Joaquin Phoenix, 39, looks happy & loved up with Allie Teilz, 19: creepy or cute?

Joaquin Phoenix

Here are some pictures of Joaquin Phoenix with his DJ girlfriend, Allie Teilz, at LAX yesterday. These two lovebirds went public with their romance about a month ago. He is 39, and she is 19. It’s more than a little bit sketchy. Two decades apart is a big age difference, and Allie is barely an adult, so I couldn’t imagine what they have to talk about (especially since Joaquin has always seemed like such an old soul himself). I once tried to date a 42-year-old guy when I was 24, and that lasted three months before I realized there was no future in the relationship. It depressed me to think that when I was 34, he’d be 52. That was too much for me.

Maybe I’m just sterotyping from my experience. There are couples that make substantial age differences work. Aaron and Sam Taylor Johnson are doing just fine it seems. As far as Joaquin’s new romance goes, Allie is an adult. The relationship is perfectly legal. I do worry about the guy though. He’s usually so nervous and full of self-doubt. Now he’s smiling and laughing, but look at how young this girl looks in the below photos!

Oh well. Joaquin’s professional life is looking up again with rave reviews for Her. The movie was just named the top pick (along with Gravity) of the LA film critics association. It looks like a quirky yet cute movie where Joaquin is basically dating Siri, who is voiced by Scarlett Johansson. You can see the trailer here.

Joaquin Phoenix

Joaquin Phoenix

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  1. ANDREA1 says:

    Sorry to sound rude she looks like a boy in that last picture.
    This relationship is So creepy it gives Me goose bumps.

  2. It'sJustBlanche says:

    On any planet, even his, it’s creepy.

  3. Secret Squirrel says:

    Well I was going to comment on his disgusting hair, but then I saw hers. Maybe they are better suited than I originally thought. Nothing cute about this couple at all.

  4. endoplasmic_ridiculum says:

    Ugh. These guys. I simply give up.

  5. Maria T. says:

    There’s something so sad about him that it’s just nice to see him smiling.

  6. D says:

    I doesn’t really help that she looks about 15 years old. It might be legal, but it’s still creepy.

  7. Dani2 says:

    You know, it just smells of mid-life crisis to me (wearing sneakers, dressing like a teenage boy), it just seems from the outside like it’s more about him recapturing his lost youth than anything else. And before you say it’s their life, yup, of course it is, I don’t have any say-so in his life but I am allowed to have an opinion on a public figure.

    *Insert obligatory “I met my forty-nine year old boyfriend when I was eighteen and we’re still going strong” rebuttal.

    • Sullivan says:

      Yes, this relationship does have a mid-life crisis vibe to it. Other than that, I don’t care much about this coupling. Now, if she were my 19 year old daughter and she brought her boyfriend, Phoenix, over for dinner? I’d be alarmed.

    • Happyhat says:

      I think most male relationships in Hollywood, irregardless of their age, are ‘mid-life crisis’ relationships. If it’s not someone crazy younger, it’s an underwear/bikini model. Or a C-list actress. Preferably a young c-list actress who also models.

      I guess if you live in New York, then it’s models and DJ’s.

    • TG says:

      @Dani2 – love how you took the wind right out of someone’s sails. I agree it is gross and I think it is gross for a woman to be with someone so young. That Sam Taylor thing is super creepy but that might just be that she looks awful while he is so hot. I know there are age gap relationships that work but I think they are few and far between. I tend to have zero repsect for a man who wants to f*ck a child it makes me think that they aren’t a real man and can’t handle a real woman. As I get older I think having life experiences is sexy and I would take a man close to my age over a hot young thing any day of the week. Anyone younger than 30 is a child in my eyes and I am 37.

  8. Nikollet says:

    I have always loved Joaquin, but don’t like this 20yr age gap. It’s a bit hypocritical of me, as I believe relationships should be about love, and how you feel about the person, and that age/sex is not important. But she really looks like a kid.

    And what’s with matchy-matchy? Something is just not quite right here.

