So why did Twitter shut down the ‘Prince William affair’ hashtag this week?

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#PrinceWilliamAffair has been trending throughout the week, and I’ve used the hashtag a few times as well. I’ve been surprised by the number of people who tweeted at me, asking me to talk about about William’s “alleged” affair with Rose Hanbury, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley, or asking me to provide some kind of update on the situation. First of all, there are no updates other than Twitter suspiciously shutting down the #PrinceWilliamAffair hashtag. I guess we could consider that an update, alongside the blowback on every royal reporter trying to cover up the William-Rose stories by actively smearing Prince Harry and Meghan. But my point is that I’ve been on the “Rose Hanbury beat” since March 2019, when the first “rural rival” story appeared. You can also see our years-long coverage of the story here.

Now that we’re almost three full years past the first flurry of stories, I still believe that Rose was the one who initially leaked the “rural rival” story in the first place. I think Rose did that to put the Duchess of Cambridge in her place, because Kate genuinely tried to phase out Rose and Rose was like “know your place, Waity.” I also believe the story of William’s alleged affair with Rose was gossip in aristocratic circles long before the story broke publicly in March 2019. Once the story broke, Prince William did the most to shut down or threaten every media outlet saying anything about the story, and there are many dead URLs and hastily rewritten or edited stories out there. An editor at Foreign Policy even said outright that in 2019, William struck bargains with the British media to cover up his affair(s) and, in exchange, handed the media stories about Meghan.

Incidentally, I’ve never even believed that Rose was the only “other woman.” I just think Kate was the most worried about Rose. Kate didn’t even seem to mind when William abandoned her shortly after she gave birth so he could go boar-hunting in Spain with Jecca Craig nor did Kate get upset when William went to Kenya solo to attend Jecca’s wedding shortly after Jecca gave birth to a secret baby. Speaking of, I’ve also heard those rumors about Rose’s daughter. I have no doubt that’s how a lot of aristocrats roll, but… yeah, we have no evidence. I have another suspicion, completely unverified, that William has been done with Rose for a while and that he has a new side-chick, name unknown. My guess is that it’s one of the “mums” he met at the gym where he goes after he drops off the kids.

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  1. Cee says:

    Everytime he tries to shut it down, he amplifies it.

    • mich says:

      I think it was Eden blaming Meghan for the crossbow incident and compromising Windsors safety that got the ball rolling on Twitter. Alas, PW new PR move is solving homelessness as a diversion.

      • Jais says:

        I doubt he’ll solve homelessness but if he’s talking about turning royal buildings into shelters or affordable housing that seems like a good idea? It’s just that you need more than just the buildings, you’d also need funding, which will not come from him. The article says it’s just in the investigative phase so maybe he’s also fishing to see who might offer to fund this initiative. I’m cynical about everything that has to do with William though so it’s funny how people have pointed out affair and affordable have the same first letters.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Someone elsewhere pointed out that the affordable housing article is also connected to SEO, i.e. if you write “prince william aff” in google search what comes up now is “prince william affordable housing” comes up rather than “prince william affair”. So don’t expect ANY real plan to turn royal buildings into affordable housing. It is about changing the SEO so the word “affair” doesn’t come up first in google searches.

      • Jan90067 says:

        Jais, TOBB and Cannont are *always* “investigating” or “studying” a problem and never come up with solutions, workable or otherwise. It’s all just a soundbite, a tidbit to throw to the Rota Rats.

        While Diana took Bitter Brother to see the plight of the homeless when he was a teen, she also worked to raise monies for charities to help them.

        Bitter Brother hasn’t done squat since, other than run his mouth. And saying that he’ll do this to the Duchy is probably to piss off Charles (as it’s still HIS property).

        Besides, doesn’t the Duchy and its income come WITH the PoW title?? No guarantee that Charles will bestow the title on Bitter Brother as soon as he is crowned King. He could make BB wait quite a while for it, toying with him to toe the line with more work in order to give the title to him and Dolittle.

      • LBB says:

        Oh wow@ArtHistorian that is crazy! I had no idea the lengths they would go to……

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Jan90067 – Baldy becomes the Duke of Cornwall, the minute QEII dies and Chucky III becomes king, as the eldest son and heir of the monarch. It is the title “Prince of Wales” that Chucky III must bestow on Baldy.

