Scientology may very well be on it last legs. In just the past few years, it has (barely) weathered the exposure of its secrets (most effectively through Wikileaks and most amusingly on that infamous “South Park” episode) as well as some high-profile celebrity defections, including Paul Haggis, Jason Beghe, and Lisa Marie Presley. There have also been the accounts from past high-ranking CO$ execs about the punishment and torture that goes on at Gold Base, and of course, there are the various John Travolta scandals as well.
Incidentally and in terms of fresh scandals, the Village Voice has a few other new pieces on the CO$, including a comical story asking why Travolta has not offered public support to Tom during his divorce crisis (answer: Travolta’s too busy covering his own butt via fake marriage) and a more serious one about how Narcanon’s flagship treatment center (in McAlester, Oklahoma) just had its third patient death since October. This damn cult has no business trying to “detoxify” drug users by merely handing addicts vitamins and having them sit in saunas for several hours at a time.
But none of that is really what’s on CO$’s mind right now. What is of major concern to David Miscavige and Co. is that Katie Holmes (by divorcing Tom Cruise, natch) really has blown Scientology wide open because, you know, now even Rupert Murdoch is commenting on the cult’s creepiness. USA Today also has a great piece that interviews Tony Ortega (of the Village Voice) about how the negative energy against the CO$ has been gaining momentum in the weeks since the divorce and how the fallout is at at odds with the cult’s stance that it helps people — when its highest profile member can’t stay married for the third time. Indeed, Cruise really is “the public face of Scientology,” and the Katie-inspired revelations have worked their intended damage. There will be no emergency makeover to ward off the 2005 crazy at this point. Nope. Instead, Miscavige has called a “secret emergency summit” between its (remaining) celebrity members in an effort to change the CO$’s PR tactics. This is ridiculous and of course, it won’t work:
Scientology leader David Miscavige called a secret emergency summit among the controversial church’s top celebrities to deal with the public fallout from Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes’ divorce.
Sources told The Enquirer that among those contacted for the clandestine conference call were Hollywood hot shots John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, Bijou Phillips, Leah Remini, Jenna Elfman and Juliette Lewis.
The church has been on the defensive since Katie blindsided her famous hubby with divorce papers on June 28. Numerous sources have reported that she wanted to protect their 6-year-old daughter, Suri, from falling victim to the religion’s “weird teachings.”
Media outlets have been having a field day with the coverage – the cover of one New York City newspaper featured a mock-up of Tom’s head, with wires attached to it, inside an alien spaceship!
And both Tom and the organization have been the butt of jokes on late-night TV and the internet. Even media mogul Rupert Murdoch chimed in on Twitter, calling people who practice Scientology “evil” and “creepy.”
“Scientology has never been hit this hard, this fast,” explained an insider. “The church is being made out to be a laughingstock, and Miscavige had a meltdown that his top draw, Tom Cruise, was being ridiculed across the globe.”
In an effort to do some damage control, Miscavige directed the top secret conference call from the church’s headqurters in Los Angeles.
“Every one of these celebs, from John Travolta to Kirstie Alley, loves the church and will do anything to promote it,” the source said.
The plan is to embark on a $25 million public relations blitz in which the church will “pull back the curatins” and be more open about its beliefs. As part of that initiative, the church is considering starting a Scientology cable TV channel, which will feature its biggest stars talking about the faith.
“The Scientologists are determined to help Tom,” added the source. “But they also want to protect the church’s reputation from further embarrassment.
[From Enquirer, print edition, July 30, 2012]
NOW the CO$ is starting to think that transparency is a good thing? CB spoke of the cult’s lack of transparency being a precursor to its ways of making money, but in the age of Wikipedia and Wikileaks, I think most people are well-read enough to never give this cult a dollar since we can easiy look up all sorts of weird sh-t about their beliefs. And is the CO$ planning on giving a full, formal reveal of the OT Level III Xenu story or something? How disastrous. We already all know about Xenu and think it’s hilarious fiction, and that would mean even less money coming in for the CO$ if they gave that info away (even though it’s already all out there on the internet). Nope, the CO$ is screwed. They might still have their precious little tax-exempt status, but the internet has been their gradual undoing. It’s only a matter of time, people.
That’s the really lovely thing about the internet — for all his alleged brilliance, L. Ron Hubbard never imagined such a thing could exist. So basically the CO$ is still running off the same “attack” playbook as it did in the 1950s, and it’s failing miserably.
As for the celebrities of Scientology being able to somehow speak to the public and redeem their “religion” at this point in the game, well, good luck with getting these people (below) to sell that game.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet
When your A team goes down this badly, I guess there is not much to do except promote the B team.
or just bring in the mothership, it’s time!
