From what I can understand, Ioan Gruffudd told Alice Evans that he was leaving her and seeking a divorce back in January of this year. It’s more than likely that there had been a lot leading up to that moment, but Alice seems to be an unreliable narrator of her own chaos, so no one knows for sure. I definitely believe that throughout 2020, there was a lot of foreshadowing that their marriage was not great and it’s not like Ioan walked in one day this January and announced he was leaving. What no one really understands is why Alice is hellbent on tweeting through all of it, even when it’s clearly bad for her, bad for Ioan, bad for their kids and good for the lawyers. I’ve quietly agreed with the sentiments from lawyers and divorcees that Alice is going to tweet her way into losing custody of their kids.
Of course, Alice did some foreshadowing of her own, and everyone knew that Alice was going to completely lose her sh-t when Ioan moved on and began dating someone new. And that’s exactly what happened this week – Ioan became Instagram-official with his girlfriend Bianca Wallace, an extra/actress on Ioan’s show Harrow. Alice keeps doing tweet-storms about Ioan and Bianca and then she’ll delete some of the sh-t and then she’ll reply to people and it’s just a big social media mess. I have no idea why she doesn’t just delete all of the social media apps and find a good therapist. Anyway, here’s some of the latest:
Alice Evans alleged that Ioan Gruffudd told her that he would leave her if she ‘gained weight’ in her latest tirade against her estranged husband. The actress, 50, launched into a fresh Twitter attack against the Welsh actor, 48, after revealing her young daughter is ‘inconsolable’ over her father’s new romance.
In her latest string of ranting tweets, Alice shockingly alleged that Ioan told her more than once that he would leave her if she ‘gained weight’. Her comments came in response to a tweet which read: ‘Some words of caution for new side chick and marriage wrecker @BiancaWarren… don’t gain an ounce of weight. @IoanGruffudd likes his women anorexic skinny. Time to dig out the thighmaster and cigarettes.’
Alice replied to the tweet with a row of crying laughing faces, before insisting that the Twitter user was ‘not wrong’ in their claims.
She added: ‘You’re not wrong. He told me several times over the years that he couldn’t abide ‘fatties’ and he would leave if I gained weight. I guess he was true to his word this time!’
Yeah, again, she’s shown herself to be an unreliable narrator of all of this. Maybe Ioan had strong feelings about how his girlfriends/partners should look, maybe not. I don’t know the man. All I know is that I would have found it difficult to live with Alice for more than a week, so I have no idea how he managed to make it through all of these years with her.
Oh, and she’s still using the kids as pawns in her melodrama.
And yet when I use social media I'm chastised for it.
By the way, Elsie is still inconsolable. I can't send her to school today. Her whole little world has collapsed. https://t.co/ah62xSQ8y3
— Alice Evans (@AliceEvansGruff) October 28, 2021
These are all photos of Alice this week in LA.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Backgrid.
I don’t know anything about her so not predisposed to distrust her, but that is the kind of controlling manipulative shit some men pull.
Ehhh she’s pretty cruel herself. Posted something to the effect of how she hoped her daughters nose didn’t turn out like her ex-husbands. I think this is just the perfect storm of two narcissists divorcing.
That’s awful for the kids. Plenty have been through this and worse and persevered but still that’s no excuse.
We don’t know that that man is a narcissist. She’s told us he is, but so far he’s kept his mouth shut enough raise some doubt.
Alice seems like a bunny boiler to me. She needs an intervention.
Yes, I know several men who actually have said this to partners personally (myself included…needless to say his @$$ was out the door immediately!).
HOWEVER…all we have is HER word for this, and she (frankly) seems certifiable. Definitely a “bunny boiler”, as Minx said, with an “I WILL NOT BE IGNORED!!” thrown in.
As for her latest attempt to drag her daughter into this, how do we know he DIDN’T tell his daughter(s) privately?
We don’t know either of them, obviously. I only know who he is from “Forever”, which I liked. Maybe they’re birds of a feather, but all I *can* see is that he’s either just following his atty’s advice and not engaging on SM or any other way except through the atty, but she’s been like this for a LONG time; seems like she needs *intensive* therapy for what she is doing, esp. to her daughters, in public. They WILL grow up and read all this on the net. NOTHING is every really “gone”.
And Dad doesn’t get Brownie points for picking a woman half his age.
I’m only on #TeamKids for this one.
@Pink Flamingo – I’m just now seeing some of her sm posts where she uses her children in this war with him and it is extremely disturbing. From the terrible comment you mentioned where she said she hoped her daughter wouldn’t get his nose to the time she posted a text he sent her asking her not to jump into his call wirh his daughter unannounced and then revealed her daughter was struggling in school. She really needs to get some help before she does irreparable damage to their kids.
Look i know i posted a sparky comment about this woman the other day but I’m asking this without malice: does this woman have no friends? Because i just can’t for the life of me imagine allowing a friend of mine behave like this especially when her estranged husband has never returned fire. A lot of Hollywood dbags will try to look like the nice guy by not putting out official statements but then go to ther tabloid of choice(TMZ,People, etc) to
trash their estranged wife but it doesnt even look like he’s done that. So it makes her look deranged that she keeps on attacking him and routinely putting their children’s personal business out into the world while he refuses to fight back.
Her friends or family really need to stage an intervention to get her professional help before she loses custody of their kids because you can be damn sure his lawyers are taking screenshots of all this stuff she’s posting and it will probably not end well for her.
It is and if it were anyone else, I’d believe it but this one has been running her mouth so far and so wide that I can’t fathom she wouldn’t have mentioned this months ago if it were true.
It’s curious that she only mentions it now when his new girlfriend is thinner and younger.
“ It’s curious that she only mentions it now when his new girlfriend is thinner and younger.” – and also right after those pics came out yesterday that showed she looks like a completely different person in real life verses the Instagram pics she’s been posting.
Her latest IG pics must have been photoshopped to h*’ll and then back, no way they represent the person in the pictures at the bottom of the article…
And who knows when she gained weight anyway. I’d bet it’s been post divorce and she wants to pin that on her ex husband.
I agree with comments about her losing custody of the kids if she continues acting that way.
Usually in cases like these I tend to support the woman. In this case they are equally as venomous and toxic. She has shown herself to be a spiteful, lying piece of work and at this rate if someone does not take her phone away she may lose her children. She is simply not putting the emotional needs of her kids first.
why is it that, since the woman in this situation is clearly toxic and has a pretty long history of nasty behavior, the man must also be a narcissist/toxic? He’s yet to say or do anything publicly for people here to be making that assertion and the only allegations of him being an AH come from someone who clearly has significant issues and quite the grudge. We don’t know that he didn’t tell his daughters that he was involved with someone prior to posting on insta but we do know he hasn’t been publicly attacking his estranged wife or using his children as a weapon so where does the “In this case they are equally as venomous and toxic.” assertion come from?
What has he said that is venomous and toxic ? That would be nothing as he doesnt use Twiier and posted 1 pic of himself in a year on IG when a friend of his died .
I can’t speak for Elizabeth Regina, but my guess is the point she is trying to make is that everything Alice accuses her ex of, she is just as bad if not worse. Which I 100% agree with.
But what has he said about it that is venomous ,he is not running to the press ,posTing on Twitter or until this week on IG
He left her,posted a short statement and then left the rest to his brief
@Elizabeth Regina, most abusers ARE men, and I also slant towards women because of this. The numbers just are. But women absolutely can be abusive. It’s hard for male victims because of the default to men as abusers.
I believe that Ioan doesn’t understand he’s a “battered man”. He is a victim because of her constant stream of public humiliation, the worry he must feel for the kids, knowing it will be worse if he is in town… it’s a damn nightmare.
I had a restraining order when my kid was little and I was trying to get her back. I would go to visit her, because he insisted on being there for each visit. He’d abuse me in front of her, but I got to see her. When we’d go into court, he’d say that I was faking it because I’d come to park in the front of his house, as he demanded, for short, 5-minute visits.
To the outside world, I HAD to have failed as a mother and a partner. The reality was that he was a narcissistic sociopath. I won her freedom, but only after years of not being believed because he took over the narrative, just like Alice. It made it harder.
This is a gossip site, and we come here to have fun and speculate, but, in my mind, this is black and white based on my experience and what Alice and Ioan are doing. Who am I? You guys don’t know me personally, but there are so many cultural misconceptions about the line between a crappy relationship and ACTUAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, which this ABSOLUTELY, UNDENIABLY IS. WE AS WOMEN NEED TO ACHIEVE MORAL CLARITY ABOUT THIS TO SAVE CHILDREN. WE NEED TO NOT PUT OUR OWN “LOVE SICK” BS in it. This is NOT some story of a woman done wrong: THIS IS WHAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE LOOKS LIKE. It’s isn’t always blood and bruises.
He is a victim of domestic violence. Period. And she is the perpetrator.
I’m sorry I preach, you guys. Thanks to everyone who tries to understand, and to all the women and men who come here who survived as partner victims, but especially to the grown up child survivors. The child survivors are miracles to me.
Kaiser, thanks for your kindness and sensitivity when you write about this. I really appreciate how knowledgeable and careful you are about this.
We haven’t heard a word from her ex, only her, and it’s really nasty. Maybe he just iced her out and that’s making her lash out more but he hasn’t said anything. It’s all her.
@ Christina, I am so sorry for what your ex did to you, your relationship with your daughter and how he lied to the judge with regards to your mental health.
You are a survivor of abuse, and of the worst kind!! Emotional abuse doesn’t have physical evidence of what you have endured. It’s much harder for you to state your case and prove what he has done to you. You are probably suffering from PTSD as well. I hope that you are in a better place now. I hope that you have either shared or sole custody as no child should have to see the poison that an ex abuser continues to inflict upon you. In addition, he would have been filling your child/children head with lies as well. That’s what abusers do and they are good at it too.
