It would be difficult to find a human being more contemptible than JD Vance. One of Vance’s biggest problems, in my opinion, is that he believes he’s a slick operator and a smooth, effortless liar. He lies a lot, and he believes that practice makes perfect. That’s not the case. He comes across as a sleazy used-car salesman, a soulless wannabe huckster with dead eyes and Pillsbury Doughboy physique. I was reminded of this because someone thought it would be a good idea to send Vance out to talk about an ICE agent murdering Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis this week. Good was an American citizen and a mother who had just dropped off her child at school. She was shot in the face three times by 43-year-old ICE agent Jonathan Ross as she tried to maneuver her SUV around the dumbf–k ICE agents standing in the street. According to JD Vance, Renee Nicole Good only has herself to blame for getting shot in the face.
Vice President JD Vance blamed Renee Nicole Good for her own death during a press briefing one day after the 37-year-old mother was shot and killed by an ICE agent. Vance, 41, described the circumstances of Good’s death as “an attack on federal law enforcement” as well as “the American people” while speaking to reporters from the White House on Thursday, Jan. 8.
The vice president, who raised his voice at times while speaking, passionately defended the ICE agent — who has since been identified as Jonathan Ross — while characterizing Good as a radical activist. Vance alleged Good was “part of a broader left-wing network to attack, to dox, to assault and to make it impossible for our ICE officers to do their job,” before accusing her of “trying to ram this guy with her car,” referring to Ross.
“He shot back, he defended himself,” Vance continued, adding, “Everybody who has been repeating the lie that this was some innocent woman who was out for a drive in Minneapolis when a law enforcement officer shot at her, you should be ashamed of yourselves, every single one of you.”
Good’s ex-husband told The Associated Press that the mom of three was returning from dropping off her 6-year-old son at school and driving back home with her current partner when the couple came across a group of ICE agents on Wednesday morning. He also said Good was not an activist, and that he had no knowledge of her taking part in protests in the past. Good’s mother, Donna Ganger, also disputed that her daughter was part of any coordinated anti-ICE efforts. In response to the Trump administration’s description of her daughter as a “domestic terrorist” and claim that ICE responded in self defense, Ganger told The Minneapolis Star Tribune, “That’s so stupid. She was probably terrified.”
While answering questions from reporters in the room on Thursday, one of whom said, “Nobody wants to see an American killed,” Vance agreed before describing Good’s death as “a tragedy, but it’s a tragedy of the making of the far-left.”
Moments later, a reporter asked Vance if he was “preempting a thorough investigation” of the shooting by publicly drawing his own “conclusions.”
The vice president replied, “The Department of Homeland Security is already investigating this. But the simple fact is, what you see is what you get in this case. You have a woman who is trying to obstruct a legitimate law enforcement operation. Nobody debates that. You have a woman who aimed her car at a law enforcement officer and pressed on the accelerator. Nobody debates that,” he added, repeating a claim that is widely debated.
You can hear the squeaky hamster wheel turning slowly in Vance’s brain. “Maybe if I just say these things loudly, they’ll believe me! NOBODY DEBATES MY OBVIOUS LIES!” Meanwhile, Vance’s pitiful press conference happened hours after the NY Times released their detailed video analysis showing that Renee Nicole Good was actually brutally murdered by an ICE agent, who was not acting in any kind of self-defense. I’m including the video below.
Must watch: NYT just released a damning forensic analysis of the ICE shooting in Minneapolis.
It flatly refutes Trump administration claims — confirming the motorist was driving away, not toward the officer, and the officer was not hit by the vehicle.https://t.co/n8opkxbtmU pic.twitter.com/jJ0ttyr34R
— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) January 8, 2026
Photos courtesy of Cover Images.
