This Sunday: The Meghan Markle story – by Andrew Morton @AndrewMortonUK pic.twitter.com/W2wjnIUtnN
— SundayTimesMagazine (@TheSTMagazine) March 30, 2018
Katie Nicholl is releasing a book about Prince Harry ahead of his wedding, which we’ve known for weeks now. But did you know Andrew Morton is releasing a book about Meghan Markle? It’s an ebook called Meghan, A Hollywood Princess. Andrew Morton arguably made a name for himself for his books about Princess Diana. The first book he did about Diana was with Diana’s help – she gave him hours and hours of interviews, but because of the arcane relations between royalty and press, he couldn’t quote her directly and there was some question about whether Diana “agreed” to the so-called unauthorized biography. She did agree to a lot of it initially, although Morton published a lot of stuff in her lifetime which made her very unhappy, and he’s done books about her after her death too.
All of which to say, I’m concerned about this book and Meghan should be concerned as well. Morton doesn’t have a reputation for making stuff up out of thin air – he actually does the leg work, or he used to, and he doesn’t mind doing interviews with people *around* a royal figure, people who have an ax to grind. People like… Meghan’s first husband Trevor Engelson. The first excerpts from Morton’s book are about her first marriage. Girl, I’m worried!
In an excerpt from Meghan, A Hollywood Princess published by The Sunday Times this weekend, Morton reveals new details about Meghan’s relationship with Hollywood producer Trevor Engelson, who she was married to in 2011. Morton writes in the book that Meghan and Engelson met at a dive bar while she was getting her start in acting… Meghan was starting to work as an actress, nabbing a small sitcom role and joining Deal or No Deal. When Meghan got her break in Suits, the show filmed in New York and then Canada, meaning the actress would be based away from her then-new fiancé.
Meghan and Engelson thought “the sacrifice was going to be worth it,” Morton writes, noting that it was just a month before the wedding when Suits was renewed for a second season, confirming that the long-distance nature of their romance would continue. The duo tied the knot in 2011, in what a bridesmaid recalls to Morton was a “moving wedding,” complete with the couple writing their own vows.
Then Meghan flew back to Canada after the celebration for filming. Morton writes in The Sunday Times excerpt that it wasn’t long before “cracks began to appear in their marriage.”
Markle announced the end of their two-year marriage in the summer of 2013, and they officially divorced a year later. But the separation was “totally out of the blue” for Engelson, according to Morton.
“Trevor went from cherishing Meghan to, as one friend observed, ‘feeling like he was a piece of something stuck to the bottom of her shoe,’ ” writes Morton.
Oooh, what do you want to bet that Trevor spoke to Andrew Morton? What do you want to bet that Ninaki Priddy spoke to Morton too? Ninaki was Meghan’s childhood friend who attended Meghan’s first wedding, and Ninaki sold Meghan out last December. Literally, Ninaki sold all of her old photos of Meghan to the British tabloids, and Ninaki told a f–ked up story about how Meghan abandoned the true love of her life, Trevor.
Apparently, Morton also reveals that Meghan dumped Trevor “by post” (meaning, she sent him a Dear John letter, I guess) along with her wedding ring. She just sent him her wedding ring through the mail! And the only thing she took from their West Hollywood home was the blender. Which makes me wonder if there’s a lot more to the story of Meghan’s first marriage, and if everything was as hearts-and-roses as Trevor and Ninaki would have had us believe.
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Despite her cooperation, the Diana Morton book was a hagiography full of self-pity and lies. It did / has done irreparable damage to everyone, Diana included. It should be pulped for the trash it is.
And so too this Meghan book which is clearly sourced from all the bitter bettys with an axe to grind.
Well said.
If Diana hadn’t gotten her version on record, we would have only had the Charles hagiography: “He was so long-suffering but that 20-year-old he married was just cray.” Give me a break. Diana is as hard on herself as on anyone else in the tapes.
She proved much more up to the role than those supposedly raised to it: Charles, Andrew and Edward. They would have harmed their sad sack self-indulgent selves whether she had been around or not.
Agreed.
In fact this onslaught on Meghan should make us all appreciate why Diana was to right to get her story out. These royal writers and their readers are basically in love with the monarchy. They see their job as protecting the royal family and then throw in the misogyny on which gossip thrIves. Now imagine a situation where the palace not only withdraws any media protections but actively begins to push a narrative to destroy you. We already have a taste of the path Chuck would have gone on, douches just call it “hos be crazy”.
Good for Di. And it evidently worked since even after 20 years of Chucks “sources” speaking to biographers, Dianas legacy is still strong and Charles remains the most unpopular member of that family. So unpopular that he and Camilla poll around the same numbers as Trump in the US.
I’m not here to re-litigate Charles OR Diana.
Only to point out that this particular book was / is a hagiography and was deliberately designed that way. Diana herself regretted this book.
You want a good book about Diana? One that isn’t a hagiography? How about Tina Brown’s book or Sarah Bradford’s book.
I agree with LAK.
Charles and Diana were both at fault for the demise of the marriage. Diana did fib quite a bit, the bulimia was out of control and Charles was stubborn and cheating non stop. I don’t believe Charles ever stopped having sex with Camilla. Charles lied to Dimbleby. And it was an arranged marriage so Charles and Diana were doomed from the start.
I had to go to the dictionary for ‘hagiography’ …. I’m with LAK! 🙂
Citresses
If Chuck only cheated with Cami, it would’ve been a different story. But he had an army of ladies. So his story of forbidden love is pure fiction.
+1 love how we forget all of Charles’ other mistresses.
I agree with LAK — and also with Mills and formerly. Charles had quite the pity posse of women attending to his burdensome woes. Camilla was just the one who went for the gold.
Kanga is always forgotten and was friends with Diana.
Tina Brown’s book should be read by everyone who has an obsession with Diana!
Pardon moi, but Diana singled out Morton to write her book and spoke to him exclusively, while he was taping her life story. She needed this book to shine some light on her tampon-connoisseur husband. At the time, she was legitimately afraid he was trying to pronounce her mentally unstable and this book totally caught him an unaware.
Agree.
I agree LAK.
Seriously Diana in a roundabout way may have sown the seeds for the beginning of the end of the monarchy. She told a lot of lies and exaggerations while omitting a lot too.
diana was vindictive and foolish and the Morton book was disastrous but Diana wasn’t going to be the undoing of the monarchy. People put up with a lot for their bread and circuses. it wasn’t a cheap tell-all that caused a national crisis. It wasn’t Diana or Charles’ shenanigans that nearly toppled the throne – it was the public perception that the queen didn’t give a damn about Diana’s death. She overestimated her worth and quickly self-corrected. Kate, Sophie and Meghan have been treated with kid gloves by the rf because of Diana.
@Shotcaller
I agree with you, but I mean in the sense that her embellishments and portrayal as the consummate victim live on and Charles can’t escape it no matter how many good things he does. The public only remembers the bad but not that they were on great terms at the end. No one remembers his tears as he escorted her casket. Or that they made peace with each other and actually enjoyed each other’s company. She said nice things about him and jokey anecdotes because she had matured and been through years of therapy. She didn’t care about Camilla and had loved other men far more than she ever did Charles.
So when it is his turn on the throne will the public have the patience for much more after royal indulgence juxtaposed with Brexit and the high price it will cost the UK?
She regretted a lot of her actions, but she isn’t here to correct them or change the narrative which I believe would have happened had she lived.
I don’t even think she would want to be seen as that Diana because she was a different person at the end. Far from the weeping Princess.
But the vitriol towards Charles is still there all these years later.
Where did you get that it did Diana harm? Setting the Camilla issue aside, that book allowed Di to get the story of her eating disorder and depression out before it could be span to invalidate her entirely. It also set a chronology of events that Charles has been unable to reset despite his notable attempt during the adultery confession interview. And most importantly, it gave the unitiated insight into how the machine runs. It was after this book that people understood the human cost of keeping up appearances.
It opened the door to the media harrassment of Diana. The media took the view that she had invaded her own privacy therefore it was perfectly reasonable to harrass her and invade her privacy with no fear of retaliation from the Palace.
Right upto that moment, as much as the media tried to harass her, the palace would shut it down. As an example, here is an interview from James Whitaker were he found out early about her eating disorder. The Palace and the establishment shut him down for daring to discuss it in the media.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/royals/interviews/whitaker.html
After Diana confirmed her ED and more via this book, the media started writing all sorts of articles without fear that the Palace or establishment figures would stop them or censure them.
But LAK, the information that she was the source was not revealed until after Diana died.
No discussion of media manipulation is complete without a mention of Mark Boland, Charles’ PR guru/attack dog.
Miss Mellisa: The revelation to the public wasn’t made until after her death, but the media knew as did the royal family. And that was a turning point in their relationships.
Further, the day this books was released and the media named her ex-flatmate as the source of the book, she very publicly visited said friend and kissed her outside her home in full view of the press pack which was interpreted as a sign that Diana endorsed
the contents of the book and the friend’s actions.
As the years went by, most of the public were aware she had cooperated to some extent especially after that kiss, but there was no concrete proof.
After her death, the big revelation was the subterfuge of how this book was put together. Including Andrew never meeting Diana directly, but sending a list of questions / clarifications via her friend who would tape the answers and collect additional material eg photos from Diana and deliver them to Morton.
That way Diana had plausible deniability that she had spoken to Morton or collaborated with him.
Shotcaller: True, but Mark was brought in years after Diana had opened the door. He was hired August 96, Morton book was Summer 92. He was brought in to clean up the mess she had caused. And regardless of personal feelings of how he went about it, he was very successful. Caused alot of damage to the family and between family members, but he was very good.
It’s a pity Diana died just as Mark was coming in. The PR battles between these 2 masters would have been epic to see.
LAK
Yes, Mark was much later. I knew but forget to make the distinction. I hate the way he went about things but he did much to refocus everyone on the big picture. His efforts removed layers of tarnish from Charles’ popular prospects. In the end it all benefits the BRF. I think even William and Harry have come to understand/accept this.
I tend to agree with LAK. William himself said that the media have to be handled very carefully because once you are too close and let them in it is a very slippery slope, this was a clear allusion to the case of his mother.
So the ex is merely a “bitter betty”? Nice.
Have you read the extracts? They sound like the interviews sold last year by the bitter ex-friend with a dollop of details from the bitter half-siblings’ many interviews. So yes. Bitter bettys.
The Ex doesn’t have to say a word when there is such a smorgasbord of interviews to use as source material.
And don’t forget, this ex is peddling a sit-com around about a woman who marries into the Royal family and has to share custody of the kids with her ex.
This POS is definitely trying to cash-in, same as her so called “friend”.
Bitter Betty is right along with her BFF Petty Patty. They have no dignity to tell stories that no one knows if they are even true.
The question isn’t really about the contributing sources being bitter. Personally my concern is the fact that she broke the marriage off by mail. I can easily believe people are “grinding their axes” in this book but it’s the facts of her behaviors in the book that interest me. Unless her ex “burnt the house down or killed her dog” then a face to face goodbye would be the only acceptable way to end the marriage. There is something cold in being able to end a marriage via mail. There’s a right way and a wrong way to do things and that is definitely the wrong way. Every marriage has problems but it’s safe to say no one deserves, except for house burning dog killers, to be notified that you’re done that way. No one on this board would think that was ok for their spouse to do so I don’t see why it would be ok for her. Unless we’re just saying she’s innocent and sweet and hasn’t made mistakes…in which case Carry on.
I want to read the book because the facts will paint a picture of who she is regardless of what the sources try to spin from it. Everyone is capable of drawing conclusions to her character based on facts.
You don’t know what went on in their relationship. And there are far more reasons to dump an ex via email or phone than the ones you listed.
So those two are the ONLY viable reasons to walk away from a marriage?
Interesting.
I think there are a number of reasons why someone wouldn’t this face to face and the last on the list would be burning down a house or killing a dog. Maybe she didn’t feel safe being alone in his presence. He could have been hostile and she didn’t want to confront him. She doesn’t owe him a confrontation. Especially since we don’t know the full story on why she left that way. There’s more too it than a nice guys get left out of the blue.
But we have absolutely no way of knowing if there is any truth to the mail story whatsoever. And it’s not as if Meghan can or will respond.