In Italy we change the coach.
I believe in Colombia the shoot the coach :/
Not a bad idea but I don’t think Miscavige will go quietly. So there is very little chance of successfully using the “under new management” tag. But its a great idea “torn from the pages” of the sports section!
The B team is nothing more than losers and have beens.
I thought they would do more pimping out of their younger/more popular celebs like laura prepon danny masterson the guys from my name is earl. even leah remini must be more popular than Travolta/Ally/Lewis.
Yup, the hipster CoS: Danny and Chris Masterson, Bijou Philips, Laura Pepron, Beck and Marissa Ribisi, Giovani Ribsi, Juliette Lewis.
Most of these are 2nd generation Scis!
AAAAHHHH!
will this madness never end? OMG the 2nd generation…please,no… :)!
Sooo bummed to learn that Beck is a $ci. I never used to like his music, then he won me over (Debra!) and now that I know he is a cultie, I’m losing my admiration for him once again.
Poor Beck (heh). I know he was born into it. Then again, I was born into a family that made me go to sunday school and attempted to indoctrinate me into all sorts of stuff, but I broke free. OTOH, they were never all that nice to me, which made it a lot easier.
I’m really curious to see what will happen with the 2G kids when all the dust settles.
I truly feel bad for those born into it. Lots of kids are born into religious households, but at some point have the opportunity to think for themselves and decide what to believe. These Sciento kids are taught from day 1 that anyone who questions or dares to leave the “church” will be shunned forever and lose their whole family. No wonder they all stick with it.
@Lucy2 – to be fair, most religions will indoctrinate the kids to some extent, Scientology is just one that is more conspicuous about it. Athiests too, tend to present their non-beliefs along to their kids as “fact”.
Stick a pitchfork in Xenu, “he’s” done.
The Vulture has a great piece about the effect of the divorce on co$. We can all hope it works.
http://www.vulture.com/2012/07/will-scientologys-golden-boy-be-its-downfall.html
the vulture reporter just seems to regurgitate better reporting elsewhere and doesn’t seem to add anything. They also got the reference to “the Church’s entire Israeli chapter declaring its defection” wrong. It’s one mission in Israel (pretty much every member of that mission has gone squirrel) but there’s still an org and, I think, another smaller mission in the country. The defection is a big deal and major blow to CO$ but the Vulture’s article seems like a HS journalist’s rehash for the school paper
@olcranky – i loved the idea of ‘entire isreali chapter of co$ defecting.’
Many of the mainstream outlets are not really going into the kind of detail that is available at The Village Voice and other places. As much as people are aware that co$ is bad, they aren’t truly aware just how bad.
Today i spoke to someone who is following the divorce avidly, but they think the co$ is exaggerated whilst at the same time they can’t be bothered to dig deeper than the reporting in The Guardian or even The Daily Mail.
I am assuming the Vulture piece is aimed at them.
I’ve always read the odd bit of coverage of CO$ antics but I am absolutely addicted to the voice’s coverage – especially the comments which range from very insightful comments form former members to some of the funniest things I’ve ever read (some of the satire is as pantswettingly funny as it is enlightening)
olcranky,
I admit it – another Village Voice addict here…:)
Village Voice all the way baby!
“Hollywood hot shots John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, Bijou Phillips, Leah Remini, Jenna Elfman and Juliette Lewis”
OK, maybe Travolta is still a ‘hot shot’, but the rest of them?
And Travolta has turned into a joke…they are pretty screwed because I don’t see any really BIG stars getting near this cult.
I don’t see why they would want to continue to focus on celebs anyway.
Every time one of them does something remarkable, they get the fallout.
The Travolta scandal and especially the Katie Holmes divorce have exposed them far more than almost anything else.
Hot shots?! Give me a brak. They are bunch of nobodies, has beens and d-listers. CO$$$ is really in trouble. Where can I make donation for them?
AND, I wonder why there’s been no high profile celebrity ‘gets’ in recent years??
Bite your tongue, girl! If CO$ can spend $25M on a PR campaign, they can damn well do without your money! 😉
I have genius idea. They should hire Kim K. Can you imagine? Kim Kardashian.The new face of The Kult.
LOLOL! Re Kim K. Bite yr tongue!
The Kardashian Kult and the Miss Cabbage Cult could be a match made in hell! PLEASE do not wish that on an (well, more or less) innocent internet!
That’s what I was thinking. What have any of those people been in lately, besides Scientology articles?
Thank you for continuing your excellent coverage of COS. Between the posts, links & comments here, a lot of weirdness was exposed. Come for the gossip, stay for the investigative reporting! 🙂
OK, let me get this straight….