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- United States Vice President JD Vance speaks during a press briefing in the James S Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House Featuring: Vice President JD Vance Where: Washington, District of Columbia, United States When: 08 Jan 2026 Credit: Bonnie Cash/POOL via CNP/INSTARimages.com
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- United States Vice President JD Vance speaks during a press briefing in the James S Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House Featuring: Vice President JD Vance Where: Washington, District of Columbia, United States When: 08 Jan 2026 Credit: Bonnie Cash/POOL via CNP/INSTARimages.com
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- United States Vice President JD Vance speaks during a press briefing in the James S Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House Featuring: Vice President JD Vance Where: Washington, District of Columbia, United States When: 08 Jan 2026 Credit: Bonnie Cash/POOL via CNP/INSTARimages.com
I have been kind of depressed today, because this happened at all. But also, because our leaders expect us to accept B-S.
It’s horrific and Vance’s lack of compassion for a young mother gunned down by federal agents is appalling.
Even more unforgivable about this harmful and hateful narrative JD & the Administration is pushing, despite us seeing with our own eyes how *ICE* swarmed *her* car and attacked her (and beside the fact that *anyone* who said anything even similar about Kirk was shamed, fired, etc. – so major double standard)…
…is that apparently she WAS listening to and following directions of the ICE agents, but these disorganized goons cosplaying as law enforcement are so untrained and uncoordinated that they were giving conflicting orders. Witnesses heard some agents tell her to leave (get out of their way kind of thing), while others were telling her to stop.
There was literally no way to follow their orders, since they gave conflicting orders.
So everyone out there saying “it’s her fault for disobeying,” ***she WAS obeying.***
What they really mean is, “Our government can kidnap or murder whoever they want.”
And yeah, that is exactly what our government believes too.
There has been very little attention given to the fact that members of the goon squad were barking contradictory orders at a confused and probably panicking person. “Just do as you’re told” hits differently when an individual is being told different things by multiple alleged law enforcement.
Yes, all of this. And what’s even worse (yes, it gets worse) is there is video of ICE preventing a doctor from tending to her which maybe could have saved her life. I have rarely heard of such despicable actions against a so-called civilized nation’s own citizens outside of nazi Germany. Even imperial Japan saved their atrocities for foreign nations, not their own people.
I have my issues with living in a world with cameras everywhere but here we have the counterpoint to that. Thank goodness for video of events like this. It won’t stop them lying but people can see what actually happened when this woman was murdered.
it’s too bad people don’t believe what they’re actually seeing. lots of people seem to be buying into all of this, talking about how renee never should have been there in the first place, it’s her fault for not listening to law enforcement, using her car as a deadly weapon, etc. all counter to what actually happened and the fact that ice is overreaching their authority constantly. i hate this place so much. every time i feel something terrible enough happens that will get people to see the light-that our government isn’t run by people, actual humane people-just inhuman animals, so many just keep justifying it to own the libs or whatever. i’m so exhausted, to be honest. and i’ve experienced no where near the suffering of people who actually have to interact with these a**holes. i’ve always said it when referring to the kkk, but it also applies to ice: if you’re so proud of your convictions and are so happy with your choices and think you’re doing the right thing, why hide yourself? sorry for the rant. i just needed some place to vent a little. peace and hope to all of us
Many of those comments on social media are bots. It was so obviously coordinated. They were using the same talking points and some were so incoherent that it’s clear English is not their first language. That said, mis and disinformation is a plague which we must figure out how to combat.
Imagine being a kid that goes to Roosevelt High School in Minneapolis and the completely unnecessary terror that you experienced with these masked thugs attacking your school and the school’s staff. Imagine being a 6 year old kid in Minneapolis and the only thing you know is that the schools are closed for two days because of these scary men in masks. What person who works for ICE would be proud of inspiring terror in small children and teenagers? They’re the fucking Boogeyman.
And there was another ICE shooting in Portland, OR. The details are predictably vague and I’m not gonna repeat their lies here. Just remember when you read about it: if this administration is talking, they’re LYING. It’s all bullshit and always will be bullshit. Nothing they say should be granted even an ounce of credibility.
