequences to Harry for marrying Meghan rather than pretending to go along with it and sparing a lot of pain.

    Finally how on Earth is Netflix the enemy? I think the point a poster made yesterday was right- the Crown has given them so much positive PR especially in earlier seasons. Whereas tabloids like the Sun, Mail etc have hacked phones, set up stings, leaked private conversations, mocked& dragged each royal. They were the ones who propelled the anger to the Queen after Diana died& basically ensured Harry& William were brought of private mourning. Yet the Firm doesn’t keep a professional distance from them and works closely with them. In fact they thanked the press during the pandemic & gave warmer birthday wishes to Arthur Edwards who took the see through skirt pictures of Diana and was on the scene of her accident, than to either Harry or Meghan.

    I think posters from yesterday were right. The Firm is concerned about this season’s portrayal of Diana& maybe public picking up on parallels with Meghan’s treatment etc. But no doubt it will be the press who will be drawing certain parallels where Kate is concerned with Rose digs etc

    • S808 says:

      “If the Firm underestimated the Sussexes or didn’t negotiate certain terms they can’t get angry after the fact.”

      I think both happened. In their eyes, forcing a hard exit and stripping them of their HRH on the way out should’ve torpedoed any success they’d have outside the monarchy. I think because of that assumption they didn’t negotiate a reviewing process for projects and deals H&M made during this “time out” period. Short term thinking again.

      • Snuffles says:


        They don’t know or want to know who Harry really is or what he is capable of. It’s as if they spent so long gaslighting the man they just ended up gaslighting themselves and believed the narrative they were spinning of fragile, unstable Harry who needed everyone’s guidance.

        They sure as hell underestimated Meghan. Probably convinced themselves that she was a gold digger after a luxurious life and titles like Kate was. Again, believing the BS they spun.

        The Firm clearly miscalculated their level of power and influence outside of the U.K. Thinking it’s their titles and perceived superiority as royals that is their main selling point and not the actual people. People loved Diana not because she was a Princess, but because of who she was. Being a Princess only put her name and face out there, but it is what she did with her position that made her so beloved. It’s the same for Harry and Meghan. Yes, being royals gave them an elevated profile but the rest is ALL THEM. Because if it was just about the titles, the world would be gaga over the rest of the family and giving them deals but they are clearly not.

      • Dilettante says:

        I think they really believed that H and M would fall on their faces, and then come grovelling back for some role within the Firm. Surprise!

    • sunny says:

      Your comments are so good. The hypocrisy and short sightened behaviour of the British royal family is quite something to observe. The underestimate Harry and Meghan at every turn and they continue to make themselves look ridiculous, petty, racist, and stupid.

      It is clear that they never really got the role Harry played in the public and in the family and really misunderstood that their asses had held little appeal outside Harry and the Queen themselves. No one is out here super excited to meet Princess Anne or Price Edward.

      They also clearly underestimated Meghan believing that they could drive her away or force herself to become some whipping boy for their bs. They didn’t get her appeal or her motivations at all.

      All of this has shown how insular and out of touch the monarchy truly is.

      • 809Matriarch says:

        They should have taken a good look at how she turned out after living in the orbit of the Markles. God forged a unique woman of steel and determination. She got her degree and worked her ass off in a variety of ways. She wasn’t just an actress, she was a calligrapher, a writer and a blogger. These people expect folks to fit in little cookie cutter boxes. Surprise surprise!

      • Tessa says:

        It’s absurd the way Meghan is called a gold digger. When she earned her own money and made a good income. And the two future Queen Consorts: Camilla, was married mistress to the Prince of Wales who showered her with jewelry and money and privileges Camilla never had to support herself and had a very brief job as a secretary. Kate had sporadic part time jobs, accepted lavish vacations from william and perks, and was supported by her parents and mostly waited for the phone to ring when Wiliam called. The nerve of those who Call Meghan a gold digger.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate is the only one who planned her entire adult life around catching William’s attention. If that isn’t the definition of gold digger then nothing is. I mean their meet cute story is that Kate decided to put on a see through skirt as a top at a fashion show to catch his attention. That’s the family version they sold to the peasants. Hey girls, put a see through outfit on to catch a rich man’s attention! That’s totally classy and prim and proper! Then spend the next decade not working so you can be there to meet his needs when he feels like it, but doesn’t want to put any real effort into it. That’s definitely the sign of a respectful relationship!

        If any women acted like mistresses prior to being wives, it was Kate and Camilla, not meghan who actually had a High laying career that she only quit weeks prior to the announcement of the engagement.

  14. Suzanne Hurley says:

    Wow! Meghan and Harry could single-handedly discover the cure for Covid and distribute it free around the world and the Brits would still find something to complain about. It’s so pathetic. I hope Harry and Meghan go on to make documentary after documentary about all the causes they support and care about.

  15. Alexandria says:

    Stay mad royals. Stay mad, hypocritical and dumb.


  16. Islandgirl says:

    Sorry…Netflix might be the enemy to the BRF (now) but the British tabloids were the enemy of Harry and Meghan and the BRF insisted that the relationship between them should continue. Further, the family and courtiers persisted in leaking horrible stories about Harry and Meghan to them.
    They took everything that they felt was important to Harry and Meghan and they still left and I am sure that while Harry and Meghan were hopeful they were willing to live with whatever the future might hold just to get away.
    The BRF on the other hand were hoping for failure and for Harry to return, alone because I am sure that they would have made that a condition.
    Harry and Meghan gave it all up and are now free to live their lives as they see fit.
    Continue to thrive and be happy Harry and Meghan.

  17. Sofia says:

    First of all, the Windsors shouldn’t complain about hypocrisy and double standards at all. Secondly, William attended the premiere of David Attenborough’s doc with Netflix. BBC commissioned a doc called “Reinventing the Royals” which was NOT sugary towards Charles AT ALL yet he still worked with them for his “Charles at 70″ doc and so have the other royals. Lastly, as I’ve said yesterday, The Crown is not going to be cruel towards the royals to level they’re expecting. Even with the Philip characterisation they’ve mentioned, yes they’ve probably toned up his whining (although it’s probably not too far off reality) but they’ve also heavily toned down his “off the cuff” comments. The only time he really got flack for it on the show was in the middle of season 3 and he was out of touch. Not racist.

    • Becks1 says:

      And they also ended up making Philip fairly sympathetic, in my mind. Yes, he’s portrayed as a cheating spoiled a-hole who is bothered by the fact that his wife outranks him, but they also provide context for that – how his naval career was cut off so abruptly, how his family was (the episode “pater familias” was really heartbreaking, IMO), how he felt like he had no purpose which was hard for him. I actually thought overall their portrayal of Philip was more sympathetic than their portrayal of the queen by the end of season 3.

      • Sofia says:

        I agree. The show has spent a lot of time on Philip’s story (even to the point where I don’t think it’s needed and takes away a potential plot from someone else) and trying to make him sympathetic and explain his actions. Even with the cheating, it’s never confirmed he did. It’s left up to the audience to decide. Now that could be due to potential fear of BRF pushback but considering the overall direction of Philip, I would say it’s not.