Miscavige has enlisted John Travolta (known gay w/ beard “wife” Kelly Preston, accused of diddling men across the globe), Juliette Lewis ( a complete whack-job who has been a laughing stock for years) and Kirstie Alley ( possibly esteemed by a few fans, but has zero credibility).
SERIOUSLY????
If this is their idea of “damage control”, you’re right. CO$ is going down in flames…stick a fork in ’em, they’re DONE.
OMG…BwaaaHaaaHaaaa!!!!!!
I think this calls for my first Sci-tini of the day. Any takers? 😀
Sure, I’ll try a Sci-tini. As a matter of fact make it a double. What the hell.
@Gen-chin-chin!
How do we convince Murdock to keep up the pressure?
OK ladies…one pitcher of Sci-tinis comin’ up!!
@ sapphire…wish I knew how to get Murdoch to keep up the pressure on CO$. Email blasts to his many corporations?
Although, I must give CB, Kaiser and Bedhead props for keeping the CO$ angle out there, and not letting it die after TomKat was settled. We can only pray that the media keeps up the heat on Miscarriage, uhh, Miscavige.
CHEERS, babies…and, PRAISE BE TO XENU!! Rofl!!
@Genevieve – He is on twitter.
the Murdochs are personal friends of Nicoles, she is very good friends with his children and very close to his wife. They think highly of Nicole and little of cos, hence the tweets and confirmation of opinion from the son ..and Keiths pretty popular too.
An email to Murdoch press asking for some current investigative journalism is a great idea.
Wow, when you’re compared negatively to Murdoch you know that things are bad.
Well, it is Friday, so I think I’ll join you for a special drink!
May I have mine in a tall glass with ice and a straw please?
LOL!!
And I echo your sentiments regarding CB, Kaiser and Bedhead!!!
Absolutely!!
We’re on our third pitcher, catch up! *hiccup*
I think I just felt the Thetan spirit move though me.
These Sci-tinis get the job done. 🙂
Cannot… stop.. drinking… $ci-tinis!
Yarrgh…
Uh, here… take my wallet!!! It’s waaaay too heavy…
ME ME ME ME ME!!! I need a drink. Make that several drinks. I have had a bear of a week dealing with my own fringe idiots at work, and let me just say, I am SO DARN GLAD that this Total Crackpot Week is coming to a close. So, raise a glass, ladies! (And gents, if you’re joining us.) Here’s to the weekend, free of crazies and fun for all of us!
Wow, I guess you can tell by the above that I’ve had quite the week…
Yes. Hand me a pitcher and a straw, please.
Me too please!! I could use a little fun and relaxation at the end of a long week. Forget the straw and just hand me the pitcher 😀
Cheers babes!
CHEERS! 😀
Cheers and here’s to ya’!
I would imagine Scientology doesn’t want to lose their money gravy train by losing their celebrities. Cruise, Travolta, Alley..how iggnorant can they be?
Quite a bit. Neither Travolta or Cruise are really that smart. And they both thought they had to hide their homosexuality to continue their careers. Then they got stuck. Or in Cruise’s case, brainwashed. And they like the ass kissing they get from other CO$ members. The slave labor as well.
While TC def. Enjoys his slave labour JT has reportly been shocked by the harsher aspects of the church…On seeing RPF slaves he reprtedly went white with shock ….ex scis say he would leave if not for the dirt in his ethics files etc… Village voice lovers what are we going to do without Tony ? A sad day for all ….I’m sure OCA will be taking credit for him leaving .
While TC def. Enjoys his slave labour JT has reportly been shocked by the harsher aspects of the church…On seeing RPF slaves he reprtedly went white with shock..ex scis say he would leave if not for the dirt in his ethics files etc… Village voice lovers what are we going to do without Tony ? A sad day for all ….I’m sure OCA will be taking credit for him leaving .
There was a BI the other day about someone defecting from a group and Kirstie Alley was the popular guess, defecting from CO$. Not sure how much PR gusto she’ll be giving them if this is true.
I can’t believe that Alley would defect unless she thought it would rehab her image and make her a superstar. She seems so completely delusional
Yeah, who knows. I don’t put much stock in blind items.
I read just a day or two ago that Jenny Craig may be trying to get her back as a spokesperson. That would probably require her to dump her own Co$ weight loss program. If she’s dumped Co$, that would fit.
What CO$ diet. The lady has een in CO$ & on the larger side for years. Maybe they sould stick her in a sauna for a week & make her eat with the e-meter. Lol
Yeah, I read that too. I’m actually kind of surprised they want her back, honestly.