      • Feeshalori says:

        The Duchy of Cornwall and its income stream are independent of the POW title. One can be the Duke of Cornwall but not necessarily Prince of Wales since the heir to the throne automatically receives the former. You don’t have to be the eldest son to the monarch to be DOC, just the heir, but you do to be POW. And Charles can bestow the POW title on William at his discretion and at any time once he’s king. It would have been interesting if Charlotte were the heir to see if she became duchess of Cornwall in her own right in the future, or if that would have been reserved exclusively for male heirs as is the POW title.

      • Tessa says:

        No way will those mansions of the royals will be used to house the homeless. And why is he going on about what he will do as Prince of Wales when his grandmother is still alive. I hope Charles makes him wait to get that title.

      • Jan90067 says:

        You’re right BTB, thank you. This should teach me not to post before the first cup of coffee kicks in lol

      • Feeshalori says:

        I’m making my own correction about the Duke of Cornwall title. The possessor of the title is the eldest son and heir of the monarch. It is possible to be POW and not be the Duke of Cornwall since the heir gets the first title at the discretion of the monarch but doesn’t necessarily have to be restricted to the eldest son. Argh, not enough coffee for me either today!

      • CC says:

        @Arthistorian and @LBB, maybe the new hashtag should be “Prince William Affordable Cheating.”

      • equality says:

        @Tessa I doubt he’s talking about RF properties. Those actually owned by the Queen would go to PC as king. Those used by the RF but actually publicly owned are administered by an independent organization for the monarch. Will likely means duchy of cornwall residences that are leased by regular people.

      • Liz Version 700 says:

        Haha William is going to solve homelessness?!? Sigh can you imagine that PR brainstorming meeting…yes any ideas? No Chad I don’t think we can say he is going to instigate world peace as he is always incandescent…no for some reason no one buys that he is going to end racism. Homelessness you say ?!?pip pip Cheerio that will work for today! 🤦🏻‍♀️🙄

      • Cece says:

        So he’s already solved racism then? And all it took was to lecture to Africans that they have too many children and it’s set to f—k up his hunting on the continent. Ugh…

      • VIV says:

        Can’t wait to see his 5 question survey on homelessness in about 10 years time.

    • Andrew's Nemesis says:

      Streisand Syndrome runs rampant – again.
      I think we should expand the definition of insanity being the repetition of the same practice again and again in the hope of different results to include stupidity. The RF are as dumb as cupboards. They have the collective IQ of a blocked nostril. And their Men in Grey are fools to allow incadescent PWT to run amok.

      • You beat me to it. By doing this he made it so much worse and now it is out there that tax payer money was being used to hide his affair. Sorry Willy, but it looks like 2022 is the year your chickens come home to roost 😁

      • Demi says:

        Indeed taxpayers money was used to hide this affair that super injunction costs lots of money to maintain+ all those Helicopter trips someone should reach to journalists in the Guardian

      • Mslove says:

        Someone, anyone should have put a stop to his diabolical plan to oust H&M, but instead they sat back & did nothing. I guess he’ll be shutting down hashtags & throwing tantrums for the rest of his life, oh well.

      • Rebecca says:

        Courtiers know that any observable attempt to shut discussion down will only draw additional attention.
        Apparently, William doesn’t take advice.

  2. Amy Bee says:

    Yeah I agree that Rose or one of her aristo friends leaked the story to the press to show Kate who has the real power in Norfolk. I also agree that William has moved on from Rose and onto his next mistress and there’s nothing Kate can or will do about it.

    • Chloe says:

      It could have been rose, but it might also have been the middletons. One article comes to mind (that dropped around the time of their wedding anniversary) that stated that in the beginning of their marriage it was imbalanced because kate was merely a commoner. But now, the marriage is much more equal and kate has more “power”.

      I think they could have dropped the rumors to pull at williams strings.

      • Kalana says:

        We did get pictures of Kate carrying baby Archie on her way to Mustique when William was on his trip in Spain with Jecca. On the other hand, Kate disappeared when the rumors surfaced.

      • Amy Bee says:

        @Chloe: Kate gains nothing from that story getting out except humiliation. She’s not an equal partner in that relationship because of her status as a commoner. No matter how much she tries the aristos do not accept her and will take William’s side in any fight between the Middletons and the Windsors.