She is hurt. And if he really behaved like that I think he deserves that the truth is being told. Also does he need to flaunt his new girl like this? It isn’t just his wife but there are also kids involved. Be discreet. Additionally he is a working actor which means that he has a professional pr who advises him. She doesn’t.
@bothsidesnow, XOXO. We are fine now, thankfully. She has NOTHING to do with him anymore.
Alice acts EXACTLY like my ex. Exactly.
Google her name and Meghan Markle. You will be relieved of any sympathy.
Lol! Truth!
hold up, what? please explain this comment.
Yeah she’s writing racist stuff about Meghan again because some else besides her ex needs to catch her toxic feelings. She needs to take a long vacation.
She’s completely unhinged. She’s been raging on IG for months now, talking
talking shit about the father of her kids. That’s such a shitty thing to do. If he’s an asshole, fine – divorce him. But she’s so deranged she DGAF about the impact in her children. After 25 years of practice my experience tells me that these antics will cost her custody and rightly so. She’s unstable.
She went with the “Ioan hates fat women” theme when DM published these unflattering pics of her, while his new gf is the perfect body type (at 29 vs. 50+). I think she is hurting badly about her looks too, not just him leaving. She used to be stunning. But we can’t stop the wheels of time.
But I do believe he might have said something like that. I believe them both to be vain enough, both actors, both originally good looking, both later had procedures done to keep the pretty going, and his career is dependant on his looks. So, yeah.
What’s ugly is Alice now going after his young costar, the girl who plays his daughter on Harrow, and claiming he called that girl fat and other stuff behind her back. Which he might have, but it was not meant for others to hear, and not meant to hurt the girl. Alice is going to play this very dirty.
Maybe he stopped feeling attracted to her when she gained weight. It’s possible. Also shitty that that is what broke the camel’s back. But the rest? I can’t tell if she was so extra and, yes, manipulative in their relationship then as she seems now. Maybe this is/was about her trying to get some control back. Even the gaining a lot of weight could be that—“show me you’ll love me no matter what”—but he is shallow and couldn’t love her no matter what. But also didn’t want to feel tested. All in all, they both seem kind of shallow, toxic, and broken.
Are we sure it’s about her weight?
She seems kind of rude at times. That could be a turn-off. And then the addition of the weight might not help. If she were more kind, I wonder if his attitude towards her weight would be a bit different.
I still can’t get a read on what he’s actually like. He’s not done enough interviews to form a composite of his actual personality.
He looks very good though. Since I don’t know what it’s like to be that good-looking, I’m wondering if people that attractive are inclined to be attracted to people who are equally good-looking to them — like when ballet dancers with 0 percent body fat are attracted mostly to other ballet dancers with 0 percent body fat. I think it’s shallow when a fat man expects a thin woman, but when the male partner is very good-looking himself, I’m not sure if it’s inevitable he’d be attracted to someone maintaining looks at his same level. Since it’s rare for me to meet men this handsome, I have no idea.
Let’s not forget the stereotypical mid life crisis and leaving the wife for a younger woman. In this case I think she made his decision to leave a little easier. However I do hate when it when parents who are divorcing take their rage for their partners and spread it to their children. My parents did the same thing (they conveniently can’t remember now) and it really affected me and my siblings. Also poor judgment from him on making his relationship IG official with such a volatile ex.
Was she ever going to stop being volatile? At some point, he was going to have to rip the band-aid off and move on for both their sakes.
I can’t even tell if he’s having a mid-life crisis. He’s older, but not the average looking male at his age. He’s a good-looking guy (with a decent amount of charisma from the interviews I watched last night for “research”) who was bound to find someone. Someone like him wouldn’t stay single. I could see him simply saying “Hi” and women would be inclined to be charmed by him and want to date him.
I get why the woman being significantly younger would bother people, but at the same time….he’s not ugly and he appears to be fit. So….yeah, men like this have options. Also, a younger woman may be less inclined to pressure him for marriage while he’s trying to get his divorce (who knows how long this could take if the ex-wife is dragging it out). And they’re available. Other women his age and less famous like he is are probably married or partnered up in some other capacity.
I’m wondering if an older woman around his age would even want to deal with an ex-wife like this. An older woman is likely to to find her beyond irritating contend with. Might not be worth the hassle, especially if she has her own kids to think about.
He has done what Michael Sheen and Kate B did
I know people mock Kate B a bit, but I assumed she was dating all the younger guys because that’s who is single and available for her. 20 somethings are usually single. Everyone else, not so much.
I don’t think he said anything about her weight, she is not “well” and is now throwing whatever at the wall of public opinion to see what sticks. We don’t know anything from his side because he’s being an ADULT and not airing their divorce out on social media/in public. If this is par for the course with her, I’m surprised he stayed around as long as he did.
I agree @ MelOn! I looked at her history on SM and she has a very long history of attacking anyone, including Duchess Meghan, which was awful considering Alice doesn’t even know Meghan!!! And Alice shouldn’t be pointing fingers at his new GF considering she was living with Picasso’s grandson when she left him for Ioan!! Alice has a lengthy history of attacking, bullying and being out right nasty to anyone!!
I think Alice needs to STFU, stay off of SM and get therapy!!! Alice is abusive and is clearly using SM for sympathy as she spends her days attacking him and thanking everyone for their support. Alice is trying to defame him and is using their children as bargaining chips. Unfortunately their children will suffer the most from her crazy, “bunny boiling” antics!!
She needs to see a therapist. STAT. Shut the public stuff down and work on your stuff in private, Alice.
Oh, brother. Why is she tweeting about their daughter? So irresponsible. Get off social media FFS.
@Minx
Exactly, this is horrible. Their daughters are young so I doubt they even know what their dad posted to IG until mommy dearest showed it to them. And really, the young girl’s world collapsed and she can’t go to school because there was another woman in a picture with her daddy (again, all the little girls would have seen/known without mommy dearest explaining/exaggerating context)?! I have kids myself and I just cannot even imagine using them as pawns and putting their (real or made up) feelings on such a private, sensitive matter online for millions to see.
I am actually shocked at the people trying to both sides this issue when he has kept everything off social media and in fact we have proof that he is trying to keep things civil with his ex wife and he only wants to communicate with his girls. And we know this because Alice posted it to social media trying to make him look like a bad guy for it, which again, what ???!?!
In most cases, young kids (no teens) will take their cues of how to perceive a new situation from their parents. I see she’s hurting, but she needs to get her act together enough to stop traumatizing her daughters. I’m appalled at what she’s putting out there.
She’s going to end up in care when Ioan is awarded full custody and it will 100% be her fault.
Daddy getting a new girlfriend almost a year after he asked mommy for a divorce is not earth shattering to a child who is properly nurtured, well loved, and not parented by a disturbed asshole who needs her children to have a major reaction in order to justify her bullshit.
I really hope Ioan’s lawyers are able to get him the power to intervene before this gets really messy.
This is making me think of Phil Hartman’s wife tbh
Poor beautiful Phil Hartman. I still miss him.
Me, too, Jezzy.
Dang…always happy to remember Phil. And yes, that a cautionary tale.
I really don’t think he will be seeking full custody… He seems to quite enjoy is carefree life. They both seem to be narcissistic a*holes and it really annoys me all the spew thrown (only) at her when the only thing he did, apart from the sketchy behavior, was to stay quite while she has a public meltdown. Did he even seemed to care about his children at any point during this all mess?! Poor children
What’s the answer? Him staying in a loveless marriage because they have kids?
We know he calls the children from work and that they have visited him when he moved out, until Alice alienated the older from him. He just refuses to talk to *Alice* and step a foot in the old house, which is smart, considering a lot could then be used against him.
I agree he never planned to get full custody, since he’s the working parent. But after her behaviour, he might try going for it? If she doesn’t stop this?
I continue reading the same stuff about him but… isn’t just speculation? To be honest, would you ask for 100% custody with an ex wife like that? It’s a recipe for disaster…
Where exactly are you getting that narrative?
I read somewhere (probably from her) that he told lawyers she was a negligent parent. She had a full meltdown about that and started posting pics of her playing in the pool with the kids. So it seems like he is at least aiming for some custody, or he wouldn’t be questioning her parenting to lawyers.
He has been told to stay away and have no contact with Alice . He has visitng right which he took up with the youngest but the older one would not see him away from Alice
And he was away working which in why he is in France at the minute . And how is he an a##hole and what exactly did he spew out .Tell us?
How is he a narcissistic asshole? By simply posting an IG photo of his girlfriend with a lovely comment? If that’s what constitutes a narcissistic asshole then 3/4 of the world must be NAs. He’s been quiet, respectful and diplomatic throughout this entire sh*tshow, while she has a very public and hysterical melt-down involving their kids. Can you imagine how worried he must be at how her behaviour is affecting their children? I have experience with this sort of bullsh*t — my partner’s ex-wife has harassed us for 7 years after she abruptly stormed out of the marriage with no warning. She’s interfered in our life constantly, demanded to reconcile, and when she found out we’d started seeing each other she went full on Facebook public about it and spread malicious lies that we’d carried on an affair for years while they were still together. She’s lied about having a serious illness, and threatened to commit suicide. Her lies destroyed close friendships of his, and even their daughter is now estranged from her because of her toxic behaviour.
Alice needs to get some therapy STAT and get the hell off social media or she will lose custody of their kids.
It looks like he has clearly established boundaries with her which she is willing to overstep time and time again. I will not be surprised if she ends up losing custody. She seems very toxic.
FrodoOrOdo, i was also reminded of Phil Hartman’s wife when reading all of this. She seems a bit scary.
You are seeing Phil Hartman because this is the same situation.
He can’t be in the same place as she is. She will be on his doorstep. My ex would drive by in big cars fast and act like he was going to run into me with his car. I couldn’t proof it until I finally filmed it. He needs to wear a fucking Go Pro WHENEVER he is near her.