I’m guessing that’s a story CO$ is putting out there to make it seem like $cilons are still all really bankable. I can’t imagine Jenny Craig would want to tap Alley right now
According to Jason Beghe, Kirstie Alley and Lisa Marie Presley are best friends. One of the songs on Lisa Marie Presley’s new album is about leaving the cult. (“Heartfelt people with no heart.”) So I think — I hope — this rumor could have some truth to it.
Yeah, good luck with that. I’m sure they and their lives will be excellent representatives for Co$. They’re so sane and stable and normal.
Is it too much to hope that the article printed “pull back the curatins” literally from a Co$ source?
Whatever are you talking about? Asking someone who is anti-Scientology if they rape babies is a completely sane and stable and normal thing to do.
Murdoch is the one that CO$ should really be afraid of. He’s got LOTS of money, knows how to use the media for his own ends(!) and has historically had a vicious streak a mile wide. He’ll fight CO$ to the death just for the fun of it.
Strange that he is our new hero!?
Funny, I was just thinking the exact same thing. Great minds think alike, right?
Doubtful that Murdoch would go to such lengths. He may make a mention (knowing it would be popular opinion to the masses) to deflect his own bad news, but he would never really dig in, b/c the Sci’s could dig into his life just as much. I’d be willing to bet that he has just as many secrets that he’d like to leave that way as Miscavige.
Also, Murdoch used a dead girl’s cell phone and tortured her parents just to get tabloid stories, so it’s disturbing he would be anyone’s “hero”.
Also, the board is trying to force Murdoch out of his own company. He may have massive amounts of money, but his power is fading fast.
Everyone needs a Rottie on their side from time to time… 🙂
Is read recently Tomtastic tried to recruit Murdochs son & the ultra rich Aussie Packer boys while he was married to Nicole. He dam near got James Packer but in the end seeing his bank account drain shook him out of it..
I’m guessing Murdochs motivation is personal.
While I love the comments by Murdoch … i cant help but think this was a very smart move on his part to divert attention away from his papers mobile tapping scandal.
RIP Scientology
Diana, you had me worried. You’ve been quiet, I thought I got you in trouble w/CO$ yesterday. Keep posting so we know you are OK. No matter what your beliefs are, I’m probably not alone in saying we care about your well being. Stay safe OK?
For what its worth, I accept your prayers in true sense of your words. I dont need to be scared of Cos because the country I reside in hasnt even heard of it.
But in case you are trying to be snarky, go ahead. I dont begrudge anyone having fun even at my expense. 🙂
@diana – you live in a country that CO$ has yet to discover? dare I ask where you live?
Holy cow, is the cult trying to cause you harm? I hope I inferred incorrectly–please be safe.
No snark at all, I usually use a emoji for snark!
India.
Ahhhhh…India 🙂 The Hindu fundamentalists will never let CO$ anywhere near the subcontinent! It’s already crowded with too many Gods. Xenu can never fit into that mix 🙂
IDK, it has been ALL over the India Times ever since Katie’s Great Escape!
Man, that would make a rad Bollywood movie (although you’d probably have to have Katie find love by the end).
TOI is big, but it’s also trash. I know it has city supplements and these supplements cover hollywood gossip, but very few actually bother about hollywood goss. Anil Kapoor, however, may have scored some points through this scandal 😉
Anyway, the point wasn’t about news coverage but about the presence of CO$ in India.
Hi Mira, am an Anglo-indian born to christian parents, but turned agnostic with loads of Hindu friends. Nice to meet you here.:)
Lol at the bollywood comment, plus Katie, Tom and Miscaviage will have to dance in a song or two. Imagine that…
Hey Diana! Nice to meet you as well 🙂 I would love to see TC and DM in b-town movie/song/dance complete with pelvic thrusts, and Katie doing bust thrusts 😀
lol, it’s way too late for any late save for COB. It will be interesting to see if John and kirstie are still members in 6 months, given recent defections/escapes and rumours of same.
I just keep thinking its’ “the sinking ship”..and as for the other “celeb” members: credibility much?
They need to be open enough to actually answer real questions with real words.
I cannot watch anything that has someone who is in that cult. It is just too distracting and annoying.
eb – I’m with you on that. Isn’t it amazing how our this reflects in our viewing choices?
I haven’t seen a TC movie since Minority Report (and only because hubs and oldest brought home the DVD and watched it).
I changed the channel whenever that show with LR and that Kevin guy in it came on.
I haven’t seen anything with Kirstie in it since Leviathan (she gets punched in the face at the end!).
The last movie I saw with Kelly in it was Cat in the Hat; last with Travolta was Pulp Fiction.