  9. Anna says:

    Celine Dion and Rene have also worked out!
    But that relationship always gave me a creepy vibe since Rene met Celine when she was 12 and he was 38.

  10. Tessa says:

    She looks like the kid that used to play Michael on General Hospital. You know, a kid, and a boy. Basically she looks like a little boy.

  11. Tapioca says:

    Like Mary-Kate it’s not so much the age difference as how young she appears – in the yellow T-shirt she looks mid-pubescent, yikes!

  12. Yaz says:

    I like Joaquin as an actor but this is just pathetic. She is not even pretty. When he was young he dated pretty age appropriate women like Liv Tyler.

  13. blue marie says:

    I have a rule of if they can’t buy their own alcohol then they are too young for me. It’s gross, in my opinion. However Joaquin looks happy if not a bit dirty, seriously dude, wash your hair.

  14. lucy2 says:

    Generally that big of an age difference seems difficult to me, but I guess for some people it works. It’s just always a little sketchy when one party is barely an adult, because you’re at such a different place in your life at 19 then even at 25 or 30.
    She does look REALLY young.

  15. Observer says:

    I think she reminds him of his youth….you know, back in the 80s.

  16. Bellatrix says:

    I have to say, I miss Gladiator-Joaquin, he was so handsome. Now he is creepy, unkept. His best relationship was with Liv Taylor. They were a great couple.

    And wasn’t he dating Red Hot Chilli Pepper frontman’s ex a while ago?

  17. Lark says:

    I know she’s technically an adult, but whenever there is a huge age difference like this and one partner is under the age of 25 I give a side-eye. 25 and 45, I don’t think much about it….20 and 40, I’m like wtf. You are still a “young” adult at 19 or 20 for a reason….there have been studies that the brain doesn’t fully mature until one is out of their early 20s…I know there are the exceptions, the 19 year olds who raise a kid and work full time but most 19 year olds are still kids in a sense.

  18. Londerland says:

    You know how it is when you’re a fan of someone, you don’t want them to be like all the other predictable douchebag celebs, and it’s just disappointing to discover they’re human after all. So, yeah, I was disappointed when Tori Amos wrecked her face with plastic surgery, disappointed when Patrick Stewart married someone decades younger, just because I felt it would be so much more impressive if they bucked the trend. I want the people I admire not to fall prey to the same predictable Hollywood crap. So I don’t see anything wrong as such with Joaquin Phoenix dating this girl, but I’d rather he’d ended up with someone his own age.

    Also I’m just plain jealous.

    • Happyhat says:

      Oooh – I’m so out of the loop Tori Amos-wise. I don’t think I’ve bought one of her albums since…Scarlet’s Walk? And a quick check on the internet…damn…Tori!!!

      I feel ya though – usually I try and just focus on their creative endeavors. Whenever I’ve ploughed too deeply into someone’s real life, I’ve always been weirded out and disappointed!

  19. Han says:

    Can we just pretend this isn’t happening?

  20. Dirtnap says:

    Maybe Joaquin didn’t know he wanted
    an unwashed, scruffed-up, tomboyed Carey Mulligan until he saw one across a crowded room. Maybe she didn’t know she wanted a middle-aged actor grasping at his last straws at youth until she saw his bank account. Love can just pop up and surprise you like that.

    Forgive me. I’ll feel more generous toward the happy couple and more willing to celebrate true love in its many different disguises after a sip of coffee.

    • Christin says:

      Your pre-coffee observation is probably spot on. He’s probably incredibly giddy as he spends money to keep his young love happy. He’s probably not washing his hair so he can spend every moment possible with her.

      Actually, they may beat the odds and be together for many, many months (say, 12 instead of 3).

    • jinni says:

      Now I don’t think Carey’s a great beauty, but she’s not anywhere near as unfortunate as this girl. This chick looks more like a slightly clean Pete Doherty (Kate Moss’s ex).

    • Penny says:

      Lol, Dirtnap! You brilliantly articulated your point and the delivery made it even better! I like how you made astute speculations knowing it’s just conjecture with some humor but keeping an open mind.