Alice is not capable of controlling her abuse. She likely never will be. If she doesn’t lose those kids, I will be shocked.
People like this don’t change. Narcissistic people are not capable of change: they have a basic believe that their needs must be met over all others, including their terrified children.
That was horrible and you are right.. (going to be petty here but I also wish women who have had fillers in their lips would stop doing the duck lip like it is still there. I keep seeing this and i do not know if they realize they are doing it but it looks ridiculous)
She’s giving off strong Betty Broderick vibes to me. Team Kids.
You hit the nail on the head 100%. This won’t end well.
The woman needs to get off social media. I was a divorce lawyer for many years and these Twitter tirades are solid public proof that she is unable to stop herself from acting in a way that harms her children. Maybe she is a narcissist or whatever but she appears to be unable to understand her children’s emotional needs and she is damaging them psychologically. He could get custody if he wants it.
I agree about the social media. I don’t know much about either of them, but her online, public rants do her no favors, especially flinging insults at him, or going on about their kid(s).
She seems very unwell and I hope she figures out a healthier way to deal with this, because wow.
If she were mature enough to get off social media, would she even be ranting on social media in the first place?
She actually tweeted three years ago that Ioan told her that she is a bit thin and could do with a bit more weight.
She is inventing stories that fit to the current narrative. It’s no wonder that she came out with this after the Daily Mail published unflattering pics of her and after he started to date a skinny woman.
+1. She’s throwing everything at the wall, hoping something will stick.
She’s clearly an unreliable narrator who’s lashing out because she’s angry and insecure (about her weight specifically).
This is another sign of a malignant narcissist: the rules ALWAYS shift to fit the current narrative. The narrative ALWAYS sullies the other person. Negative attention doesn’t matter: narcissistic supply can be negative or positive.
Trust me, she is THRILLED that her picture, fat or skinny, was printed in the DM. She is getting attention that she is getting starved of by Ioan.
Bingo to @deg, @Merricat, @MF1, and @Christina. You have all made excellent points, and I agree.
If you use your children to manipulate public emotion, you are the worst, period.
May she be treated with the same kindness that she has afforded Megan Markle 😇
Why would you even want a fat shamer? If he doesn’t appreciate you, he doesn’t deserve you.
He’s gone, Alice. You are free now. Find someone worthy. Living well is the best revenge.
He’s never fat-shamed her. She’s reacting like a classic narcissist and spewing utter nonsense to get public sympathy and pity. He doesn’t deserve this crap from someone who clearly has a few loose screws and needs therapy, and if she keeps this up she won’t find someone “worthy”, they’ll be too afraid of her. Getting her mental health back is the important issue here, revenge is never the answer.
She’s lost her damned mind. This endless tirade is going to end in grief – she’ll lose custody, and potentially go off the deep end and need an intervention. I don’t know if she’s a narcissist – she is desperately me-me-me – or simply menopausal and raging, but to talk about her daughters in such explicit detail will damage them down the line. Sounds like Gruffud had a lucky escape, and I hope he can find some happiness.
I don’t think Ioan wanted custody of the kids and was happy to move on. But this is so bad that it won’t look good if he doesn’t demand full custody.
I always remember the story of David Mamet and Lindsay Crouse getting into a fight and him saying he was leaving. He went to pack his bags. When he got to the front door, she was there with their very young kids and their bags and diapers. If you go, you take the kids. He stayed. Realizing that is totally effed up, and that Zosia Mamet was one of those kids.
People keep saying he didn’t want full custody and he’s a narcissist and cheater and I’m not finding anything to substantiate any of that. I’ m happy to be corrected though…
The kids still reside with Alice full time & Ioan sees them during breaks. He calls them. He’s in Australia, Alice in California. Custody could change but I’m looking at where the children are right now, where Ioan is & it’s possible he could file changes to the custody, I’m just not seeing it at this time.
Alternately he could be keeping quiet because he does want custody. He’s been discreet, she hasn’t. He’s communicating with her through lawyers.
@purplehazeforever — why do you need to see it? why does he need to show what he is doing in regard to the kids to the public?
His ex has decided to talk to the public, he owes nothing to the public…..for me, this is another Phil Hartman; a man who procreated with an unstable woman; hopefully he can get custody of his kids and completely cut her off until she gets better
By the way, after everything she said about Meghan M
– I have absolutely no sympathy for bad people like her
– seeing her, I get why she hates Meghan but it is none of Meghan’s fault and I suppose like many others, she uses Meghan’s name to get a bit of attention
It damages the children in present, real time. She can eff right off, trying to use them to hurt their father.
@purplehazeforever
He is in France
Okay he’s in France…still doesn’t have custody & hasn’t filed paperwork to change custody agreement. Staying quiet and filing papers are two different things. He could be staying quiet for a number of reasons. It doesn’t mean anything other than he has incredible self – control. I just think it’s best not to read into actions or lack of action. He could change all of that in the weeks ahead, thought.
@purplehazeforever — how do you know he isn’t already putting together a custody agreement with his lawyer? Are you a personal friend? He’s staying quiet because he’s a stable, intelligent man who refuses to play the dirty blame games and public humiliation that Alice is. The more spiteful and aggressive she becomes, the better his chances of getting a fair custody agreement.
This is narcissism. Mentally ill people are so self centered. Mentally I’ll people can be afraid of hurting others and have empathy for others. Alice’s empathy is only for Alice.
Mentally ill people are mentally ill. Some of them are self-centered and some of them realize it.
The operative word is illness.
And, yet…she wants the guy back. I just can’t with this woman. If he’s that bad, she’s gotten a lucky Escape. This woman needs some serious serious mental health counseling.
Horrible bosses! That’s where I recognize him from. It’s been driving me nuts.
Stop. Just stop. Think of ur kids’
I sense a custody battle and a restraining order in her future
Someone needs to tell her that Kelly Rutherford is not a role model. If she loses custody due to her behaviour, Ioan might well have to move the kids to a country where she has no right to reside (since he neither lives nor works in the US and if he has full custody, I assume he will have to move the kids to wherever he is).
Of course, that assumes he wants full custody. He is keeping his mouth shut which means she is coming across much worse but it could be he is happy being a Disney Dad who sees the kids occasionally. Poor kids if that’s true since it means both their parents are doing a bad job.
Shallow comment alert:
I think this guy so handsome I wonder if I’d feel insecure being married to him. Probably. But that face!
Who knows what he actually thinks. Looked up interviews on Youtube, and I’m not sure if it’s the Britishness/Welshness but he seemed kind of chill to me. His public persona seems…elegant. Maybe he has some secret crazy side to him we don’t know about, but I can’t see a streak of it in his public presentation, which seems quite well done. His public persona probably makes her seem more imbalanced than she probably actually is. I’m ALMOST wondering how he wound up married to her — they seem so different, even in interviews together where he seems kind of buttoned-up and she’s more out there.
Until the wife had a meltdown, I had no idea this guy has a tv show coming out. I’ll be tuning in!
I’m not saying he is a narsissist, because how would we know, but I do want to comment on what you wrote and say that a very normal narsissistic trait is to be charming and seemingly normal to people outside of their relationships.
This is one of the reasons many women who are horribly emotionally and physically abused often are disregarded and not believed when they finally speak up about it. People around them will have no clue and think he is a charming, witty and nice person.
Narsissists knows how to behave, and they know when to behave. They know how to portray themselves as good individuals and hide their toxic traits. It’s their partners, their children and their closest that see their true nature.
Again, we don’t know him.
But I wouldn’t judge him on his outward public appearance, it won’t tell us anything about what’s going on behind closed doors.
In my experience as a therapist, the fact that people find him charming and handsome, mixed with his ex’s outburst, is red flags for me that something is going on behand the scenes that we don’t know about.
It is also completely normal for a narsissist to abuse someone emotionally and mentally to the point where their victims break and act out. Must like this lady. That’s how narsissists turn the focus from themselves onto the victim, and then call it abuse. They will always look like the innocent person because they know how to gaslight and wind people up.
Anyway, just offering another perspective.
I don’t know what’s going on here. I hope they are able to heal.
Yes, this is true, I wouldn’t judge his private personality on his outward appearance. That’s why I emphasized the term “public persona” so that the distinction is clear.
I have no way of knowing what he’s like in private as he does not appear to discuss it, unlike her. He gives nothing away, so if he’s crazy too, he does a good job of hiding it!
I did see one interview, however, where the wife appeared to cut in when a journalist was asking him a question. Her response seemed out of place. It seemed clear the journalist was interested in interviewing him and her desire to be “seen” and “heard” was a bit inelegant compared him. Based on that, I wondered a) how he wound up with her and b) whether that intrusion she was performing in the interview got on his nerves.
@Oria, I’m so glad you said this from your perspective as a therapist!
The comments here – she’s abusive, unhinged, crazy, manipulative, etc. I’m not ok with this pile on. Why do we expect the woman to be absolutely perfect before we sympathize? Why, if she puts a foot wrong (or in this case, several feet and arms wrong) do we tut-tut sympathetically at the husband? Why suddenly are we excusing a man who dumped his wife of 20-30 years, with whom he has kids, to be with someone 20 years younger… Because he’s good looking and she got fat!? The reaching here to excuse him… I’m not here for that.
Yes she’s a mess, she’s ranting and raving and it’s not a good look. Yes I know she’s said catty/bitchy things about other people (Meghan Markle). She has no filter.
But it seems to me like this is a woman in pain.
And as @oria said, so much of this looks like the result of being gaslight and manipulated. You are in love, he wants you to xyz… You do it all but it’s never enough. And then decades later, he’s gone and you don’t recognize yourself and your shock and pain are overwhelming.