Haven’t seen anything with Juliette in it between The Other Sister and Catch and Release (NOT for her, for the Olyphant!); and haven’t watched anything with Jenna Elfman since Darma & Greg was on air.
What I learned from Leviathan:
Peter Weller looks less creepy as a cyborg than he does as a human.
Yep; exactly the same here. These people are box office poison.
So their biggest stars are the partial cast of that 70s show? Suuuure, that’ll work…
I, for one, can NOT wait for Trey Parker & Matt Stone to develop a Broadway musical comedy about CO$!
Dear sweet baby jesus/xenu/fassdong/insert deity of your choice, please make this happen, Please!!
@ Bad Irene
<< inserting fassdong
Please let this happen!
Yo! DM! COB! Or as I like to call you, SOB – how dense are you, exactly? I don’t care that you talk into tin cans and obsess about Xenu. I care that you torture people, break up families, pressure people into giving you their life savings, force young women to have abortions they don’t want, harass, stalk, like, cheat, steal and show depraved indifference to human life. How about lifting the curtain on THAT?
Edit to add: OMG, and how could I forget about child labor, denying children their constitutional right to an education, denying the sick medical care, telling the troubled that it is their fault that they are troubled so they better spend more money with the church if they want to get better.
Yes..DM , TC, we ask the same questions.
Yea, if you want SciFi ideals become a Trekkie/Trekker. I know, they’re not a religion, but hey! They’re not a cult either, and if you’re into believing or living backed by something other than the Bible (which you don’t have to anyways, or don’t don’t have to ,but definitely can), might as well be Star Trek ideals.
I know there seems to be no concrete evidence whether Will Smith and wife Jada Pinkett are members of CO$, but if they are, this is just a little bit hypocritical, don’t you think?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/jada-pinkett-smith-shines-light-on-human-trafficking-slavery/
i must add, on behalf of my family, and just so media monitors are aware, that after seeing several sc. actors respond rudely to people asking them about sc, and after seeing celebs call people bigots etc. we will no longer support any movies or any other endeavours these active members are involved in until the proper investigations have taken place,and they take some responsibility. We stopped funding Tom Cruise many years ago, the list is now bigger and I know we are not alone.
We do the same thing. Most of these celebs joined COS for the Hollywierd contacts that guaranteed them success. We stopped supporting that culture a long time ago.
If anyone needs a few Friday chuckles, check out these pics of the great DM. I especially love the one with him as mini-me
https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/david-miscavige-project-mass-shoop.11937/
LOL!! Mini-me is my favorite too!!
That pic and the Tom Cruise wife auditions video are the funniest things I’ve seen all week!
For those who haven’t seen it yet, start the weekend with a smile!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZzczBTa8rI&feature=g-all-u
Don’t let up, media! Keep at them until Miscavige crumbles.
COS is woefully unprepared for the internet age, where everyone has the ability to speak out and news spreads faster than they can stop it.
From doing the sauna program at “Narconon” my vision improved and I felt better than I had in years. Narconon isn’t for everybody but we do have a lot of success. While affiliated with the church of Scientology, we try to stand alone as a seperate entity – for obvious reasons.
We have no “fair game,” “xenu,” or barley water. We are non-denominational.
A little bit about Narconon’s handle or disconnect policy: we use the disconnect for drug dealers or friends that use. It says in our tech, the one time you always handle instead of disconnecting is when it’s a family member.
I can’t speak for other Narconons, because they are all in different corporations. But the one I work for – none of us are Scientologists. Narconon was founded by William Benitez who read one of l Ron’s books and came up with the idea for a rehab while he was in prison.
I am not a Scientology troll, just wanting to clear up a few things about the place that saved my life.
The techniques of Scientology can work, they make you feel better, so many people enter in the “Church”. For this reason CO is very dangerous, their ultimate goal is not to help the others, but to take their money.
The addiction treatment is complicated and must be entrusted to specialists, but it is possible that the Narconon can work.
2 rules of thumb regarding belonging to organizations that put themselves out there as supposedly helping people:
1) if it costs money to be a member and to remain a member or to use the “services”
and
2) if you can’t just leave without being prossecuted or harrassed
Then…think carefully if that’s something you want in your life. I’d say NO
Javagirl1 – I am familiar w/addictions and treatment options. It was YOU who helped you, Narconon just provided a venue. Addicts can go through program after program but if they are not willing to help themselves, they will not succeed.
My comment has nothing to do with religion btw. No program would have worked if you weren’t prepared to help yourself.
So how do you feel about the fact that a third person just died in a Narconon facility within a year?
How do you feel about the fact that there is absolutely no scientific or medical basis to Narconon’s ‘treatment’? If you managed to break an addiction in their program, then I would like to congratulate you: YOU DID THAT ALL YOURSELF. You must be a strong person to manage that. You would also have been able to do it without Narconon.
