Madonna thinks her young lovers are “more than just sexual, um, appendages”

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Madonna covers Harper’s Bazaar in her usual decadent manner. That is, the camera points at Madge, who is in turn pointing the camera at actress Andrea Riseborough, who plays a mythical version of Wallis Simpson in the Madge-directed W.E., which not only paints its director as a raging Nazi sympathizer but also reveals itself (at least, through its trailer) as a beautiful mess. At the very least, W.E. is most definitely some degree of revisionist history, but it remains unclear how much of that is yet to be accepted or not.

To promote the film and in an interview entitled “Madonna: The Director’s Cut,” the Material Girl describes to Harper’s (as interviewed by feminist author Naomi Wolf) how hard it is to be a director as well as giving platonically intimate details about her relationship with 24-year-old French breakdancer Brahim Zaibat. Seriously, he’s not just a piece of meat:

On Film: “Making movies is really hard. It’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I believe sometimes we aren’t always in charge of everything that we do creatively. We submit to things as we’re going on our own journey. Wally was learning about herself, and so was I — on my own journey and the journey of all women. I don’t work any other way.”

On W.E.: “When I brought up the subject of Wallis Simpson to people when I was living in England, I was astounded by the outrage that was provoked by her name. The movie is all about the cult of celebrity. We like to put people on a pedestal, give them one character trait, and if they step outside of that shrinelike area that we blocked out for them, then we will punish them. Wallis Simpson became famous by default, by capturing the heart of the king, but it’s obviously a subject I’m constantly on the inside of, and the outside of.”

On Parallels Between W.E. & Herself: “I think my behavior and my lifestyle threaten a lot of social norms, like the movie does. I think there are a lot of parallels and connections. I think it’s just that as a creative person, in all the different things that I’ve done or ways that I’ve found to express myself, I’ve consistently come up against resistance in certain areas. I think that the world is not comfortable with female sexuality. It’s always coming from a male point of view, and a woman is being objectified by a man — and even women are comfortable with that. But when a woman does it, ironically, women are uncomfortable with it. I think a lot of that has to do with conditioning.”

On Mothering: “Well, I say to Lourdes, schoolwork always comes first, so anything that gets in the way of that falls by the wayside. We put our energy in education. She loves fashion and style. She helps design the collection. I just stand in the background and watch. I proofread her blogs and edit them and give her a hard time when I think she’s being a lazy writer.”

On Ageism: “I find whenever someone writes anything about me, my age is right after my name. It’s almost like they’re saying, ‘Here she is, but remember she’s this age, so she’s not that relevant anymore.’ Or ‘Let’s punish her by reminding her and everyone else.’ When you put someone’s age down, you’re limiting them.”

On Her Goals: :To have fun, that’s the main issue. To continue to be a provocateur, to do what we perceive as the realm of young people, to provoke, to be rebellious, to start a revolution.”

On What She Looks For In A Lover: “Well, it can also be more than just sexual, um, appendages. I don’t necessarily like to use the word lover because it sounds like they just come over and have sex with you. I aspire to more than that, and I need more than that. Respect for women and understanding that everything must be earned. Those are two big ones. Someone to share my inner life with. That’s extremely important. It’s also important that my children admire and respect this partner that I would choose for myself. Especially for my sons, who have their father [ex-husband Guy Ritchie], but they need a male role model as well. So I need to keep this in mind: What is this person modeling to my sons, what kind of man is he, what values does he have, what energy is he giving off? Because they are impressionable. It’s so important.”

[From Harper's Bazaar]

Such delusions. Where to begin? Yes, I do agree wtih Madonna that it’s incredibly important to see what “energy” that a hot young piece is giving off — particularly when he chooses to grab your ass in front of your grade-school-aged young children. And yes, ageism is petty and inexcusable, but it’s also futile to pretend that age does not exist in any shape or form. As for W.E. as an extension of Madonna’s very own self, well, now we know what she decided to make the film, right?

Now, what of this photoshoot? Madonna points a camera. And she’s, like, really smart and controversial and such a visionary because she dons some spectacles. Worship her.

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Photos courtesy of Harper’s Bazaar

 

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  1. gee says:

    Whoever styled her for this shoot should style her every single day and probably win a pulitzer. She never looks this good (and I’m not talking about the obvious photoshopping of her face).