      To elaborate on your point which I’ll paraphrase…they didn’t know there’d be an attraction until that moment…I think that’s how it works. Being “love stuck” or awestruck…

      I think most of us walk around oblivious to some of our proclivities until we are confronted by a situation combining the right mitigating elements where we then make an exception. Think grad school admission process – perhaps you’re stronger in one area – grades – while weaker in another -your entrance exam score…but b/c of your stellar extracurricular activity portfolio and decent admission essay…you get accepted!

      I posit you may be onto something with your conjecture that both connected initially for superficial reasons. But now they’ve broken the boundary and are in a relationship it remains to be seen if their relationship will make the grades and they indeed will graduate into a mature long term meaningful commitment. Because the odds are against them, they’ll have to be more dedicated and work harder than others to make it work!

  21. Bianca says:

    I can’t decide whether she looks 12 or 45.

  22. Cristina says:

    So many people hating! To those who say she looks like a boy: so what?! Why is that a bad thing? Do all girls/women need to look feminine? Is she not woman enough if she doesn’t have full breasts and is wearing that hideous yellow t shirt? To those who say they look like they stink and that they should wash their hair: you are so immature! Their hair looks just fine! And to those who say she’s not pretty enough for him: are you serious? He’s royalty and must only have pretty princesses?! She looks cute and funky and they are an interesting couple. Grow up!

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      ………first time on a gossip website?

    • Dani2 says:

      It’s very lazy to assume that all criticism is hate. Majority of the commenters here are side-eying the fact that this girl is only 19 years old and Joaquin is nearly 40. As for her appearance, it causes concern because she honestly doesn’t even look 19, she looks even younger. It’s not just hate, if you’d take the time to read what people are saying, you might see that the criticism here is valid – it’s not just bashing.

      • Cristina says:

        I did read all the comments before posting and I was strictly referring to the people hating on their looks which I find immature. Yes, I know that the majority of the commenters have an issue with their age gap and I chose not to put in my two cents on that. While I do find the people’s concern about their age gap is valid, I was irked by people who were side-eying her not for being 19 or even looking younger, but for saying she has the body of a boy, or that she’s not “pretty enough” for him, which again, is very immature… even for a gossip site.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        Fair enough, but please note I said nothing about her appearance.

    • mj says:

      Cristina, I love you. The comments attacking her appearance are grossly immature. If she were 19 and looked like (insert conventionally attractive young female actress here) no one would even comment on her appearance. Or, if they did, they’d say, “gorgeous girl… why’s she with him??”. Ughhh

    • Becky1 says:

      Yeah, the age difference is (in my opinion) disturbing but there’s absolutely no reason to slam on the girl’s appearance. It seems unnecessary and cruel.

    • Katrina says:

      Thank you very much for saying this. I can’t stand this whole “12 year old boy”/”real women have curves” nonsense, as if being a woman was all about big breasts and arse.
      And if it is, then it would be interesting to evaluate what is gender all about these days.

  23. Jh says:

    What’s creepy is their identical outfits.

  24. Virgilia Coriolanus says:

    I don’t know–I always got the impression that these guys dated girls that young because they didn’t want a real relationship–didn’t want to have to be serious. Which is fine–it doesn’t affect me. The only thing I’m ‘worried’ about is when you hit those golden years where you’re old and lonely–and you don’t have that special someone with you–because you were wasting your years w/young girls.

    But it doesn’t really bother me. The impression I get is that Joaquin hasn’t been in a serious relationship since Liv–I hope they’re at least friends now. But I think he just wants his solitude most of the time, hence the young DJ girlfriend.

    I’m her age, and let me say this–if I was dating a 39 year old, it’s because I want to date a 39 year old.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      Believe it or not, there are women in their 30s who don’t want a serious relationship as well.
      We are a rare breed but we are out there!!!