      • Amy Bee says:

        @Chioe: I agree that they’re never going to divorce but if Kate were to ever step out of line the press and the establishment would smear her and family ten times worse that Charles and the establishment did Diana. Kate knows that she has no friends among the aristos and the Palace and just like Diana she won’t be able to leave the country because of the children.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kalana, that was one of the many times the Middletons have slapped William publicly for his straying. Kate was photographed with George at a remote airport on their way to Mustique. She didn’t protest the pictures being published. Clear sign the Middletons wanted it known William was with Jecca while Kate was on family holiday. A week after that, Kate got her 10-day baby-free holiday in The Maldives with William.

        When he strays publicly, they slap him down publicly to get what they want. The Midds are not victims nor are they powerless; they have many close ties to tabloids and tabloid editors.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “A week after that, Kate got her 10-day baby-free holiday in The Maldives with William.”

        Who in their right mine would want to go on a 10-day holiday with Baldy, let alone go on a 10-day alone with him! LOL! LOL!

      • Feeshalori says:


      • JanetDR says:

        @Ba yTampaBay, also when you have a newborn?!?!?! Who would leave an infant to go on vacation?

      • Seraphina says:

        @BTB, I agree. I would not go near him after that episode. But these people function by a different set of rules.

      • L84Tea says:

        @Nota, you are absolutely right. Remember the Swiss ski chalet dad-dancing fiasco? That was a huge embarrassment for Kate because it looked like William was, if not cheating, being way too flirty and handsy with other women. The reward for that screw up? Kate got baby Louis!

      • Feeshalori says:

        Louis, the Bandaid baby.

      • nutella toast says:

        I just watch William Dad Dancing from 2017 and….bahahahahahahahaha….

        Even in THIS, Harry beats him hands down (a lot less cring-inducing)

      • Nic919 says:

        What is interesting is that kate did not get anything following the rose affair rumours. Ok she got the Victorian order ribbon, but that not the same type of thing that she had gotten in the past and she got it from the queen. It is almost as if William said that he wasn’t going to give her anything else for future escapades.

      • February pisces says:

        I think kate absolutely did benefit from the Rose rumours leaking unofficially. It meant more eyes are on Willie now more than ever, and Rose. If anything this probably scared Rose off Willie, having her name out there so publicly. Also if Willie ever decides to leave kate for Rose, then we will know that their affair goes back a few years, making Rose ‘camilla’ therefore she automatically becomes the villain whilst kate gets to play “diana’ and cry about how she was cheated on.

        So kate has absolutely benefitted from this from all angles.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She may have seen benefit in the short term, but with the departure of Harry and Meghan under clouds of abuse and racism from W&K&KP? Kate is a prime suspect for one of the royal racists, plus she’s lied about the crying story repeatedly. I think in the two year lockdown, William’s been at Wood Farm as others have said. Having two years free from Kate and doing whatever he wants.

    • Cee says:

      Yeah, but why did Kate decide to phase her out? What was different about his affair with Rose? He has cheated on her the moment he upgraded her status from side piece to official girlfriend and Kate has tolerated it but something about Rose shook her, and her family, to their core.

      • Amy Bee says:

        @Cee: As the future Queen she thought she had overcome her social status and that she had power to phase out Rose. She was quickly put back in her place the aristos and their comments in the Tatler piece.

      • Kalana says:

        If David Rocksavage really only married to produce an heir, then Rose was not in a full marriage and would be open to being someone’s mistress while Jecca did not have to do that. Rose is William’s type and from toff circles, married into a very wealthy and titled family, and is socially popular.

        The only things Kate will have over Rose is her future titles otherwise Kate would want to be Rose while I don’t think Rose would want to be Kate.

        Also if Rose pretended to be Kate’s friend because she was sleeping with William, essentially doing something similar to what Camilla tried and failed to do with Diana, then that level of personal betrayal would hurt far more than William having feelings for an ex.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I think someone like Rosa with aristocratic pedigree, intelligence, taste and Turnip-Toff sex appeal was what Baldy really wanted in a wife. Kate has very few (giving Kate the benefit of the doubt) or none of Rose’s good qualities (being truthful) .

      • Chloe says:

        @amy Bee: i kindly disagree. Williams “family man” image matters to him because its one of the few things he has over his father. I don’t think kate has anything to worry about because william won’t divorce her. But if she wanted something, this is what she could hold over his head quite nicely. After all, a divorce wouldn’t effect kate’s image half as much as it would effect williams. Especially if she remained faithful to him.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think it was Kate’s ego. Her nose was out of joint, her pride was suffering. She expected to swan in to Norfolk and become Queen of the Toffs. They already had a queen, Rose, and they weren’t moving her aside for Kate. Icing on the cake was the Rose/William affair.