        And even with the other royals they’ve been pretty soft. The Duke of Windsor’s nazi connections were explored 1 season and a half in and he gets turned into a sad tragic romantic hero of sorts throughout the show. They’ve overly romanticised Charles and Camilla’s relationship. They made up the whole “Queen splits Margaret and Peter” when in reality, her and Eden came up with a plan that would allow Margaret to marry him, so Margaret gets some sympathy there.

      • Lauren says:

        Yeah, that whole idea that the Crown treats Philip harshly is ridiculous. It treats him very, very kindly. I mean, it shows he has rough edges, but those edges are smoothed down and their cause was never anything but a tragedy.

        Overall, the Crown is very sympathetic to the Royals, and there aren’t any real villains. It wouldn’t be so popular if it was just bashing the Royals non-stop.

      • CindyP says:

        Totally agree, “The Crown” portrayed him very sympathetically. Particularly loved the focus on his mother which was based in fact

    • February-Pisces says:

      I think Willie has some sort of wildlife doc on ITV coming soon. ITV the same channel that piers Morgan trashes Meghan on a daily basic, the same channel that eamon Holmes called her ‘uppity’. Every single day someone on that channel has harassed Meghan and Willie is doing a documentary with them, Kate also appeared on This Morning too. I can’t wait for that documentary to get sh*t ratings. I hope the heads at ITV realise that all the Meghan and harry bashing and colluding with KP was a waste of time, cos Willie just doesn’t drum up any interest and is a dud investment.

  18. Elena Rindell says:

    “And if the marriage dissolved, my sense is that Harry would be welcomed back into the royal family with open arms.

    Do these people even listen to themselves? They are actually advocating for the break-up of a marriage and family. I notice how they never even mention Archie. It’s like he doesn’t exist. They all want Harry and Meghan to break up because they know they are unstoppable together. If William and Kate are the future of the monarchy, why do they care what the “spare” is up to? Why not focus on those who will actually be on the throne?

    And it’s hilarious how they all now claim to hate The Crown when there was an article recently talking about how even the Queen loves the show. These people are truly disgusting.

    • Bettyrose says:

      Their ability to ignore Archie’s existence speaks volumes about the likelihood of other offspring out there who’ve never been acknowledged. Archie is forever part of the official family tree, but he can live in exile in L.A., out of sight and mind, while Harry and his English 2nd wife raise their two blonde children.

    • gm says:

      I agree. The thing is even if the marriage dissolves does anyone really think Harry’s going back to the royal family? I think he would continue to be the philanthropy setup they are doing now like the Obamas, he would just be doing it alone. I think even thinking things could go back to the way they were is really unlikely. Plus soon enough the royal family will have a new set of Harrys aka second/ third born children to deal with, they should be glad Archie will not be the new Eugenia/ Beatrice lobbying to be active paid royals.

      • Tealie says:

        Absolute not even if they begged, if it weren’t for Brexit, I could see him living somewhere in the EU, but I feel like he would stay in America or move to Zimbabwe/Mozambique

  19. Sunshine says:

    The royals sure are burning their bridges.

    • Lady D says:

      So blatantly too. It’s like they don’t think the whole world is watching.

    • Feeshalori says:

      They really are that stupid. They may try to pull a con job convincing themselves and their followers, but they can’t fool the rest of the world.

    • L4frimaire says:

      The behavior of the Royal family, particularly William,and their press mouthpieces are disgusting and embarrassing. What the hell is wrong with the UK and this unhinged grudge? These overwrought displays of emotional projection and pearl clutching, as well as basically saying we want Harry back alone, not married, is really undignified at best and completely viciously insane at worse. They didn’t freak out Iike this over signing the deal with the speaking agency because to them, that was something that would happen in the far future. With this deal and the amount of cash involved, as well as them buying that mansion, and paying back the Frogmore costs, it shows the Sussex mean serious business. It started as a slow burn with Meghan’s speaking appearance, started to ramp up when she began advocating voting, went really bad with the house purchase, and now totally exploded with Netflix. Notice how all this incandescent rage is attributable to William. That guy is a basket case and malcontent. Where is the so called statesmanlike behavior? He will begrudge and resent anything Harry and Meghan (especially Meghan) will do going forward, even if it’s them just out for a walk on the beach. Whatever Charles thinks, he’s more discrete in his pettiness. Can you imagine if they have another child? It will be Armageddon for the BRF. I hope the Sussexes do spectacularly well and build something powerful and meaningful for the next 25 years. Then retire and write a scorching memoir dragging all these fools.

      • MerryGirl says:

        @L4frimaire, YES to everything you’ve said. It’s like watching the Royal Family implode in real time.

      • Tealie says:

        Yes yes yes 100x over, if it looks insane now, it 10 years as the world gets more progressive and their sycophants die it’s gonna get worse!

  20. Kalana says:

    The BRF is the result of people not being told no often enough in their lives. It’s like they’re stuck on anger and can’t progress past it. Just play nice with Harry and Meghan instead of trying to squash and control them. The BRF would get more attention for their projects without the tension.

    • S808 says:

      Alll they had to do was play nice. They could’ve been eating off H&M’s popularity until the next generation became of age and the Cambridge kids took over as the main characters. H&M would’ve (maybe, probably) faded out as they got pushed further down the line.

      • Tealie says:

        Yup, the klanbridges could have elevated themselves by taking Meghan and Harry under their wing. Doing say joint engagements with the Sussex’s with Kate inviting Meghan to even one of hers e.g helping with the Chelsea garden show for a day and William doing the same as Harry, the public would’ve eaten that shit up, and they wouldn’t have completely Ostracised their racist fans. AND They would’ve attracted to younger fans with their perceived modernisation through this act by accepting the bi racial girl without actually having to say anything. (e.g the gesture of Charles walking Meghan down the isle.) but their egos were too big and petulant for their boots.

  21. Mumbles says:

    Actors from “The Crown”, I think Josh O’Connor was the latest, have commented that when they’ve come across royals, it’s clear they watch the show.

    ITV has been doing “Spitting Image” for years and that’s a lot harsher than “The Crown”, and it doesn’t stop the Royals for doing projects with ITV.

  22. Roserose says:

    That’s called projection.

  23. Kittylouise says:

    Don’t they even slightly realise how fucking unhinged, bitter and out of touch they are at this point?

    They didn’t let up on the racist treatment of Meghan, tried to rip them to shreds as a couple of modern royals and when they throw their hands up and leave the country to have a decent life on their own terms they STILL go after them like a pack of snarling dogs.

    Nobody stood up for a pregnant woman newly married into the family receiving all that hideous treatment. She was figuratively run out of the country. And now they keep on going as if the royals are the victims in all of this, using the most ridiculous of reasons.

    Down with the bloody monarchy indeed. The feeling of most (NORMAL!) English people is good on Meghan and Harry, go and be happy. I don’t know anyone who thinks remotely like the royal reporters and the DM commenters. Don’t those stupid old fossils realise that the more hysterical they are about them, the more support they are likely to get from the public? As people realise the poisonous spite they had to deal with within the royal family, and how it has increased since they left.