When ICE invaded Chicago the communities and faith leaders and governor did a lot to inform people of their rights. They churches and community organizations did training sessions. Besides knowing your rights using whistles to warn people and that kind of thing. The governor asked people do document with video what ice was doing. He said that some day they would be held accountable and the video documentation would help. Other communities took what Chicago and LA actually and have been doing. It’s been effective but ice has gotten more violent. The reason there are so many videos from different angles is partially because of wanting to document this behavior. Thank god we have this so even though the lie is there we know the truth. Some people that voted for him will know the truth. His core supporters are a lost cause no matter what. I am still shocked when he said in 2015 that he could shoot someone and I wouldn’t lose any voters that that is one of the few things he was telling the truth about.
What happened to Renee is the ultimate incel magat fantasy… that is why tangerine tits didn’t lose supporters after the infamous Times Square comment and why ice is so actively recruiting incels.
This is horrible and wrong and has already happened multiple times. This needs to stop. For anyone who isn’t completely shook by this, you need to find your humanity.
F-ck him. Truly. Ghouls are running our country. Ghoulish horrible people.
Distressingly, people I know and are related to are buying into his lies. And – these are educated people, with master’s degrees… this is horrifying.
This is the scariest part. People are jumping through hoops to justify murder. Suddenly Good was a left-wing agitator who attemptef to ran ICE over.
What will it take for them to trust their own eyes? Who needs to die next?
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
This is overt control. This is fascism.
He is the antichrist.
Does the Catholic Church still excommunicate people?
One would think they’d excommunicate someone who killed the Pope.
The Antichrist supposedly will be “strikingly handsome” which is how I know Trump and Vance aren’t it. But they certainly would like to be.
Can her family sue him for defamation?
I still can’t quite comprehend how utterly vile this man is. I mean, just the unabashed, viscous lies, the victim-blaming, the fucking propaganda that this man is spewing. Just unreal.
And I’m sorry but I finally agree with that edgelord RW Gen Z influencer Clavicular, who said this about JD Vance: “He’s subhuman. He’s got a very short total facial width to height ratio, he’s obese, very recessed side profile.”
Dude is truly one of the ugliest men I’ve ever seen in my life–inside and out.
Defamation
Wrongful Death
Vance in his individual, personal capacity, Noem in personal & official capacity & DHS
Vance pretty much admitted Ross was unfit for duty, that’s on Noem for putting him in the field. He was also untrained
Great article in today’s Boston Globe on rules about cops shooting into vehicles .
Her family will multiple grounds to sue so many people, starting with her killer.
What a small, miserable, evil man he is. May Ms.Good’s memory be a blessing and may her family find comfort in the support of their close circle.
History has its eye on this miserable cabal that calls itself the Trump Administration.
What I sort of “enjoy” about JD Vance in a twisted ironic way is how he think he’s the heir to the Republican party, he thinks he’s as influential as Trump, he thinks what he says on social media or in press conferences like this is as meaningful as what Trump says.* But no one likes him or takes him seriously – not Trump, not the congressional leaders (Rs or Ds), etc. So he’s up there ranting and raving and lying his ass off and I feel like people – supporters or not – just kind of shrug at him. I am not trying to downplay his danger or his threat to democracy because those are both big issues, and I do think he’s a horrible human being for many many reasons but sometimes I sit back and look at him and just kind of laugh because…..he’s such an unlikeable weirdo and everyone knows it. Except maybe Erika Kirk.
*meaningful because the party and his followers just accept his word as law, not because his words are actually meaningful.
And unfortunately, he’s one heart beat away from the presidency when that heart is not healthy and belongs to another monster of epic proportions.
I know…..thats why I can only laugh some of the times. Its kind of a “laugh so I dont cry” type of thing. And unlikeable weirdo or not, he’s very close to being president.