You have absolutely no way of knowing if the “facts” in that book are accurate. No way, but you are going to base your opinion of someone on a book that has absolutely no agenda whatsoever? Are you sure it’s facts you want?
Ok let me clarify for anyone that doesn’t get
What I’m saying or where I’m coming from.
I adore both of the Wales men because I think they’ve done extraordinarily well to be in the public eye in very trying circumstances.
They have been rather more restrained than most considering the level of stress, gossip, loss and scrutiny they’ve endured since birth. I really was excited about Meghan when she came on the scene! She’s beautiful, poised, seems compassionate, and she filled huge void in Harry’s life. I have been dreaming of what fairytale gown she’d wear for her wedding and looking up tiaras to imagine what she might pick. I am in love with the idea of this new Princess that is truly in love with Prince Harry and ready to contribute to charities. I still am hoping that’s what I find when I read the book. But yes it does raise a red flag IF she left her first husband with a “Dear John, I’m over it and by the way here are your rings.” She can still be wonderful but IF that’s a fact it makes me wonder. I never believed she didn’t know much about the royal family anymore than I believed Diana when she she said no one in the royal household never helped here when she first arrived. Doesn’t mean I don’t still adore her or that she didn’t have reason to feel that way in retrospect. But the fact is she did have help. Based on that fact and other statements by herself and acquaintances I have to acknowledge that Diana had a side that could be very misleading and vindictive toward Charles. I understand why because I personally couldn’t tolerate a Camilla. I. Other word if there’s mitigating factor in Meghan’s case, and I hope there is, I will be thrilled because like Diana, she’s not perfect and I don’t need her to be to admire her. I do reserve the right to question her character until I have a more complete picture of who she is. I admire people who make mistakes but have good character. I don’t need my Cinderella to be a white, innocent, doe eyed blonde but I do need her to truly be a good person at heart.
@Winteriscoming, Im just wondering what your plan is to get to the facts you are looking for that will convince you either way (Meghan is a jerk vs is vindicated). I hope you are NOT waiting to read Morton’s book to pass judgment on Meghan based on what you read in that book. Because as 99% of posters on here have stated, there is no way of getting to the facts, the only people that know what really went down are Meghan and Trevor and right now, we are only hearing one side of the story. In order to get to the truth, we ALWAYS need to hear both sides of the story, which I doubt you gonna hear since Meghan is not talking. If you really like Meghan, why not try to like her with no conditions attached? Because you gonna hear a lot of stuff from a lot of people that you have no way of verifying whether they are factual or not. Just sayin’.
…at least she gave it back. Many, if not most, women who go through a divorce keep their rings, and no one sees that as dishonest or dishonorable. What Meghan’s sending her ring back signifies to me is that he hurt her in some way and she was telling him she was through.
@masamf
You’re right I’m not going to KNOW if the facts in the book are accurate. I expect that, like anyone else I’m getting to know, time will tell how if I feel about Meghan’s character.
You’re correct that she can’t answer on her own behalf but the longer she’s in the public eye the more we will know about her life. It happened to Diana, Kate, Sarah, Camilla, and Sophie. People formed their opinions given the information that became available.
Of course, everyone starts from an initial place of wanting or not wanting to like someone. I very much want her to be the real deal so I’m still in wedding celebration form! I plan on watching and discussing every detail with my twin sister…we did got together for William and Kate’s wedding too!
Kate had and has plenty of naysayers but I personally think she’s good hearted and loves her husband. She’s also been work shy.
I don’t need her to be perfect either. I think she genuinely loves William and maybe she’s finally starting to work but with baby 3 coming on board it won’t last.
I want to see both couples in 20 years still happily married with happy children and a body of work to be proud of.
Like @ Jenny I just had a few little alarm bells go off with Meghan and I’m hoping they are false alarms but I don’t just ignore them.
The ex sounds like a man feeling betrayed because she ended the marriage and she did not to drag out the ending in any way, form or fashion. Sounds like she could not wait to start the next chapter in her life without him and boy did she do it with the quickness.
The ex-friend that said that her ex-husband was the love of her life is flat out lying. Meghan’s behavior screams loud and clear that that is clearly not the case. Seems as though she married him and upon further getting to know him, knew she made a mistake and got out as soon as she was ready to do so.
One of the questions that should be asked is how soon into the marriage did Meghan begin to feel that this marriage should end? I bet you a million dollars it was not the day she emailed him. Second, she got out EARLY. That is your second clue that she did not want him in her life. LESSON: You cannot keep someone that does not want to stay.
The ex can yap ad nauseum after the fact; however, all of his talking is only going to reveal how much she did not feel that they could last long term in a relationship…if she were to play the role of wife, girlfriend, friend, side piece, etc. What is sad is that he does not have closure and he needs to let go pronto for his sake.
I think a better biography of her could have been written if she had chosen a better writer. Morton has a really sentimental writing style.
I don’t know if the book hurt the monarchy itself, but I do think the book hurt Diana in the sense that it made it easier for Camilla to be seen publicly with Charles. I probably would have keep everything secret just to torture Camilla with pictures of me smooching Charles on public outings. Yeah, I’m vindictive like that.
Oh, I would have gone out of my way to turn on the heat in public just to make her question where she was placed in Charles’s heart. I assume Camilla would have annoyed me to no end so that’s why I’m theorizing an alternative scheme-y plan.
If she had lived, I think it would have been a mistake to have collaborated on a biography of herself. But because she died tragically, I do think it’s good for the historical record to have some insight into how she perceived things (whether her perception was distorted or not, I have no idea, but I do think a counter-record has to exist to the other accounts). But, like I said, I do think she could have chosen a way better writer who could have given the positive spin she wanted without the terrible writing style. I do think Diana providing her side of things has helped William and Harry enable a level of protection of their wives. So I think it hurt Diana but helped everybody else.
If this book turns out to be terrible, it’ll probably be because of Morton’s writing style. He doesn’t feign objectivity very well.
Speaking of Charles and Camilla, i wonder how many realise that it was Diana who inadvertently supplied the true love thwarted backstory that allowed them to clean up their timeline and expunge inconvenient truths and people.
I don’t think she meant to do it nor thought of such an outcome, but they, Charles and Camilla, ran with it and it is now the accepted truth.
You said it. I don’t find Andrew Morton any type of Lady Antonia Fraser who’s biographies I adore. He’s capitalizing, as are Meghan’s so-called friends. When I first read the header, I thought I could see myself doing that, if the circumstances, and ex, called for it.
If even a small portion of this is true they should be worried. Yikes.
Who is they? And why should they be worried?
I would want to counter anything that paints me in this light.
Also why I couldn’t be famous because I would go insane
Honestly, I hope they’re not worrying. There is no point. The book will be released, the people that already hate her will have something to despise her with again. Most people will forget. There’s always going to be talk. I would assume that the majority of the public will understand that the people who spoke to the author are telling one side of the story. The fact that I had to read the quote about him cherishing her one minute, to being blindsided the next? Please.
Fake news.
Perhaps Trevor was blindsided because he was in denial about his wife’s unhappiness. It seems unlikely to me that there were no warning signs.
I love the idea of meghan and blender, Thelma and louise-ing out of her marriage. lol
I honestly don’t see why they should be worried. So she was married before, and sent back her wedding ring through the mail? And? Unless she burned the house down after taking the blender, I really don’t see anything particularly shocking here. 😛
People are going to talk sh*t about her no matter what, unfortunately. I think the best thing to do would be to just ignore it and move on.
Agreed Ladymtl. Letizia’s ex husband also has a book out. It comes with the territory. Best to ignore it or Streisand effect will barge through the door. Gossip comes and goes every day.
My takeaway from the story was that no man shall come between Duchess Meghan and her smoothies! I hope the wedding registry includes a power plug adapter so that she can run her Vitamix from a British outlet!
@Chaine
Funniest thing I’ve read all morning. Thank you.
Why should anyone be embarrassed about the way they handled their personal relationship? It’s like – who are the judges? Relationships are personal and nobody but the two people involved know what really happens.
I think Markle doesn’t give a shit. As she shouldn’t. She is getting married in two months and will enjoy a very nice life.
I don’t think she should care, either. It’s past history, written by a sneak, with entries from snakes.
I don’t think she would be embarrassed. I think that she’s as cold as ice and it’s true that she just dumped him without even caring about it at all.
It doesn’t bode well for Harry, but the fame and riches that come from marrying him will keep her around for the long haul, I’m sure.
Jag – I’ve no idea if she is cold or hot, but I’m sure all of the things that Harry has to offer will keep her a happy woman for a long while.
I keep thinking be careful with how you treat the people you pass on your way up society’s greasy pole. They could return one day to bite you which is what seems to be happening with Morton’s book and the press coverage in magazines like the Daily Mail. Every disgruntled abandoned ex-family member and friend is having their say.
also true
Sometimes people become disgruntled with you simply because they don’t get what they want from you.
And sometimes those are the very people you have to walk away from.
Bitterness is not her fault. That is on them. Jealous can’t keep people from talking. It is funny that the main source of negativity is the estranged sister who didn’t grow up with her, the ex husband and the ex BFF who sided with the husband. That tells me all I need to know.
That is true but these same people are also showing why she left them behind in the first place. They are willing to embarrass themselves and her in the media for a few dollars, I can’t imagine what they were like during the relationship.
Very true!
Expect the Defenders/Sugars to jump in here, because we all KNOW Meghan is the most kind, humanitarian-minded person on the planet cause she tells us so.
If this came out about almost anyone else, people would call her a “User,” “Manipulative” and “Climber.”
I do think Meghan has a pattern of dumping people, dogs and things when they become inconvenient. I dont think she seems like a very nice person. The dogs did it for me. What happened to her dog who broke his two legs? Of course, we’ll never know the real story, but many people are saying the same thing about her: she uses you, then discards you. That she has no cousins or relatives to be in her wedding is pretty odd, too.
Should be amusing watching as she reveals herself in the coming months.
what? her dog with the broken legs died?!
@Original lala
I don’t think the dog died. Ultimately we don’t know the story behind the broken legs. I’m not sure if the palace even confirmed whether it happened or not.
What did Trevor ever give her? How did she use him? And her siblings? What have they done for her? She removed toxic people. Meghan is not saint but Jesus, she ain’t kill your family either. I think people are projecting to rationalize how she got here. That’s not on her.
You’re arguing straw-man points, @Veronica
@Veronica, please don’t paint all of us Meghan fans with the same brush like that. I like her, but by no means do I think she is Mother Teresa reincarnated.
Also, we don’t know yet who will be in the wedding so she very well may have family members we’re unaware of — discreet ones who haven’t sold her out to tabloids.
Dear Veronica, by your own words…I think you should give her more than a few months…Instead give her years to reveal herself. As I recall she was friends with the Ex friend for more than 20 years before that friend decided that she was a horrible person (& even after that revelation according to the ex friend, Meghan dumped her)…The ex husband dated her for 6-7 years before they married and then he was married to her for about 2 years (9 years there)…The half sister never said anything publicly (she had a public twitter account until recently) about Meghan for 30+ years…so i guess you will have to give it at least 9 years (going by Meghan’s pattern & picking the lowest number) . Nowadays, time passes by so fast it might feel like months even though it might be years…
@Veronica, she is just a normal human being. Thank, God, or we’d all be in tears: someone so thin, smart, rich and saintly exists AND is marrying a prince?!! What is left for the rest of us?
@veronica please stop with your faux concern about her dogs.Like you care.She rehomed the dog and didn’t bloody leave him on the side of the road.If you care so much,extend that ‘concern’ to Will and Kate’s dog
Totally forgot about that dog–yikes! Why does Will and Kate’s dog need ‘concern’ I need to pay more attention to this wedding 🙂
@Veronica, you have no idea what you are talking about. Just like the rest of us on this website. You are so invested in going after someone you know nothing about.
It’s kind of sad. None of us have a clue what happened to her dog, the same goes about her relationship. Make a bit of an effort to be reasonable!
When all else fails, drag William and Kate into the conversation. I think Veronica has every right to question Meghan’s treatment of her dogs, her ex, the ghosted boyfriend before Harry. She isn’t off to a real good start with some. I doubt Markle cares, not like this is an elected position, but we all have our opinions and not everyone is enchanted with Meghan.