  24. JT says:

    So the RF wanted H&M to sit quietly for an entire year so they could spin it as “Harry and Meghan are failures”. The review was to determine if they would come back to the monarchy. I haven’t heard anything where it states that they couldn’t make any deals. What do they think financial independence means? The BM and RF are acting like Harry has to be convinced to take $100 million dollars. Lol. They have the Netflix deal now what? What more can they take from Harry? His title? I think H&M are already planning to drop it. In the Time 100 special they are referred to as Harry and Meghan. Those idiot royals are to dumb to see that H&M are the brand; they don’t need a title.

    • Tealie says:

      Basically, because we all knew that was the plan, and exactly why Charles publicly announced that he would help them if they were struggling. Instead of doing it discreetly, this year was meant to be ‘Charles the poor burdened father’. To further help rehabilitate his image.

  25. tee says:

    As I understand it, Tom Sykes is a little more trustworthy bc he’s not usually on the royal beat, but he’s know to have great sources? If so, this is utterly embarrassing for the RF. I can’t imagine a neutral/indifferent party reading this and not coming away with the idea that the RF is pathetically trying to wield power that they no longer have, and that on top of being extremely envious, they’re petty as hell. They need to get over it like they said they had months ago (when they could claim that H&M were miserable and unemployed).

  26. Kittylouise says:

    And as for Frogmore. Making them pay back £2 million quid for that shitty house (I think the writing was on the wall when that was the house they were allocated, an old admin block in the grounds of Windsor of all places, as if they couldn’t find them an apartment in any of the London royal palaces. Ridiculous).

    And I’m sure the fat old Duke of York has had more than £2 million worth of renovations in Royal Lodge. But that’s clearly acceptable.

    • notasugarhere says:

      They were offered the Gloucester’s Apartment 1 at Kensington Palace. It would not be ready before their son was born AND it was in London right next to W&K. They chose Frogmore Cottage, because it could be ready in time and (potentially) because they didn’t want to live anywhere near W&K.

      The information about Andrew and Edward’s leases of Crown Estate property are public record. You can see how much the CE paid vs. Andrew and Edward and what they paid for their pre-paid leases that are decades long.

      The Frogmore Cottage situation? We never got information about an official, legal lease. It was all done very strangely. The York and Wessex descendants legally inherit the leases for Royal Lodge and Bagshot. We have no info on whether or not any Sussex offspring will inherit a lease on Frogmore Cottage.

      • Tealie says:

        It’s not just next door to Will and Kates, but it actually has an adjoining door that can connect the two apartments 🤮🤮🤮. Can you imagine the fucking hell and the things they would’ve done to them at the peak of it all?? I wouldn’t put it past them to sneak and steal/leak the Sussex’s confidential stuff and bug their apartment. I wouldn’t feel comfortable to just talk and relax in my own home let alone sleep at night!

      • notasugarhere says:

        I expect W&K to lay claim to the now-refurbished Apartment 1, waste millions redecorating it, and using it to house the army of nannies. And Carole.

  27. February-Pisces says:

    It’s not a good idea for the royals to start slandering The Crown, there are still 3 more seasons to come, so I wouldn’t go trashing them now or they might just have to do a re-write for next season. Not the mention the first 2 seasons weren’t the royals raving about how they’ve watched it and how good it is.

    Seriously Willie is so ‘incandescent with rage’ that he got rejected by Netflix and his younger brother who was suppose to play the supporting role of ‘screw up, party Prince who couldn’t find love”, has been handed hundreds of millions of dollars. Ouch.

    Also I see Tom Sykes has either been forgiven (unlikely), or KP demanded he trash harry and Meghan or else.

    • Sunshine says:

      February I don’t think this trashes Harry and Meghan at all. On the contrary, it makes the royals sound dumb, petty and up their arses. Sort of like that CEO piece.

      • February-Pisces says:

        Unfortunately the royal family don’t even see that. That every trash piece only strengthens harry and Meghans case that they were bullied out of the country by the family themselves.

    • Tealie says:

      I don’t think it’s either, Tom just repeats it how it is. Note how he never really embedded or gives a direct view of his opinion and rather just states EXACTLY what the person said, and where they said it. I don’t think he agrees 100% with the Sussex’s but I think he finds the royal leaks as clownish and as pantomime as we do. He never ‘backs’ up or e,Borden’s their opinions.

  28. Becks1 says:

    First, I think many people don’t think of the Crown when they think of Netflix. I know its one of their more successful shows, but it certainly appeals to a certain group. Netflix has so much content that I don’t think it can be defined by one show.

    Second – this person sounds unhinged. “We want control over Harry and Meghan! We’ll take Harry back but only without Meghan! How dare they earn their own money!”

    As time goes one, the criticisms against them start to just fall apart – make your own money (okay, they are), pay back Frogmore (okay, they did), stop taking Charles’s money (okay, they aren’t), buy your own house and stop living in Millionaire Tyler Perry’s Mansion (okay, they did and they aren’t.)

    Going along with what we were saying in the Vogue post about Kate – these criticisms may still reach some people in the UK and I do know some older people here in the US (hardcore Diana fans) for whom they carry weight, but the vast majority of Americans I know just don’t care about that stuff – one of the reasons H&M’s events get so much coverage here in the US is because to the extent people think about them, they like them. And it makes the BM look that much more unhinged as time goes on. See: David Simon and his twitter war with Piers Morgan. He even said that he didn’t really care about Meghan and didn’t know her, but she had a right to tell people to vote and Piers Morgan could jump off a cliff. And I think that’s how a lot of people here feel.

    So the more the Cambridges try to push themselves into the US media, the more its going to be “but what are you actually doing?”

    And its rich to talk about embarrassing the monarchy when Andrew is right there in Windsor.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Next the demands will be 1) give up the Sussex title completely 2) give up Harry’s prince title 3) give up any claim on HRHs 4) remove yourself and your line from the succession.

      The first three? Harry and Meghan are choosing not to use any of them. The haters want them legally stripped of those titles and HRH for all eternity.

      • Becks1 says:

        And the more they rail about the Sussex title, the stupider they look, bc Harry and Meghan are household names now. Just Harry and Meghan. (I did read one twitter article that mentioned “Meghan, Duchess of Sussex and her husband” LOL poor Harry, William would flip.)

      • Snuffles says:

        The sad thing is that I am 100% sure Harry has anticipated and planned for all of these possibilities. He knows what his family is capable of.

      • Kalana says:

        I think they want to do all this but can’t without affecting Andrew. Beatrice and Eugenie and the Queen won’t let that happen. Charles would do it if he could.

      • JT says:

        @Nota I think H&M are already in the process of abandoning their title. In the upcoming Time special they are referred to as Harry and Meghan. Just like at the Travylst conference Harry wanted to be called “just Harry”. I think they are slowly getting the public used to “Harry and Meghan” the brand. So far their work been able to anticipate and plan for the criticisms. When the review comes I think they will formally ditch using the titles.

      • notasugarhere says:

        They’re already not using them, have agreed not to use HRH or the titles in their work. The haters want them legally stripped of those titles, instead of them having the option to choose not to use titles they get to keep. That’s the difference.