If he’s such a great dad, why leave them with her? Why does the mother have to stuff her pain “for the sake of the kids” while the dad gets to live his best life without them? He’s clearly not thinking about them. Just because this is what men have done for centuries and women must manage the emotional fall out for their children…
Why are we normalizing this? Just because there are countless examples of women who’ve risen to the impossible standard, held their tongues, took the high road, hid their anger/pain/rage/hurt “for the children”… Who took the financial hit, lack of social life, became the punching bag when Disney dad came and left or bailed altogether… Why is anything less than this impossible standard a mark of an unhinged woman?
She’s bringing her children into her Twitter rantings. She’s never going to be looked at positively.
Maybe she’s on Twitter because her friends got sick of listening to her. That’s the only explanation I have because that’s not the appropriate forum to really be heard. She doesn’t have to bite her tongue in private. She doesn’t have to bite her tongue with her friends. She doesn’t have to bite her tongue with her family. She doesn’t have to bite her tongue with a therapist. She doesn’t have to bite her tongue with the bartender. But Twitter has never been shown to be a useful forum for hoping your point will be understood. Twitter is good for no one.
If he responded to her Twitter ramblings, he’d look unhinged too. Social media has a way of making all of us look crazy at the wrong moment. But he’s not Twittering.
Remarks…This is exactly what happened to me. And I was pretty unhinged when I found out my ex had been cheating (or trying to) with just about anyone who crossed his path. It was shocking. Fortunately, we had friends in common who knew him before I did and knew that was his MO. They had hoped he changed for his family and were disgusted when they found out he hadn’t. They were my lifeline – I don’t know how I would have survived without them to help me stay balanced. Thanks for a therapist’s perspective!
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@Oria, I agree with you completely. Narcissistic people DO know how to mimic the behaviors of normal people to manipulate others.
Her reactions, based on my battle with a narcissist sociopath, is that true narcissists are incapable of completely hiding what they are. Ioan may be winding her up, but, based on how SHE discusses it, I think it is her.
It’s how they are responding . He may be awful, but that’s not a reason to repeatedly lie, shift narratives to fit the empathy she is trying to get.
In my mind, it is clearly Alice. If Ioan doesn’t rescue those kids, then I will believe it is both of them. But we won’t know until the end of their custody battle.
I’m kind of worried she’s going to become like Phil Hartman’s wife. I think the kids would be safer with him. The things I’ve seen online (video of a fender bender, for example) point to her being really unbalanced.
Parking lot video. Absolutely bonkers…
https://www.tmz.com/2020/02/04/actress-alice-evans-yells-youtuber-kayla-lashae-parking-lot-fender-bender/
Her daughter is inconsolable, not because dad is dating, but because mom is devastated. Her friends or therapist need to step in, she’s doing real harm.
Every time I read these posts about her latest antics, it reminds me of Betty Broderick. She wanted Dan Broderick back but behaved in such an over-the-top unglued manner there was no way he would ever come back (not like he was going to but still). She used her kids in the same manner until she lost custody and she refused to deal with lawyers or behave in a way that would help herself.
I am waiting for the day when Alice pulls a Betty and drives her car into Ioan’s front door.
Yes, I thought of her too.
So true. But just like Dan, Ioan has left his family and doesn’t seem interested in his kids even knowing their mother is unstable.
Just so weird how men can dump women when they get to a certain age without public image repercussions. I mean, he did wait until she hit menopause or peri to dump her and trade up for a repeat younger model. So he didn’t have an issue with her personality.
They both seem like crap parents.
He is following his lawyers advice
“……..Ioan has left his family and doesn’t seem interested in his kids…”
This is so out of left field. You know nothing of the kind.
Its okay for gossipers to speculate and extrapolate based on the facts at hand. But to make things up out of whole cloth, especially nasty things about a stranger about whom one knows nothing, is despicable and says so much more about the nasty character of the gossiper than their subject.
Dan Broderick (and yes, he was problematic in his own right) didn’t give up custody of his kids at all. In fact, he ended up with sole custody when Betty dropped their kids off at his house and said they were his now.
My guess is Ioan is listening to his lawyers, and playing the long game on custody. He’s giving Alice enough rope, and she is too unglued to stop and think.
Marriages collapse, it’s a common thing. I don’t think for one minute he’s not interested in his kids, he has to work. He’s also distancing himself from Alice’s crazy, which is what you do to detach from someone with her emotional problems. She’s trying everything possible to continue enmeshing her ex in her life at any cost. On the one hand she’s spiteful and jealous, on the other she’s begging to get back together and will say just about anything to hurt him, even use their children as weapons or go-betweens.
Nor do I think he’s the type to “dump women when they get to a certain age without public image repercussions” or wait until she hit menopause or peri to dump her and trade up for a repeat younger model”. I think, like many married folks, that over the years they grew apart and the waters became troubled. Maybe they even went to marriage counseling but it was unsuccessful, we simply don’t know. But a relationship can get to the point where staying in it makes you unhappy, frustrated and tired, and continuing to keep a sinking ship afloat makes no sense.
Alice Evans had had long-term relationships before Ioan Gruffud and seems to have overall had a pretty decent life in terms of being able to have a career. Maybe she didn’t get the exact type of professional life she wanted, but that’s Hollywood for you. Pick something else if you want stability. But she had a chance to live a more worldly life before she married.
Her issues make less sense to me than Betty Broderick who literally gave her entire life (youth to motherhood) over to Dan Broderick, and then saw it all collapse. Plus, he was a lawyer who knew how to make the system work against her (can you tell I’ve watched the movie? Ha ha). She also paid for him through medical school and law school. I doubt Evans had to pay for Gruffud’s education.
I can see the parallels in terms of the crazy behaviour. But I feel Alice Evans has had more of a full life than Betty Broderick did.
I thought immediately of Betty Broderick too, in that insane obsession to hold on, to the detriment of herself and her kids.
You know who she could learn a lesson from? Brad Falchuk’s ex-wife Suzanne Bukinik. Not a public peep from her, even though there seemed to be relationship overlap and Goop implied that blending the families was hard. Such a class act and I feel so bad for her that she is now known as Brad Falchuk’s ex. Hope she is doing well and not paying attention whenever he and Goop gush about each other on Instagram.
She’s a racist who loves Piers Morgan and hates Meghan, she’s admitted on social media her family can’t stand her, and she’s thrown every single horrible allegation she can think of to try to stick to his reputation (that he abused their children, was unfaithful, now this). She’s posted screenshots of their private conversations where he simply asked her to stop interfering in the video chats with his daughters. She even tweeted to a mutual friend “YOU KNEW ABOUT THIS????”
Plenty of men are awful and I wouldn’t be surprised if a notable actor behaved that way but in this particular instance I do not believe anything she says. She cheated on and dumped her fiance of 8 years to be with Ioan in the first place. The irony.
Interesting. It all makes sense as to why she was aggressively jealous of Meghan and joined the pile on. Karma remembers every post code. Hmm
Oh my! She’s clearly hurt and raging…and off her damn rocker if I may be so bold to say.
Stop using the kids as a weapon, Alice. Seek therapy and try to find some dignity.
Her take on the end of the marriage & her every tweeted reaction to her ex-husband’s behavior doesn’t even matter anymore.
Dragging your kids to the fore on SM and exposing such personal information about them is a sign that something is majorly f-ckd up. I hope those kids have some support, it sounds like they’re in a really destructive environment.
Cry me a River. She’s getting exactly what she deserves.
She looks like she has had wayyyyyyyyyy too much work done and it’s not settling well. She used to be really pretty and that is probably what is upsetting her more than anything, the new gf is young, thin, and pretty. Oh well.
Im feeling second hand embarrassment, but somehow like a trainwreck you can’t stop looking.
She’s high on the attention that she’s getting from Twitter and the media – it will all come crashing down when she loses custody of the children and she def will. Also she needs to fire whoever is giving her fillers etc.. as they look bad.
As for the weight gain – who knows, I don’t know much about him TBH, haven’t heard any gossip about him.
Some anti-depressants (lithium?) can cause bloating. Maybe that’s the cause?
He may have stopped wanting her when she gained weight but only they really know this. It still does not take away from the fact that this woman is awful. She isn’t above using her children to garner sympathy and support. I really do feel for the children in all this.
I just don’t know what she thinks she’s going to get from all of this tacky attention seeking behavior. He isn’t going to go back to her, so she should get therapy and move on.
Didn’t she leave her first husband (Pablo Picasso’s grandson) for Ioan?
He was her fiance. But yes she dumped him for Ioan after 8 years together. She also admitted she was having an affair with Ioan.
Woah that TMZ video is awful!!!
She said her 8 year old made Ioan promise he wouldn’t get a girlfriend. I wonder why she asked that? 🙄 This woman is nuts and using the kids to manipulate him. I have an 8 year old and that is NOT a normal question. She’s planting ideas in their heads and getting them worked up.
I know nothing about him and whether he’s a good guy. I just see these kids being used and it’s upsetting. If he’s a good guy, he’ll make a legal move to protect them.
Exactly. Spot on.
At this stage, based upon reputation, use of social media and behaviour, the issue would appear to not be Ioan. I’ve always heard nice things about him professionally. Very hard working, professional, nice. Well liked by peers and crew.
Alice may well be angry. But she is also very clearly mentally unstable. She spares no thought for the children. They are used as pawns here, not remotely protected. She will and should, based upon all this behaviour, lose primary custody.
It is so sad when marriages end. But one gets the impression strongly that her behaviour and refusal to manage what could be BPD or another chronic mental illness has lead in part at least to the divorce. I just hope the kids are ok.
And she is attacking his crew members/peers because they are supporting him .She went on a rant against Tamzin Outhwaite yesterday
“Unreliable narrator of her own chaos”. I have been searching for just the right phrase and this is it.
I have not seen anyone who so clearly needs their access to social media taken away since Donald Trump.