Well, Veronica Trixie has been known to insert MM whataboutisms into Katie Keen threads, so I think we all have every right to question WK’s treatment of their dog, Willie’s ex-girlfriends (even Jecca), Katie’s ex-boyfriend (it was only one, right? LOL!), and whoever they might have ghosted, insulted or snubbed. Neither one of them are on good footing with some people because of their lack of a good work ethic, and everyone is definitely not enchanted with them.
Now I am worried about Lupo. We haven’t seen him in a while so where is he? Anmer? KP? Buckleberry? Kate wasn’t seen buying dog food at Waitrose today so what gives?
@LV487, no one has any right to question Meghan about her life, her relationships nor her dogs, NO one.
And Veronica drags Meghan into some Kate threads.So? I’m saying if Veronica cares so much about what happened to Meghans dogs,she should care about Kate and Williams
It’s going to be an interesting decade or so. Then the scandal/divorce, and she’ll live a life similar to Fergie’s–well off, yes, for life, but that’s the only certainty. I’m sure M and H have their good qualities (and bad), but the fairy tale won’t last.
@Godwina, and who is it that can read the future and predict what will happen in 10 years, Meghan’s detractors? None of us know these people to predict what they might or might not do. People were so in love with Princess Diana and those lovers never even entertained the thought that she might not be a queen consort some day. But by the time she died, she was already a divorcee with no hope of ever becoming that queen consort. Kate lovers are very quick to point out how she is a future queen consort and a mother to future king, well…I say don’t count those chicks so fast, eggs haven’t hatched yet my friends. Until William ascends the throne, it’s too early to open that bubbly. Likewise, Meghan’s detractors are so quick to write her off and give her just a few years before she files for divorce and give them the satisfaction of saying “I told you so”, but again I say, don’t be too quick to judge and guillotine the woman. No one in this world is God.
@Masamf Who says no one has the right to question? Where are those rules written? Meghan knew public interest in her life, her choices, her relationships would be exposed by the media and people will not only question, some may downright judge. Too bad.
I suspect more smear campaigns as the wedding draws nearer. Morton seems to have decided to go negative about Meg, which will open the floodgates.
If she dumped him by post, then things were bad. Very bad. And taking nothing but the blender? For smoothies, I assume. That doesn’t fit the goldigger narrative… Sounds more like a woman desperate to leave an a-hole. I wonder if something happened between Trevor and Ninaki? Would make sense her cutting them so completely off.
This is the other thing I’m wondering and have for a while. The way the (former) bff talks…did she have a thing for him? Because she’s been very intense in her support of him. I don’t think we will ever know but that’s been nagging me ever since she gave that interview
That interview was bat$hit crazy. I just reread it last weekend, it struck me as very single white female-esque. That ex friend is super creepy, “Trevor is my family now.” Ick
Ex friend and Ex husband “friendship” gives me a bad vibe. Also if she was a social climbing gold digger as we are supposed to believe why not sue him for alimony. Heck make him sell the house and take half the proceeds. I mean keep the engagement ring and pawn that lol.
One has to be so over a man’s sh*t to send him the rings by post. Lol that’s very savage.
Nicole, I truly believe that the ex best friend wants the public’s attention. She seems to be bitter & jealous.
I mean, it’s possible that things were bad. But it’s also possible they were apart more than together, and things had run it’s course and she just said ‘eff it’ and did it that way. Maybe he wasn’t answering her calls and she just said ‘well here you go, dude’.
The thing with the blender is amusing, but I assume it’s mainly a case of them never really living together long. I’m going to guess she had pretty much all of her stuff in Toronto with her – there was no need for her to go through and get more things.
Their whole relationship just seems strange to me. Why bother getting married and not even being in the same country ever.
People live global lives now. It honestly bothers me when people don’t understand that. Like, I’m not judging you for staying in your hometown and getting married to your highschool sweetheart (not you, Erinn, obviously; it’s just a sore spot lol); I have never even known a professional life or romantic life that didn’t involve travel, lots of internet and digital networking, and long distances. It is what it is.
I’m relating this this. Leaving my ex I took what I wanted from what I brought in. If it was purchased for the house or my life with him I left it. Communication was done through lawyers. It was done for health and safety reasons. On the outside I’m sure it would appear cold, but theres always more to the story.
And now that Meghan is moving forward he is the wronged party and likely the more bitter of the 2. She should only be worried for the personal digs he can speak to. Short of that he should be ignored.
My husband travels a lot. We just make it work.
In the Internet era long distance relationships happen more than ever. 4 family members including myself were in long distance relationships and are married to those persons now. If you really want it you can achieve a successful long distance relationship.
Sorry guys – I mean it more for people who are legit living apart more than anything and who have separate main bases. I get that travel is a necessity for a lot of businesses. But it sounds like in their case, she was staying in TO a lot more than she was in the US.
I actually did marry my highschool sweetheart, though I did move away for college first – so it was long distance for that time. Obviously it can (and did in my case and all the others mentioned) work out. I don’t find traveling for work strange – but to me it sounded more like they never really had a home base. And I could be wrong here, but I think a lot of people who travel a lot do have that at least to some degree. If she only took the blender, I’m going to assume that none of the furniture or whatever was bought solely by her, and that she already had her clothes and most things she’d need.
I can’t shade her for leaving her ex this way, I moved out taking a lot of furniture that I paid for with me which is why he knew I had left him. My ex was a druggie, who while never beat me, beat the sh!t out of the woman who came after me. He sent me abusive messages afterwards etc.. so it was the best decision I made for my situation.
you dodged a bullet.
Dashing off with only a blender when he wasn’t around and sending the ring back without having to see him tells me more about him than it does about her. She did not want to see him, and there is a reason. He’s trying to exploit their relationship now. Something is up with him.
Yes a completely agree with you. My first thought when I hear how she left and what she took is that she was afraid. I don’t know the first thing about him (I barely follow stories about her and Harry) but it sounds like the actions of someone abused, afraid, mistreated.
This sets off major red flags for me. That’s not a “we grew apart” move.
THANK YOU! I am glad someone else is seeing this. She was with him for almost 10 years and suddenly she is avoiding him? She can’t be near him? That sounds more like FEAR than pettiness. And the fact all her close girlfriends have been with her through all this except the one who sided with the ex husband also speaks volumes especially when she is selling every detail of their friendship to the press.
We have a quorum on this one. That was my first thought — Meghan was either frightened of her ex or he did something so awful in her estimation that she wasn’t even willing to do the divvy up the household/one last meeting scenario.
So now her ex is an abuser? You would rather make that up than see Meghan as less than sensitive or kind? Of course.
Right! Meghan was the victim! We don’t know what happened between them. Meghan could be just as guilty as him.
My theory is, she found out about an affair he had (possibly not the first), at a time when the marriage was already on shaky ground for various reasons. In that situation, I’d just mail the rings back too.
This makes as much sense as anything else. We just don’t know.
Absolutely. I used to work with DV victims so this likely colors my perspective. But a woman who leaves her hubby without saying good bye face-to-face and doesn’t even ask for a division of assets is a red flag.
Not true. She could very well have dumped him by mail when she found a replacement and perhaps didn’t want to deal with confrontation. I’ve done it with boyfriends (husband seems really harsh). And my friend just left her husband and didn’t take a thing with her, not because he was a jerk, but because she felt guilty and decided he should keep it all because she had a wandering eye for literally their entire 5 year relationship.
@Lua I can see both not wanting the confrontation AND maybe there was someone new.
I once tried to break up with a bf and he threatened to commit suicide if I left.
when I finally broke up with him, I called and told him, so I couldn’t be manipulated anymore, and I too took almost nothing just so I could GET OUT. Started dating to forget my ex.
Nicholl and Morton – that is all you need to know!
Apart from the fact that Morton has cobbled together stories that have already been sold to the media, and most of the interviews in the book come from that so called ‘friend’ Nina Priddy and other low life who have been selling stories and their entire personal photo albums.
It is full of garbage. I have never read so much re hashed garbage in my life. This book sounds very cheap even by Andrew Morton’s standards…. ‘A £360 Vitamix blender symbolised the divide. She insisted her favourite kitchen appliance from their West Hollywood home come with her to Toronto. She packed it into the back-seat of her car. It then sat on the kitchen counter in the Toronto house, a material reminder that her home was no longer in Los Angeles’……😂
If I was Meghan I would be laughing my head off at this tripe.
Well, if it was a Vitamix, it’s understandable that she wanted to take it with her…
But seriously, she might just have been the only one who used it.
I hope that Vitamix is now in the kitchen of Harry and Meghan’s Kensington Palace cottage.
@Natalie, I wouldn’t take a 5+year old blender to KP even if it was a Vitamix. 😅😅 If she took it to Toronto with her in 2011, chances are it was bought sometime 2010 or earlier, which tells me it has served its time. She probably donated it to some women’s shelter when she left Toronto. I know that’s what I would have done.🤓
Do you get a free bucket of salt with every copy of this book?
A few years ago I had a friend who ended a long relationship by email, from the outside it was very cold hearted, many people thought she was cruel and unfeeling, the general chatter was that he was too good for her and she treated him in an awful manner. But those same people never saw the bruises or were with her that one night in hospital when that “nice, decent ” man broke her arm. I learned then that there is no way of knowing what goes on in any relationship by looking in from the outside.
Just to be clear I am not suggesting anything about MM’s ex husband, I don’t know a thing about him or her, I am just one of many outsiders looking in.
If doing it by mail was the best thing for her safety – physically, mentally or stopped the possibility of it being derailed in a face to face discussion – then all power to her.
When someone decides the relationship is done, it’s done. She ended her marriage in a way that was not open to interpretation and made it clear that reconciliation was not on the cards. She probably got legal advice before she did it. Maybe sent it registered mail and she was then able to use that date delivered as the legal separation date. Who knows?
Thank you for bringing that up Zapp…SO TRUE! The only ones who will ever know the full extent of how bad things were are those who lived through it. Some stuff can be too private to go around airing in public. It must be hell to be in the spotlight and have the jerks of the past try to come back and bite. Usually the abuser in the relationship is amazing at managing the PR. My ex was seen as the second coming of jesus and i was the cold hearted harlot that did him wrong. Until someone looked up his public record and he couldn’t pretend no more. You do have to get a thick skin and ignore, put yourself first if you choose the high road. Eventually the crazies are found out or they just get caught without the mask one day 😉
Oh, for pete’s sake, now Meghan’s fans are painting her ex as an abuser with ZERO evidence. That is dangerous territory, and takes mental gymnastics to come up with that rather than she is a bit of a jerk.
This is bothersome, that you are making up abuse now to defend her.
No difference than folks who paint her as a scheming, cruel bitch who walked away from a devoted husband for no reason.
Honestly we don’t know what happened in their marriage so either assumption is just that as no one knows what went on behind those closed doors.
It’s disturbing. The man has been pilloried without any evidence and we don’t even know if he participated in this book.
@ Veronica
Please try to take a deep breath.
This is a gossip website, we are all speculating.
You have no idea who Meghan truly is, just the same as the rest of us and that applies to her ex too.
You don’t often hear someone mailing their ring back, sounds like something bad happened.
Only the two people in a relationship know what was going on behind closed doors.
The rest is speculation and hearsay.
I agree with you Veronica.
I mentioned above, my friend left everything to her husband due to guilt, not abuse. He’s a really nice guy that never did it for her so she cheated for years until she finally left him. And ghosting a person is often a result of an inability to deal with confrontation and not necessarily abuse. It’s horrible to paint people as victims if they aren’t. I doubt she would want that.
@Veronica, you have no idea what transpired in this marriage so you calling out others for branding Trevor an abuser with no evidence while you turn around and brand Meghan a jerk without any evidence is rich. No one knows exactly what happened excpet Meghan and Trevor, so everything else is speculation. And like you, everyone else is entitled to an opinion and voicing it without having fear of you jumping on them because you don’t like to hear anything positive about Meghan.
@Lua, the same argument can be made in the other direction. Your friend is not Meghan so her cheating on her boyfriend and ending it between them doesn’t mean the same exact happened with Meghan. It could well be what others are saying upthread that Trevor is not telling the whole story, we don’t know.
@Veronica, the ex has gone from just being an ex to a snitch to a cheat to an abuser and heaven knows what else. And yet Meghan remains on a pedestal.
