You guys know how I feel about Taylor Swift and her many relationships. I don’t care if Taylor dates dozens of dudes, I don’t care if she moved through men like Kleenex, picking them off in steady succession. I think Tay should get hers, sexually, romantically, financially, and whatever else. But here’s the problem: you can’t be a maneater AND the biggest victim in the world. You can’t show the world that you’re “on to the next one,” or that you’ve got a jumpoff waiting in the wings, and then write blind-item songs about how those guys did you wrong. That’s the cognitive dissonance known as Taylor Swift.
I feel strongly that Taylor wanted us to know about her new boyfriend. I feel like information got leaked to The Sun, and then information got leaked about how she was “bummed” that her private relationship became oh-so-public. Just as I’m sure that she’s bummed that Joe Alwyn is moving to LA to be closer to her (and to help his career). But just when did JoeTay begin? People Magazine has a suspicious new story in their latest issue:
After a public split from Calvin Harris and high-profile romance with Tom Hiddleston, Taylor Swift decided to make a change when it came to her romance with new boyfriend Joe Alwyn.
“Taylor has been insanely private about her relationship with Joe,” a source tells PEOPLE exclusively about the couple, who have been dating for several months. “She wanted to get to know him without any chaos. She has learned from the past.”
Jetting in under the radar and reportedly renting a house in North London, Swift is determined to keep her relationship out of the spotlight — and so is Alwyn. The Grammy winner, 27, was first spotted publicly hanging out with Alwyn, 26, after a Kings of Leon concert last October with a group of girlfriends, including Martha Hunt and Lorde. One month later, she caught a showing of his film Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk in L.A. with the Haim sisters and her mom Andrea.
“Joe’s a very normal, down-to-earth guy,” says another insider of the rising star, who just wrapped his film The Favourite. “He’s private and low-key.” And though the relationship is now public, “they’re on the same page on how to handle the attention,” adds the insider.
I’ve said before that time has no meaning under Emperor Bigly, but really… how is that JoeTay has only been together for “several months” and she’s been hanging out with him since October 2016? Even if they weren’t super-serious and exclusive in the first months, that’s still EIGHT MONTHS that they’ve been dealing with each other. If their first hangout was in October, that was also barely a month after the End of the Tiddlebanging. Remember this when Taylor’s album comes out later this year and there are a dozen blind-item songs about how Calvin Harris and Tom Hiddleston screwed her over. She moved from Calvin to Tom very quickly, and then within weeks of the end of Tiddles, she was already spending time with Joe. Again: I don’t give a sh-t if she’s a maneater. Good for her. But don’t whine about boys in your new album.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Does her manager do matchmaking? No seriously, how did she meet him?
They hung out before his break-out film came out. So she met him while he was a lower-key actor? How, where?
I think Emma stone introduced them from what I read. Not sure if that is true or not though.
He also did a photoshoot with Gigi Hadid last summer, I think.
I like her music but honestly I couldn’t give a F$ck less about her personal life. These stories BORE me no end!
Seriously. Its like same sh*t different day in her world. YAWN.
Quelle surprise!
In that it is not surprising in any way. Wasnt this timeline of her moving on already established? Taylor appears to never want to be single long.
I don’t think she actually has relationships. She just seems to need a guy to help her image and find new drama for her songs. Frankly she should keep feuding with Kanye West and maybe both of them can make some good music out of it
So is this presumably to continue the narrative that SHE was the one who dumped Tom because he wasn’t private enough and that she is NOT a media Svengali?
Tom was just a tool to make Calvin jealous. Soon as she realised it wasn’t working, Tom’s much publicised bum was dumped. She was able to move on to Joe so quickly because she never had real feelings for Tom in the first place.
She wanted her affair with Tom to be very public so Calvin would be unable to avoid seeing it. I think Tay did want him back but it all backfired.
More like Kim and Kanye had the receipts on Taylor lying, so Taylor dumped Calvin and set up fake paparazzi photos with her fake boyfriend Tom in order to distract the media from all the snake emojis soon to be wafting Taylor’s way.
That’s the narrative that’s being pushed, she’s now so private.
Because a British guy, who probably had barely heard of Rhode Island, would have been able to tell the paps on which specific rock they could be found in the Watch Hill section of Westerly.
Well I don’t know about that either way. But to show anyone your location iPhone has a feature and you don’t need to know what address you’re at to use it.
Who believes this crap???? I’m seriously starting to think she’s gay now – why else would she have these weird publicised relationships?
Absolutely. I don’t like outing usually but this is getting ridiculous. All celebs manipulate their image but she is obnoxious at this point.