Divorce can make people feel some type of way. But you do it privately, and you leave your kids out of your drama.
She needs to get off social media.
I want to go with an “everyone sucks here” – their kids need both their parents, and to be honest neither seems to be acting like it. I don’t know their financial situation but it seems like she was left alone with the kids for some time in the pandemic, and is still alone with them now, which is really hard.
And then, if she is so destroyed by this and since she can’t think clearly for herself, she and her co parent need to work out a plan – maybe she can go to a recovery center for therapy, and he can arrange for kids to stay with a relative or maybe even stay with Dad awhile, but it’s clear she needs some time to process. This is when community care can mean a friend or a sibling or a grandparent or someone somehow needs to step in and get her some help so her kids can have a present and loving parent again, the way Jennifer Garner showed up for Ben Affleck when he relapsed.
It’s no different than if she broke her leg and was in pain- an emotional breakdown obviously involves a lot of pain, and she needs time to recover, in a less lashing out on Twitter way and more a – is he really terrible? Maybe I am the toxic one? Maybe we are both imperfect and how do we keep our kids’ sense of stability.
I don’t begrudge men moving on after a separation, but I do wonder if their kids are getting equal time to a fun, new relationship and his acting work?
He has only been in France for 2 months . As other people have explained upthread what her behaviour with the kids is . And all there families are in the UK and his bff is now on the East Coast in Matthew Rhys and she has no friends according to her just the ones on line
But wasn’t he away filming in Australia for a long time before that, while she was in the US? Away from the family for months? I think the woman is unhinged, but it seems to be true that she was doing the lions share of parenting while he was half a a world away. I might resent that a bit if I were her, even though it was for work and financial reasons.
That’s exactly my take here. He wasn’t happy so he divorced, all good. However, she’s clearly not well and not behaving in a healthy way towards her children, BUT she’s not a single mom (at least apparently). There’s a father here with equal responsibility. Why is he feeding her behavior with this kind of posts? I know he has the right to do it, but hey she’s feeding on that and their children are getting the consequences of it. Someone asked up thread what would we do if the other parent was behaving like this, like it was better to not engage in any way. Well, I for one would try to protect my children fiercely instead of concentrating publicly in a new relationship. I understand that there seems to be a general (deserved) dislike for her, but she was the man in the relationship, these comments would roll differently.
And well, he did marry her and stayed long enough to know her well and like it, why would he be so different from her? Team children
“And well, he did marry her and stayed long enough to know her well and like it, why would he be so different from her?”
Some truly brilliant empathy your showing towards people caught in emotionally/physically/financially abusive relationships. I assume you meet someone who is a victim of domestic abuse and automatically assume that they must be abusive as well to stay with their partner?
Hear, hear. Why are people (mostly women too) acting like him being away all the time is a normal thing? Erm, it’s not. He could seek for work in the US, closer to his daughters. Maybe not as a lead, but hey. But instead he’s in a new relationship already. Whatever you think of his ex – or want to call her – Why is he still Prince Charming for some commenters here? Check your internalised misogyny ladies. We all suffer from it. Me as well.
@Cath “Why are people (mostly women too) acting like him being away all the time is a normal thing? Erm, it’s not.”
I respectfully disagree. Many professions require travel/living abroad if you want to earn a good wage and further your career. Being sole breadwinner for the family can lead to these choices, especially if both parents decide that it’s better for the children to stay put instead of always moving around. Being an actor is not exactly a stable career and he’s not A-list.
If the parent was in the armed forces, for example, and deployed most of the year, we wouldn’t judge them to be bad parents.
At least Ioan isn’t taking the bait and responding to her claims publicly. Because that’d make the situation even worse for their kids.
I think it’s strange people are insisting that they are both toxic narcissists. Emotional abuse is a real issue. Abuse does disproportionately impact more vulnerable groups like womxn, LGBTI+ people, BIPoc and children. Because predators weaponise their privilege against that person to get away with it. However, I’ve met abusive womxn in my life. I’ve seen cis straight white dudes be victims of abuse.
There’s no real evidence of his behaviour being toxic. So far all of her claims have been baseless and she’s an unreliable narrator.
Plus she clearly doesn’t care about the emotional well being of their kids. It’s stressful going through a divorce so I can why you might slip up and say something petty once or twice to your followers online. But this womxn has a clear pattern of just spewing venom on social media, playing the victim and refusing to recognise that her words are negatively impacting her kids.
If this is what she behaves like publicly she’s a million times worse behind closed doors.
@MarcelMarcel, EXACTLY!!!!
You are correct on all points.
Agree. Ioan is doing exactly what he should be doing — detaching from her and not responding to her crazy SM nonsense. That’s how you handle a break-up with a narcissist and once you go no-contact they will inevitably go on the attack until it sinks in that they’re in a losing battle and nothing they say or do will change it.
Is she drinking? Like…a lot? Because she looks hungover and bloated in those bottom pics, and her tweets feel like the rantings of an angry, inebriated woman who’s being fueled by booze and strangers on social media who are liking and supporting her tirades.
That was my first thought when I saw those pix. Seems like an alcoholic bloat.
I think that too. I appears over the year some of her posts were drunken posts as the spelling went downhill, if I remember correctly. And that photo does appear to be alcohol bloat also.
She reminds me of an ex-aunt who was narcissistic and manipulative. It’s a really, really bad situation for kids to be in. Ioan is smart by staying silent and letting her self-implode. Not saying he’s perfect or in the right, necessarily, but she’s clearly playing games and throwing everything at the wall to see what will stick.
This new woman is not a side chick. He is separated from his wife. He is in a new relationship.
I highly doubt Alice became this way overnight. She seems like an excellent candidate for Borderline Personality Disorder (ex Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. Someone above said she’s a bunny-boiler <–%100) My guess is that she has employed manipulative tactics during most of their marriage (emotionally high-maintenance. "I hate you! Don't leave me!!") People like this constantly flip flop from obsessive love to obsessive hate, and as one can cleary see with Alice, are EXHAUSTING. And sometimes dangerous. Most importantly, being w/ BPD are high risk for suicide.
Somebody needs to guard Bianca’s dog Bear then
Brightest spot in this whole story, I am now imagining Bear with a posse of rottweilers in black suit tops with earpieces and reflective black sunglasses. They enter a black SUV, with another security rottweiler driving.
I agree. Mr. Jaded’s ex-wife is exactly like this and she’s put us through similar crazy behaviour over the years.
I don’t know any of these people, and I have nothing to say about the situation, other than he looks an awful lot like Dominic West! They could be brothers! Even a libra, like Dominic.
Yeah, not a very insightful comment. It’s all I got today. Lol
Yikes, I hope Ione is trying to get the children to a safe place. I feel like we’re watching a tragedy unfold in real time. Alice desperately needs help.
That TMZ video never ceases to amaze because it really shows how ingrained Alice’s victim mentality is. She rants on and on about how the woman recording is driving a large Jeep, and then talks about how she, Alice, is in « her little battered Prius » as though that makes her the victim. Here’s a hint Alice: your Prius wouldn’t be battered if you didn’t keep getting in fender benders.
Also she refers to 6 year old daughter in her car so poor girl is used to mom’s meltdowns in public and private. I first saw video posted on Tattle forum by a member who also screenshotted a lot of Alice’s rantings over the years. Alice has just been made aware of Tattle and put a reward of 500 dollars for real life identities for said contributors. Claims they are probably obsessed Hornblower fans who have been jealous of her for 20 years.
I am genuinely worried that she is seriously unwell and her real life friends and family need to help her step away from social media and concentrate on her wellbeing and that of her children.
Here’s my question: As the new girlfriend, why on earth would you want to deal with all this? She’s only 30. Find some guy her own age with a lot less baggage.
He’s rich and famous, handsome for his age, and she wants to be an actress?
If she doesn’t do or say something stupid, this exposure will only do her good.
Because they genuinely love each other? I had to deal with Mr. Jaded’s batshit crazy ex-wife for years after we got together but stuck it out because I love him. Alice’s behaviour will eventually calm down, either through mandated therapy and/or medical therapy, even the threat of having her kids taken away.
I usually don’t understand this sort of thing, but he’s that handsome (I sound like a broken record) that I get why she’d want to date this particular fellow at least. They’re not at the marrying stage yet, so who knows if this will last.
If this woman gets pregnant, I don’t even want to know what reaction the ex-wife is going to have though.
If his girlfriend gets pregnant, trust me, the ex wife will absolutely explode. Happened to me when I married my husband and we had a kid. His Ex wife went ballistic and threatening.
@GandalfTheMeh – sorry you had to go through that. I went through a similar situation only the ex wife went ballistic and threatening when she found out we’d gotten back together. I was his girlfriend before he met her and she’s been jealous of me for 35 years.
Maybe he’s a really nice, funny man and she loves him.
He may also be much more appreciative of any nice qualities; kindness, funny, genuine etc than someone who hasn’t had an abusive ex.
I know when I left my abusive ex, I really appreciated nice, kind, funny characters that I had never noticed before because I had previously been distracted by the superficial.
Sincerity and appreciation are attractive qualities to genuine people.
Hon, once you’re looking for a partner in your 30s and above you find out real fast that
EVERYONE
Has some kind of “baggage”.
She’s also going after someone who responded to her with a very measured amount of criticism by saying it’s dangerous for this woman to respond to her and that she’s going to to the woman’s retail store to sort things out. So she’s openly threatening others and their businesses on Twitter now, being egged on by her team of 10 other divorced women she met online.
I know some are arguing expecting her to behave “perfectly” is misogynist, but she’s BFF with Celia Walden, is a Laurence Fox defender, is making sure her husband’s co-stars know he said unflattering things about them.
Posting about your pain is one thing; we’ve all crossed social media boundaries there and regretted it! But she has a history of being a dick AND is now hurting random others who are barely involved, so it’s not misogynist to say she has lost her mind and needs to shut this shit down.