      Anyway, if your theory is true, it’s pretty arrogant on the part of the guy to assume that every woman is going to fall in love with him, n’est-ce pas?
      Some of us are just looking for short-term fun (call me, Joaquin!) ;)

      • Virgilia Coriolanus says:

        Well I mean that a younger person dating is more likely to not want to settle down i.e. be in a serious partnership/get married/have kids, than someone who’s 30, per se. There’s less chance of it developing into something serious–which is why Leo continually dates all those models.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        Oh I don’t know…I think Leo dates models because:
        #1) He CAN-he’s rich and famous
        #2) He’s simply superficial-he likes pretty women. *shrugs*

        ….and the models are happy to have a high-profile boyfriend as it’s good for their career-I think it’s symbiotic in that way. I’m not sure it’s about wanting to be with someone who doesn’t want a serious commitment–that might be a factor but I’m not convinced it’s the driving force behind Leo’s modelizing.

      • Virgilia Coriolanus says:

        Well, I agree with you on that–but I do think the thing is is that he doesn’t want commitment beyond a “I have to go film for 3 months, let’s go on vacation afterwards” type deal. Because if he wanted a more serious relationship i.e. marriage/kids, then he could’ve found himself a pretty model (HA! Miranda Kerr did her best!), who would make as many babies as he wanted.

        I think he goes for the models because they’re pretty (in his eyes, at least–all his girlfriends have been either cute or funny looking), young, they both get something (he looks cool or whatever; she gets international attention–I saw a pap video on youtube where the paps followed Leo and Bar all the way to her parents house in Israel.). Everyone wins. But I suppose it’s also easier and a better bet to assume that a young person doesn’t want commitment in the way that some your age might want–like a stable partnership i.e. not wanting to just date around.

        I don’t shade him for it, because he’s never been someone who’s always talking about how he wants to make babies all the time, unlike Cumby. I think he’s backing off the whole idea–I saw an interview for when he did The Great Gatsby–the interviewer asked him if he was thinking about getting married/making babies, and Leo said he didn’t know what the future held i.e. the only babies Leo’s going to get is an ‘oopsie’ baby.

        But I think we’re a lot alike, Kitten, which is rather ironic. I’m someone who loves the idea of just meeting that one person, who you know that you’re going to spend the rest of your life with–the one person that you want to weather all those storms with. But on the other hand, I just LOVE being on my own too much to even contemplate dating someone. I’m just the type of person that if I get involved with someone, it’s going to be very serious, I think. But I think when I’m in my thirties, the only difference that’s going to be between me and you is that I’m going to have a bunch of kids (an SO is not required in my case) :)

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        @Virg-I don’t fault Leo for wanting to date models-it’s his life, his choice-as long as he’s honest and not leading these girls on, it’s his business. But I definitely see anyone who has a dating pattern or a “type” as really limiting themselves. Additionally, Leo is very very superficial (can’t get around that one) and that’s not a quality I find appealing.
        But as I said, the dude presumably has model muff being thrown at him all the time, so I suppose it makes sense that he’d be dipping his hand into the candy jar. *shrugs*

        If you have a lot of kids, Virg-you gain a lot of wonderful things-but you do lose some of your freedom–like everything else in life, it’s a double-edged sword.
        I’ve never been a commitment person though-never been a nester or a relationship-y type, always been a free spirit who feels like I get different things from different people. So in a sense, I truly DO understand guys like Leo-I just think it would be nice for him to branch out a bit beyond models. Eh. To each his own I suppose ;)

      • Jane says:

        TOK- I’m the same way.

        OT: I’m kind of surprised that Lorde and her 25 year old boyfriend weren’t mentioned in the comments. There’s a marked age difference that some might find creepy, but I’ve only seen the Paul Walker reference. I know the Paul thing was strange, although did he and Jasmine get together in Hawaii? I thought he lived there for some time. The age of consent there is 16. We might find it odd, but it would have been legal. Same with Lorde and her older boyfriend. The age of consent in New Zealand is 16.

        Joaquin’s girlfriend is 19. She’s an adult. I wouldn’t go for someone that young, but I can’t raise my hackles over two consenting adults getting into a relationship.