And if it’s non-denominational, why is Miscavige talking about Narconon as if it’s just another Scientology success?
http://vimeo.com/40679703
And as a self-proclaimed non-scientologist, how do you feel about sponsoring the Co$? Think about how much money patients pay for their ‘treatment’. Think about how much money is actually spent on running the facility. (Do you get paid? I know staff often doesn’t). How much is left? Quite a bit. Do you know where it goes? Straight to David Mascavige’s expensive-whiskey-and-gourmet-food fund. Your hard work is sponsoring abuses within Co$. How do you feel about that?
Javagirl1,
Well done on beating your addiction, but I’m afraid you are mistaken if you believe that Narcanon is independent of CO$.
Read these two articles from Village Voice and THEN tell us what you think.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/07/scientology_narconon_oklahoma_stacy_dawn_murphy.php#more
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/04/david_edgar_love_scientology_by_the_balls.php
I said we try to be seperate from the COS. None of us like the connection to Scientology. It can cause problems as you can imagine. But I do believe in what I do and I like helping people and seeing them improve. To another commenter who asked about pay. Yes we do get paid including overtime. Our center is good at following laws to the letter. Once again I can’t speak for other centers.
Come join us in the real world. There are lots and lots of groups that don’t insist you lie for them, including groups that actually help addicts rather than endangering them. My aunt works for one, treating the addicts in the very worst trouble: addicts who have other mental disorders besides addiction and who live in poverty. They succeed with no lies.
I watched an expose on CBC’s Passionate Eye last night on Co$. It was an Australian production done 3 or 4 years ago but featured alot of good old Tommy Davis before he got sent to the labour camp. Dear God he is such an evil, transparent liar, how Miscavige EVER chose him to be the PR guy I’ll never know.
Anyhoodle, some of the stories were heart-wrenching of families torn apart, the labour camps, the squirrel busters, the spies following blown members for months and years (Marc Headley and his wife are STILL followed after all this time). I shake my head.
I really hope Rupert Murdoch uses his power and influence to launch a massive take-down of Co$. In the meantime, good luck to Miscavige’s “dream-team” of has-been celebrities – so much damage has already been done to the brand that no TV channel or slick PR campaign can ever redeem it.
I saw that (in autumn), so the details are fuzzy, but what was the story with the lady who sent her second daughter away with them after they’d so terrorized the first daughter? It seemed to be of her own volotion, not under some kind of threat or coersion. She knew exactly what happened to people trapped in there and after seeing how traumatized the older girl was and how deeply it hurt her heart to learn of the abuse after cutting spiritual ties with cult, and yet still sent the second girl there. I can’t be remembering that correctly because it makes no sense.
Hi Jo “Mama” – the second daughter begged to be allowed to go into Sea Org so her parents, who were still active Scientologists at the time, let her, even though they had misgivings. Clearly it was the wrong decision, and thankfully they managed to get her out before she was sent to the Clearwater facility. The other daughter, unfortunately, is still in and won’t have anything to do with them, although I imagine it’s her superiors who are forcing the disconnection.
he is such an evil, transparent liar, how Miscavige EVER chose him to be the PR guy I’ll never know.
Miscavige imprisoned and tortured all the Co$’s competent, non-transparent pr-people. Even Tommy Davis was better than Karin Pouw, the Co$’s current spokesperson.
TC’s Sharpie even had to bigger than Katie’s silver one (in the header pic)! How insecure can one egomaniacal SMS-suffering man be?
Good catch BellaLuna. I was looking at that and I thought those were emeters they were holding on to since the article is about Co$ supposed heavyweights. But you are so right about that midget egomaniac. Wow, how can anyone put up with that freak.
Anyone see Toot, Island Girl or the other CO$ peeps today? They seem to be posting less so I’m a bit worried about them.
Just post any nonsense, even a smiley will do so we know you are OK.
Maybe they’ve been sent off to RPF for not doing their jobs adequately. Oh, and in the CBC program last night (see earlier post) Tommy Davis referred to RPF as a “retreat” for Co$ members who wanted a bit of “quiet contemplation”. Right Tommy, it’s easy to quietly contemplate while you’re cleaning out dumpsters with a toothbrush….
I am genuinely worried about some of the people that were posting and stopped. Maybe not all were CO$ but I’m sure some were and they disappeared since yesterday. They are the morning posters so they would have stopped by already.
I don’t agree with their beliefs, but I do worry.
Hearing the stories, I’m worried about what might be happening to them if they’re seen to be failing.
This is why this board is so awesome. This exactly.