She is just awful. Awful. Bet she is constantly venting to her kids about their dad. She gets them worked up and then…posts on Twitter that they are inconsolable to shame their dad? Un-freaking-believable. Abusive. He may not be great, but I wonder if she was emotionally abusive to him and that’s why he was avoidant and working all over the world away from his family. I don’t think he can even engage with any of them without exposing himself and his kids to a whole new round. That woman needs HELP. I don’t think this kind of behavior just suddenly materialized after he left. Even in its lesser forms it is poison.
“Also she refers to 6 year old daughter in her car so poor girl is used to mom’s meltdowns in public and private. I first saw video posted on Tattle forum by a member who also screenshotted a lot of Alice’s rantings over the years. Alice has just been made aware of Tattle and put a reward of 500 dollars for real life identities for said contributors. Claims they are probably obsessed Hornblower fans who have been jealous of her for 20 years.
I am genuinely worried that she is seriously unwell and her real life friends and family need to help her step away from social media and concentrate on her wellbeing and that of her children.”
The tattle drama was top notch entertainment. She was clearly uncomfortable how easily people outside of her bubble see through her lies.
I feel like maybe people are projecting other women’s experiences on to her and hoping he’s like other men who drive women mad because it will prove some point about the overall inhumanity of other men (probably a great many of them) who have treated women badly. But he’s not playing into it.
So far she seems like some kind of anomaly among other women. Everyone goes a little crazy when bad things happen, but …IN PRIVATE, not for public consumption. I wouldn’t put it past myself to go a little wackaroo if I felt I’d be done wrong by a man….but I’m not going to let the public watch and get entertainment from my meltdown. Ultimately, none of us can help her. We can’t get her husband back for her. We can’t help her get a better divorce deal. We can’t help her find another man. We’re just gossiping about her for entertainment, and she’s doing damage to herself. She doesn’t any benefit from a public meltdown. The rest of us get something to talk about to pass the time when we’re bored.
If someone told me she’s doing this to get some kind of influencer partnership worth millions of dollars, at least then I could get behind this. But so far she’s not getting anything out of looking weird in public.
My mom always told me share with her and/ or a trusted confidante but don’t tell everyone your problems because 50% won’t care and the other 50% might even be glad!
Looking for validation on social media is dicey. Get a good divorce lawyer, therapist, surround yourself with good friends, work out anger at gym or punch pillows, love and value yourself and your children , keep a journal and nourish yourself. Life is not fair but there is love and joy beyond a relationship breakdown and her children are still her pride and joy.
I agree with your mom’s advice! I believe this to be true.
There’s a hell of a lot of projection going on in this thread.
If y’all think she’s a bunny boiler then why doesn’t he have the kids? Good looking man gets off scott free, woman clearly needing help, menopausal which is when crazy really happens is blamed because… Obviously. She’s a wreck, no doubt. He could be helping. Like the therapist above said there are red flags but some people are busy talking about their partner’s ex and her as though they’re the same person. They are not.
If he’s such a great guy he’d be looking after his kids. He’s in France now we know thanks to Bianca’s bff who updates us here, and spent huge amounts of time in Australia. He could work in la.
I simply said he’s not playing into the social media game she’s trying to needle him into. I have no idea what he’s like in private.
He could be crazy (anything is possible), but he’s not playing the game to prove this hypothesis to the public. If saying that bothers people, oh well, He could be a smooth operator who knows how to hide his lies well, but the fact is he’s not giving the public proof of anything. Even Brad and Angelina would slip up and confirm timelines. This guy, nada. Maybe we’ll figure out what he’s been up to when he gives an interview for the new show. And then I’ll change my mind into thinking he’s a weirdo too. There was a a bit of time during the confirmation of his relationship on Instagram where I paused and wondered if he might be a cad. Then the wife went berserk online and I went back to thinking the worst about her.
Until he gives proof of some kind of unhealthy behaviour from his end like she’s constantly doing, we can only speculate about her for the time being. He’s not giving away anything. Maybe that bugs people — I’m not sure. Well, it clearly bugs her.
This social media stuff is not helping her. That is for certain. We’re just gossiping about her and she’s continuing to melt down. She needs a friend who will tell her to stop so that she can benefit and get to a better place rather than allow the rest of us getting too much entertainment gossip out of this. Ultimately this is what is is — entertainment for people like me who enjoy a bit of gossip. Can Piers Morgan step in? Somebody ought to tell her how she’s being received to help her out a bit. Does she have friends?
Boy, talk about projection.
Because he was the lead of a show there and on Liar with The Joanna Froggatt.
And he is in France filming The Reunion . One of them had to work and that was him
And he was not getting work in LA so he took the jobs overseas .
As to why he does not have the kids it is still an ongoing case and his eldest wont se him unless Alice is there
And how could he help ? By going back to her after she has accused him of all sorts like abusing the kids
He could get work in LA? LOL You think he’s some big actor. He’s not. Actors take the jobs they are offered. He even admitted in an interview getting work after moving to LA didn’t work out like he planned, though he said it’s really not in LA. It’s in other states and Canada where many TV shows and movies are filmed. Still that would have put him closer in commuting distance. He took the jobs offered, like Australia, and said he was thankful to get them. He once had one L.A. job many years ago, and it got cancelled. He goes off to location to support his family.
I honestly don’t know anything about these two. I haven’t even followed them on here much simply because I don’t know who they are. But just from this, it seems like she’s hurting a lot. It would be ideal if she kept her stuff more private and kept the kids out of it, but she’s clearly coming from a place of pain, not rationality. It seems like a stretch that she would lose custody over some angry tweets, but who knows? I just hope everyone in this scenario finds healing and peace.
You have summed up my thoughts perfectly. Thank you.
It’s not just some tweets, it is what she is putting in those tweets.
She’s going to end up losing her kids ala Kelly Rutherford. She’s toxic as hell.
I get the vibes neither of them are that great. He has a new girlfriend two decades younger than him and seems like he isn’t around much for the kids (it does seem like she does most of the parenting unless I’m missing something) and she is clearly having a breakdown. I’m team kids, maybe there are some stable grandparents or other family who could step in and help out for a bit.
Yeah I don’t get all the caping for Ioan in these threads. He did the classic trade in the “old model” wife for a younger woman in her 20’s. He’s such a sad cliche.
I think at this point his ex-wife is in the midst of a severe mental health crisis and I’m not super interested in piling on.
I scrolled through her posts on Twitter and Instagram, and I can see why people don’t like her much. She seemed unlikable even before the divorce. I’m wondering if she was disliked even when she was actually married to him.
Seems like maybe she’s always been an over-sharer. But this time her over-sharing is about her divorce instead of whatever what was going on in her life before (loving Piers Morgan to death? Why?).
Alice Evans was a problematic racist before he ever filed for divorce (but indeed while their marriage was apparently breaking down) and his silence doesn’t mean any of what she says is true. She just wrote the most invasive “confession” for the Daily Mail exposing not just her and him but their children. People caping for her is the mystery, and it’s not anti-patriarchal – it’s the normalization of narcissistic abuse.
Most people are not caping for him. They are just horrified to see someone use their own kids like she is doing.
Her rant at the Youtuber when she is clearly in the wrong says a lot about her.
Thank you for the nuance – how is it a good thing that he’s basically an absent father in real life? Esp. if his ex is as bad as some commenters believe she is? And the younger GF thing is suddenly okay again as well? While it’s indeed such a tired cliché.
I know he’s handsome, but let’s put off those patriarchal glasses people.
I’m never going to meet Ioan Gruffud, so I don’t feel the need to get bothered by his choice of a younger girlfriend.
If I knew him personally maybe I’d be bugged and judgy. But since there’s no chance of me ever meeting this guy, I can’t feel worked up about what his taste leans towards.
What’s wrong with having a younger girlfriend. His life, his choice.
Last year she waged a vicious attack against Meghan Markle, and I couldn’t understand. She’s a wife and mother. Why is she angry with Meghan Markle? Now it’s clear she was going through some things and needed a scapegoat for her pain. Life always comes full circle. In the end, she’s still the loser.
@Robin Samuels — why is it ok to hate on others because one is miserable? Meghan does not know and will never know her! looking at those pictures, I understand why women like Meghan or Angelina or any stunning woman sometimes gets hate but why is it ok?
We shouldn’t excuse it because she was going through something; if one is not well, why hate another woman instead of seeing a therapist?
Hopefully those kids are taken care of!
I hope some people gave her the own medicine she gave Meghan, but it seems Ioan is taking care of that
She showed a photo of her pre-pandemic thinness on Twitter (I scrolled through). This weight gain she talks of must be very recent (maybe from spending too much time sitting and tweeting? Or, alternatively, from being in quarantine.)
In most of her photos where she’s on the red carpet, she doesn’t look what I would call fat. She looks quite tall, but not fat. And her weight seems appropriate to her height. I wouldn’t expect a woman that tall to be extra petite like Natalie Portman. I can’t see him criticizing what she looked like when she was actually with him since she doesn’t look bad figure-wise in the photos. Sure, the 29 year old with no kids probably looks extra fit, but Alice doesn’t actually look fat in terms of size in any of the red carpet, pre-yesterday photos. Is her version of pre-pandemic fat like Gwyneth’s version or something? If she were never actually fat (until 3 days ago) how would it even come up that he’d tell her to lose weight?
If Ioan Gruffud were to have criticized her, I figure he would have criticized the lip injections and other plastic surgery options, I don’t see her pre-pandemic weight being a point of contention for him. She’s done something to her face though. She was very beautiful before and then did something weird to her face to age it upwards.
She sounds like she has issues with her body image. She’d not be the first, let alone the last, woman to feel that way, to be quite stick thin and still look in the mirror and see themselves as nothing but fat. These thoughts are not rational. They are the result of your mind being unable to see yourself through anything except a very distorted lens.