      • Cee says:

        I think she felt truly threatened by someone who’s everything she’s ever wanted to be.

      • Me says:

        The Hanburys are about two generations further down the social climber track than the Middletons — same sort of ambitious mother and both daughters made big compromises to marry titles. If it’s actually true that David R. lives half the year in Paris with a boyfriend—Rose made a very, very big compromise to get her title and Houghton Hall.

        I think William’s mistresses are more out of sight, out of mind for Kate, but, Rose, mostly single, and better placed in the Norfolk social circle than Kate herself, must have been a tough pill to swallow. Also, given William’s sadistic, utterly selfish personality, I think he probably threatened Kate with Rose as a replacement. True or not, that probably hit Kate exactly where it hurts.

      • L84Tea says:

        @Me, I think you summed it up perfectly. It’s one thing for William to cheat in other countries with random women while on boy’s trips, but to cheat with someone so close to her own backyard. And not just any aristo, but Rose, the queen bee of the Norfolk set, the woman living the life Kate always wanted–rich, titled, carefree. That had to absolutely burn her up.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Rose’s grandmother is the daughter of the 10th Earl of Cavan. Lady Elizabeth Mary Lambart (16 October 1924 – 8 December 2016), married in 1949 to Mark Frederic Kerr Longman, President of the Longman Group Ltd. Elizabeth Lambart was in 1947 one of the eight bridesmaids in Princess Elizabeth’s marriage to Philip Glucksburg Mountbatten.

        Rose Hanbury’s family has been a member of the aristocracy for many generations. Rose becoming the became Marchioness of Cholmondeley was just a normal progression and a good choice for a spouse on David Cholmondeley’s part as Rose has done an excellent job running Houghton Hall and working for/with many charities in East Anglia.

      • Anance says:

        @Me “I think he probably threatened Kate with Rose as a replacement. True or not, that probably hit Kate exactly where it hurts.”

        I think that Rose thought that as well. The affair lasted over a year at least. IMO, the Middletons leaked it. Say what you will about Carole, she’s a smart cookie. She immediately knew that William ONLY has his family image, nothing more. At any rate, the rumor-mill *speculation* was that he would do just that. Surely, Pippa got wind of that.

        @BayTampaBay Thanks for providing the information on Rose’s lineage.

      • LadyHanbury says:

        @Me as BayTampaBay has succinctly explained, Rose came from a long line of daughters/sons of Earls/Marquesses and for generations her family has been socialising with the Royals. Remember, William and Harry used to party at Wembury Hall, the Hanbury’s residence, in their younger years. I read somewhere that Rose’s ancestor, an Earl was a courtier/Groom in waiting to King George, another ancestor was aide-de-camp to HM, etc. in short, the Middletons are no way two generations further down than the Hanburys. If anything, the Middleton are 300-400 years further down.

        FYI, the Middletons are not even, by any mean, a member of English gentry. In a classist society like England, the Middletons are really the shameless interlopers trying to overthrow an established Aristocrat. How dare them!

    • Becks1 says:

      I think it was Rose as well, because she really didn’t lose anything by the story being made public. Yeah maybe her name is out there now in a way it wasn’t 3 years ago, but she also probably has a lot more IG followers etc. if she was having an affair with William, then her husband and the rest of the Toffs probably knew, and that’s just how they roll. But Kate cutting her off wasn’t how they roll, so she leaked the story to show Kate who had the true power in the social circle.

      That said, I can see a scenario where the Midds leaked it, because it did backfire so spectacularly – I can see Mama Midd thinking she would just put it out there that Kate was the power player in Norfolk and she was cutting out a Marchioness etc. and then whole thing became about the affair, whoops, and the Middletons really overplayed their hands.

      I’m 95% sure it was the first scenario, but I don’t think the second is impossible.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think the news was leaking out, via toffs or staff, so Kate/Carole tried to get it out themselves with their own spin to get back at William. The weird story of Kate swimming in pearl earrings with the kids at a country club pool, when they have an indoor pool at home. The best most posh mummy ever types of things.

        They also outed Jecca’s secret marriage to someone at the Fail. It only got one tiny line, but it was caught and tweeted by the Midds (former) go-to Niraj Tanna, who said Jecca was William’s Camilla (non negotiable). The Midds have leaked for years against William when he does things they don’t like. They accept the cheating, but not the cheating going public.