  2. Katyusha says:

    I thought that was Courtney Stodden in the header pic!

    She’s ruined mouths forever.

  3. Jackie says:

    ya, she has used and changed the wallis life story to reflect her own experiences and beliefs. ugh.

    as usual, the more she talks, the less intelligent she seems. always been a fan of her music and videos, but such a disappointment in interviews.

  4. NM9005 says:

    Exquisite styling!!!

    Oh Madge, everything has to revolve around you somehow.
    And I don’t think she had “fun” since 2001…

    Sidenote: her new single sucks, not looking forward to her new cd, I thought it was going to Ray of Light 2.0 but it’s going to be some sort of American Candy.

  5. constance says:

    Oh Madonna. She is really pining over the fact she’s not as young and relevant than she used to be.

    I can’t bash her for trying everything to be seen. I’m just not interested in her or her “music” anymore. It just doesn’t do anything for me and I’m still less than half her age. LOL

  6. Eleonor says:

    I don’t understand the last photo, is she walking toward us (like her knees and the shoes make me think) or is she walking away (we see only the hair)?

  7. Jaded says:

    Oh sure, then her sons are going to aspire to be buffed back-up dancers who aspire to find a rich old lady to sleep with and keep them in a style they couldn’t otherwise afford. Puhleeeze….

  8. Waldemar says:

    “Worship her.”

    I will.

  9. teehee says:

    Wait- they put the ages of EVERYONE after their name. Apparently its only bad in her mind.

  10. sapphire says:

    She is beautifully styled-chic, great clothes. Does nothing for how little she has to say: same old crap-”I’m so edgy, no one can approach me”. Sorry, that stopped being even mildly controversial in the 80s.

  11. filterfreejenny says:

    “Especially for my sons, who have their father [ex-husband Guy Ritchie], but they need a male role model as well.”

    I love when celebrities talk.

  12. Elizabeth says:

    @ filterfreejenny :
    Yeah, I thought that was weird too. Isn’t Guy Ritchie (their father) a male role model to her sons? Why do they need some male bimbo there too? Does he add something extra to the role model mix?? Teaching them how to be a male piece of ass perhaps.

  13. Flan says:

    @filterfreejenny: that’s a great quote, hehe.

  14. mia girl says:

    In that first photo (cover), it looks like Madonna is just about to lean in and suck the virgin blood right out of the young and unsuspecting Andrea Riseborough.

  15. Abby says:

    Nice cover and photo spread, Madge. I don’t even care that it was photoshopped to death.

  16. Alexa says:

    I LOVE MADGE and I find her interesting.

  17. Francesca says:

    The glasses aren’t a prop anymore; at 50+ you need them to see… regardless, Madonna is an icon. Whatever she does will bring attention, even if it is only negative.

  18. Kimbob says:

    Well, of course Madonna’s going to rail against “ageism.” I would’ve given her more merit regarding such IF she wasn’t ALWAYS chasing after youth….in her plastic surgeries….in her men…in her outlook (because she ALWAYS has to be avant-garde…and….youth-oriented). Nope. Not buying what you’re selling anymore, Madonna.

    Again, I would’ve respected her views of ageism if she was aging gracefully herself…but she’s NOT. She’s not a sage, wise woman. She’s fighting age tooth and nail and she’s hyper-aware of such in an overt, egocentric manner.

    She’s so self-centered/absorbed and just plain SCARED of getting older….it is very uncomfortable to document and witness such.

  19. I Choose Me says:

    I see the name Zaibat and my mind keep interpreting it as jailbait. :0

    I kinda like the photoshoot but those glasses makes her look like the pseudo-intelluctual she is.

  20. Rhiley says:

    She sounds like Lindsay Lohan talking about Marilyn Monroe. I seriously doubt she is looking for someone to spend her life with. Oh, and wouldn’t you hate to work for the Material Girl cloting line? To have young Lordes bossing you around as her mummy stands behind her and nods her head good, shakes her head bad.

  21. Criss says:

    Madonna,
    Putting your age down after your name is not a punishment. It is to show how good you look at a certain age, when a lot of others don’t take care of themselves like you do. And, girlfriend, you’re only 50, in Palm Springs you’re considered jail bate. Plus dating a man young enough to be your son isn’t making you look younger, it does the opposite. There are gorgeous men 40 plus that have it all going on, plus they know how to take care of a woman.