I think Rubio is taking the opportunity as the face of Mango’s foreign policy approach to raise his profile with the Maga crowd who will be looking for the next bully leader after Trump croaks. Vance can’t seem to establish a presence as vice president, which is not surprising. His only chance at putting himself on the radar of their voter base is jumping ship to Erika Kirk. Leaving his POC wife for a maga Barbie would be considered a plus in their eyes and he would have another woman planning his moves after Usha dragged him this far.
The entire world saw the videos.
The entire world knows Vance and the rest of them are lying prolifically.
May this be the moment more Americans wake up and realize they’ve been lied to about everything else.
It’s clear that these people see anyone who questions, criticizes, or just looks at them quizzically as the enemy. They immediately begin othering such people in the most vile, dishonest ways. Then they pretend every crazy thing they said is perfectly normal discourse for high government officials. We need to think of a term more extreme than gaslighting for this. It’s a very sick and disturbing tactic which is common throughout the regime and their enablers.
There was an article in the Boston Globe this morning titled Law Enforcement 101: Don’t shoot at moving vehicles. Aside from what the videos clearly showed, the author highlighted the lack of ICE training and, I’m paraphrasing, but how stupid and bad policing it was for that officer to stand in front of that car and to shoot. NOT doing that has been part of police training and best practices for 20+ years; adopted by all the major police unions, etc. because inevitably no one comes out on top in that situation.
Also ironic that the ICE officer is supposedly a “good Christian” married to a Filipino woman who, if she wasn’t his wife, he’d probably be arresting and would be another lost in either jail or deported to some he*^hole.
I saw one comment suggesting that the shooter approaching the vehicle in an unauthorized and improper manner looked like an ambush since the other thug was distracting Renee by trying to open her door and drag her out. In any case, it’s clear he did not consider himself in danger at all. In fact, he kept his grip on his cell phone in his left hand while shooting her with his right. So, he also captured the whole sickening episode on video. Which we will never see.
I’m sure he treats his Filipino wife like a queen 👑. NOT!
I’m gonna be a bitch today and hope some white asshole calls ICE on his wife.
No. She is not responsible for his actions and may well be in an abusive relationship. It’s quite possible he “ordered” her from one of those foreign bride scams that provide wives for misogynists who want to control their spouse. Men who use these want maid and sexual services. I don’t know if this is the case here, but she should not be used to get at him.
Regarding 🧊training, I spotted this on Bluesky yesterday:
ICE agents only receive 300 hours of training before they’re turned loose on an unsuspecting public. Cops, get 1200 hours. Hairdressers, on the other hand, need 2400 hours. Make of that what you will.
Sidebar: Derek Chauvin was married to an Asian woman at the time he murdered George Floyd.
Is that 300 hours of training requirement before or after Trump came to power? Low as it is, I truly doubt that Trump’s goon squads have that much training. And many of them have serious criminal records which would have disqualified them before Trump.
I think that 300hrs was the reduction to staff up for StephenMiller’s 3K / day mandate. I agree they probably shaved off some time to get them on the street. And to your point of criminal records, I’ll reiterate my point yesterday in another thread: how many of these goons have their dna sitting in the CODIS database?
You have the army shooting innocent Americans citizens…it’s war.
Also his boss has declared that international laws does not exist.
Does this mean that everyone can invade US now?
That’s what scares me most (in part because I live near a military base, war college and major military sub manufacturer). Felon47 seems to think that no country would dare touch or go after the US because he’s in charge, when all he’s really done is open the door and put out a challenge.
Also, unfortunately, Orange Mussolini has too much consensus 🙁
Shady Vance sounds like a typical abuser with the typical abuser response. “You made me do it, it’s not MY fault.” And fitting that this happened under Kristi Gnome’s watch, I’m sure she believes that puppy made her kill it. They are all disgusting.