I am going to explain one more time, then I am done with this thread. Gossip is fine. We come here for that. But making the claim, over and over, that Meghan’s ex abused her with NO evidence at all goes well beyond gossip. Saying Meghan may be a jerk because of many actions we have seen with our own objective eyes is gossip. That is fair. Accusing someone of abuse because Meghan might have been a jerk or because she doesn’t like confrontation, or because they were both just over it, is way beyond the pale and, honestly, disgraceful. She never claimed that, so no one else should.
Hope you understand what I am saying now.
And @Maria, I can’t even imagine what other sins will be made up to justify MM’s actions in the future. Scary to see this in action.
I think you’re overreacting a bit, Veronica. It is very clear to me that everyone is speculating on why someone would mail everything back rather than see the person.
If she was in Toronto and he was in LA, that could explain it. It could be as simple as that. Or there could be more to it. I don’t know, they don’t know, and neither do you.
@Veronica, but it’s no different than you claiming over and over countless times about how Meghan is a cold hearted jerk and that’s why herex, and ex-friend and half siblings are talking. You mentioned upthread that Meghan only reason why she dumped Trevor by mail is because she is a jerk, that that’s why she has no known cousins that will attend the wedding, and that you are giving her just a few months to show her true colors etc. You have no facts whatsoever but that doesn’t stop you from making whatever factless claims about Meghan that you are accusing others of doing!!! It’s like you saying that you can defend Trevor and mad sling Meghan but God forbid others defend her, that’s absurd. Practice what you preach. No one has the facts so we all don’t know what happened.
@Veronica
This is not New York Times, we like to gossip about celebrities here.
It’s harmless fun, her ex is not getting arrested.
We are no judge and jury.
Nobody knows what happened between them, only they do.
Try to lighten up.
Why take this so seriously?????????????????????????????????????
You are saying Meghan acted like a jerk and someone else says her ex did.
This is all just speculation.
Sounds like a bottom-feeder orgy. Yuck.
The royals have had so much written about them, there is no way they are even breaking a sweat over this. I mean, at the moment, Charles has a book about his own issues coming out, then you have the Pippa’s father-in-law mess…they have bigger fish to fry.
I think it’s funny that her ex is quite the same physical type as Harry. He looks like he could be his brother (more than William)!
Yes I’ve noticed that too. And I think MM was escaping abuse in her first marriage….the first thing she asked about meeting the blind date set up with Harry, “is he nice”?
Yeeeah…
When I left my manipulative, abusive, cheating first husband (a total piece of work that everyone outside of our relationship thought was amazing) I took some clothes.
Oh! And some books.
Generally a woman doesn’t just drop someone like a bad habit “out of the blue.”
Yes!
This.
Jennifer Garner’s exes say nothing but nice things about her. Even though she is messy, and she excuses her ex Affleck and his alcoholism.
Meghan Markle’s ex, on the other hand, is trying to make money off of his ex-wife’s current marriage with a new tv show.
Can you imagine if Scott Foley or Michael Vartan tried to do what Trevor Engelson is doing? Like if Scott Foley produced a show “normal looking guy gets left by his lovely wife Jen Garner for Ben Affleck” ?
We would all think that Scott Foley is tacky as hell, and possibly messed up for inability to let his ex live her life.
Engelson’s trying to cash in on Markle’s higher level of fame has me side eyeing him.
Exactly. It is the whole picture of HIS actions that are out there about this marriage. He is the one hung up on it discussing it and trying to capitalize on it. Including adding a pretend child into the story. That is creepy af.
Morton did a cut and paste job on this section of the bio, using stories that have been already reported. He talked to Nikkai but not to Trevor. If a woman sends the ring back that generally means the guy messed up. Morton also put in his book that while Meghan’s career was growing from Suits, Trevor’s career as a producer was floundering. Male ego may have kicked and the long distance could have led to Trevor seeking comfort in another’s bed . (Nikkai?). Meghan may have found out and hit Trevor with divorce papers. The divorce was uncontested, Meghan didn’t ask for spousal support, and it was final in October 2013. The quick divorce suggests Meghan had enough to ruin him in Hollywood. This excerpt is a one day story, the press has moved on to the Markles, especially Dad.
Trevor’s TV show about a guy’s ex wife marrying into British royalty now has revenge porn stench to it, since Morton claims Trevor is still bitter about the divorce.
Yes that TV show has bitter Betty all over it, designed to embarrass her while making money. He’s keeping quiet for a reason, he goes after her negatively in the press, the tabs will dish the dirt on him and am sure there is some.
Good point. That may be the ex-best friend is doing Trevor’s dirty work for him.
The fact that Trevor has proposed a television show about this subject doesn’t speak well for him, in my opinion.
Classless.
Adults learn that you cannot control how others behave towards you, but only how you respond to it.
Children throw temper tantrums and get even.
Yes! This!
Why should Meghan or anyone be worried by what her ex-husband and ex-friend have to say? The same people who are selling her out? It’s a very one-sided book. That is clear.
What is wrong with sending the rings back? That sounds like someone wanting a clean break. Something may have went down, and Meghan was smart not to tell that ex friend
I’ve seen quotes from this book and haven’t seen anything scandalous or even new besides the ring and blender info . It shows me that Meghan isn’t this gold digger that some want to paint her as, if all she wanted was the blender.
Exactly! Its not as if she threw the rings into the fires of Mount Doom after spending a year on the road with Frodo and Sam.
She returned the rings through the ever reliable US Postal service. Sounds like a true patriot to me 😉
Hahaha I loved the first sentence. I think most of us has had a Sauron in their life at some point.
This! What was she supposed to do? A two year long distance marriage ended. Should she have kept the rings? Planned to do it in person and have some sort of drama (which could range from just standard tears and recrimination to some sort of abuse, we don’t know)? Or should she make sure the rings were returned safely and take her vitamix and bounce? Always. Take. The. Vitamix.
I read it as he wasn’t aware they were breaking up until he got the rings and a letter in the mail. If true, that does kind of make her a jerk. He’s a jerk for proposing his upcoming show about the ex that marries royalty. Not hard to think two self-centered jerky people attracted each other in the first place.
I actually like her, and am excited for the wedding. But let’s not act like a pretty, somewhat talented actress isn’t capable of being a jerk at times. Neither of them are kicking homeless kittens in the street, so both of their transgressions thus far are pretty “meh” to me.
@BrandyAlexander I think the missing Vitamix should’ve been a clue.
“I read it as he wasn’t aware they were breaking up until he got the rings and a letter in the mail. If true, that does kind of make her a jerk.”
No one, I mean, no one is unaware of a break up (marriage or dating) looming over their head(s). If he was so clueless and not tuned in and listening, that there may have been a contibuting reason for the divorce.
So work kept them apart, they got married probably in an effort to hang onto the relationship, it didn’t work out, they split.
Breaking up via letter seems a little cold, but she may have had her reasons for doing so- we don’t know.
I hope that’s not true. Anyone that ends a relationship by sending a letter is cold as ice and empty hearted.
if she did do it that way, I think there was a reason. I would agree with you if she took his money, kept his gifts, and left him with a letter. She gave back everything and supposedly gave a letter. The fact that she did this hands off tells me she didn’t a confrontation with him and that could be any reason. Most that have nothing to do with her being cold hearted.
Or they have reason to fear ending it in person.
Merritt exactly, the most dangerous time for a person in an abusive relationship is when they are leaving that relationship.
So now her ex is an abuser? It is startling the stories people come up with rather than just admit Meghan may be a bit of a jerk.
@Veronica
I did not call him an abuser. I listed one of the reasons why a person would break up with a person via mail versus in person. But her ex’s decision to create a television show based on a ex-wife who marries a royal, is creepy. It honestly reminds me of Sofia Vergara’s ex-boyfriend.
Veronica, you’re just cut and pasting your same reply up and down the thread. We read it elsewhere, we know your opinion, and you’re not changing anyone’s mind. What’s the point of spamming the thread with the same reply over and over again?
@Amy Too, it’s because I am responding to others when they are claiming her ex abused her. I am actually pretty stunned at the audacity of these claims, all to defend Meghan as the kind waif with the huge heart. It is pretty disgusting.
@Merritt
YES! Just like SV’s creepy ex. It is obsessive and strange. No getting around that.
@Veronica
Your hypocrisy is outstanding.
Well, Beth, none of us know the reason for their divorce and I agree with others–maybe this was the safest or least confrontational way to handle him.
If she was out of town working and couldn’t come back for awhile, I think its better to do that than let him think she still wanted to be with him. Sometimes when you’re done, you’re done. And if she’s out of town she obviously can’t do it in person.
Or there are reasons you are not privy to and a blanket statement is useless.
Yeah, no. Not necessarily. There are usually reasons behind behaviors.
I think so too. You are the professional, so I am sure you would know more than anyone else on this thread.
I had a boyfriend of 2 years when I was in my early 20’s who would not hear me when I told him it was over. He showed up at my parents for Christmas, he showed up at my sister’s hockey games, and so on. He may have ‘not heard her’, and this was the only way she could actually end it, with a very clear message.
That is cold if true. It makes me like her even more tbh.
Same…she sure doesn’t play around. Lol.
If harry annoys her she will take her blender and leave. Put the ring in mail and be gone! The BRF will appreciate that as she will not continue too leech around like Sarah.
same. i like logical women who react pragmatically and tend towards coldness.
I gave my ring to a friend to deliver back to my ex. We were living in different cities by then, I had left him and I couldn’t stomach one more face to face “you’ve ruined my life/let’s try again” conversation. He wasn’t mean or cruel, we had just grown apart. It happens. Sometimes that’s just all there is to it.
This^. And is there no possibility they’d already talked about separating, and this was how wound up returning the ring? If they were already living separate lives for the show, because they were breaking up or a combination of the two, why would she fly back just to return the ring? As pointed out by commenters already, we won’t ever know the real story, but I don’t get why this OR the Vitamix is a big deal. It was beyond ridiculous to read the DM comments about her derailing the monarchy over the Vitamix detail. LOL I would want the VitaMix in her situation too, because those are amazing.
Public Service Announcement: refurbished vitamixes are available on the vitamix web site – cheaper but same warranty. And they will bill your card in five installments, no interest. Plus their refund policy after a trial period is for real.
Plus just google for vitamix plus free shipping and you’ll find lots of sites that give you a code to use to get free shipping (often foodie sites, recipe/smoothie blogs etc.).
I’ve had two refurbished vitamixes and they’re still alive. My first was purchased maybe in the late 80s. I wanted to get a much newer one without a spigot and with a clear container and maybe a more powerful motor, but my old one just refused to die so I finally just went ahead and bought a small “personal” model a few years ago, on the installment plan.
I wanted something that would pulverize seeds so I could make smooth raspberry-containing juices with all the nutrition of the seeds, so I looked at reviews mentioning that before buying the second vitamix. The Blendtec has good reviews and can do that also. There is also one of the Ninja blenders (a bigger model, not the little one) that had just come out at the time and was getting good reviews for such things. There may be others now.
There’s this whole idea of the “right” way to break up around here sometimes. It doesn’t always take into account real life. Sometimes you just can’t take another confrontation. Sometimes you don’t feel safe. Sometimes they’ve done something to break the trust that you never want to see them again. But the reality is, in a relationship without kids, the other person isn’t ‘owed’ anything.
If all she wanted was her blender then something big happened. I suspect it was cheating, either emotional or physical, with her so called best friend. Explains why they both got cut off. Now that they’re talking so much (and he’s creating that bizarre show), it’s clear she made the right choice.
They had separate households from the sound of things, so she probably didn’t need anything. Doesn’t necessarily mean anything big happened.
Thank you.
I mean, common. One side hates for no reason but the other is making up stories about abuse and making St Markle.
Maybe, just maybe, things ended and it was easier to put feelings on paper. And that blender thing is funny.
There’s a big possibility they just grew apart and that was it. They moved on.
This escalated fast. Now he is abusive and something big happened and she was afraid of him. Really where does this come from. More like she saw a chance to social climb in Toronto and grew tired of him.
@Linda. If you don’t want speculation about Trevor, why speculate about Meghan?