Yes, I believe she has issues with her own body image.
I just have my doubts he had an issue with her body.
Just did a deep dive on her on her IG. Ioan seems disconnected in the last several photos she posted of him when they are taking selfies together, like just checked out. She seemed VERY braggy about him and his shirtless Facetime photos. If I were dating Justin Trudeau or anyone equally as hot, I would not be bragging about it that much, but maybe that is just me.. I am a bit superstitious and would fear that behavior would come back to haunt me as it seemingly has done for her. She looked normal in her throwback photos with her natural hair color. Her eyes look off in recent photos and my first thought was a prescription drug dependency.
There’s an old blues song, “Women, Don’t Advertise Your Man.”
I can’t say I understand the need for grown adult people to proclaim their “Instagram official” relationships. It’s all so very high school.
I’m getting some serious Elizabeth Broderick vibes from this one.
Given the Alice’s behavior, I can definitely understand wanting to get it out there in the open on your own terms before she spews it everywhere in her ‘you are satan and the devil and will burn in hell forever’ kind of way.
IG is probably the fastest means of doing so without looking too try-hard and doesn’t involve the tabloids directly. Ioan is a British actor, he knows as well as anyone what sort of rabid dogs they can be, and Alice is either friends with Piers Morgan or is a Piers Morgan stan, not clear. It could easily get VERY ugly. Er, ugly-er.
I think there was a reason for that. Alice has been nonstop on twitter for almost a year. No matter what he did it enraged her. The only way to really control his own narrative on publicly dating this girl was to do this. It was still going to set Alice off, but at least it was moving on with someone publicly on his own terms.
I mean, how else was he supposed to do it? If he just lived his life and a photo was taken of them by a paparazzi, or whomever, and in some magazine or website, Alice would then be carrying on that he was caught, blah, blah, blah. She says he should have told her and/or the girls first. I disagree. He and Alice are unable to talk at all these days, so there is no reason to. And the girls. Why? The girls would have naturally told mom and Alice would be on twitter with a whole storyline of how he did told the girls that was probably mostly made up. He can’t win on this. So he let it out there. And he will now have a rational discussion with his daughters, that daddy is dating. I doubt he has plans to introduce this new girlfriend to them anytime soon .
But Alice is poisoning these little girls’ minds day in and day out. I really don’t believe she wants them to have a good relationship with their father.
I wonder what Ioan’s mother is like. I have found men who are genuinely not bad guys who involve themselves with women like this had an abusive, manipulative mother themselves and are trying to work out what they didn’t work out with their mother through their new wife. I have a guy best friend who did just that and they are recently divorced. I didn’t understand why he got with such a horrible person, but then I remembered our childhood and his mother and it all made sense. He told me his ex wife gave him the affection he craved and he overlooked many things that he should have in order to receive that love. It is the exact same way women get with abusive men. I am not sure if this is the case here, just throwing out another scenario to ponder.
I feel for their children the most to be seemingly dragged into this. I hope they set some money aside for therapy, because those kids are going to need it!
His parents are fine and he gets along great with them ,both ex-teachers who have been married for 50 odd years and his dad taught him,Matthew Rhys( his bestie) and Iwan Rheon
Add Matthew and Keri got together when she left her husband for him
Sometimes people fall out of love and fall into love with other people. I know cheating is viewed as wrong on most levels on this site, but sometimes it really works out for the best that the cheating occurred and is only a symptom of a greater problem. Keri and Matthew seem happy together. Maybe it was for the best rather than to be unhappy with someone else. I know two women ATM miserable with their husbands who would give anything for some passion and they are a bit stuck; one is financially dependent on the husband and one’s husband is financially dependent on her. This happens more often than one wants to believe(unhappiness after kids).
Honestly. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that I doubt Ioan Gruffudd actually said anything about her weight. What I’ll bet is the case is that Alice Evans herself is the one who actually can’t abide by “fatties”. She’s simply projecting her own feelings and thoughts about the subject onto someone else. I don’t doubt that Hollywood, or showbiz in general, is a tough crowd with these things. But I’m going to say that 100% of the case here is her own internal voice bringing her down for becoming a “fattie”.
There was an interesting profile of her on the Telegraph that was written up around the time 102 Dalmatians came out. It’s worth a read. My takeaway from that is that her issues have been present since before she even got married to Ioan Gruffudd. She talks about how she has to watch what she eats in that, how she could eat whatever she wanted until she was 25 but now can’t even look at certain foods because they’ll make her gain weight. I’d link to it here, but my previous comment with the link didn’t get posted. You can find it referenced in her Wikipedia page.
I do feel bad for her, in a way. I don’t think she’s living the life she wanted to be living, or hoped she’d be living, by a long shot. She’d hardly be the first bitter, angry white woman taking out her frustrations on the world through social media though.
Well, it can be both. He can have told her he doesn’t want her to gain weight, or expressed an opinion about women who aren’t thin, and she can be the one getting down on herself and going on about “fatties” and projecting.
We don’t know what their marriage was like or what he is like. He is certainly more discreet than she is, and better about keeping his mouth shut. She is clearly difficult and kind of nasty. But he might have been in the wrong, too.
Is Ioan pronounced “Ian” or “ee-oo-aahn”?
I believe it’s Yo-aun. or Yo-an. I’m not quite sure which.
His name is pronounced Yo-an Griffith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jpNodOu1sM&ab_channel=MatthewRhysOnline
He says it on this
OMG the accents! But Matthew Rhys is cuter, IMHO.
That is his buddie from school ,Ioan’s Dad taught the both of them , they lived together for 10 years in London when they went to RADA together and then LA and Matthew was best man at his wedding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=razZHEeNrFE&t=96s&ab_channel=marykeith47
I feel sorry for the kids because I’ve been there between two battling parents (like most kids of custody battles) and the memories are scaring. I’m 49 now, and I can still remember being five years old standing there watching my mother unleash verbal hell on my gentle natured father. It sticks with you and I wouldn’t want to wish that on anyone.
Alice needs to knock off the public confession nonsense and put the family linen back in the cupboard and reassure the kids with love and kindness. This kind of stuff is going to work against her in fighting for custody, because once it’s on the internet it lives forever.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10146031/Ioan-broken-heart-TWICE-ALICE-EVANS-gives-account-rejection-agony-family-destroyed.html
No, just no. I’ve been through a divorce and it’s brutal – and neither of us was at our best during any of it, so I won’t judge either of them for how they are at their worst, but for the love of Pete, do NOT post these sorts of intimate details on the internet.
Did Piers Morgan convince her to write this? She needs to make some new friends…
This!
And if women don’t agree with her public over exposure, we are demonstrating internalized misogyny. We must believe her version of events. We must believe he didn’t get fed up and move on because he put up with it for 20 years ( so why leave now?). We must ignore that he’s working and believe he’s not interested with custody of the children.
What judge just removes children without evidence said removal is in the best interest of the children?
If he had a new less thin, less attractive ,older girlfriend would it be okay for him to move on then?
I don’t know his story, his intentions or whether or not he cheated but I am divorced, never pulled my child into the divorce, never maligned her dad and never tried to alienate my child from him.
Long bouts of separation can cast new light to existing relationships old and new, add the effects of the pandemic as well as increasing manipulation and aggression from a partner and divorce may happen.
I remember when Toni Tennile divorced the “Captain ” after almost 40 years. I wished her health and wellness. I hope these children get to experience a non toxic, non hostile future with love from both parents if possible.
Journal, therapy and healing are alternatives to this public display..
Jeez, this story is even being reported on in Danish tabloids, which is kinda extraordinary since neither of them are that famous – but her online behaviour is so unhinged that it is attracting international attention.
So she’s unlikable. So what? Probably half the people in this world are unlikable. Just because we know nothing of her partner, who is clearly following the good advice of his lawyer and shutting up, we can’t assume we know anything of their relationship. And like an above poster said, why are people caping for him? He could be unlikable too (certainly trading in the old model for one 19 years her junior is not laudable. Why is this even a story? No one even knows who they are in this country.
It’s a story because she wrote an article in The Daily Mail about her relationship and marriage (“By Alice Evans in The Daily Mail”).
THIS is a S-show, its horrible and she is not totally innocent in the way she is handling this.
Girl, hit him in the pockets and keep your cool as YOU and your kids go to therapy.
that crazy thing she does with her lips, freaks me out.
They have a pre-nup which she funnily enough posted about . on a show and
I understand her anger and her pain. She’s not going to tweet her way out of custody of her children because he doesn’t want custody, he’s quite content with visitation and doesn’t want the day to day responsibility that would interfere with the new love life. I’ll bet if the culture was, at a divorce the man get primary custody of the children there would be less men walking away.
There so much as women we don’t talk about, don’t talk about miscarriage, don’t talk about abortion, don’t talk about the pain of divorce, don’t talk about infertility issues, etc, etc, etc. She’s talking and if it helps her cope so be it.
I think a lot of people talk about the pain of divorce. That seems to be the common point of pain for a lot of people. I don’t think I’ve not heard a Hollywood star at some point not discuss their divorce.
if he is the only one working then he needs to concentrate on that. he cant afford to lose his job otherwise where can he pay for child support. maybe if alice spent more time taking care of her kids instead of whining against her ex things would be better. we dont know anything about him – he has been silent for a reason – working in australia to make money to pay for his children is what he has been doing for at least 2 years – unfair to blame him for not wanting full custody of the kids
More like three years. I believe 2018, ’19, and ’20. This is his fourth season on Harrow. He had the series Liar in the UK before that. He said he was thankful for those jobs. He isn’t some massive actor who has his pick of work, and he admitted he had a long dry spell in L.A. , as far as getting jobs, which could have meant filming in L.A., NYC, Canada, Atlanta, on and on, not necessarily close to home, but within commuting distance.