    • Tealie says:

      Netflix has 6460 shows, they are just attention seekers.

  29. Mich says:

    William: I own you Harry. I will make your life a living hell by helping the media torture and smear your pregnant wife. I will add to her humiliation with stunts like taking a highly staged budget flight. I will leak every detail of your existence and sabotage you at every turn. And there is nothing you can do about it! I will be King one day!

    Courtiers: We also own you Harry! We don’t like your choice of wife so we will do everything we can to break her and drive her away! And there is nothing you can do about it! Bwahahahahaha!

    PoW and the Queen: We also own you Harry! Literally. And there is nothing you can do about it. Bow. Kneel. Scrape. We. Own. You.

    Harry: Nope. This is my life and I’m going to live it.

    William, courtiers, the media: How dare you! We own you! And you need to be a team player! Sputter. Sputter. Sputter.

    • HeatherC says:

      You forgot one component.

      William, Courtiers, Charles, Elizabeth: We own you and we will do what we want with you and you will enjoy it! You will smile and dance on command and be the shiny thing to distract from the dark things and you will enjoy every moment of it because we own you.

      Harry: Sure. ::eyeroll::

      William, Courtiers, Charles, Elizabeth: You need to explain the rules to that wife of yours

      Harry: Sure ::eyeroll::

      Meanwhile, off screen, Harry has been preparing for life outside the monarchy with his wife and child, in America, with the base laid to support themselves.

      Note to self, employ Michael Bay and his team for the next scene.

      William, Courtiers, Charles, Elizabeth, British media: Heads explode.

    • BnLurkN4eva says:

      Yeah, pretty much this is exactly what went down.

  30. bonobochick says:

    I thought they still have their HRH status but choose not to use HRH titles, not that they gave them up.

    • BnLurkN4eva says:

      They are not allowed to use it and they agreed to not use it, but they do still technically have it. Given they agreed not to use it, it’s fair to say they gave it up.

      • notasugarhere says:

        No, they still have the ability to use those titles when they do work for the monarch. So whenever they are in the UK, doing promotional work for their charities? They get to be referred to and addressed as HRH Duke and Duchess of Sussex. It is only in their private endeavours that they have chosen not to use their HRH and titles.

    • Shirley Gail says:

      They do still have their HRH status (it would take an act of parliament to remove and would open a gigantic can of worms)
      They were TOLD (different from a choice) they could not use the title for financial gain.
      H&M have not used “prince” nor have they used HRH to make money
      More and more they (H&M so this is where their choice lies) are even dropping Harry’s ‘prince’ title
      They are growin their brand as: (wait for it…….) simply
      Imagine that, eh ~

      • MsIam says:

        I think that is so badass of them, especially Harry who was born into the life. Compare that to Princess Michael or even Lady Colin Campbell who are milking their royal/aristo connections for all they are worth. And can’t forget the lovely Fergie. Harry has it all over them and he’s like fine, I’ll just be Harry. Love it!

      • Isabella says:

        Sonny & Cher don’t need last names. Nor does Beyonce.

      • NotSoSimpleTaylor says:

        I feel like they should have a last name except I don’t want it to be Windsor. I want them to prove they are popular no matter what and nothing the BRF can do will stop that.

      • A says:

        I KNOW right. Like, no one talks about how Prince (and Princess) Michael both profit off their royal connections and status all the damn time. Neither one of them would have gotten their books published if they didn’t.

        And Lady Colin Campbell is the biggest hanger on of all time. Truly. But this stuff gives you an insight into why they think stripping Harry and Meghan of their privileges and titles is actually a suitable punishment. Because this stuff matters deeply to them, so they think it matters to everyone else too, and they can’t comprehend that it actually doesn’t.

  31. MaryContrary says:

    Eye roll. The hypocrisy of the BRF and the press are on full display here.

  32. Jay says:

    Yikes this is a bad look for the royals – can’t they just do what the rest of us do with our exes who have moved on – “I’m sure they’ll be VERY happy together” through gritted teeth and seethe privately, for goodness ske.!

  33. MF1 says:

    I find the outrage around Netflix and the Crown to be eyerolling-ly ridiculous. Like, if you don’t want to be portrayed poorly on film & TV, then maybe don’t be giant flaming assholes to the women married in to your family?

  34. Meg says:

    “If the marriage dissolved, my sense is that Harry would be welcomed back into the royal family with open arms.”
    My god could they be any more transparent? How do you think harry would respond to this? Shes the mother of their child! Oh yeah guys im totally coming back now!

    • MsIam says:

      More Harry is miserable and unhappy drivel. He really wants to come back and cut ribbons and be keen about everything while actually doing nothing of substance. The Royals are way worse than the Markles because they have more reach but the hurtful motivation is the same.

  35. BnLurkN4eva says:

    If the BRF, the BM and royal watchers like us were actually paying closer attention to Harry we would have realized that they (BRF and BM) wouldn’t be able to get away with all they’ve gotten away with forever. He was always planning his escape from the life of Margaret and Andrew, which was his future had he stayed. He first needed the right wife, someone who would love HIM and not his title, someone ambitious, who wasn’t enthralled by the whole notion of royalty and viewed it more as a means to an end. Finally, someone who was willing to take the hits and keep on ticking. Entered Meghan and the rest was actually predictable if we had been paying closer attention to who Harry is. I remember in an interview Harry saying it was difficult to find the right person, someone he wanted to married, who wanted to take it on. His challenge was always someone he could love, who would love him and willing to deal with all that the job entails including the insane media intrusion. He’s not giving up his family for the royals, or Britain so they are wasting their time with all these unhinged attacks.

  36. Margareth says:

    LMAOin that pic of Kate’s profile, you can clearly see that she had some work done on her face.

  37. Loretta says:

    Poor Royal Family, they really believed that Harry and Meghan wouldn’t be successfull otside the family. They are pressed and in a huge meltdown.

  38. Lizzie says:

    I think the real frustration, anger and rage are the entire firms lack of power or influence. Ostracize Harry and Megan, fail. LOL, the attempt has actually seen them skyrocket personally and professional. Shun Rose, also fail. Apparently the toff’s lined up right behind Rose and spilled their tea to Tatler.
    To be blunt they are losers, while Harry and Meghan (and Rose) are winners.

    • Lizzie says:

      Also losers, Kate’s patronage’s and brands she wears. DM has an article that Kate’s favorite handbag store is closing its UK stand-alone stores. Still popular in the UAE, just not where Kate lives.
      They need a better plan than crying over Harry and Meghans success to wash off the smell of losers.

  39. Harper says:

    So all this sturm and drang about the Crown and it hasn’t even aired yet! This is reminiscent of the nervous breakdowns the British press did pre-Finding Freedom. Prepare for a season of the tabs yelling at H&M for Netflix disrespecting the Queen every time a new episode airs and the Queen is emotionally cold and unsympathetic to Diana. I predict they will be demanding Harry return the monies made at the expense of the Queen’s, Philip’s and Charles’ reputations. It will be a whole new angle from which to launch their cries that they be stripped of their titles and disinherited.