…at This point??? She’s been obnoxious since she hit puberty.
Why not? Just because she’s in a relationship doesn’t mean she’s happy. She could be hurt by one guy and still jump into a new relationship.
But I’m not sure I get the outrage about her blind item songs. Why has it been fine for male novelists to mine their personal life but not Taylor Swift? Katy Perry was hardly home crying over Bad Blood–they’re both laughing their way to the bank.
Agreed. I hate to defend her but male singers and poets have been doing this since the beginning of time.
There’s a difference between writing something that can be strongly assumed to be about someone, and actually filling your writing with hints that relate to a particular set of pap photos or piece of clothing or a rumour. Then there’s her liner notes, full of clues.
She’s not just writing about her experiences, she’s very deliberately making other people’s private lives public. If she was like most singers, you could assume a certain song was about say, Harry Styles, but you wouldn’t be 100% because it’s still fairly generalised. But does things like include lyrics about a necklace they were both seen in, lyrics that add nothing at all to the song, just so everyone’s 1000% sure it is about him.
Lots of artists use their personal life for material, however I’m struggling to think of anyone who used – or has the perception of using – personal relationships purely for publicity purposes in their work.
Pr relationships go back to old Hollywood, either to promote an image or for bearding purposes, but that was from the studio.
I totally agree with the first point. Just because she moved on quickly doesn’t mean she wasn’t hurt. (example: scenario where guy cheats on you, you might move on quickly but still have been wounded).
Writing songs about real life is typical for songwriters. The most authentic material to mine is your own experience. That being said…spelling out mystery clues in the liner notes in your album is a step too far. Putting capital letters in the song lyrics that spell out MAPLE LATTES in a song supposedly about Jake G. is just lame and immature. Maybe she is regretting playing those publicity games earlier, though. She was pretty young when that happened.
YES! Jumping from one person to another seems like a sign of insecurity, so it’s not surprising to me if she’s also wounded/petty about the past. In my weaker moments, I’ve jumped into a new relationship too fast because I wanted to win a breakup. As much as I’d have liked you to believe I was an unflappable maneater, truth was I was wounded (and petty lol).
Also, why can’t a girl be a victim/maneater? Seems like a rehash of the old virgin/whore dichotomy. No Tay fan here, but come on!
Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I think this will fit into her new album perfectly. I honestly think she’s gay. She will write about hiding her romance, which she has with Karlie Kloss. Who suspiciously looks just like her new man.
That makes sense. I mean, I guess it is a theory (conspiracy), but that’s a good one. I love her songs and she is so good at writing about these relationships. She reminds me a bit of George Michael and his music before he came out.
But if she was gay and wanted to hide it shouldnt she not be this attention seeking with her love life? Wouldnt staying under the radar be way better?
I understand that she is way more succesful with dating famous men than she would be if she was private but if its about keeping your sexuality a secret it would be smarter.
It also makes it way more difficult to come out. If she was with one guy for longer and then said “I realized I am gay” Im sure the majority of people would embrace her. But if every men you dated ended up in your songs and all relationships that were all very short were sold as The One and Taylor as the victim, there is going to be backlash.
But she likes the attention that her beards give her. She’s dated guys that have big followings because she likes the spotlight. She likes having people guess her blind items. She likes that people are jealous that she’s dating the big names. All of this narcissistic behavior doesn’t stop because she’s gay. Which I believe she definitely is. She enjoys being seen as desirable.
I honestly don’t think Taylor is gay. Though, to be fair, Taylor is such an a-sexual entity in my mind that I could definitely be missing something.
I said it above. It is pretty much an open secret. I sometimes wonder if she doesn’t get a huge laugh at people speculating about her love life.
The pictures of them hanging out in October were discovered by her fans on Tumblr, the press picked up the story from there.
I agree with what Laney said the other day. She needs to embrace her man-eater, heartbreaker, player persona for her next album.
Personally I think she will. The last campaigns of her were different. Red’s promotion was all about the heartbreak, 1989’s was all about her friends and the single life… I hope this time around she finally embraces her manipulative, player persona. It would be a nice change
They have friends in common too don’t they , as in Lilly Aldridge’s husband or he’s a friend of a friend. I really hope she owns it too , and I may not like TSwift , but she does pop up in my running playlist a lot, and I need fresh material
Is there a possibility that they were maybe just friends when they first met in October? Acquaintances and then they started to get closer in the past few months? I mean it sounds like a big group were hanging out back in October. Perhaps he was friends with some of those people and that was the first time he met Taylor. And maybe they didn’t see each other for a while after that and then started dating. Shockingly people can meet a few times before they become an item.