As per usual, Trump won’t take responsibility for anything, so he sends his little dough boy out to act bigly mad. Vance is such a little bitch. He’s Peter Thiel’s bitch and he’s Trump’s bitch.
And there are articles of impeachment sitting on Mike Johnson’s desk, which he refuses to bring to a floor vote. Johnson has long presented himself to be a character straight out of Mel Brooks “The History of the World, Part I,” the servant who follows the bewigged king around the palace gardens, carrying the king’s p!ss bucket. Clips are on YT & you can’t unsee the historical resemblance to our awful times.
@Emcee3 – I haven’t seen that comparison yet – it’s a good one. I have maintained for a while now that Mike Johnson is the high school nerd who gets protection from the mean cool kids and gets to sit at the cool kids’ lunch table so long as he agrees to do their homework for them and never snitch on them. He’s been pining to sit at that table his whole life and he’ll do anything to keep it that way.
Honestly, I wish the Dems would put aside their obsession with impeachment. It just empowers Felon47’s base and, based on the last 2 attempts, in the end doesn’t make a bit of difference.
And I hope when (God, PLEASE) Dems take the House and Senate they focus their energy on undoing the mess and making solid legislation vs spending the time and money on a likely futile impeachment effort.
But people do buy his lies though. So many look to leadership when horrible things happen. Especially when those awful things challenge their integrity. I can’t say I’m a Christian who is pro life and supports ICE AND be super whatever chill about ICE literally murdering a person….or can I? Then JD Vance says “oh yes you can! It was her own fault.” And many people feel a sense of relief from the discomfort of their own conflicting values because someone in leadership just organized it for them and because they never learned how to tolerate discomfort; walk through the storm; and get to the other side. And also I think we are living in a time that wants things instantly people don’t want to take the time to really process an event, so they’ll take a leader’s word no matter how poorly that message was articulated. So they go back to the safety of their own distortions because that’s easier than the discomfort of critically thinking.
“I can’t say I’m a Christian who is pro life and supports ICE AND be super whatever chill about ICE literally murdering a person….or can I? Then JD Vance says ‘oh yes you can! It was her own fault.'”
Why don’t they look to Pope Leo XIV who teared up when border bishops presented him a video of the atrocities being carried out by Trump-Vance’s ICE and said that every Catholic must resign from ICE? Why turn to someone like JD Vance, a recent Catholic convert, instead?
Look, I don’t necessarily disagree with anything you said but I also think you’re leaving out the raw animus that undergirds/motivates MAGA and RW extremists. Like, I don’t think it’s merely a matter of conflicting values, it’s that they genuinely believe in what Trump’s selling. They are arrogant, self-righteous people who think that anyone who doesn’t look/think/act like them is lesser than. Anything that pierces their bubble of self-righteousness and attempts to force self-reflection is an existential threat to them. In that sense, I agree with you about the conflicting values. But that doesn’t explain why they turn to the most objectively immoral people instead of a higher moral authority to validate their feelings. They do so because they genuinely subscribe to the same dangerous ideology as Trump, Vance, Miller and the like. All of these people give them permission to be who they really are by relentlessly defending indefensible things.
ETA: I mentioned the permission structure above but thinking about it more, MAGA don’t need or seek permission. These people don’t experience a moral dilemma or some kind of inner turmoil because they don’t have the capacity for self-reflection nor the intellectual rigor required to get there. It’s not an open question in their minds–they already have the answer. They hear about something like this and immediately think “ICE GOOD, PROTESTOR BAD” and then look to people like Vance and Trump to mirror their views as more of a self-soothing exercise than anything else.
Today, I received the news that a friend from University has just died after being hospitalized for a few months. At the age of 50 he leaves behind two kids and a wife.
When our class went out at night at university, he used to take us girls all home and make sure we all got home safe. He would walk kilometres every night to ensure our safety. He was a really nice person always worried about other people’s welfare and always with a smile on his face.
He was a good person and died.