  40. aquarius64 says:

    Finding Freedom really did damage to the BRF. The Windsors are afraid the Netflix deal gives the Sussexes a bigger platform to air family dirty laundry. (I bet the Markles are afraid of that too; Netflix has a bigger reach than the British tabloids and Netflix will bring receipts and fact check them.) BM is afraid they’ll get dragged on a global scale too).

    • morrigan01 says:

      The Markles have been awfully quiet, has anyone noticed? The Sperm Doner was threatening to go on TV once and month until Meghan would talk to him, just at the beginning of the year or so, everyone remember that? What happened to that threat?

      I guess now that Meghan isn’t in the UK anymore threatening her with continuous TV interviews isn’t going to work when the American networks won’t touch you with a 10 foot pole. Even the syndicated tabloid shows seem to know you’re all full of it. And I’m guessing The Other Daughter’s book deal was never really a thing either. At least, no American publishing company is looking to make such a deal. Better have that shit self-published if it’s ever going to be written at all.

      So Markles, I guess it’s clear you’ve served your purpose, though not in the way the UK tabs (and likely some people at KP) wanted you to. Meghan left, but Harry left with her, which was never part of the plan. Now they’ve got a years long multimillion dollar Netflix deal and you’ve got your blood money, but no more use for the people who used you. Hope you don’t spend all that blood money in one place. (Who am I kidding, you probably already have).

      • HeatherC says:

        The other daughter is still bleating on about her “book” being released “soon” behind her private account.

      • Lady D says:

        She made her account private? So they can be taught.

      • MsIam says:

        I’m guessing it’s because Sperm Donor may still testify? If he’s out there giving on the record interviews then there is a chance he could say something damaging to the case. So they need him to be quiet. I’m sure he will pop up after it’s all over to bleat about Meghan “cheapening “ the royal family with her $100 million Netflix deal. And I doubt if Scammy will publish anything, once it’s out their she can be sued for libel. What publisher would risk that?

      • 809Matriarch says:

        @Morrigano1: Covid-19 happened to that threat. Finally the UK press had something else to talk about. By the time Covid-19 had been talked about enough to focus some more smearing on the Sussex family, H&M had flown the coop, bought a home, secured financial freedom and paid off Frogmore cottage. Hope Mr. Markle/Judas saved his coins bc his usefulness is over.

      • Tealie says:

        They definitely already have, they are cheap lowlife trash, I’d be suprised if they hadn’t spent it all on lottery tickets by now lol. And no I make no excuses for my language. I don’t think they are worth the shit out my ass.

    • Lanie says:

      What really scares the Windsor’s and the Markles is that they won’t be brought up at all. Because they are irrelevant in Harry and Meghan’s successes. They are fine without ever speaking of them again.

    • Tealie says:

      Yep your right the impact of Netflix documentaries is huge, they have even helped people get free from prison and started whole new enquiries into cases lmaoo! The Sussex’s better do it, or i will… somehow lol!

  41. Sunday says:

    Netflix is also the streaming service on which the documentary Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich can be found, which features Virginia Guiffre and mentions Prince Andrew… but I’m sure the brf’s (unwarranted, ridiculous, and hilarious) anger is totally just about The Crown.

    Also, definitely not the point, but do Brits say “pissed off” as in angry? To my knowledge “pissed” means drunk and is not typically used by British people in the manner that’s quoted here. Is there an American in house Cambridge that might’ve sourced this?

  42. Nina says:

    Kt’s Thé riyal family behind this.
    The family that works on a daily basis with all the racists who chased harry’s Wife and tried to make her life miserable during years.
    If Harry and Meghan wanted to destroy they would have done it in 5 second.
    By giving the names of the racists and jealous Windsors lézards who did everything to ruin Meghan by the hands of their Courtiers

    For so cold Anglican the royal family is very pro divorce when one of its members marries a black woman.

    • lanne says:

      The good thing is that Harry and Meghan still have the truth of what happened to them in their arsenal. I can imagine Harry not wanting to go nuclear as his mother did, and have those comparisons made, but I’ll bet if their backs are pushed against the wall, they will do it. Imagine a sit down interview of the two of them with Oprah. It.Will.Be.Lit. Global audience of billions tuning in. Every network on earth would pay 9 figures for that interview alone. I imagine Harry’s saying “back the F off, or we play hardball.” The fact that they haven’t done it yet means they don’t really want to. They are smart; they know it’s better not to burn bridges if they don’t have to. Hopefully they will be able to let their work in their new life speak for itself. What I don’t understand is how those fools over at Crackhead Central (aka the royal palaces) don’t see that. The best thing the royals can do right now is offer an anodyne “We wish the Sussexes the best and we’re eager to see what happens in this next phase of their lives. But look at what WE’RE doing now…”. Why does no one over there see that? The more they bitch and moan, the more they INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE SUSSEXES!!! William and Charles need to call off their media dogs and stop covering the Sussexes at all. Let things cool down, let things be. Then perhaps, they could build a raprochment that benefits everyone.

      But all of these articles just furthers the interest in the Sussexes in a way that can only diminish the royals. Any courtier who doesn’t realize this should be fired on the spot. Put ole Betty out to pasture, put William in time out, and step forth and lead, Charles!

      • Edna says:

        You are so right. Those idiots keep swatting at the hornet’s nest, just waiting to be stung. I for one would pay BIG MONEY to watch Harry do a tell all.

      • Harper says:

        Harry and Meghan aren’t going nuclear because they honestly don’t want to cause pain with their words or actions. This is who they are, and this is why they are beloved. Their goodwill shines through in their words and expressions, and the Royal adjacents don’t get it, don’t have the same goodwill, and are out for revenge.

      • Dl says:

        Crackhead Central?!!! I am literally dying!!! Love it!!

    • 809Matriarch says:

      Sometimes I think they are really just to good and sweet. In FF Meghan held the palace back from saying things that could have been said about her sperm donor. She didn’t want him dragged – even though he was happy to drag her for $$$/£££.

      But yeah, Harry can only be pushed so far. I am sure he saw and read that God awful mindless rant where PM on GMB railed for Harry to return from his “woke hell” (Harry doesn’t look like he’s in Hell to me), and play “naked billiards”, marry a “dim blonde” THIS ONE JUST MAKES ME LIVID. How ITV could allow this to be said on the air about a Prince of the “blood” and the racist nasty malicious disrespect for his wife is outrageous. This is why Harry would NEVER go back. The RF and the Queen are just beyond disgusting! They are complicit.

  43. paddingtonjr says:

    If this is how the BRF acts for the public to see, I don’t want to imagine what H&M had to live through in private. Harry and Meghan, keep living your best lives. Those who spew this hatred will destroy themselves.

  44. morrigan01 says:

    This people really are mad about this, especially the part about not telling The Queen about it. Because this kinda reminds me of the asinine talk when Meghan guest edited UK Vogue and there was talk of people being mad that The Queen wasn’t included as one of the game changers on the list. Cut to this year and the courtiers and whomever else twisting EE’s arm to put The Queen in the September 2020 issue and him giving that interview about Meghan not playing by “the rules” or whatever.