I agree though, she should stop playing the victim in her songs. If she is such a good songwriter then she can certainly write about things other then how people screwed her over.
Taylor is a trophy collector. I’m surprised that whatever she had with Calvin Harris lasted as long as it did because of Taylor’s collecting habit.
She was on tour most of the time she was dating Calvin.
I think Tom will get at least one “famewhore” song – the PR line in all those Sun articles is that Tom was using her. In fact the original article breaking the Joe story was downright libel “the former couple split as Taylor became increasingly aware that Tom was using her fame to boost his profile and standing in Hollywood” – and got changed. Now Sun articles just say that her former boyfriends did exactly that with no name mentioned. Her line has always been that he was “falling in love with her for the wrong reasons” from back in September and it’s what is being pushed now. So I think he’s going to get some kind of song. As I said yesterday, just in time for Thor 3 promo.
Falling in love… for all the wrong reassssooooons.
This is totally going to be a song.
I’d bet a year’s salary that line will come up somewhere in a song. Someone will have to let me know tho as I won’t be listening to it.
I think you’re right, we’ve got at least one “famewhore” song to suffer through. And the way that narrative (ugh) is being pushed in each article, it might just be the first single.
It’s interesting how each article gets progressively softer on the ‘Tom was just using me’ angle. Do you suppose her team saw that everyone was rolling their eyes at the notion that the evil ex-boyfriend was to blame for all her PR woes last summer and realized that if they kept pushing that idea it might actually backfire? As a fan of Hiddleston, I was very much looking forward to ignoring Taylor Swift for the rest of my days, until she and her team tried to lay ALL of the responsibility for any ridicule squarely at his feet. I don’t think that many of his fans that will let that stand without protest.
I think the Sun might have backtracked on its initial statement “Taylor became increasingly aware that Tom was using her fame to boost his profile and standing in Hollywood” because that was pure libel. It wasn’t even “Taylor thought he might be using.. . ” I wonder if that original statement came straight from her PR, then the legal department at the Sun said – “whoa be careful there”. Yeah they are shifting all the blame for Hiddleswift squarely onto him. Poor little TayTay was just an innocent. NOW she has a nice low-key guy (not Loki though!) Meanwhile old famewhore Tom has spent the last few months doing KSI promo and otherwise getting coffee and going for runs. I think he is filming IW now however. Not been seen on coffee runs for a while.
She will try but no one is buying her shtick anymore. Her so secretive relationship is being pushed in the press. No one buys that she is private not her super secret boyfriend who now lets us know that he is moving to LA for his career and hoping to use this new attention for more roles. People are not stupid, but her PR game certainly is of late. She may try to rebrand as a man eater, but you can’t be throwing shade at the men you dumped and acting like they used you for fame when you are trying to make money off of trashing them publicly in not so blind item songs. Snake is as snake does.
That story of hers just doesn’t work. The big horrible moment was he asked her to attend the Emmys? After she had hired paps tailing them for over a month? And this was after he said in an interview that he didn’t know if he got to bring someone? He went back to Australia after Comic-Con and quietly resumed work, with one or two ventures out to promote TNM while she was having her daily trips to the gym chronicled. After it ended, except for attending awards shows at which he was nominated and a brief flurry of promotion for Kong, he’s been quiet for months while she’s been dropping little tidbits of “maybe she’s involved with Drake?” and numerous articles about how she has disappeared. If you want to disappear, there aren’t numerous articles about how you disappeared.
I’m not a pop or country music fan at all,but I know she has written many songs about her exes and breakups. Will any guy one day realize she’s not there for a relationship, just something to write a song about
The first couple of guys might not know
But it was pretty clear Tom knew ans Joe too
They are also using hi profile relationship with her now for their own gains
“He’s private and low-key.”
Nothing says private and low-key like dating Taylor Swift!
I have enjoyed not seeing or hearing from her for the past several months. I find her to be extremely childish and annoying.
Maybe the maneater is part of her new image for her new album. After all that happened in 2016 (Calvin calling her out on Twitter, her world tour with that English guy and especially Kim and the receipts) the forever victim image wasn’t working anymore, she needed some rebranding.
Everything about her seems to be calculated, meticulously thought, a strategy, even her dating life.
Her new relationships mysteriously leaks by the same tabloid that leaked her previous relationship just when her “enemy” is promoting a song about her and his ex is promoting his first solo album.
Whose ex?
Harry Styles just released a solo album… they dated
It’s funny that Taylor is considered by many of her parents’ fans as a pure, untouched pop star but Beyonce, who’s been with the same man forever, is basically a sl*t.