  22. jermsmom says:

    @kimbob – very well said, totally agree!

  23. catt says:

    So Madonna says she wants to (still) start a revolution? Well the only revolution Madge should start is to celebrate her age instead of hiding it…. /de-plastic surgery herself and show women a new celebratory way to enter their fifties. Now that would be something. And also will never happen.

  24. Kloops says:

    Sheesh. She’s so vapid and unintelligent. She makes her age an issue by obviously trying to deny it with ridiculous plastic surgery and much younger men. She’s a shallow as any man who does the same thing. Neither is more admirable than the other, both are pathetic. Want me to respect you? Embrace your age and own it. There’s nothing edgey about her. She’s a joke.

  25. Kimbob says:

    @jermsmom..thank you! I also like what @cat..#24 and what @Criss said. It certainly is gratifying that I’m not the only one that has certain impressions/opinions of “Ms. Madonna!”

    Edit: Just saw @Kloops opinion, too. Bravo!

  26. Jayna says:

    Fantastic shoot and styling. And whoever did both women’s makeup, fantastic job. Love the pallette of soft colors.

    I don’t always agree with everything Madonna says, but I so agree about her age. I see so many posts by men on sites like HuffingtonPost calling her old, dried up, very insultful. It’s rampant the ageism towards women compared to men.

    Rock on, Madonna. March to your own drummer. Don’t be put in a box.

  27. blonde on the dock says:

    Never liked her music and she comes across as a real bitch but I love her regardless.

  28. Nev says:

    bitch looks AMAZING.

    she has earned any surgeries or young lovers…

    who cares?

    she can do whatever she wants.

  29. Kimberly says:

    i felt bad that Madge only had 20something comments so i clicked in to give her a generic comment, so not to bruise her old fart ego.

    Then I saw this in the interview:

    ” . . .I think that the world is not comfortable with female sexuality. It’s always coming from a male point of view, ” Was she sleeping in her lazy boy during her surguries while the whole Sex in the City age swept threw the country and every girl was slutting around in the name of “modern woman”?

    I guess the human growth hormones are effecting her memory, or it’s just her old age, but the world is comfortable with woman’s sexuality. sorry but it’s true. Maybe she surrounds herself w/ idiots to think this way, but ummm it’s not 1986 anymore or even 1996.

    This old fart is just boring and unoriginal!!!!!!!

  30. original kate says:

    madge looks great with hornrims.

  31. jean says:

    It’s funny how older, male rockers like Vince Neil,Bono,Steven Tyler and Mick Jagger still perform and date and marry much younger women and no one mocks them.

    Even women can’t see the sexism here.

  32. Jayna says:

    Kimberly, you just made her point. You called a vibrant woman in her early fifties “old” and “old fart.”. Wow.

  33. SCREEEE says:

    WOW. Way harsh. Not even a fan, not even a little bit, but I think you went too far. I’m usually on board with the Madge-bashing, but this seemed pretty thoughtful. How about the good points she made? Ageism is a thing, and she has undeniably done a lot to pave the way for over-30 singers. How about that (photoshop aside) she looked hot? Or is that only worth mentioning when you like the person in question?

    I still NEVER want to have dinner with her, but the quotes and pictures from this article definitely didn’t deserve the vitriol you gave. Still love you way more than her, but check yoooseeelf! x

  34. Michelle says:

    Ugh, what a bad photoshoot. Obviously neither are models, because they both look so bored and overly posed. You would think that at least Madonna would have learned something about posing in the face over all these years… or perhaps she can but is unable to show it because of that age issue she would rather not discuss but just ‘tox away…

  35. Callumna says:

    Eventually being afraid to mature — not age but advance mentally into adulthood, and own yourself causes this problem every time.

    She could explore a whole new side of life if she were willing to embrace the joys of growing the F up. Truly.

  36. Kara Ann says:

    ^^Callumna,
    Beautifully put. I do think the media would be just as harsh in reference to her growing older. Say what you will but our society DOES NOT embrace the aging female. However, if Madonna would embrace it herself the media and societal scorn for her only because of her age would hurt much less.

  37. sassy says:

    well…
    people are grossed out by old men dating young women too.

  38. sabine says:

    Madonna looks amazing !!!!!!!!

  39. Power Plate says:

    Madonna looks great in these shots, perfectly styled!