    They really DO think the world revolves around The Queen and that H&Ms world should revolve around her too. That is how myopic their thinking over there is. There is a difference between respecting someone and having your world revolve around them. Haters love to call Meghan narcissistic, but I don’t see her thinking everyone in that family has to tell her about their every move in their lives, or being mad that they weren’t included in a magazine. The way these people talk make not just The Queen but that whole family look like raging narcissist that Harry and Meghan were lucky to escape from.

  45. L4frimaire says:

    I honestly think some of this churn is just for the newspaper’s to keep up their clicks. Since this deal was announced, what has actually happened? It’s not like the airwaves are being bombarded with Sussex productions dragging the royals and calling them out. This William rage cycle has nothing to do with a tv show that has been in production for several years and has everything to do with the Sussexes and the money of their recent deal. If the British Royal family are so upset about the Crown after 3 seasons, they can send a protest directly to the producers of the show. This is all about the fact that they thought Harry and Meghan would just couch surf for the next year and Zoom in every once in a while. They never expected them to actually do anything or network because they think everything centers around them. If anyone think they are really modern just because they have internet and the trappings of modernity, they are sadly mistaken. They think they are the Sun Kung, not the inept duds that they actually are. This is still an institution run on the whims and temperaments of the lazy and weak heirs,and the machinations of courtiers. They really need to shut up about Meghan and a Harry.

    • 809Matriarch says:

      I think so too! I went to read the article myself and it was under a paywall for “premium” subscribers or something. Pfft.

    • MsIam says:

      I bet they are going koo koo over the Time100 thing! Didn’t Katie “know-nothing” Nicholl just say that Harry and the queen Zoom regularly and the queen loves to see Archie over Zoom? So if that is true, it’s hard to believe that Netflix or anything else wouldn’t have come up. Know-nothing even claimed that William and Harry are talking. So these reporters need to get their facts (lies) straight.

  46. Nyro says:

    I wish nothing but misery and failure on the royals. This continual dismissal and erasure of Meghan and Archie, Harry’s wife and child, is particularly disgusting to me. Like I said, they want the two of them gone and if that means their deaths and a broken and shattered Harry, so be it.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Oh yes the efforts to write them out are creepy as hell

      • Nyro says:

        It’s downright sinister. This is a family who have, for centuries, “gotten rid of” family member who they view as a problem and a threat. I don’t find idea that they desire to see Meghan and Archie six feet under to be implausible at all.

    • Tealie says:

      Me too, may nothing but hardship, suffering and pain line their walls and the rest of their lives.

  47. MerlinsMom1018 says:

    I have never ever seen one episode of The Crown. I have Netflix, but I usually just watch something that catches my eye as I’m scrolling.
    I am interested in seeing what H&M do for the channel. I am guessing mostly documentaries? Maybe some special projects designed to bring awareness to certain causes?
    In a perfect world H&M would buy their own tv station and REALLY go dark and scorch earth the RF. Expose those secrets! Never happen because H&M strike me as fundamentally nice people (which I am not) but wouldn’t that be a hoot????

    • Myra says:

      When I saw reviews that The Crown painted them in a positive light, I skipped it despite the rave reviews it received. When reviews came in that S3 paints the family, but mostly the queen in a more negative light, I watched S3, and S3 only. I will wait for the reviews to decide whether I will watch the upcoming season just because I don’t intend to watch propaganda.

  48. Edna says:

    😂😂😂😂 Those people are crazy. They’re all up in their feelings cause their grand plan didn’t work out. They all thought by taking away everything that was allegedly important (HRH, SussexRoyal, etc) and running a non-stop hate campaign designed to make H&M so toxic no one would want to do business with them, it would break the Sussexes. And after a year of no business deals, bad press and facing total humiliation, H&M would be broken and come begging to be let back in the Royal fold….finally learning their lesson and assuming their place as Royal scapegoats. But as others have said, BRF, courtiers and BM seriously underestimated and didn’t know who they were dealing with. They can all stay pressed and continue to show the world just how unhinges they all are. Praying Harry and Meghan continue to live their best lives.

  49. ABritGuest says:

    I think JT is right. Maybe the Firm envisaged this year as the Sussexes licking their wounds with Harry coming back to his senses & returning to royal duties. They don’t seem to have envisaged them actually making moves to be independent especially when pandemic hit

    think that’s why there were reports on how the rest of the royals were having a ‘good pandemic’ whereas the Sussexes’ plans had been derailed& they were struggling. Meanwhile not only did they volunteer, keep up with their patronages, made some donations, do zoom appearances& provoke discussions, they closed a production deal and bought a house. Clearly some in the Firm and press are unhappy narrative has been derailed& sense of control lost

    It’s silly to act like Harry is just Meghan’s lapdog in this. He had the Apple doc with Oprah announced last year when still doing royal duties. He’s already participated in many documentaries. He did US network interviews when Invictus was in Florida& had stars of Fury (like Brad Pitt) doing some Invictus promo. He’s probably built some decent connections through his work same as Meghan. Plus the Netflix guy said on camera in January he would want to work with them. So it’s odd this has all come as a surprise to the Firm& their press pals.

    The concern around the Crown is silly too as I remember a post here saying Charles was portrayed quite sympathetically this season& the Queen was certainly in season 1 and 2. I remember some articles even saying someone like Anne had resurgence of popularity because of her portrayal in the Crown. And you best believe any future dramatisation of Meghan won’t be half as sympathetic to her.

    • JT says:

      You spelled it out far better than I did. The RF thought the review meant they would hold off on work for a year. If they had been paying attention to Harry over the years, and Meghan pre-royal, they would have noticed that these are not the type of people who will sit on their asses. It’s funny because they absolutely could do fuck all with themselves if they wanted to. They both have money, the don’t need to volunteer anymore like when they were royals, they didn’t need to start a foundation either. They just enjoy working and philanthropy.

  50. Vanessa says:

    I Honestly Believe that the royal family thought that there was no way Meghan and Harry would succeed so fast in American they become financial independent within a few months. All the courtiers and the British tabloids had to complain about was Frogmore and the Sussex’s payed that off quickly I think the royal family told the Sussex’s that could pay back little by little so that when the royals reporters would have something to attack the Sussex’s with . I think the Cambridge’s wanted global attention having the UK press kiss their ass and talk them up all times is not a enough for them they wanted the American media attention on them too that’s why we are all suddenly having articles about kate and her family. It’s incredibly to see how the royal family has been acting over Harry choosing to be his own person it’s like the royal family and reporters only love Harry when it benefits them they were only thick as thieves as long as Harry continue to play his part being a there for Kate so she can have someone to flirty with and appears like the woman every man wants and the only woman in the two princes life . There for William so Harry can be throw under the bus and mocked under the guises of him just being a big brother it’s clearly that the royal family doesn’t truly love Harry they only love him when he follows their rules .