The guy wants to do a project related to his ex-wife marrying into royalty. That’s sketchy and speaks to his character.
Agree, Natalie S. It seems like the need to tear down Meghan is worth more to some people than using their ability to reason.
They can’t reason Olenna and Natalie.
Anyone with life experience knows what we have seen from him isn’t a picture of a nice man. The narrative the detractors push has absolutely no basis in facts. None.
Lol, people are calling out Morton for suspicious sourcing and gossip, but speculating that Trevor cheated on her with zero evidence. Sure, ok.
The speculation comes from the creepy obsession Meghan’s former friend Ninaki Priddy had with him.
Not only cheated, but that he is abusive and she’s in fear. Megan can do no wrong, it’s everyone else’s fault.
Not that she can do no wrong , but I have yet to come across a woman who leaves a happy marriage . Just saying.
ScottieIsBack, you took the words out of my mouth. Relationships are complex.
How do we know Trevor was doing the alleged cheating? If we are speculating, perhaps it was Meghan who found herself with someone in Toronto? Perhaps there was no cheating. Part of the narrative missing here was that Meghan, in the early days of their relationship, was hopeful that Trevor would open doors for her career. For whatever reason, that didn’t pan out though didn’t he help connect her to Suits casting? Once the show was on a secure footing, she didn’t need him. Maybe it’s as simple as that? Maybe the Vitamix was all she valued from their time together.
Meghan’s an ambitious woman who was prepared to work all the angles to get herself further ahead. The blog was another revenue source, as was the clothing line. Just maximising opportunities. Nothing wrong with that. Meghan has clearly cultivated well-connected people to manoeuvre her brand to where she wanted it to be: the hot influencer, the ‘gonna be’ persona so desired by the SoHo philosophy. The list of ‘besties’ seem to come from similar go-getters but these are new, only developed in the last two years. I can only see Lindsay Roth and her LA yoga teacher as longer-term pals. We all know people who have dropped friends of long standing, simply ‘moved on’ when they become successful. They prefer to be associated with whom they consider fellow movers and shakers. The old friends and family may well be ‘bitter bettys’ but could they equally be hurt, disappointed, confused? It’s all very well to cultivate a career and people to prop it up, but will those people be there if it all goes bust? It’s important to know who you can really trust, who loves you regardless of the trappings of success.
@Addie No he didn’t help her get suits
“Jeff Wachtel ,The current chief content officer of NBCUniversal Cable Entertainment and president of Suits producer Universal Cable Productions helped give Meghan Markle — now engaged to Prince Harry — her first big break on the USA Network drama. The executive cast Markle over another actress in her first series-regular role back in 2011 when he was co-president of USA Network”
I do agree with some of your other point but we really don’t know most of her friends.I know she’s known Marcus for more than 2 years cause he was on her insta since 2012 and some other woman I can’t remember
And I’ve seen pics of ninaki chick with Meghan,hanging with the suits cast and according to reports,meghan used to fly back to catch up.ll say Meghan did make an effort to maintain friendship
Her agent called her about the part in Suits, per Morton.
Btw, it’s worth noting that by the time Suits got confirmed the tables had turned. His business was treading water according to Morton, while hers was taking off. She was making more money, she was now the budding TV star. Perhaps he couldn’t deal with her success after 10 years of her being his sidekick.
Thanks to you both, @Sam and also @ScottieIsBack, for clarifying the casting issue for Suits. I wasn’t quite sure.
@Sam – if Meghan is flying back to LA she was no doubt with her mother and catching up with friends, that seems normal.
@ScottieIsBack – never discount the green-eyed monster, especially if Trevor had been the more experienced Hollywood player for 10+ years, only to find his wife moving past him. Some couples can handle the inevitable ebb and flow of individual careers, especially in entertainment, and for others it breaks them.
Is it really so inconceivable that someone who wants a foot in the door of one of the most cutthroat industries would be ambitious and accordingly do [almost] whatever it takes to get ahead, to include ditching perceived deadweight? The truth is always somewhere down the middle: MM isn’t a malicious person who’s been calculating some ridiculous ascent to the British throne since she was a teenager, but it also seems a touch naïve to regard her as some doe-eyed altruist who’s above socially wheeling and dealing to advance herself.
This +1,000,000!
Well said!
This, this, and some more of this!
Thank you for saying this! The truth is almost always somewhere in the middle.
Morton, is a hack.
Diana was trying to hurt the Royal family, but ended up hurting her sons.
Why is Priddy so hung up on Meghan’s former husband? Why not go ahead and make a play for him, or she did and he was not interested.
You would think Meghan divorced her, if someone don’t want to be friends with you any more, move on with your life.
Morton is not writing too many best sellers these days. If the the half-siblings gave him info for free, it’s tough cheese for their books, that will land in the dollar bins.
To walk away from a marriage taking only a blender, I though she was shakedown, money grabber.
Morton is claiming Diana is responsible for Meghan getting a college education, now Diana did not go to college, so I don’t know how she could be.
Here is news for him, it’s called having a black mother who will sit on your rear end about education.
It sounds as an outsider, like Meghan started to get somewhere with her career and suddenly felt that she was bigger and better than those who she left behind, like her husband and childhood friend. I think it’s an easy mistake to make for a lot of people who suddenly make it in the entertainment industry but it often seems to come back to bite them. I can also understand her ex and childhood friend selling their stories, even though I don’t agree with it. It must be really hurtful to see your friend doing well and then turn their back.
But it sounds like that because Meghan hasn’t said anything. Everything is coming from one side.
When one side is loudly talking to everyone and also doing tacky things, I think there’s someone who’s trying to set a narrative and get focus off of themselves.
@ Jussaying “I can also understand her ex and childhood friend selling their stories”
??? really.
Maybe this explains why they were cut off. Nothing wrong with cutting out toxic people from your life who would be willing to sell you out.
Yes, it really sounds like she got a taste of fame and was like, “see ya” to her old friends and family. Now that she has a taste of royalty, who has she dropped? I will be interested to see if anyone from her Toronto life (besides the Mulroneys and the Trudeaus of course) are invited to the wedding.
She is still close friends with some of her old LA pals (just not her ex’s friends ). She has said her college friend of 15 years is her best friend and her niece (the half sister’s estranged daughter) are all part of close network.
So nah, some of her old friends and relatives have been with her as she has grown professionally etc. Just not others.
@ Abbey Rose
The friend, from what we know, was just Nikki. Lindsay from college is still good friends with her. As for her family, that relationship was done years before she even got Suits. None of them even came to her first wedding and she hasn’t seen them in plenty of years. It looks like to me, Meghan purged toxic people from her life. I don’t fault her for that. Her niece Ashleigh , Sams daughter, is still in her life though.
Considering how quick they were to sell everything they have of her to media, I say she made the right decision. Her sibling bullying her for invites. The people most loyal to her are the ones not talking. There are many 4 or 5 who used to be close to her that are driving this one sided narrative.
@ Abbey Rose
Her Suits castmate will come (they are famous, fashionable and cool) but it will be interesting to see if any of the often lowly paid /underappreciated crew members that she spent years working with are invited (not including directors, producers in this).
@whatever, “lowly paid” crew members? LOL! You are literally pulling ‘the ridiculous’ right out of your you-know-what. Here’s a whataboutism, something you’re good at: Did Willie and Katie invite their “lowly paid” help (yeah, I’m gonna call them the help) and his AF unit (the entire unit, regardless of rank) to their extravaganza of a wedding? See how ridiculous this can get? But, enough with that. When you get the real scoop on who Meghan invited AND who showed to the wedding, please report back to CB cuz inquiring minds want to know.
Honestly, I don’t see any of her Suits castmates getting invites to the wedding. On second thought, maybe Sarah Rafferty and her financier husband – but I’m guessing the rest are long shots at best.
Anyone who sells their story was likely a jerk long before. So this has nothing with Meghan no longer being part of their lives. It has to do with those people being users and opportunists. Who wants to keep people like that around in their life? Yet you seem to be slamming Meghan for dropping terrible people.
@whatever says:
‘If Meghan invite her lowly paid/under appreciated crew members,’who is going to pay for their flights and hotels?
I’m sure at the end of each season of Suits, the cast gave the the crew gifts.
Now don’t tell me you expect Meghan to pay for them, by the way she is not responsible for their wages.
Find fault with her for realistic things, not things pulled out of the air.
@ Merritt Exactly before a big betrayal like this there are millions of little betrayals. People can only ever tell you about themselves and Priddy has made it clear who she is.
That is nonsense. Anyone who would go to the press to make money from a friendship from childhood or an ex wife is trash. Pure garbage. The fact she divorced him wanting nothing but freedom means he’s not telling the whole story. But since they want to talk so much, I am sure the worm will turn, and the truth about them will be revealed too. That is how it goes.
I don’t believe for one second there isn’t another story in there somewhere.
This actually makes sense.
It doesn’t fit with the image of Meghan being a wonderful person, but it does make sense.
Lol. So you are saying that an actress in her 30s, got a supporting role in a cable legal drama, moved from LA to the bright shinny lights of Toronto and decided she had made it into the big time? Not just an actress but one smart enough to get into North Western genuinely thought “I am a woman of a certain age who just got a part that could easily be written out and on a generic show that could be cancelled anytime. I’ll just make a few trendy friends and hope they dont replace me with a younger, hotter, more trendy actress. Time to ditch the LA peasants”. Really??
Maybe. Meghan had tried for the best part of a decade to ‘make it’ and Suits was her best gig to date and big chance. I wouldn’t underestimate it, nor Meghan’s thoughts of where it might lead. Plus she had hired Kruger Cowne to represent her; they organise all manner of engagements to enhance their clients’ profiles eg they part-owned One Young World where Meghan spoke twice (her humanitarian schtick). And she sought other revenue streams like The Tig and the clothing deal. In other words, she was working to insulate herself from the ‘aging actress syndrome’ with other activities to create broader opportunities that sprang from Suits. It makes good sense in all sorts of ways. Fame can be fleeting. Jussayin’s take (20) seems pretty reasonable. It’s not a flattering portrait, but fame and wealth can be really seductive. It’s easy to get caught up in your own publicity whirlwind, as well as having some decent money for the first time. And therefore easy to to forget to nurture old relationships in lieu of the shiny new ones.
It’s noteworthy that one of her friends said on mutiple occasions that she felt empowered once she left the marriage because she had taken her power back. What does that mean? Only she and her closest friends know…. But it’s interesting that her blog focussed a lot on self empowerment and self esteem.
She also started almost all her business ideas within a year of her divorce – her blog, designing her clothing line, ramping up her endorsements etc, expanding into other areas. So yes, along with her humanitarian work, I would say she had a long term plan for herself.
They are married to this idea she is some scheming villain. Based on nothing. Most of the people they have interviewed who are her real friends haven’t said anything bad about her. And yes her getting her power back is what women say when they have left a toxic relationship. Period.
No one is claiming she is perfect. Only the detractors think liking Meghan means OTT worship. Hardly. She hasn’t done anything to warrant dislike. Just made up nonsense from no facts or sources.
Even actors that knew her way back when say nice things about her.
I’d certainly describe Meghan as resilient. She’s got that quality in spades. Sounds like an imbalance of power in the relationship and as her star waxed as his star waned. Also the age difference would not have helped. Some people can’t handle others changing or growing.
She moved to Toronto and found herself amidst a new well-to-do circle of friends and acquaintances. A lot of things changed when she moved to Toronto. From old pictures, her style changed drastically. She went from California casual to NY wealthy. She was making good money for the first time, experiencing new things, mingling with a new set of people, gaining fame, etc. All of this opened up new doors for her and I’m not mad that she took those opportunities and made the most out of them. She’s a savvy networker who befriends the right people in the right places. She had a plan to better herself and it worked.
I left my ex with literally the clothes on my back – and nothing else. I left a letter and the ring on the coffee table. My ex was controlling, abusive and cheated on me too many times to count and i just wanted to be done with him. Period. I don’t know her circumstances, but for someone as “money and power hungry” as they make her out to be, she sure left this well to-do guy with very little taken for herself. I have to imagine taking the blender meant something to both her and him. Something we don’t know, maybe a stab to him from her. Either way, I’m not going to judge her for leaving the way she did. I don’t know what she went through but it was enough to cut and run and leave everything behind.