Of course I too hope the people we’ve been interacting with here get out and find their way to a better life. (It’s possible!)
I just think it is really amazing to see folks show such genuine caring for people they’ve only ever encountered by arguing with them on the internet.
Go, CB! I’m defo a fan.
the only thing that scares me about the Scientology cult is that if i were to join it, i will be hella scared of turning into Tom Cruise’s botched abs.
And then you have to wear work boots, moon boots, boots, boots, boots year round 😛
I have visions of Miscaviage running around having tantrums screeming…”Johhny why can’t you have kept your hands to yourself…Tommy why couldn’t you have pulled your pecker out of your pants for once…Kristie WTF couldn’t you just have one less burger…Juliette why couldn’t you just keep your hair the same color for more then a month…it would be so much easier to sell that we are the normal one’s in this day of instaneous media coverage”.
LOL.
I’m waiting to see the cult crumble on itself. I will hold a party when it does.
To Celebitchy:
The last sentence in the article, followed by the last 3 pictures, was hilarious!
So, Miss Cabbage spends $25 million on a publicity campaign and meanwhile his devoted followers are starving, mistreated and worked to the bone.
Yeah, sounds about right.
They are going down. Canada is already hip to their vices.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/04/david_edgar_love_scientology_by_the_balls.php
I can’t stand COS but you people thinking Rupert Murdoch is some paragon are truly laughable! This man is trying to skew our political system with a 24 hour “news” channel filled with lies and distortions. what is the effing difference between him and Miscavige?
Do you mean MSNBC or CNBC? Since both of those “news” channels are filled with lies and distortions.
I think all 3 of those news stations (fox, cnn & msnbc) are full of lies and manipulations. I also think they are run by the same people who just give the illusion they are coming from different sides. so I agree with Chattycat AND MooCow.
If scientology came out with its own tv channel, it would only show all kinds of crazy. It would be the worse thing CO$ could do to itself.
Mooshi…I watch Fox & Friends in the morning so there is news mixed in there…then CNN is on the TV in my office all day, and I watch a NBC affiliate for my local news. I am glad I provide myself with a mixture of all three types of news reporting because you hear a story on one station and not another and then I go to the internet to investigate “the story” more to close the loop.
She means theCBC, Canadian Boadcasting Company..last night on their program, The Passiona Eye, ran that interview with the Australians, British interviewer ,I was aware that itmust be a few years old as Tommy Davis was interviewed,,creepy guy!! But great insight into how seemingly ‘normal ‘ people who get sucked into CO$ and then find out the reality.Horrifying and sad.
Really? You think mainstream media have work camps, charge people hundreds of thousands of dollars for information, ask people to sign billion year contracts, force abortions and enforce the shunning of family members with differing points of view?
That’s a ridiculous exaggeration. Mainstream newsmedia does tend to enforce beliefs and cultural views of the average college educated person. That may be a bias, but it’s certainly not a brainwashing cult. Get a grip.
I hate Fox News. It’s disinformation. But you’re comparing two different things.
The stuff about Murdoch being a “hero” was a joke. People talking about how icky he is, but how they now have a little respect for him for criticizing Scientology. I personally have no respect for Murdoch, but I love seeing him take on Scientology because I love when assholes rip each other to shreds. It makes life so much easier for the rest of us.
Amen, Emily. Amen.
@emily and @Obellaluna. I’ll see your amen and raise you a hallelujah!
I gave up on Fox News last year and MSNBC this year. ABC is on my bad list now trying to link the Tea Party with the Batman Theater murderer with no proof other than there is another Jim Holmes in the Tea Party. Kind of like news went after Sarah Palin/Tea Party for the Arizona shootings when it ended up being just a crazy psycho with a gun. The News has turned into Pundit central and I’m sick of it. I turn to the internet and/or twitter for the real news these days.
She really was crazy about him in the begining wasn’t she. Poor darling never stood a chance.
Oh yes Moocow, Fox news is so much more dangerous than C0S *rolls eyes*
Tom Cruise has Seamen on his back!!!
Since the divorce, I’ve been following Tony Ortega’s website almost every day and it seems like the CoS is really starting to fall apart. I’m surprised that the IRS wasn’t the one to take them down. Miscavige will probably end up in jail or killing himself before he goes to prison when all is said and done. I wouldn’t imagine he would handle prison very well.
Do not know if you already know this.
Searching around I found about how Tommy Davis (cult official in LA) is actually married to Jessica Feshbach formerly rodriguez, who worked with Cruise as Katie’s handler when she started with Cruise, and she started saying “amazing!” all the time, and got pregnant. There are rumours as how the producers of Batman were annoyed with her. She was feeding KH responses in interviews.
her family has given millions to the cult, and She has climbed the $cientology ladder and now She is an international spokesperson to them.