  51. Emily says:

    You know, worst case scenario, Harry and Meghan divorce somewhere along the line just like the British media hope. Who is to say Harry will go running back to the UK? My guess is if that happens and if Archie is still young, no doubt Meghan will stay in the US and so will Archie. If that’s the case, Harry will likely stay in the US to help co-parent his son/any possible other future children with occasional side trips to the UK for duties to his charities and maybe to see some family members he’s not on the outs with (not his brother, clearly). If that happens, my guess is Harry will be comfortable to stay in the US on a permanent basis. At least until his children are grown. I mean, who knows, maybe someday Meghan and Harry will return to the UK, nobody can predict the future.

    • MsIam says:

      Exactly, just like Autumn Phillips is staying in the U.K. instead of moving back to Canada. Either Harry will stay here or Meghan would move back to the U.K. so they could all be near each other. But I can’t see Harry coming back unless he has a defined role other than “spare”. And what other role could they give him? So he’s gone, even if he did move back to the U.K. The minute they started Archewell he was gone.

  52. Lizzie says:

    It’s pretty rich to say the only royals not allowed to make their own money and still represent the queen have the benefit of a double standard.
    One of those hideous courtiers said Harry and Meghan were naive but HE had an old Hollywood friend who once told him blah blah blah. OMG. Like his friend from 1950 knows more about Hollywood wheeling and dealing than the agency that Harry and Meghan signed with. But I think those dinosaurs really believe, and convinced the royal family, they know best about everything and that Harry and Meghan would be taken advantage of and fail without their guidance. The self delusion is epic. They are long past their ‘sell by’ date and Charles needs to start replacing all of them.

    • MsIam says:

      I’m guessing the blackmail risk is high. But that is the bed the royals made and they can’t send people to the dungeon anymore, lol. Hope those NDAs are airtight!

  53. Liz version 700 says:

    There is so much creepy here. But I have to say, the casual way they the royals expect someone to just dump their wife and child is gobsmacking. It makes me even more sure that Kate’s days as the Consort to the Prince of Rage might be numbered. Clearly he thinks that a wife and children are entirely expendable. His dad also seemed to think this as well so no surprise there. But yeah, You terrorized H & M into fleeing the country and now you are so sad they are doing fine. To bad. Enjoy glittering mediocrity. Shiny diamonds worn by a family of turds.

  54. Tracenee75 says:

    The BRF and Royal Rata is looking like that dumb evil movie villain that gives long winded explanations before being bested by the hero. Harry has been saying for years that he hated the BM, and wanted to strike out on his own. What we’re seeing is Harry on fire, now with Meghan, he can be free to do what his heart desires. I think a lot of William’s jealousy stems from the fact that he wants what Harry has. I don’t think Bill wants the kingship. He would have been perfectly content being a “country gentleman” in Norfolk. Doing his air ambulance service, while Kathy stayed behind playing housewife. He wants all the trapping of aristocratic life without having to do all the icky king stuff. That’s what is rubbing him the wrong way, he was basically saying if I can’t have neither can you. Now the RF will have a reckoning, because of their shortsightedness the CW will fall apart and Brexit will further isolate them into oblivion. Now all they’ll have are “the good old days”.

  55. Mrs.Krabapple says:

    Why does britain have a monarchy again?

  56. Islandgirl says:

    On a very serious note…the BRF need to stop. They are called the “Firm” then they need to have an Executive Management” meeting. They need to come up with a strategy now that things with Harry and Meghan didn’t go as expected. They didn’t waste all their money on security, they weren’t languishing as they waited for the pandemic to end…they were working on their future, they have made a successful deal with Netflix and they are not coming back.
    So how does the family move on….it cannot be petty articles like this…this only appeals to their base and their base includes racist classist white people who are mostly middle aged.
    Harry and Meghan have shown that people outside of their base are not buying this narrative. Netflix wouldn’t have signed them if their due diligence had shown that they are toxic and have no influence.
    So the family has to come with a narrative that doesn’t necessarily exclude their base but also doesn’t make them look petty and dysfunctional to the other 95% of the world… this article does.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      So much common sense in your analysis. Apparently none of the grey goblins have even half of the intellect you do.

    • Snuffles says:

      Exactly, the way they are whining on and on is SO unbecoming. 😛

      They need to pause, reflect and re-strategize. Harry and Meghan are no longer part of the equation.

      Their only plan can NOT be “pray really hard that Harry leaves Meghan and comes back to England and rejoin The Firm.”

      If that is their only option, then they deserve to be abolished.

    • Lizzie says:

      And what actual firm has some who is 94 in charge?

  57. amadabasura says:

    That’s ok! The rest of us are pissed off at the Windsor’s bigotry and pedophilia.

  58. A says:

    I don’t understand why they’re coming out so strongly against The Crown, of all shows. Again, this was a show that revitalized so much interest in the Queen, the monarchy, and it was a huge boost to her image until the shit with Epstein. This line of reasoning, that they never liked the show, is just bizarre.

    When it first came out, the only thing anyone ever wanted to know was if the Queen had seen it, and if she had, what she thought of it. I still remember Eugenie mentioning she’d watched it and really liked it. Everyone raved about the first two seasons, particularly Claire Foy’s portrayal of the Queen, which, imo, was just much nicer than what the Queen is probably actually like in real life.

    So why the sudden about face? You couldn’t pay for better publicity or a better hagiography than what Peter Morgan does on the regular. His 2006 movie went a long way towards rehabbing the Queen during one of the most disastrous periods in her public image. Everyone who was around when Diana died called her a cold-hearted bitch, and all it took was one movie to make both her (and Tony Fucking Blair) seem like decent people again.

    Shitting on The Crown like this for reasons unknown is bizarre. I do know that there was some back and forth between whether or not Peter Morgan would do five or six seasons. He initially said earlier this year that he wanted to end at season 5, and I thought at the time that it was convenient that this was the case, because then it would mean that they wouldn’t have to portray too much of William and Harry and everything that happened after. But they changed their mind and are doing six seasons again, like they originally planned. I wonder what is going on with their planning for the upcoming seasons, and whether this is a factor in why the RF is changing its tune on the show. Maybe they’re wary of the fact that there’s a possibility they won’t be portrayed in a good way, although, given that it’s Peter Morgan, they’re much more likely to be let off quite lightly.

    • lanne says:

      It’s Meghan. Just Meghan. They can’t deal with the fact that their blood prince married a black girl, and under the “one drop” rule, a person with African blood is 7 spots from the throne (these are people who pride themselves on being 167th from the throne and such). They love the Crown until they can use it to bash Meghan. They care about royal spending because black people benefit from it. They care about “protocol” because a black person is around to break it. They are racists. The courtiers and the royals both. At best, the royals are dithering idiots beholden to racists, but blood and “purity” matter to these people. Any way they can grasp at any straw to shit on Meghan, they’ll grab it and use it. All of the global goodwill after the wedding was paper thin. They couldn’t build a future on it because racists gonna racist. That’s always their downfall. Racism makes people stupid and irrational. They are willing to sacrifice their own monarchy to their goddamned racism, and they are too stupid, myopic, mediocre, and short-sighted to realize it. How is all this going to look 10 years from now? 5 years from now? It’s like looking at pictures of white people from the 1950s in America proudly holding segregationist signs and screaming at black children trying to go to school. Those pictures are deeply embarrassing now, and when the people in them have been tracked down, they are (publically) mortified. If George still has a throne to sit on forty years from now, he will likely be having to apologize to Archie for how he and his mother were treated by his own family. Then again, maybe George will be chumming around at aristocrat parties in crumbling castles, talking with a passel of weak-chinned inbred fools about the “good old days” when his family sat on the throne.