Meghan just cut and ran from her life in Toronto, even leaving one of her beloved dogs behind.
Who was the big scary abuser in Toronto?
The dog was too old for plane travel. She didn’t leave him on the street. He lives with a friend of hers. And given the paparazzi attention she was getting and the tabloids publishing her old address, the dog very well may have moved in with her friend, long before Meghan left Toronto, in order to preserve the dog’s well being. The reality is you don’t know what happened and to call a person who found a good home for a pet an abuser is inappropriate.
Meghan didn’t cut and run from Toronto. We watched her tie up all her commitments and leave. Literally getting a play by play from the press. That is hardly the same as what ‘allegedly” happened with Trevor.
It is funny how you dismiss this claim (and it could be untrue) so easily. Though many women experience this every day where people don’t take their claims seriously because there is no way that could happen to them. Honestly your dislike of her is just as cloudy as the “sugars” need defend her. No one knows what happened or the reasons. And even if it were true you likely would find a way to say she deserved it. That is how you come across.
Merritt- the dog was maybe 5 or 6 years old. He wasn’t exactly ancient. But I agree otherwise – it might have been with a friend before that, or it could be a very high strung dog with anxiety issues.
The dog issue was so poorly handled by whoever was responsible. So much cleaner to cut to the truth and say Bogart stayed with her ex-partner since they had developed a strong bond, or whatever the truth was. Everyone knew Meghan had been in a relationship with Cory. It’s coy to pretend she didn’t – and I’m guessing it was the Palace who didn’t want to go there. So silly to pretend ‘royals’ and their adjacents are somehow pure and special. Nah. They rut like everyone else, if not more so.
People will always worry about those two dogs’ welfare. KP saw fit to inform the public about him breaking two legs. We would not have known otherwise, so why not let people know that’s he’s slowly recovering? If the dog was not going to survive the accident, why tell anyone in the first place?
The Chef?
Re: the dog. The chef was said to have moved to Vancouver last summer so it’s unlikely that he took him since it is a five hour flight from Toronto. I’m guessing he’s with the Mulroneys. Maybe Brian takes him for his walkies, ugh!
Veronica, you don’t know Meghan enough to know any facts surrounding her dogs. No one except Meghan and whomever kept the dog know what really went down. Being that you are not one of Meghan’s close knit circle, you really don’t know nothing about Meghan and her dogs. Unless you are from Toronto (which I doubt very much since you already said you are from the US) you do not have no clue as to why Bogart stayed in Toronto. You have no clue why Guy was taken to London with Meghan. You don’t really know if Guy broke any legs or if he has any injuries. You. Just. Don’t.know.
Nobody has any facts surrounding the dogs and I’m really not getting why commenters on blogs feel they’re owed any explanation regarding Meghan’s dogs. People move all the time and leave family and friends and pets behind. No one takes them.to task demanding they explain every single detail regarding decisions they made about this and that. Meghan owes nobody no explanations about her dogs.
Meghan didn’t get any unwanted paparazzi attention. Those were all planned pap strolls. You are naive if you think otherwise. Harry made sure there was privacy, even when they went public with their relationship. I remember the one before Pippa’s wedding last year. I’m not sure why they felt she needed to be papped just a day before the wedding ceremony.
Don’t see evidence that KP made any statement about Guy breaking his legs – the People article said specifically that “Kensington Palace declined to comment” on the report. So the info was from elsewhere.
Given that her connections become the object of scrutiny, it makes sense Meghan would be vague about where Bogart is in Toronto.
Reasonable people in comments here assumed she made responsible arrangements in the interests of the animals, and there’s no reason to believe that wasn’t true. She was gone a lot of the time visiting Harry; someone was caring for the dogs. I doubt it was a busy chef ex-boyfriend; I wouldn’t be thrilled for my ex to drop the dogs off every other week so she could conduct her social life with another guy. So, a possibility is Bogart was used to, and happier, staying in Toronto with whoever was taking care of him. Happened to my sister, with a neighbor’s dog.
Note the December article in the Telegraph that talked about Guy also said “Bogart…has been left behind with friends in Toronto after he was considered unfit to fly…” If true, sounds like a possible medical issue.
Don’t consider it my business, though it would be interesting to know if the information about Guy’s injuries was true, and what the outcome was. But until I see a reason to question both dogs’ welfare other than that people don’t like Meghan, I’ll continue to assume they’ve been properly cared for.
I hope both dogs are adapting well. I think the topic aroused people’s interest because Meghan has always made quite a thing about her dogs so they came to care for their welfare. I think it’s as simple as that. Of course it’s no-one’s business but UK people are really into dogs so it was natural for the subject to come up and fester if not addressed properly. Cultural differences can’t be under-estimated. In most countries you make friends through your children. In England you make friends through your dogs.
@Addie, the argument about British people caring so much about Meghan’s dogs doesn’t make sense to me at all. She shared what she wanted to share with her fans on the Tig, IG, FB etc regarding her dogs; we that were following her long before Harry were grateful for whatever she shared and never asked for more than what she wanted to share. So because she is dating or engaged to Prince Harry now suddenly she has to explain every decision she makes for her dogs to some strangers just because they love dogs? Can’t she be a dog parent, just like everyone else, but retain that right to her privacy? I mean, HM has dogs, William and Kate have Lupo, and I’m sure many other royals do have theirs, but how many times do they give the British dog loving folks the day to day run down of their dogs’ lives? This obsession with Meghan’s dogs is very absurd!
Morton is a bottom feeder. This won’t do Meaghan any real harm because anyone who dislikes her because of it wanted to dislike her anyway.
Meghan has acquired a reputation of being someone that uses people then dumps them when she no longer needs them. Who knows how much of it is actually true? But Meghan and her then PR /management teams really dropped the ball in shutting this unwanted personality trait down when they had the chance. This is something that she has to live with now and it’s not an enviable trait to have.
How did she use her ex-husband?
She was able to meet important people working in the industry through his connections. He also gave her a part in a movie he produced (Remember Me).
Oh a small part in a movie that was widely panned. Not exactly using him.
The fact that it was a small role doesn’t actually matter. He gave her a job and an income when she most probably would have been unemployed. A credit on that movie could have helped her in ways we can’t compute to get future role. This is the reason why recruitment experts say you shouldn’t have gaps in your CV.
@Whatever
Another thing you are claiming without evidence. Especially since all one has to do is look at her filmography and know that you are just grasping at straws.
@whatever, what is your point about her personality and acting career that you haven’t tried to make already? Or, are you just trying to get someone to agree with you that Meghan is unsuitable to marry (ooooh, wait for it) a Prince of the United Kingdom? Regardless, Meghan and Harry are officially engaged; their wedding is planned, and if the marriage doesn’t work out, well, so be it. Until then, why get yourself worked up over her and how much you disapprove of someone else’s intimate relationship? As the young folks say, “get your life” and let others get theirs.
She also had the opportunity to meet these people through her father. Just because he gave her a small part in a movie, she is beholden to him for life? He also turned around and tried to sell her out through his ‘new’ TV show. He’s a real hero, isn’t he?
You have been making this same claim for months and never back it up with evidence.
@Merrit – what you said.
I was surprised to know that it took him all of 6 years after they started dating to give her a part in one of his movies. In the meantime she was earning a living on Deal or no Deal and scrounging around at product promotional fairs. So not exactly working the connections as some people would sugsest.
FWIW, Morton confirmed that it was her agent who got her the part in Suits , not her ex husband.
If you actually read my first post properly you will see that i’m not making any claims up I’m just saying that she seems to have acquired an unwanted rep based on the comments and thoughts that I’ve read about her across the internet (not just DM btw). That’s not false.
@Whatever
Comments and thoughts on the internet. LOL ok. So basically you read anti-Meghan tumblr blogs.
@whatever
Yes, you are making claims. You do it about Meghan with no proof or facts. Or examples.
There have been more examples about Kate and the Middletons and loads of facts, but you never agree with those. Years and years of them.
She earned her lucrative role in Suits, and it has nothing to do with him. Giving someone a real start in the entertainment industry would be getting a meaty role in a big budget film. Not a small role in a film no one saw or liked.
He isn’t nearly powerful enough to give her anything. If he is claiming that then it sounds more like an abusive man who can’t let go.
That she got away on her own terms seems to be something that he resents, and it is strange. He is still so hellbent on revenge says more about him than it does about her. It points to a person with controlling behavior. Nice men don’t act like that, and they would want their ex to be happy. Good people don’t behave like her friend either.
You can’t gain a reputation by people who don’t know her. None of her close friends or relatives have said anything. Only strangers in comment sections with agendas including racists.
@magnoliarose
Wow, you’ve really got the wrong end of the stick there. Completly and utterly the wrong end of the stick LOL. All I’m saying is she has acquired an unwanted rep of being someone that tosses people aside as she moves up in the world (just look at comments on Instagram, Twitter and articles around the web about Meghan and even on this site) the comments are there. Now, her team should have done something about this before it got legs and spread.
I’m not in a position to marry someone high profile but if I gained this rep I would have shut it down asap before it gained traction. Just common sense really.
@ Merritt, @magnoliarose
She was in a movie he produced. As a producer, he would have been one of the people who would have had huge say, possibly a final say, on who was being cast. Just face it he did help her, maybe he didn’t get her blockbuster role but he gave her a job on a successful movie (made $50+ million at box office on $16 million budget) and something to put on her resume, which is still like Goldust when you are a struggling actress.
@whatever
LOL. Repeating a debunked claim, doesn’t make it more true than the last time you said it.
tumblr and the DM leaking again?
As someone above said, it took 6 years for him to offer her that part.
Also, who has decided she has a rep as someone who tosses unwanted people aside? Where are you getting this ‘she uses and tosses aside people’ idea from? A pissed off ex and a backstabbing ex-bestie?
Meghan getting Suits had nothing to do with Trevor which probably explains why that marriage started to crumble the moment she started to have her own success.
@whatever if you repeat a lie long enough. LOL
So Meghan ditches people from her life that have since sold her out to the media and she is a horrible user, but Kate drops all friends that were actually William’s once married but that’s ok because she is a British girl or something. Gotcha.
He gave her a 10s part in Remember me as a bar maid..wow amazing connections there from ‘bigshot’ producer Trevor *eyeroll*
What reputation? You mean TO YOU Meghan uses people because I’ve never heard of her having any reputation.
Shes such a user yet still has friends (non famous) that she’s known for the past decade,those that still live in L.A. and NY.She moved to a new city,of course she would make new friends.
The fact that this book is trying to portray her as having this reputation and we are talking about it on here, people are talking about it on other sites as well (not just British) and this has been talked about for months now proves that it is spreading. Now my original post did say “Who knows how much of it is actually true?” which you have conveniently overlooked. This is not a criticism of Meghan just pointing out there are some people who do believe it, even if you don’t.
Not to belabour the point, but it seems you are the one who is talking about her so-called reputation for using people. The rest of us are just trying to make sense of the facts we have in front of us. Comments and specualtion from anonynous people on insta and forums which are almost word for word from DM comment boards wont’t cut it with me personally.
Right now all I have to work with is the information her ex-friend and half siblings sold to the media. Their motivation is suspect imho because their views depends on how much tabloids are wiling to pay so they are not credible, imho.
On the other hand everyone else – childhood schoolmates, friends, collegues, former bosses etc – seem to have a relatively normal perspective on her.
Only Meghan uses people. Never Kate. Don’t you see the trend? Meghan is the z list starlet who got married to another guy as part of her multi year plan to snag Harry but Kate only accidentally ended up changing universities and being in the same program because she was unaware of all media.
@Whatever,
You are wasting your breath. Don’t even bother defending yourself. Merritt and Magnolia Rose can claim that her ex was abusive with NO facts, but you commenting that this view of Meghan has spread (and tumblr is ALWAYS mentioned to downplay it) is mocked and said to be false or #fakenews even though almost every publication has comments talking about MM dropping people when no longer convenient.
Don’t even bother. Time will tell.
Veronica, you seem really invested in this, maybe overly so? I wrote above, if Scott Foley or Michael Vartan produced a tv show based on imaginary child custody issues after Jen Garner left them for big hollywood star Ben Affleck, wouldn’t that be weird and creepy af? Inability to let things go, at the very least.