    • Dani2 says:

      I don’t think anyone here is saying that he’s forcing her. And take it from me, I’m 23 but I’ve matured in leaps and bounds from 19, the real issue for me is that there doesn’t seem to be equal footing. He’s 39, he’s been with a number of women, he’s really lived his life and she’s only legally been an adult for like a year.

      • Virgilia Coriolanus says:

        What I meant is that I think that she knows that. But a lot of the comments here are giving me a vibe of “she’s just a young kid, she doesn’t know any better–he’s the pervert”, when I’m her age, and I know that it’s weird to date someone that much older, when you’re that young. I know it, she knows it.

  25. bettyrose says:

    I can’t help but think relationships like this are more about having an obedient pet than an emotional/intellectual equal.

  26. Mauibound says:

    Imo if you’re old enough to be their father or mother , they are too young for you. I know some of these relationships work out but to me it’s just creepy

  27. Sara says:

    Well at least she has the fried dyed hair of a 40 year old!

  28. Pink says:

    Wtf happened to him?

    He looks ugly and messy, ugh.

  29. Anastasia says:

    My daughter is 19 years old. I’m 43, so I’m just four years older than him. Yes, she’s an adult, but that’s a massive age gap. I tried to imagine my daughter dating some 39 year old guy, and it was just hard to believe they’d have much in common–someone nearly her parents’ age.

    I wonder how old HER parents are?

  30. My Monkey says:

    I think on one hand it’s actually quite a nice change from the norm – she’s not some skinny model, or some bimbo. We’re always a bit disappointed when men go for that, and here he is dating someone quite ordinary looking.

    But yes, the age difference is a bit large. If I was 19 myself now I would say that it’s totally okay, what’s wrong with you?! when it comes to love none of that matters and please mind your own business.
    But I’m a wee bit older now, and I look at what I was like at that age and how much I’ve changed and grown since. And I was just an immature kid back then! (I’m sorry my young self, I know I promised I would never forget you when I grew older but there. apparently I’m a traitor).

  31. Karen says:

    She is beautiful and not the typical type either… And Jesus Christ people, these are airport photos, it’s refreshing to see them casual. Everyone is so worked up over nothing. Joaquin is happier than ever and with an interesting gal, let’s stop the hate.

  32. Loo says:

    Her soundcloud has a pretty awesome mix on it, search Allie Teilz DJ , she is legitimately talented and young and something very endearing about her.

  33. xxx says:

    He looks like Jim Morrison did during his final days

  34. chaine says:

    i remember being 19 and so perky i didn’t need to wear a bra! *sigh* i say, enjoy it while you can, Tally, or whatev her name is. re: age difference, imo no one 19 is seriously interested in a guy twice her age unless (1) she has some kind of emotional issues herself that cause her to go for a daddy substitute or (2) the guy has connections in showbiz that she thinks will be useful for her showbiz career. Tending to think it’s the second one, in which case, more power to her–dig that gold as fast as you can, Tally.

  35. tabby says:

    Don’t understand why when an older man is dating a younger female, women find it weird or disgusting. But if the roles were reverse and the lady was older and the man was much younger than her, women would be applauding her for dating a younger man.I don’t see a problem with this, if they are both grown adults they can date each other.

  36. Lori says:

    I’m pleased to say I’m as grossed out by this as I was the relationship between Tom Daley and his 20 year older boyfriend.

  37. I saw them together last night backstage (I work at nbc) at the Fallon taping and she didn’t seem 19, he looked happy , but she did look a little androgynous. either way, they are both happy, that’s all that matters?

  38. Littlebowbee says:

    I thought it was Val Kilmer in that first pic of him.

  39. Dawn says:

    I find it creepy that a girl of 19 would be interested in a crazy guy 20 years her senior. I hated when older guys would hit on me when I was young.

  40. Cupcake says:

    She looks like a teenager. He looks like a man fast approaching middle age. Gross.

  41. Lil says:

    EEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww

  42. Palermo says:

    That age difference is nothing when you are older, but at her age it’s too big. He looks like someone who was just released from jail, scuzzy as hell

  43. mj says:

    I mean I get that most of us will never have an opportunity to be around them, much less know them, but claiming this is disgusting based on a numbers and a few images is weird to me. Who knows how they interact? I would be much more disappointed if he pulled a Bradley Cooper. Much, much more.