      • Nic919 says:

        Dan Wootton has the first story about the fall out between Kate and Rose and based on later stories, I would say it’s the Middletons who leaked that story. Richard Kay was William’s attempt to fix things but just made it worse by really blowing up the talk of an affair.

        I do think Rose’s side ultimately shut down as much as they could, but the poor handling by KP made that difficult.

        I also think kate was concerned about Rose because William had a connection with her and something that could translate to a Camilla type long term affair. The other women we have heard mentioned, which includes a Danish gymnast, British athlete, restaurant owner daughter, were likely just short term flings and not a concern.

        That said I don’t think he’s been with Rose for a while but I do think there is someone else more long term. And I would trace it from when he was starting to zoom at Sandringham. I think he’s been moved into Wood Farm since Philip has moved out in 2020 because that when you can see William barely pretend to tolerate kate in public engagements.
        (Geography wise wood farm is literally down the road from Anmer so he’s not far from the kids when they are in Norfolk).

      • Kviby says:

        So, is the idea with her losing nothing that her spouse dgaf because he’s gay and they aren’t romantic? Id think rose would be the last person wanting that story leaked. But if it’s an open secret her husband is gay (also he’s old) I kind of get it. Like normally everyone would feel sorry for her (I do not get why she’s with that husband even if he’s only old and not gay, she is rich and cute and could do better) not being adored by an age-match, looks-match partner. So it would be a flex to be open that actually, William adores her and they are intimate. But still, she’s with her husband for some reason and he’s obviously pretending to be her loving regular husband to somebody (otherwise he could stay single or marry a man and in either case, have a surrogate carry his heir.) so is it in her best interest to upset mr. chumlys peace? I don’t get that. I find the whole thing odd and fascinating

      • notasugarhere says:

        David was a big catch for Rose, his family and position are very important in aristocratic circles. He’s good looking too, especially in comparison to William. Her sister Marina also married a older man, but she missed out on giving him his primary heirs because she’s his 2nd or 3rd wife.

      • Nic919 says:

        Most titles require descendants to be of the body so adoption is not possible for inheritance of the title and entailed lands. Also the concept of a surrogate wouldn’t haven’t existed when the title was created and so any child not carried by David’s spouse would not be considered legitimate. It does seem as though he was pretty open with Rose as to how things would be and so she probably is free to do as she wants as long as there aren’t any kids. That on its own would be a concern for Kate because Rose could be more than a fling and in terms of social status, she is everything kate wishes she could be. Rose was viewed as a threat by kate and as is her pattern with any woman she views as a threat, she goes after them. In Rose’s case though, she has the support of the aristos, not kate and the Tatler article made that clear.

      • Bex says:

        The Daily Fail has been hinting about William and Rose since 2014.

        Smoke, fire, and all that jazz…

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Marina Hanbury, Rose’s sister, is the 3rd wife of Ned Lambton, The 7th Earl of Durham. Marina and Ned have three children

        Ned Lambton’s 2nd wife was Catherine FitzGerald, an Anglo-Irish aristocrat, the daughter of Desmond FitzGerald, 29th Knight of Glin. There are no children from this marriage.

        Catherine FitzGerald is currently married to Dominic West. They have several children.

        Sometimes one really does need a chart to keep up with all that has gone on with aristocratic marriages.

    • Jais says:

      If Rose did initially leak the affair to put Kate in her place, I wonder if she now regrets it? She’s become so infamous on social media and that doesn’t seem to be how aristocrats roll. Don’t they value privacy? I mean she put Kate in her place for sure so maybe she doesn’t care.

      @becks1- ok we both just wrote something about how aristocrats roll at the same time lol. And yeah she does get the insta likes but still can’t help thinking it’s maybe more attention than anticipated if she did leak.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Rose being infamous on social media only ups the “take at the gate” of all the all the wonderful art exhibitions, house tours and charity shindigs at Houghton Hall.

        Someone is laughing (at Wiglet) and crying (for joy of success at Houghton Hall) at the same time as they stand in the deposit line at the bank.

      • Jais says:

        Also just reread the article and realized Kaiser wrote something about how aristocrats roll in the article and didn’t even realize that’s why it came out in my own post also. Subconsciously internalizing everything Kaiser writes😂

        @BTB- did houghton hall become more popular after the affair attention? Rose seems to do a really good job with and there’s even an art festival I think? Kate could never. Take credit yes, organize herself no.

      • tempest prognosticator says:

        All of them are vapid individuals who bore their partners and themselves. I don’t think Kate won the prize by marrying William and I certainly don’t think Rose won the prize by becoming his mistress. How ridiculous to act like Rose is somehow better or more clever than Kate because she slept with Kate’s husband.