And his working is what supports his family. His net worth isn’t Ewan McGregor level or even his best friend’s level, Matthew Rhys. Now two households will be split, which gets expensive in a divorce. She wants to destroy his career. How does that benefit her and the children? She brings in no income.
People say she has no friends in America. She has lived in Los Angeles for 18 years, since 2003. Quite a group of UK actors/actresses live in America also. Why does she have no friends? Her kids were born here. He isn’t going to rip his kids away from L.A. to go live in Australia and far away from their mother and their lives while he spends long hours on set. I don’t see Alice reining it in for her kids at all I see her getting worse. Maybe if she realizes it won’t help her career to be acting so crazy that will force her to rein in her twitter tirades.
I felt sorry for him when I read her Daily Mail article. She tweeted their seperation midway through a argument. WHAT THE HELL
I started to wonder if it was the Twitter addiction that broke her marriage, not emotional or physical infidelity.
Maybe she could have had a chance at reconciliation if she hadn’t tweeted everything immediately.
That she feels the article would garner sympathy and doesn’t see how it shows she’s horrifying is probably only the smallest window into this woman’s lack of self-awareness.
She and Ioan suck. Hope the kids realize it at some point and actively work to be like neither.
How do we know everything is saying is the truth? That’s what I don’t quite understand.
With Dominic West (the one who was with Lily James) or that guy who was with Kristen Stewart for a time, we knew they cheated because there was actual incontrovertible, photographic proof. We’ve even seen Justin Timberlake looking a bit inebriated with another lady in a photo. There are countless other celebrities where I’ve seen some version of the same thing. Then there’s Ben Affleck with the nanny who was wearing Tom Brady’s Super Bowl rings (I think?). There’s usually some pap photo confirming the worst, even when people are trying to hide their indiscretions.
But in the case of Ioan Gruffud we only have the wife’s word he was doing something behind her back. Have any other sources (including mutual friends of the couple) confirmed his cheating? I can believe he probably wasn’t always calm, cool and collected (is anyone in a marriage?), I assume most spouses see the worst of their partners and that he has a few personality flaws as we all do, but how does everyone know he actually cheated? On the one hand, I can believe it happening because he’s an actor and he seems charming enough to get another woman while married if he wanted, but on the other hand, I’m not sure why she’s considered to be some kind of truth-sayer about the alleged cheating. . Sure, if Reese Witherspoon or any other actress said her husband cheated on her, I’d believe them. But I’m not sure about her. In fact, I’d probably believe her in any other instance, but since she’s going off so often and so quickly without time to spare I’m not sure what to think in her case.
A woman on Twitter says she knows Bianca and Ioan haven’t even known each other for three years. It wouldn’t surprise me if Ioan had cheated, but I don’t think it was with Bianca and I don’t think Bianca deserves the vitriol being spewed at her. Alice is on Twitter responding to the people making negative comments about Bianca.
I’m annoyed because I hate when men divorce their wives after so long and end up with a younger woman when the dating pool for women is terrible. It’s a fear of mine, honestly. But I wouldn’t want to be with her either based on her actions. Stop weaponizing the children. Lawyer up, get your share of the money, get your kids in therapy. Stop trying to alienate them from their dad. It never works out well. They grow up and they resent you, too. The best revenge is living well. And she doesn’t seem to be living well. She’s on Twitter talking about getting a team Alice hashtag going and retweeting old photos of her. Yeesh. She also gave an interview to the DM and said, “ The feeling nobody in a relationship — even one that’s seen better days —wants to feel: My God. They are a couple. He has a girlfriend! But, he’s my husband…”
She still considers herself in a relationship with him.
The idea that men have midlife crises and ditch their wives for a younger model is a bit (not a total, but a bit) of a myth. Most (I think it’s about 75%) divorces are now initiated by the wives. As women got more financial freedom and career options, they were not as trapped in their marriages as before and many women decide to leave mediocre marriages, whereas they had no choice in the past but to stay.
That was obviously not the case here, but it bugs me when people assume that women are always the ones getting dumped – when in fact, many women are the ones doing the dumping. The reason fewer women remarry is somewhat because the available pool isn’t awesome – and somewhat because a lot of women realize that marriage isn’t so great for them if they have financial autonomy and they no longer need to procreate.
Ok, off of feminist soapbox now.
I don’t assume it’s always the women getting dumped. It just doesn’t make me sad when a woman throws the whole man away. It’s usually for good reason. The midlife crisis situation makes me sad and it makes me feel insecure, especially having a husband that women swoon over that makes really good money for the area we live in.
After reading Alice’s essay on the Daily Mail, I ended up feeling more sympathy for the husband, even if he did really turn out to be a cheater. I can’t imagine spending 20 years with someone that’s so addicted to drama and documenting everything for social media, with no respect for her partner’s boundaries.
Tweeting to let the word know she and her husband are fighting while still in the middle of it… really shows where her priorities are!
It’s a train wreck and I do feel guilty that I can’t stop watching…
When she tweeted in the middle of the fight, it suddenly made sense he lawyered up the next day and cut off all contact.
If she had not tweeted and perhaps given him a bit of space, I wonder if he might have cooled down and reconsidered getting back together.
I don’t know who they are but that man has major massive douche bro face. She comes across as unhinged, but he’s probably been gaslighting her for years. I’ve seen it before. And, yes, blonde lady, you’ve said enough: pick yourself off the floor, go exercise, focus on yourself and your children.
Seen a lot of comments that say he’s handsome and I guess he checks all the boxes, but something about him screams smarmy to me.
I wonder if the pandemic “caused” their divorce.
With all the doom and gloom surrounding the pandemic, a lot of people seemed to have epiphanies about where the lives were headed in the past two years, and have sought out divorces, regardless of whether they’re living with their spouse or working away from home.
I just have my doubts it was this younger woman that caused any trouble. Maybe there was some other woman (a “hook-up” on set maybe) in a night of passion that led him to some realization (probably could have even been a woman closer to his own age, for all we know ) — or maybe that didn’t happen either (we have no proof).
But the relationship with this younger woman looks more recent as no source seemed to hint at her name and existence prior to the Instagram reveal. Even Alice Evans admits she had to google her. But if this Bianca Wallace had nothing to do with the marriage break-up, it’s pretty wacko to drag her name through an article in the Daily Mail. It might be a cliche she’s younger, and a hint of youth seems to get a rise out of people, but if she’s innocent of any wrongdoing, I don’t think Alice Evans should be gunning for her like this in an article.
Why does it have to be a third party involved. What if it just a case as you stated, that he took a long hard look at what his life had been like and decided this far and no more. Not all divorces are caused by infidelity.
Marriages fall apart for all kinds of reasons. But staying in a toxic marriage is the worst thing for anyone, especially children.
I’m leaning towards no third party being involved.
But I mention the other probabilities since she and those who side with her seem so insistent it’s true.
You see, I don’t even think she’s in just a lot of pain once they split. It’s even more than pain. It’s complete devastation losing someone you love. I do feel for her in that respect.
I still find her manipulation of her children absolutely despicable, because I think she does that continually and will continue to do so to punish him. All parents in a split aren’t expected to be perfect. It’s such an awful time. But her behavior appears to be ongoing and not letting up regarding the use of her children.
“My 7 yo got home from her dads and kindly, almost jokingly, but with intent showed her the article where it said that her daddy had filed for a divorce form her Mommy in the High Court of Los Angeles and he hadn’t told us so he probably hadn’t told her either so we were just letting her know and she ran away screaming saying ‘no!! No! My daddy would NEVER do that to my Mommy’.”
But it’s older comments like above that shows she’s just somewhat unhinged, The “kindly, almost jokingly, but with intent” showed her little girl the article, etc. Kindly? Almost jokingly” Really? She delighted in what she did to her little seven-year-old to get the reaction she got. Her little girl came home all happy from her time with daddy. Alice wasn’t going to have that, now, was she?
She admitted she showed the girls the post of the new girlfriend and asked if people expected her to lie for him. Why even tell the girls? Why not let Ioan tell them? Who even knows how serious it is. I know if I got divorced I wouldn’t be telling my kids about my dating life until it was serious.
Someone tweeted about her: “ Clueless to how her PUBLIC comments were received, can only imagine how she speaks to someone she actually knows, much less a spouse in private equally without a clue to how offensive she can be.”
And she replied: “ And what are you ‘imagining’ now about me? Are you in the shower?
Pervs like you creep me out.”
What the heck?
Someone also pointed out she left her previous partner for Ioan and she went on a rant about how she was faithful to Ioan for 20 years. He didn’t say she cheated on Ioan.
Something isn’t right with this woman. She also changed her Twitter bio to say she found out her husband has been leading a double life with a woman half his age.
And she claims she can’t work because he’s off working. ??? Plenty of parents get jobs with less resources than she has available.
I’m very skeptical about him being a smarmy gaslighter. If she’s sharing text messages and the worst she can pull out are the ones where he politely asks her not to interrupt his calls with the kids….I’m thinking he doesn’t have much toxic communication towards her.
Also, he’s not in demand in Hollywood. He had a show and was so hopeful about it but it flopped.
Also, someone correct me but back during the Metoo news run, wasn’t he named as a blacklisted artist bc his wife turned down the wrong man? I could be totally wrong but I remember his name in an article.
Unless I see something to say otherwise, he’s a working father that isn’t going to disturb his kids living arraignments and finds the most lucrative work possible considering HIS particular acting history.
Good luck to the kids and I hope she gets in serious therapy.
Her body changed a long time ago, before they even had kids. She was model skinny when they got together, but she’s been yo-yoing for like 12-13 years. It’s far from the first time she’s looked like she does in the recent photos. If he had a problem with her gaining weight he’d have left a very long time ago.