  44. megsie says:

    Up until recently Allie we dating the young guitarist from M83, only a year or two older than her. Around the time he broke it off there was a rumor she had made an unsuccesful play for the 30 something leader of the band. At the time, I disregarded the story. Now I wonder. Perhaps she prefers older men. But more importantly, does Joaquin’s sister approve? ;)

    • magpie says:

      Hmmm… now this is interesting. She hit on Anthony Gonzalez?

      This is what they have in common. Music, party times, being young. “Kitty” doesn’t want to grow up and he won’t have to. He is Leo 2 with a different “type”.

      • megsie says:

        So I heard from a friend of my stepdaughter’s with a vague connection to the band. Supposedly Anthony turned her down, and that, combined with her obsessive/jealous ways, gave the bf reason to drop her. Nothing I could confirm, though, to add to the mix, I believe Anthony separated from his live in gf around the time so ….

        I love Joaquin’s acting, but he is an odd duck in so many ways. Two nuts. Maybe they’ll live happily ever after?

  45. Aly says:

    Omg I thought that was a young boy in those pictures! She’s a child! Oh Joaquin, what are you doing? It’s hard for me to even look at the pictures because the ick factor is so high.

  46. mercy says:

    Creepy. Always. I know age is just a number in some cases and women sometimes mature faster than men, but 19 is way too young.

  47. ctkat1 says:

    If the younger of the pair is at least 25, then I don’t have an issue. 25 is young, but by that age you’ve had enough life experience.
    If the younger of the pair is 18-24 (because younger than 18 is illegal and wrong), then the actual age difference matters. A 19 year old with a 25/26 year old? Not an issue. A 19 year old with a 38/40 year old? Umm…

    In my opinion, I think that the difference in life experiences/education/finances/etc. leads to inequality in the power dynamic, which can be worrisome for a younger person.

  48. Irishae says:

    I agree with the general consensus that there is no doubt some truth to all these younger-older relationship stereotypes. Preoccupation with youth, money, and power can be the driving force behind most of these couples. It makes for great gossip, too. Personally though, I find the use of words like “disgusting” to describe them for no other reason than age itself, without any other information about their relationship, harsh and discriminatory (and I can be a pretty judge-y and bitchy person). I’d like to see where this goes first, for now I’m not prepared to shit on their happiness.

  49. Aysla says:

    I know I should be creeped out by the age difference, but I don’t really give a damn. She’s of a legal age, he seems really happy (smiling in public!!)… so, to each their own.

  50. Doublesteff says:

    Ok I guess I’m the only one scrolling through posts and thought the article had to been a mistake because the first pic looked like Val Kilmer? The other pics not so much but that first one… Maybe I’m just cross eyed today. This is skeevy but at least the guy found his smile again. He was bumming me out and I wondered if he was a bit mental. Still think he’s a headcase but it takes one to know one?

  51. emipie says:

    Let them both have what they want. I spent most of my 20s dating dudes who were into their 30s. I’m not going to judge esp. based on the fact that my girl boner that I raged for Joaquin was killed over this weekend learning that I am a good 3″ taller than he is, and based on “I’m Still Here” he is insufferable.

  52. GainesvilleyEmployed says:

    I live in Gainesville. His mom is in a longterm relationship with a younger guy.

    I hope Joaquin is happy. Those kids had it hard growing up.

  53. homegrrrrl says:

    at least they can support each other in their mutual need for bras and hair products

  54. Blackbetty says:

    How do these relationships work out, eg Aaron Taylor Johnson? I consider myself mature, not obsessed with partying etc and would get rejected by guys 10 years older than me (wanted someone more mature), when I was 24/25

  55. tredd says:

    hmmmm…legal vs. what? DISGUSTING?!
    legal doesn’t mean $hit!
    How quickly y’all forget Woody Allen married to his DAUGHTER, Soon Yee