Bad people live on and on and just live their lives planning on ways to hurt others.
This world is s***.
I’m sorry for your loss. And I understand exactly how you feel.
So sorry for your loss. May his memory be a blessing to you.
By his rationale, then Ashli Babbitt has only herself to blame for being shot by the Capitol police.
Logic is not his strong suit, Yale Law or not.
The law isn’t his strong suit, either.
This administration is lying and trying to hide the truth, change the truth, all of it from January 6th to this. We are so fucked. I fear if the midterms are not a straight up blue flood, we will realize that our country, our America as we know it, was stolen from us by these evil corrupt people!
“Vance, 41, described the circumstances of Good’s death as “an attack on federal law enforcement” as well as “the American people” while speaking to reporters from the White House on Thursday, Jan. 8.”
SHE WAS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!
Vance said that Ross might be sensitive because he was dragged by a car previously. That is NOT a viable excuse for Ross killing Renée Good! Ross should not have been in the field if he was sensitized.
I am still speechless about what happened and about the reaction of those bastards. They shoot people. In broad daylight. For no reason. They are not the police. They had no rights whatsoever. And the president and vice-president of this country think that’s perfectly fine and commendable. Read about Hitler’s rise to power in Europe and the documents from the Nuremberg trials. History is repeating itself. 1:1.
And yet insurrectionist Ashli Babbitt, breaking into a room where legislators had taken refuge, is a MAGA martyr. Shot by law enforcement, her family have been generously compensated. Hailed as a patriot. The hypocrisy as usual is staggering. RIP Ms Good.
Well there’s also his wife who continues to provide cover for this POS.
Her family needs to sue all of them for libel and defamation and file a wrongful death civil suit against the good ice agent.
It’s all by design – it’s Vance’s role to be scary and openly sociopathic (Miller & Noem too) so Trump can flick his tiny fingers around and pretend he’s just an overworked tycoon trying to save the economy and give the nation a decent ballroom.
These people want to instigate a civil war through brutal, unjust, deadly actions against democrats, demonstrators and leftists, and then use the resistance as a trigger to introduce emergency laws nationwide, dissolve democracy and all rights, and establish a dictatorship.
A normal mind cannot imagine the completely perverse thoughts and ideas that people like Trump’s backers have in their heads, which they are increasingly implementing. I can only say again and again: read or watch how Hitler came to power, look at the Nuremberg trials or read Hanna Arendt on the Eichmann trial. You will learn a lot about the mindset
of these people around Trömp in the here and now. I have been dealing with this topic for a long time and believe that gentle diplomacy is no longer an effective means of resistance when the press is increasingly bought by the right wing and propaganda bombards people on a daily basis.
I expect Europe to speak out very clearly, and we must all also look at which international communities or local communities we can support in order to stop this sect, which is growing worldwide.
I hope to live long enough to see his comeuppance.
https://youtu.be/er1rMAt_mqM?si=0Myjl2vlqXimAhq1
In response from Meidas Touch Network, in case my text does not go through. These are terrible images. It is reality.
The video clarified the motive he had for shooting her. He was pissed. Two women were amicably joshing him and showing no fear. He circled the car (not in accordance with training) and when she moved to drive off, clearly turning the wheel to avoid him, he began firing. “F**king b**ch.” He’s proud of himself. And he moved the phone from his right hand to his left hand so he could draw his gun before the car began to move. Supposedly in fear for his life, he never dropped the phone or even stopped recording. The regime continues to gaslight about what the video shows.
OTOH, I would think a youthful, conventionally attractive white mother of three would be the breaking point. OTOH, I know better. For an administration and cult that worships at the alter of white babies, they’ve delighted in the massacre of same babies, so I doubt they care if a woman who is probably done having babies is taken from her children. (Is that too cynical and awful to speak aloud? Well, this is where we are. White supremacists aren’t even capable of consistent, rational beliefs). EFF ALL OF THIS!