Tight circle, uh? I bet katie felt asphyxiated. No wonder she rushed to the East coast, between them and the Cruise family…
And now Tommy Davis hasn’t been seen in ages – I wonder how Ms. Feshbach feels about having her husband sent to the prison camp…..wouldn’t it be great to see the two of them blow Co$!
Jessica Feshbach was diagnosed with leukaemia last year and when Tommy Davis first went missing, it was said he took time off to be with her.
She was supposedly in a very bad way and in a hospice just before Christmas.
‘A family member said they’re both alive, still devout Scientologists, Jessica has gotten better thanks to the support of family members. Tommy is with Jess; not in the RPF that some have insinuated.’
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?25560-Jessica-Feshbach-Rodriguez/page9
Make of it what you will.
All the Scientology Church is a “family affair”.
David Miscavige’s parents were scientologist and his twin sister is one important member too.
Tommy Davis parents were too and his mother is Anne Archer, the first popular actress scientologist. All their relatives are in the “church”, and all of them are married with members.
Mimi Rogers was also the one who got Kirstie Alley into the cult. And now she is out of it!
Are you kidding me? Each and every one of those celebs mentioned are known whack jobs! If that’s DM’s offensive he’s shit outta luck. Can you see those whacks altogether in one room? Hilarious. They must look across the table and wonder how the hell they ended up associated with each other.
Juliette Lewis is about the only one I even care to watch on anything. I’m guessing she only joined for the contacts and rides out the bullshit because she’s hoping for a trip down Xenu’s volcano. She seems like the type who would dig that yit.
This is a Panorama documentary on Scientology. It’s a follow up to one they did a few years ago.
It has interviews with all the celebrities defending it: Kirstie Alley, Juliette Lewis etc. They all seem crazily into it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l42UrHDx4lE
It’s spelled Narconon. Narcanon was a legitimate organisation that they usurped the reputation of and eventually drove out of business.
This only makes me more happy Katie got out. She used to be a decent actress and hopefully she can recover not only professionally but personally. I hope it won’t cost her Suri but it might. Wow what a mess…
their list of celebrity ‘hot shot’ scientologists are nothing but a bunch of wackos.
if those are the best people they can get for a positive public face to scientology, they really are in trouble.
kirsty alley, tom cruise, and juliette lewis! it is actually comical.
It is … the whole thing is just hysterically funny to me. Tom is a normal parent, Suri’s room had a window, I’m supposed to wanna join a cult because John Travolta and Kirstie Alley are in it… the hits just keep coming! I just wish I had more time to follow all the crazy little side-trips into wacky lunacy, but Real Life keeps intruding, dammit!
LMAO….yeah, & those celebs are supposed to draw anyone in? Yes, they are all obviously wacko.
It’s a real shame anyone would find co$ as something that would improve their life. Yeah, I know they can really “pour on the love” when they want to, but seriously, anyone w/a computer can do ONE Google search and have some SERIOUS misgivings.
I’ve had many “down times” in my life & never once thought co$ could be the “answer,” but….maybe because I didn’t have a big enough bank account to pay for thousands of audits to work my way up the “OT ladder”….LOL!
I just cannot get over how hideous John Travolta has become.
Like, he was still hot in Pulp Fiction wasn’t he?
Now he looks like an ageing has been with that spray on hair.
Co$ is going down. These losers hardly make you wanna join up do they?
In the closet predator. Sterile control freak who wears high heels. Overweight grubby ex soap star.
Sheesh, where do I sign up? ; )
The name ” Miscavige” alone is rather creepy.
The name ” Miscavige” alone creeps me out
OMG! The Blockbuster Hit of Summer 2012!
——–CO$: The Movie————
This summer, grab the family and popcorn and come see how Scientology can work for YOU! Starring John Travolta, Kirstie Alley and Juliette Lewis. These comics of personal failure take you behind the curtain of CO$.You gotta watch it (and pay $250,000K) to see it!
Don’t miss a hilarious cameo from Tom Cruise!
Grab your 3D glasses America! CO$ is gonna take you for a free ride!
This film is rated F.U.S: (F**cked up sh-t). See paper for showing times and movie theaters.
Hey @erika! I’m definitely going to watch that movie coming out w/Joaquin Phoenix in it….a thinly-veiled movie about LRH. I am so anti-co$, but am definitely curious about that one.
Edit: Joaquin Phoenix isn’t a scientolobot…IS he? I’ll Google & see.
Xenu help David Miscarriage! He’s about to become SERIOUS food for the late night comedians.