Ah, let her have all the men she wants. We live in better times for women.
Interesting timing of this People exclusive (a day or so after Katy Perry answered a question about their feud)…
And her “friends” doth protest too much about how ‘private’ he/she/they is/are.
Granted, she’s annoying and this is the same exact Taylor Swift Boyfriend rollout from time immemorial. But it’s weirdly comforting to know that no matter what happens in the world, Swifty will always be out there, drawing up contractual relationships for music material.
Why can’t she do both? The men get away with it all the time in music. In fact most of my favorite songs/ albums I love have been written about someone and we know who it’s about. Pink for example has written some of the most amazing songs and they are about her current husband but at the time was her ex. There is so much to dislike about Taylor but this is not one of them for me. She can be hurt and write a song about it but still move on but then again it’s probably all fake and all for publicity. I like Harry styles but he is even using his very brief Taylor relationship for his new album.
Yes, please whine about it.
Write awful ‘dudes done me wrong’ songs..
It takes our minds off Comrade Assbarf, the radioactive cheeto in charge.
I had a Kanye/Taylor dream last night and woke up with the worst headache. And in my dream Taylor had thick ankles. Kanye was nice and just wanted me to listen to his new music. The funniest thing about all of this is I’m not a fan of either, nor have I ever listened to Kanye’s or Taylor’s music. I blame Celebitchy for the dream and the headache 😉
I suspect she leaked all the info to the Sun. There are blind rumors that some reporters are secretly investigating her sexual preference and this story is a distraction
@Dobbs – The reporters are behind the times. Quite a few of us already suspected strongly that every one of these, including Hiddles, was either a blind for her, or both parties. At this point, dating her is nearly a form of coming out without making a public announcement.
They are trying to retcon this guy into her past time line. It’s making her team look like idiots.
I think her team has a choice: either make it look like Tay is in an established real relationship with Joe that has developed over months, but that seems like she moved on from Tom with little break. Or, she is in a sudden but intense relationship with Joe, which looks like the Tom thing all over again. Couldn’t she have kept her head down a little longer, never mind, Katie came out with a new album so we couldn’t stay out of the press.
Didn’t she already have a boyfriend named Joe?
Her need to distract from bad headlines news and to take attention from exes trying to promote themselves and their projects is her undoing. Her petty ways is making for dumb PR. There was no real reason to come out with this storyline or a new boyfriend rollout right now other than to pull focus from Katy and Harry. She should have just been quiet. She is making herself look like a hypocrite and a liar, not a good look.
this new BF story broke right after those TMZ pics, where she looks like what I can describe as hammered shit. Wondering if this dating story is covering for some mental or emotional issue she is receiving professional medical help for. Its why this enter thing took me by surprise, those pics do not look like a woman who is in LOVE but battling anxiety or depression.
Beards in glass houses…..
Yeah but she could still be “done wrong” by men and still be able to move on quickly. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, I’m just saying it’s possible.
Pure bunny boiler. The woman plays the men and the media like fiddles.
And not listening to any more “sources” mentioned by PEOPLE – who also told us that Hiddles was about to propose, remember?
US Weekly had the proposal announcement, Not People.
Both did.
Three multiple month relationships in a year? Taylor, how are you not emotionally exhausted? I mean, live your life, hook up with as many consenting men (or women) as you want but it seems exhausting.
this BF story took me by suprise because Taylor looked exhausted and mentally drained in those TMZ photos.
For all I think Tom’s interviews and so forth earlier this year were damage control, on the off chance he did like Taylor, the past week’s had to have been rough. There’s nothing worse than having trouble getting over a break up while finding out an ex quickly moved on.
Even if it was entirely PR, it still has to sting to find out you were so very replaceable. I’ve seen companies wait longer to rehire for a position.
I wonder if he knew? She has been living in North London (but further north from him). Did Ed Sheeran blab? Tom did tell Taffy he could not live his life in hiding — which is what she’s been doing for the last few months. Maybe she suggested they do just that?
He hasn’t seemed like a sad man. He was jumping with joy on the Thor set the day the breakup was announced. He is not crying over the loss of TS. That GQ was damage control to get in front of the story and control the narrative before he went to promote a film.
That’s what I think too. The break-up story about just using her for her fame was already out there and circulating, so GQ was a way of mitigating that. Not a bad play to make really – convince the world you had real feelings for someone who is about to trash you via pop song and they become the ones that look cold and heartless.
Since when does a person have to look sad 100% of the time after a breakup, particularly when they are at work?
I’ve been depressed, been brokenhearted, and still made jokes and laughed with my friends and coworkers, ESPECIALLY in front of cameras!