I don’t know why I can’t assume Engelson, at the very least, is a creepy dude, based on his attempts to capitalize on Meghan’s royal fame with his new tv show. I never said she is perfect or he is an abuser, but his one action I know of does not show good character to me.
LOL
Eh, it might be cold, but I highly doubt he was blindsided. They were living apart, I’m guessing the relationship wasn’t in a great place. Also I’d totally go back for a Vitamixer!
I don’t believe for one moment this divorce/separation took Trevor by surprise. He may have thought they would eventually work things out, but Meghan was done. And that’s alright. She did what was best for her. The fact Priddy won’t move tf on and live her own life says more about her level of obsession with Trevor than anything about Meghan.
“Bye, babe! Off to yoga… just going to grab the vitamix on my way out… nothing to see here!”
Love it.
Ha!
For real. That was my reaction. Out like a boss.
I bet it was a vitamix! I would take it too.
Love it lol!! I would have done the same.
Incase the missing vitamix wasn’t a big enough clue, here are the rings sent by post. Wishing you all the best in life.
lol.
The axe people have to grind seems to be HUGE, which in my life experience says way more about them than it ever will about her. Very transparent, and even more predictable.
Maybe she’d tried to tell him numerous times that she was unhappy, and he just wouldn’t discuss it. Some people are very difficult to communicate with and will not listen or won’t engage. It can be incredibly frustrating. Mailing the ring with a letter ensures that you get your message across.
So what.
If I could have sent a letter to my ex and mailed the ring back and just taken an appliance, I would have too. 🙂
(bread machine )
With this Royal wedding approaching, going to see all kinds of bottom feeders selling stories.
Haha
The blender part cracks me up.
🙂
Yeah me too.
It is like she couldn’t help herself, she had to get the blender.
Right?
It’s not easy to find a good blender these days.
Maybe it was a VitaMix? Those are pretty bomb..
That’s why the “blender” description was funny–I think of that as something that cost $20 at Target. It was probably a very nice, expensive mixer, juicer, food processor, something along those lines.
Big whoop. Her first husband sounds so bitter. It’s been years move on
I mean, it’s possible that she’s a cold-hearted bitch that dumps partners by mail. It’s also equally likely that all of the red flags were there, and Trevor just ignored them. It’s also possible she left because she felt he was legitimately dangerous.
This. We don’t know what went on in their marriage and people would be wise not to assume. The marriage has been over for 5 years and both have moved on.
She has moved on. Ex-husband hasn’t.
@ScottieIsBack He has a girlfriend. If he still dwelling on this after 5 years when the both have had more than one relationship since then than that is on him.
He created a show about an ex-wife who marries a royal. That suggests he hasn’t moved on. A person can date another person and still not have moved on.
@Ari, that’s what I thought. But then why does Morton say his questions were met with icy fury? If he is this angry five years later , I would say he hasn’t moved on emotionally.
Men have left their wives when they’ve had cancer (Newt Gringich, looking at you). Markle might have social climbed like Kate Middleton did and got her man. I’m not even mad. Get yours, boo.
THIS!
Adults got divorced. One is now marrying Royalty, the other will likely make some cash talking about it. She gets a Prince, he can afford a new blender. Everybody wins.
Yep I think shes very savvy and social climbed. I don’t beget anyone getting anything for themselves as long as you don’t damage others.
Harry needed someone like Meghan, they make a good match.
She is educated in International Relations, she’s financially independent, knows how to engage with the public and has an awareness of good PR.
Even thought royal protocol is archaic, she’ll bring her touch to it.
Royal reporters are racist through and keen to put Meghan in an unfavorable light.
@Rumi, pretty much. Prince Harry wanted a woman who was willing to take on ‘the job’ as it were. Be it the slings and arrows of the press, and the pressures of Royalty as well as the privilege. The aristos ducked out on him, and Markle is still hanging on and in there, so good for them, I guess?
Markle pretty much social climed and hustled her way into Royalty, and made sure she was ready to take advantage of it. That steel and savvy should put her in good stead for Royal duties (she seems to have a good work ethic).
‘Closure’ in relationships is largely a myth. Her ex can take his Ls like the rest of us in romantic life and STFU about it.
John Edwards
Yea…I’m not sure what’s so scandalous here. Just a breakup which 99 percent of the time would leave at least one person upset. There’s no tampon confession, toe sucking, ass flashing towards college boys, Nazi uniform wearing, racist speech, association with pedophiles…should I go on?
A friend of mine got divorced and she was so hurt that left everything behind. She Did not want anything from a person she made vows to that disappointed her so much.
These things happen. Meghan was probably ready to move on, and maybe Trevor wasn’t. Maybe he didn’t see it coming. They were together a long time and of course it would hurt.
I agree that it would hurt, when someone changes and leaves you. He loved her. It’s always sad. But that’s life.
How do you know he loved her?
It’s the same thing many people said about Brad Pitt being “stunned” when Angelina filed for divorce – if she was THAT unhappy to leave and you’re THAT surprised, you’re the one not paying attention buddy.
Or Sean Penn about Charlize Theron. If a woman who lived with you wants to avoid contact, theres a reason.
I just found out that Trevor grew up in my town. I see that he grew up in the most affluent part-where homes now sell for $2 million plus with pools and tennis courts. Assume led a very privledged life. We will never know what happened—and it is many years later and he is not remarried. He is a Hollywood producer and probably attends lots of parties. Maybe he got caught up in the scene not That Meghan got too cocky.
And if Trevor is privileged and perhaps a bit spoiled and entitled, it makes sense that he’s playing dumb about why his marriage ended and letting the ex-best friend defend him in the press.
I mean – it’s 5 years later. I don’t think him being unmarried at this point says anything about him. Not everyone bounces right back into the ring after a divorce. Sometimes people who have been divorced won’t marry again and will just have longterm relationships. I don’t think THAT is something that’s a red flag – because it’s many years and Meghan has JUST gotten engaged recently. If it’s suspicious that he isn’t, it’d have been suspicious that she hadn’t up until recently.
What’s suspect about Trevor is the TV show he’s producing about a guy who’s ex is marrying a British Royal. That plus the fact that he hasn’t remarried looks strange. Like, get over it, you know?
It’s a little weird that the ex-best friend and the ex-husband are friends.
Just a theory: I think it’s plausible that when you’re used to difficult high-maintenance personalities, you may replicate those dynamics in your friendships and relationships. If Meghan is a perfectionist who wants people to like her, then it makes sense that she stayed in unhappy relationships and then once she had the stability of Suits was finally able to cut ties with people who weren’t good for her. Doesn’t mean that her new friendships were healthy but they opened doors to new experiences.
And now Meghan’s marrying into a family of difficult high-maintenance personalities.
Yeah I agree about what you wrote about marrying Harry is more challenging given the dysfunctional family of royals. You couldn’t pay me enough money to live in that royal goldfish bowl. Media always writing about you then on top of that, there’s pressure from the royal family within etc… it’s not worth it.
Let’s not forget the dogs. She adopted both dogs from a shelter in LA. I assumed she was still with Trevor at the time, in any case she took them with her in addition to the blender.
We don’t hear much about the now separated dogs. One stayed in
Toronto the other is the UK. Maybe the Toronto one is with the Mulroneys
I did the math and Meghan was only 23 years when she started dating her ex. They were together for quite awhile (about 6 or 7 years) before they got married. Then she got her “big break” on Suits and they were doing long distance while she was in Toronto filming. That’s really hard for any new marriage to survive. She was so young when they got together and it seems like they just grew apart.
Obviously there could be more to the story, but we’ll never really know. To Meghan’s credit, she has never trashed her ex or commented on him and it doesn’t seem her ex has spoken out about her. Unless of course all the info in the book is coming from him… I doubt we’ll ever know the full story.
+1
She left her husband and informed him through a letter sent by post, with her wedding ring, and only took a blender when she vacated the house? There has to be more to this story – she didn’t want to see him, be in close quarters with him, desperate to get away from him as fast as she could.
No marriage just ends out of the blue. There are ALWAYS signs and in fact Trevor’s friends and Ninaki both admitted in the press that “they fought but didn’t think it was that bad.” How would they know the inner working of a marriage? People assume a lot but no one except those in the marriage knows. This is why people be shocked to learn domestic violence happen in “happy homes”
I am not insinuating that, mind you, but here is a woman who has been with a man for damn near 10 years and she just walks away with only the blender? It would seem to be based on things Meghan and these “friends” have said…. when Meghan got Suits the marriage got stressful. She was suddenly making more money than him and likely his ego was bruised. It also didn’t help she lived away from him most of the time and was gaining a new life. She got with Trevor young and life happens.
If Meghan wanted out, I doubt it was overnight. Trevor saw it coming even if he was in denial and if he was pushing back then the rings in the post might have been the only way to get the message through. We have seen the divorce papers online. She stated they were separated a good month before she served him divorce papers. So again… how was he blindsided?
Oh, please, I don’t believe she dumped him by mail. She just sent the rings back by mail. The decision between them was already made with probably a lot of discussion before the finality of it.
I still have my first wedding ring in my jewelery box. We have a now-grown daughter and there were some good times although I’m the one who left. Even though I’m much happier now, it represents 20 years of my life that I don’t feel like pretending didn’t exist. We are still friends and he gets along well with my current husband.
Anyway, I don’t think we need to worry about Meghan mailing her wedding ring back to Harry anytime soon. They’ll be fine.
No one knows what goes on behind closed doors.
Hang on, didn’t someone write a song….
I wonder if that blender was a Vitamix. I would have taken mine!
Exactly!
Yes, it was 🍍.
LOL I said the same up-thread before I saw your comment. Great minds! 😉
No one with common sense leaves a Vitamix. I want to be buried with mine so Hey I get it.
Can I be honest and admit I am curious why their marriage ended even as a fan of Meghan? They dated quite a few years and were hardly married. In the engagement interview H&M said they never went more than 2 weeks being apart. Could this be some indication of what went wrong in her first marriage?
Most probably the answer is there, she went to work to Canada and their whole marriage they were mostly apart.
That is a good reason why Meghan and Harry vowed to not be apart so much when their relationship was blossoming.
I don’t think he was blindsided. One can notice small details when love is fading away. It was the mature thing to do, separating, not being clingy to something that was not going to work out. We don’t know if because of their occupations they could not be together, it is unfair (to me, at least), to pin it on Meghan as if she was the one that had to quit her job instead of him in order to be together. Let it die already.
I agree, I don’t think he was blind sided either. I don’t blame it on Meghan for the distance, not sure if it came off that way. She had to go where her job took her, especially since it was her biggest role at the time. He could have a film that took him to different locations too.
I tried to answer your question in the first part of my answer, and spoke in general (media coverage) in the second part. I’m sorry if the tone seemed aggresive..
Sharon what we know is that he is still angry and wants revenge. After five years this is extremely strange and startling. Given they were married for only two years, and there are no children, and she didn’t fleece him in the divorce his attitude makes no sense.
His actions are not very honorable, and he is trying to hurt her with this odd show idea. Who does that?
So she left with nothing but a blender and didn’t want anything from him. You can’t tell me after being together that long there wasn’t stuff that she acquired with him.
Common sense says she wanted out without confrontation.
Why? We can only speculate but all I know his behavior seems to signal it was for the best.
I can see why someone would still be hurt years later – they were together for a long time, he thought he’d be with her forever. No idea what actually happened, but if the theories that she dropped him once she had access to a ‘higher status’ life were true, for example, or if she moved on to someone else before they separated – of course he would be bitter.
@magnoliarose,
This guy’s attitude makes me wonder if he was angry as well about Meghan’s relationship with the chef or did he only develop a case of the envious a$$ since she became engaged to a prince. I tend to think it’s the latter.
@A,
IMO, this dude needs to man TF up and get over that failed marriage if he really feels the way you think he does. Nothing is forever.
From the some of the comments here, one would think there are quite few people who have never been in a long-term and/or serious relationship and understand their complexities.
We still haven’t heard Meghan’s side
I don’t think we will.
I don’t think this will be an everlasting marriage either. A) she’s giving up a lot to be with him and B) she has a messy past and so does Harry. I give it 5 years.
5 years? Why not 4 or 6? Just asking for a friend.