      • Merricat says:

        Mmm, I think Rose’s better and more clever than Kate by the amount of work she is willing to do. Rose is a force.

      • equality says:

        @Merricat But do you know that Rose does this work? She could be like Kate-putting her face on other people’s labor.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ equality, I read an article about Rose and her property. Rose handles every aspect of the property, from the landscaping to the pieces of art that are displayed on Houghton Hall. She picks each individual artwork and spends hours determine where each pice will be placed. Rose also determines how the landscaping will accentuate each art piece. Rose is extremely hands on with every aspect, tour, and exhibit!! Rose is a master at every necessary roles that are required at Houghton Hall. Rose also has an incredible eye for up and coming artists as well!!

        Rose is the type of woman that Baldingham desperately wanted to marry, as she has the right breeding, intelligence and is incredibly talented and is hands on in every endeavor she creates.
        Mumbles McMutton is none of those qualities, as she has nothing to offer Baldingham OR the BRF. All she has done is given him heirs, nothing more.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Jais – Once Rose came on the scene, after having her children, the events at Houghton Hall for the public increased, social media presence plus general PR skyrocketed and the estate benefitted financially.

      • Gigi says:

        @equality: Rose is/was the regular patron of EACH before Kate came along and was appointed the royal patron. She actually did her job of fundraising and outreach, etc that Kate rarely, if ever, did.

    • LadyHanbury says:

      It was indeed leaked by people within the Aristo’s circle. Tom Sykes, great-grandson of Sir Mark Sykes, wrote in his dailybeast article that he first heard of #princewilliamaffair from “a daughter of an earl” during a dinner party. He then emphasized that if he had heard of a certain rumour at least three times, then there is some credibility to it. So, imho, the rumour was leaked to embarrass Kate and her family. Kate has nothing to her name but a “pristine white marriage”.

      • CQ says:

        Reading all the threads leads me to the conclusion that khate and her family in trying to run with the big dogs got barked back in place. They’ll never be the lead dog in charge.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        Absolutely leaked by the aristos to put Kate in her place. Ma Middleton would never want her daughter to be publicly humiliated like that, and Kate’s distraught was evidenced by her departure from public duties for a month following the leak.

      • JT says:

        I think the Middletons angle holds up. Dan Wootton wasn’t originally a reporter if I’m not mistaken, but after the Rose situation got out, all of a sudden he had all of the royal tea and that tea had a lot to do with H&M. He was given those exclusives to cover up for William and it coincided with KPs friendlier relations with the BM. Tom Sykes only confirmed the story after it was already old.

      • JT says:

        @Bothsides I think I’ve read the same article about her work. I also read a story about rose finding some old wallpaper in the attic and then working with the famous designer to remake the design. She is very involved with everything. If anyone is interested check out Houghton Hall on Instagram, it’s gorgeous. The recent light show on the grounds looks lovely. Rose absolutely does all of the work associated with the estate as most aristocratic ladies do, that’s one of their main jobs.

      • Feeshalori says:

        With such a magnificent estate as that, it needs to have a talented and dedicated chatelaine as Rose who can do it justice. I doubt Kate would apply herself so diligently to such a task or even develop the skills required for it.

      • LadyHanbury says:

        @JT Yes. My theory is that someone in the toff leaked it to one of RR/UK tabs, remember the aristos/higher ups in UK media/politician are basically bffs. The OG rumour is to pique an interest and send some sort of bat signal. Tom Sykes and shady Tatler articles are there to confirm everything and show those in the knows whom they support.
        Also, I agree with the work that Rose has been doing with Houghton Hall, the art exhibits, the wallpapers, and I believe she is also now working on furniture?? It is kinda funny considering a Fture Fture Kween is the one who graduated with an Art History degree. If I were KKKate, I’d be extremely embarrassed.

  3. Kalana says:

    So Twitter goss: they’re trying to change the prompt so when you type Prince William aff -the prompt is affordable housing! That’s why there’s been a rash of improbable stories about William thinking about converting unused royal properties into housing for the homeless.

    How much taxpayer money is being wasted because William won’t stop being community peen?

    • EllenOlenska says:

      There probably hoping the Stan’s will tie it back to sleeping with the homeless/Diana etc. the problem is…obviously William has done next to zero for the homeless for the past ten years.