      • Tealie says:

        What you said Ianne, People keep asking why they’re being so irrational myopic and one-sided but like you said a racist is going to racist and they will do it at their own detriment. Not only does it look grotesquely racist and bad now but it will look 100x more so in ten years (if they even make it so far) when the younger generation are questioning why they should keep such a disgusting archaic display of wealth and inequality. Anyways maybe little Willie, George Charlotte and Louis can visit Buckingham palace when it becomes a museum since it seems that’s what their petulant parents want!

      • Q says:

        A bit too late for that. (Queen Charlotte)

      • Nyro says:

        More like sixty years. If William lives as long as his paternal grandparents, that’s about six more decades of this mess. The crown won’t last another sixty years. George will never be king. I don’t believe William be king either, but George, I’m certain of it.

    • February-Pisces says:

      That’s exactly what I said. They were loving the crown the first 2 seasons, and it really brought the queen and Prince Philip to a younger audience who don’t know much about them. Most under 20s probably didn’t even know Princess Margaret existed.

      This is all Willie, he’s trashing The Crown because he’s a short term thinker. But this trashing looks like it’s on behalf of the entire family, which won’t bode very well with the shows producers. And there are still more seasons to come, so I hope they go harder on them as a result.

    • CC says:

      Because the Diana seasons would probably bring up all of memories about how awful they were…or at least that’s what they’re scared of. They’re trying to quickly change the narrative and discredit Netflix imo

  59. SilentStar says:

    The Sussexes haven’t even started producing anything with Netflix yet and the RF says they’re already embarrassing them? Jeez, they sure have a warped sense of embarrassment. (Ahem, Prince Andrew).

  60. NotSoSimpleTaylor says:

    The royals are telling Harry the only way he will be allowed back is if he divorces Meghan. That’s telling.

  61. badmuthagoose says:

    I think the Windsors should just die mad. H & M are out there living their best lives. Suck it, Windsors.

  62. Carmelita says:

    Holy projection, Batman.

  63. Likeyoucare says:

    I think by now sussex pr team are cackling in the background. They dont need to think how to promote the sussex as the BM keep reporting about them.
    There are no such things as bad publicity and the BM keep showing their asses by trying to smear the suxxes without having any real input and truth.

  64. Marivic says:

    Why would the Royal Family and the British media wish the dissolution of the Sussex marriage? What God has put together let no man put asunder. Aside from them hating Meghan, I think they also don’t like Archie. They don’t want him and his mother back in U.K. Judging by the world’s interest, they are in tenterhooks that Archie will eclipse the Cambridge children.

    • Nyro says:

      Archive’s already eclipsed them. Every time he’s been seen, he trends in the US and Britain. Whatever he’s wearing sells out, Oprah’s given him a book club, etc. We’ve seen the Cambridge kids lots of times this year and it didn’t really make noise. People made a devil child meme out of George making Christmas pudding with his grandmother, tho.

  65. Tealie says:

    I was cackling too Kaiser! It’s like listening to a child scream! 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭! Just one long high pitched noise!

  66. LRob says:

    Let me get this straight.
    1. The implication is that the BRF would have been okay with a huge deal at Disney or Amazon or NBC or Apple, just not at Netflix? Nope. We know darn well they or the BM would whine about any successful negotiation that benefitted the Sussexes.
    2. From public reports, the Sussexes didn’t agree to any prior review of their business deals. They agreed to uphold the values of the Queen, not to avoid anything that might “embarrass the family”. For goodness sake, anything the Sussexes DO that is successful will embarrass that family because H&Ms work ethic & creative vision outshine the lot of them. Tell me, exactly what project have they undertaken that failed to uphold the values of the Queen? The Elephant documentary? The Paralympics Doc, Rising Phoenix? Volunteering at the Community Food Bank? Encouraging Americans to Vote, just like the Queen encouraged the Scots to?
    3. I am confronted with stupidity every single day of fighting 45 Inc in US politics, so I object to dealing with any more stupidity from the RF/RR about H&M. Our prince is a charismatic leader of men, a global mover and shaker with international connections. Our princess is credentialed, luminous, talented and strong, with a powerful circle of her own.
    Deal with it, family, and attend to your own business.

  67. Lizzie says:

    I do not recall a real life case of a self fulfilling proficiency on this scale. Not only have H&M eclipses the rest of the royal family, the royal family have shown the world they are impotent to do anything about it. Complete humiliation.

    • Nyro says:

      Yes, and I love it.😂😂 This is exactly what they did not want to happen and get it has indeed happened. All of it! The move to LA, the megafame, the mega money, etc. That Tim Shipman article has aged so very well.

  68. Ni says:

    Imagine if your family used faux outrage at your perfectly legal marriage and businesses to cover for your pedophile uncle.

  69. blunt talker says:

    They agreed to uphold the Queen when doing whatever business they choose to do-As long as the projects they are involved with does this -then everything is cool-the way these people talk I swear they sound like people from prehistoric ages. The royal family and their royalist butt kissers need to get a grip on reality in a modern world-the modern world is passing them by without as much of a wave- If they truly cared about the Sussex family give them some breathing room in their new life and watch to see if anything is amiss with what they are doing with regards to projects-They all sound like inbreds with a couple of screws loose. God be with the Sussex family.

  70. Well-Wisher says:

    Shouldn’t William be preparing to be king although he is ‘King of the Tories ‘ presently?On a serious note to add to many of the comments this reeks of William losing his nonexistent control over his brother He seems unable to accept that Harry is his own man, who has publicly stated that his priority is to protect his wife and be a role model for his son. (yet they whinge about the divorce, so Harry can marry a blond Tory according to Piss Morgan,)
    The tabloid situation in the UK made this untenable, so he moved on while acceding to all the ridiculous rules made up mostly by him, William.
    He can no longer ‘punish’ the Sussexes when they do not let him win, so he is enraged and livid.
    They are not dependent on the Sovereign Grant nor the Prince of Wales.
    Carping about the not informing the Queen about the Netflix deal, is less about the Queen, and more about William having no say nor authority and can no longer leak to ruin it for his brother.
    Why is this out now?
    The tabloids are slagging the Queen and Prince Charles more often than enough, is it that they finally stood up to their king?
    All the remaining military positions vacated by Prince Philip went to Princess Anne not William. Why?
    The brothers are not on good terms, the Cambridges did three visits on Harry’s birthday, he was ‘spared’ their zoom calls.

    The tabloids do not want the lawsuits, as they realised that the Sussexes would not be intimidated into settling, so now the BTM is letting the world know how involved the RF and in particular W and K was involved in the abuse of Meghan to minimize their role.
    Too little, too late.