Hahaha! I say 7 years 3 months 10 days 11 hours 6 minutes and 23 seconds. I mean let’s be precise here.
Yes, she has an off-putting pattern of upending her life for greener pastures. However, Meghan is a person who definitely sought out this royal relationship and Royal marriage, and by her standards (wealth, fame) what pasture could be greener?
@magnoliarose, Thank you v. much. This is exactly the kind of precision I am looking for 😉
@Gwynn Quinn,
She moved for work. How is that off-putting?
I think that the worse thing that will come out of it is that Meghan will look rather calculating.
Which she may well be and there is no shame in it. None.
You don’t meet a Prince by accident and you certainly don’t marry one that way either. It takes planning and work, neither of which is a problem. No one thinks she is some naive ingenue anyway.
And the first marriage may have been an impetuous decision that was ended the same way.
Don’t know if the first marriage was impetuous. They had been together for seven years when they got married. Wasn’t exactly a whirlwind romance.
I think that the worse thing that will come out of it is that Meghan will look rather calculating.
Which she may well be and there is no shame in it. None.
You don’t meet a Prince by accident and you certainly don’t marry one that way either. It takes planning and work, neither of which is a problem. No one thinks she is some naive ingenue anyway.
And the first marriage may have been an impetuous decision that was ended the same way.
7 years into a relationship before getting married is not what I would call ‘impetuous’. But there’s alwaya first time.
THIS! I don’t have social skills to do this but it makes me even more appreciative when I see someone can. Let’s be honest, to marry a prince you can’t be the most delicate and sensitive person ever.
Thank you! Of course she’s calculating. How on earth do people think she got where she is today? By being polite and sweet?! One doesn’t suddenly find themselves in elite Royal circles. She climbed and she won her prize. What’s the big deal? There’s nothing wrong with admitting it. Kate/Carole did the same. It just took them longer.
She looks gorgeous in the header shot. Who knows what shit really went down in her marriage to end it that way (if that is truly how she ended it). Under some circumstances, her alleged actions might have been restrained, tactful and classy. Since she and Harry are the only people on the gossip sites that make me happy these days, they are Teflon to me. And I truly do believe they are good, normal, sincere people that give us hope.
You know how there are celeb threads around here that you avoid for certain reasons but every now and then you just can’t help but click? Yes, I was reminded why I avoid the Meg Markle threads.
I honestly don’t know how Markle can deal with so many people being so heavily invested in the minutia of her life. I don’t care if she gets to marry a prince or whatever, there is NOTHING worth the level of scrutiny.
No kidding. She’s the new Sophie Hunter in these parts. A woman who dares marry someone’s Internet boyfriend must be always be an evil, social climbing gold digger.
I can’t abide the painstaking criticism of Megan’s and Kate’s fashion choices. It’s 2018, are we still just judging women by how well they dress??
A person has to be very thick skinned too marry into that foolishness.
Is this story supposed to make me hate her? Because it doesn’t. I’ve only heard from one side. There’s probably a LOT more to it than is being told. But I don’t even care about her telling her side, because it was five years ago, it’s over, and everyone has moved on (except perhaps for those who are bitter about her marrying royalty now!).
She left didn’t take any money from him, gave his rings back but took a blender she probably bought so I’m not seeing the issue here. Not everyone need or want to do a face to face a clean break is better for some people.
I’m honestly over judging over women for how they leave the men in their lives. Sorry, there are just too many stories of this not working out so well for them. I don’t know the nature of MM and her Ex’s relationship, but when it’s over for one party, it’s over. No one is obligated to allow you to emotionally plead with them to stay if you truly want to go.
Trevor’s current girlfriend is Jewish and 10 years younger. Knowing what we know about Meghan they sound worlds apart. Jewish wealthy boy from Long Island. Mixed race woman middle class upbringing from CA. She worked many jobs to support herself in her younger years. I am sure his parents supported him while his business was in its infancy stage (familiar with his likely lifestyle since I live in the town he grew up in).
Getting a break in acting is the most exciting thing to happen to an actor. I guess the timing of their marriage coincided with her new job and it was a long distance relationship.
Sending her ring back via mail is a bad thing.
Says who? If it was the safest way she wanted to do it. Why not? Plenty of women avoid ex husbands.
There’s much we don’t know about the abruptness of their split. Something happened, something very serious. Her close girlfriend has been a constant defender of Trevor’s and has definitely taken his side in the divorce which can mean one of several things – she and Meghan had a falling out over the break-up, Meghan found out that her friend was telling Trevor lies about Meghan in order to get closer to him or they had a full-on affair and Meghan found out about it. In any event we’re not privy to what went down but sending her rings back instead of cashing them in was in my opinion part of a necessarily quick and total end to their marriage.
I am not sure what her race or his religion has to do with it. He obviously didn’t care that she isn’t Jewish or he wouldn’t have married her. I have mixed relatives that are Jewish. The black parent is a convert. I have family that married people who aren’t Jewish.
It depends on the person and how important it is to them.
Plus her biracial identity tells us absolutely nothing about her.
It had more to do with something else.
I did not say it was the cause. He is now dating a Jewish woman so maybe it is now become important to him.
I don’t understand the timing… someone help me here.
She went to work to Toronto before getting married, I assume they traveled back and forth to see each other and during filming breaks. Then things get colder and she “blindsides” him and ends things long distance and sends her rings back to him… when didi she put that blender on her backseat before riding (err… driving) into the sunset all the way to … her moms’? before or after sending the rings?
they are really trying to milk this so much things don’t make sense.
I can’t trust the words of three very, very bitter people. The more they talk, the more clear it becomes why Meghan does not want them in her life.
The two siblings exposed their crazy and there is something wrong with the ex friend. Even if Meghan did her wrong, the friend still comes off as vindictive. Move on with your life instead of stewing in negativity!
Ending friendships in a way that makes neither party want to get revenge – that kind of art seems to go out of style.
Even if a friendship ends badly, one should not want to seek revenge. Just move on with your life.
If the ex-friend thinks Meghan is poor character then she should be happy Meghan is out of her life. Instead, she is profiting and defaming her…this friend seems shady as hell.
Maybe she has a few overwhelming reasons to get revenge? Or maybe not?
I start being really impressed with people who say that they aim for an amiable divorce and that they still talk to their ex.
That doesn’t seem to be the case with Markle/Engelson.
Andrew Morton wrote: “A wealthy entrepreneur friend claimed the marriage ended so abruptly that Meghan sent Trevor her diamond wedding and engagement rings back by registered mail.” Neither Meghan nor her ex- contributed interviews or information to this book, but don’t let that fact get in the way of negatively judging her based on what other people said, especially the ones willing to sell out to the media.
Snakes always come out of the grass at this time. I said it months ago. If certain people sniff a way of making an easy buck or two they will spin whatever they can into salacious gossip. Shame on them all from Morton to the ex to the back-stabbing siblings to the once good friend. Their 15 minutes of fame will be up shortly.
I don’t think they have anything to be worried about at all. If Harry is good then it is all good.
He can be as angry as he wants, if she wasn’t happy in the marriage she had every right to get out. There were no kids and they lived in different cities. Anyway why would you want to stay married to someone who doesn’t want to be with you? Ending it is best for both parties.
It sounds to me like Meghan left that marriage in a hurry for good reason.
Well, so what? This isn’t relevant to anything at all and who cares? It’s not even interesting. Nor is it anyone’s business. I have absolutely no judgment for how she chose to deal with the end of her marriage. I’m sure she had her reasons. And whether she did or did not have her reasons (c’mon, of course she had reasons for how she undertook things), it doesn’t even matter.
That all said, when I left my ex-husband, I left one day while he was at work. I left my ring on the table with no letter. The man knew why I left and what he’d done in the relationship. No letter was needed. He knew. I never spoke another word to him again. That was fifteen years ago. I took my clothes and my books. And my dog (who was truly my dog, not our dog–I’d had her far before I even met him). And that was it. I did it that way for reasons. It was my choice and that was that. Boundaries. And I don’t care one whit what ANYONE on this earth might think about that. Same goes for Meghan. More power to her! She owes no one an explanation. And actually, I think I like her better for this.
Everybody sitting here arguing over a split when they know zero about the people is comical. People can be nice people generally and still be not so nice at times in their lives. Stop arguing over who did what in this marriage and divorce. No one knows. And stop defending either one of them, because you don’t know them. Meghan could have hurt him and moved on quickly, which is even more hurtful to the person who was still in love. It doesn’t make her evil. It doesn’t make him a saint if she did. It’s life and people are complicated. But defending her like she has to be a saint all the time or having no flaws is nonsense and reeks of fangirl overkill. YOU DON’T KNOW HER.
A few facts.
We know the ex-husband is doing a TV show about his Ex. He sure is moving on.
The former best friend, by her words and actions, proves she is bitter.
Vonnie is 4/6 years younger than Meghan’s mother, so no chance that Doria is going to allow resentful step-children to babysit her daughter.
Doria left the marital home when Meghan was two years old, and divorced when she was 6.
So it’s a load BS, when they claimed they help raised Meghan.
After May 19, the gravy train will be over, and it’s back to their miserable lives.
I was talking about a divorce between these two long ago, nothing else.
As far as your comments re her family, no one gives two cents about her crazy step-siblings and selling stories. They are lowlifes who were much older than her, and like you said, her mom divorced their dad when Meghan was young.. Even haters can see that.
we don’t know him either. What we know is that he is profiting from this (re: tv show)
Morton takes any possible chance to make money. As long as people still go on talking about him, or even worse, buying his books, he will go on making money
Who is shocked? If Prince Harry dm’d me, I’d be on the first plane out no matter what.
lmao.
Same.lol
I love salacious gossip, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t give a rat’s ass if she dumped her her first hubby or what the circumstances were. At this point Andrew Morton is trying to make a buck off the royal wedding and yakking about her first marriage now is designed to cause major upset right before her wedding. Think Megan isn’t stressed out enough right now? These a-holes are going to pile on. Shameless! Hope she turns a blind eye to all of it. So far she has ignored the ugliness and carried on perfectly. Hope she can continue to do so. F**k them!
I loved MM in the first season of Suits. I haven’t watched the other seasons yet but I’ve held a very favorable view of her since that first season, she’s such a good actress and such a joy to watch. She had an amazing screen presence.
That said, when I watched the engagement interview she did with Harry, she struck me as disingenuous when she said she didn’t know who Harry was when they first met. She came off as calculated and fake to me in that interview and I was very disappointed. I hope my impression of her in that interview proves false but as of now I feel slightly inclined to believe she’s not all that she pretends to be. All the shady things people have said about her probably do stem from bitterness but still begs the question why are all those former relatives/friends/ex-husband so bitter? How did she treat them for them to feel that way about her? No matter what you may think of Kate M for example I can’t recall anyone coming out in interviews with similarly damaging claims before they were married. That’s why I’m not willing to jump on the bandwagon of declaring MM a saint just yet.
Regardless of who she turns out to be as a person I’m thrilled she’s marrying into the BRF as the first biracial person to do so. I’m with Whoopi Goldberg on that issue. Also the inbred BRF sorely needs more fresh genes in their gene pool. So I hope they have kids as soon as possible.
She said she didn’t know much about him. How well do we really know celebrities? Because you read about them doesn’t tell you how they are in private. She asked if he was nice, that to me says it all.
In my 20s i was really ambitious. I wanted to make something of myself and didn’t let anything stand in my way. I’ve broken up with guys over text, ghosted them etc.. Did it make me calculating? Absolutely. I grew up and realised that money meant nothing without love and happiness. I think this is the case here as well. I remember watching an episode of Wendy where Suzanne said how Markle had turned up at their studio without representation wanting to be a part of the show in some capacity. This was a few months before she met the royal. As people we have this incredible need to see people as all good or all evil. People are complex. I think this wOman has a very distinct need to be in the limelight and she is not above conniving and calculating to get what she wants. She has hit the jackpot with the royal family. Her previous relationships with that chef and how abruptly it ended shows that she is prone to make rash decisions that are purely beneficial to her own agenda. In saying all this, does this mean she is purely evil?? Nope. It’s obvious that she does like helping the less fortunate and genuinely (sometimes a bit misguided) want to make the world a better place. She clearly has a lot of learning to do. Good luck to her in life and we should all hope she realises her own path.