      • Kalana says:

        Kate went to Centrepoint in 2011 and was caught on camera rolling her eyes at people. Does that count as doing something? She was actually there and showed personality!

    • Tessa says:

      Diana was deeply involved with Centrepoint, William has not done much with Centrepoint but “majored in” sports related charities, where he could watch games and go to after parties with the team.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Kalana, that’s where that photo/gif is from? Centrepoint? I’m familiar with the eye-rolling picture but didn’t realize that’s where it was taken. Kate is really a piece of work, good god.

      • Gigi says:

        @Lorelei the Kate eye roll gif is when she was told to wrap presents faster (stop preening and hyena laughing for the cameras) during the visit to Harlem.

  4. L Leti says:

    As someone on Instagram said, no wonder Diana snatched her looks back!

  5. Iris says:

    I will say, if I was Rose I’d be raging about these photos. They’re re-used constantly (obviously because they’re the only ones the press has with her and Kate in the same frame) but they’re so unflattering! She’s much, much better looking in other photos I’ve seen

    • Kalana says:

      There’s a more flattering picture from a state dinner when they’re walking in. Rose and Harry are behind Kate

      • Chloe says:

        Why would they pair rose with harry?

      • Kalana says:

        They did for at least two state dinners. Rose’s husband is quite high in status so maybe that is the protocol.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Go to Tatler and search “Rose Hanbury”. There are some absolutely stunning photographs of Rose to be found in the Tatler archives.

      • anotherlily says:

        Rose is the Marchioness of Cholmondeley. As the wife of a Marquess she ranks below a Duchess but higher than a Countess. Her husband also holds the hereditary position of Lord High Chamberlain which has ceremonial duties on state occasions.

        The state banquet was for the King and Queen of Spain and there is a list of the procession showing how they are ranked.

      • Becks1 says:

        Rose has obviously attended a few state dinners, but what was interesting was after the Spanish state dinner there were a few stories in Tatler about why Rose was there. Tatler knows why she was there. It’s not a secret. But they sure did take the opportunity to talk about it…….

      • KFG says:

        Rose’s grandmother was QE2 bridesmaid and lady in waiting. Rose is true aristocracy compared to the Windsors so she can’t be phased out and her marriage to the Marques is typical of royal mistresses, Charles’ mistress, Kanga was married to his friend, an earl. Don’t forget that Phillips longterm mistress and baby mama was also married to a titled man to cover up their love child.

      • Tigerlily says:

        @Kalana I think Rose is gorgeous. She never looks like she’s try-hard, it seems effortless. Gorgeous eyes(without heavy black pencil), love her hair when it’s down. I’ve never understood the put downs about her looks.

    • Scout says:

      Using that photo is clearly done on purpose. Kate has a triumphant look and Rose looks hideous.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        But Rose’s Valentino dress looks killer.

      • L84Tea says:

        That photo always makes me laugh because it sums up the difference between Kate and Rose so well. Kate looks perfectly polished–sparkly gown and not a hair out of place. She looks almost too perfect, like she tried very hard to look good. But Rose on the other hand is the true picture of a REAL aristo. Her dress is a bit quirky, fun, and expensive (very Rose) and her hair looks like she just quickly pulled it back with hardly a look in the mirror. Very “just threw on this old thing”. The way I understand it is that’s how aristo women really are. They’re not the ones with floor to ceiling new furniture and window and treatments–their homes are filled with old rugs and sofas covered in dog hair. They’re not going to show up at a dinner looking like a shiny fashion plate fresh from the hair salon. They’re just going to yank their hair back and put something on. Kate looks smug in this photo because she thinks she’s got it all right, when actually she’s got it pretty wrong. I look at that photo and I see a cool, calm cucumber in Rose and an eager try-hard in Kate.

      • Seraphina says:

        @L84Tea, you are right. I looked at the photo and it was strange who thrown together Rose looked. And your comment brought to mind an article I read stating the same about Camilla. She was always thrown together as well.

    • Jezz says:

      No flattering of her face, but that dress is delicious.

    • Tessa says:

      Rose has the elegance Kate will never have.

  6. Kaydee says:

    Sussexsquad has some interesting news about Simon Case- “ #SimonCase #PrinceWilliam right hand man was listed #JefferyEpstein’s Black Book. It is believed that he was the one who brokered the deal with the Uk press not to report on #PrinceWilliamAffair in 2019 and used Meghan as the sacrifice to the press!”

    Interesting…. William has so many bones to bury- there’s a multitude of reasons they went crying to Twitter.