Not saying he’s not faking, I just don’t think this is sufficient evidence one way or another. Honestly I’d be more suspicious if he was carefully keeping a very consistent “poor Tom” image.
Of course. Because that’s how she is. I don’t know if I believe the gay/ bearding rumors or that the relationships are completely fake. I think the relationships are real but come with something to sweeten the deal (it’ll help dispelthe gay rumors or it’ll up your US profile or it’ll help you shed your playboy image etc etc) and usually the guy is completely in the dark about the real purpose for why she’s dating him. Like she dates with an agenda, not because she likes the guy and just wants to be with him. She uses a reality show type formula to build her entire career and public image. She simply isn’t a pop singer. She’s a brand and a product and what she sells isn’t just music, she sells her personal life and drama.
Swift is like Trump, not a person but a BRAND unto themselves, like Trump now as President, they are both ruining their Brands, people are not buying this current relationship as real, and Trumps’ presidential antics are ruining his brand. Ivanka cannot sell her goods under her name anymore and more and more NYC buildings want the TRUMP name off of them.
I think this current relationship is just going to IMPLODE
On a recent post of few days ago I mentioned that it was reported on the news here in L.A. that she was spotted at the Cinerama Dome in L.A. seeing the Long Walk home movie and that she was in town around the time of the Emmy’s – so was Tom – I saw him out and then at an after party. I speculated that they were again sneaking around and was shot down by many. Now we know that this new boytoy was out and about with her and her mother to see the film as well – so it did begin in October? I can’t believe that TH was still wining over this in January to GQ…if he went along with it. If he was really in love with her – he missed all the signs of her using him….for an educated man, I find this sad…for him. Perhaps he has grown alot from this…
@anonla Educated people are not necessarily any better at understanding people than anyone else. Sometimes they are worse.
He was never in love with her. That was a swiftie fairy tale.
Tom Hiddleston’s GQ interview was the worst damage control ever printed. It felt fake and the female journalist came off as a crazy fangirl. Whoever advised him to go “all sensitive” should be fired stat. And he should really concentrate on his acting not on his image.
Agreed, I understand the thought process behind it, but it was not sincere. He is not sad, was never sad. Neither was TS, for that matter. Neither party was sad for the end. That much has always been clear. She was walking around looking happy with her nose in the air the day or two after it was over. He was jumping around, playing to fans the same time period. There was a better way to get ahead of it and explain the really unfortunate tank top incident than what they tried to do.
But his misstep on that interview is nothing in comparison to her trying to roll out a boyfriend and then claim that they both are uber private and try to pin the whole fiasco last summer on Tom. Like I mentioned before, her petty ways makes for stupid PR moves.
Tom let himself get painted as a brokenhearted sap to avoid what he appeared to be when it ended so soon, a famewhore opportunist.
I have no idea of his true feelings. The jumping around in Brisbane was actually a few weeks before the breakup news. And work has always been his true love so it was not odd that he was responding to the love of the crowd (and Chris H was there too – and he loves Chris!). The day of the breakup he was photographed looking unhappy after a run, but that might have had nothing to do with anything (or it might have been after reading that somehow it was all his fault because he was a famewhore). However one way or another it is not possible to tell what a person is feeling from a photograph (which he said to Taffy by the way). So maybe you are right that he was putting on an act for Taffy, or maybe not. I doubt we’ll ever really know.
It was really the only route left open to him, characterizing their relationship any other way would have actually made him look worse – and would have played right into Team Taylor’s efforts to paint him as an unfeeling opportunist that had used a poor, innocent girl for his own career advancement.
Leaving aside the explanation about the tank top (which I agree was highly ridiculous), I thought the interview did what it needed to.
Your theory the other day had it all happening at the time of the SAG awards, which are in January and which he did not attend and the movie is Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk, which was in theaters in November. Long Walk Home is a different film.
I got my awards show mixed up – that’s all…I attend many events and sometimes they all roll into one for me – it was around the Emmy’s and it was reported on the local news here that she was at that movie (Billy Lynnn’s Long Walk Home) with her mom, brother and others….TH was in town then. I saw him…But he never looked sad to me when I saw him…maybe a little jetlagged around the Golden Globes.
Oh so you are ATTENDING to these things now. Suuurrrrreeeee.
Awards shows and dates are not the only things you get mixed up. There is a whole lot of crazy in your posts.
Well, you know, we’ve all been distracted by Emperor Tiny Hands maybe we missed the cues.
🙂
Taylor definitely needs to embrace her man-eater, heartbreaker, player persona for her next album. It would be a refreshing change for her to own it. I would stan hard if she did.