  7. Kalana says:

    Also, US and other foreign outlets? You guys are not bound by the super injunction. Stop protecting Baldimort. Is this the Duke of Windsor and Wallace Simpson all over again?

    • Scout says:

      Someone on Twitter said that all of the media companies are owned by the same people.

      And (I think) they don’t want to anger the royals by publishing this story because all of their magazines, etc… will be frozen out. At least that was my interpretation.

      • Nic919 says:

        There are plenty of American media companies not linked to the UK. They probably don’t want to burn the bridges to a future future king. So it will take an independent non UK based company to publish the story.

        Also, UK citizens should maybe get pissed about the existence of a super injunction. No one should be able to hide things like this. That would take legislative change and the corrupt Tories are beholden to the elites.

    • Courtney B says:

      The us and European media covered Edward and Wallis. It was just the uk press who hushed it up which is why it landed like a thunderclap.

    • Ashley says:

      I don’t know if this is as global as one might think. Here in Canada #PrinceWilliamAffair was trending on Twitter for a full 24 hours after news outlets were reporting that it was made invisible elsewhere.

  8. Noki says:

    So in these previous pictures here, do you think it was before or after the affair!!??I am guessing either way Kate did not know during this event, because why on earth would she attend and be all smiley with the mistress.

    • Concern Fae says:

      Because Rose’s husband, the Marquess of Cholmondeley, is also the Lord High Chamberlain, who has very specific, important roles to play in various royal ceremonies. He thus gets invited to all State dinners, with very high ranking in the protocol.

      Even without the Lord High Chamberlain gig, a Marquess ranks below a Duke, but above an Earl. So the Marchioness would officially rank reasonably close to Kate just about everywhere they went. Because the aristo set is snobbish about the Windsors in general, and Kate in particular, she could probably make Kate’s life pretty miserable if she chose. (And Kate let her.)

    • Alexandria says:

      I’ve wondered this but she tends to exaggerate for the cameras all the time. Also she posed for Phillip’s funeral so why not pose here in a neverending attempt to get better pics than Rose and anyone else? This picture is always trending when the affairs come up, and it’s a really unflattering picture of Rose.

    • Nic919 says:

      Kate can’t act that well. The Tatler story states she found out when she was pregnant with Louis. She was queening it here because she has rose do all the work for a charity and she’s higher rank and royal patron taking credit for it.

      Also it’s so remarkable how much thinner kate looks now and it’s not like she wasn’t very thin in that photo.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      I looked it up and these were from summer 2016, so before the affair (maybe). Rose had given birth to her daughter a few months prior to this fundraiser event.

    • Anance says:

      B/c that is required of royal wives. Kate got some rewards for her silence including the Order of Victoria (I think that’s the name), a complete turnaround by her husband, and denials by the parties involved. The Queen accompanied her on a walkabout to show the Queen’s support for Kate as the preferred woman to be William’s wife. She may have picked up other stuff, like Diana’s earrings for the BAFTA ceremony.

      Moreover, during the Sandringham walk to church, Kate and Will were in the lead. The Middletons blocked Rose from moving closer so Rose stayed at the back of the line. The Marquess had an incredible smirk on his face as his wife looked confused and hurt.

      Like I mentioned earlier, Carole is smart + I’ll add a great negotiator. She knows all these bennies don’t matter to the BRF, but they sure put Rose in her place. Carole also knew — THIS WAS THE TIME — to ask for stuff.

    • LadyHanbury says:

      She was all smiley because it was her goal to be accepted by the Aristo sets. KKKate thought she can flex her royal duchess title, even though most aristos they look down upon the actual german interlopers posing as “British Royal Family”. That’s why she was smirking.

  9. Scout says:

    Because Twitter is in the pocket of Big Keen.

    • Kalana says:

      And an Archie conspiracy video was being promoted on Youtube.

    • Sid says:

      From what I have seen the Cambridges never seem to trend organically for their events. It’s only ever one of those paid ads on the sidebar disguised to make you think they are trending. I think KP puts a lot of money into that, and Twitter wants to keep that money coming in.

  10. Selene says:

    Meghan in the interview said verbatim “I can see what layers may be at play here”. We focused on the issue of polarity, but behind the scenes she had access to so much info that she didn’t and still hasn’t relayed to the media. As time goes by I am on awe of how respectful and measured she kept her conposure.

  11. BayTampaBay says:

    I do not think or believe that Lady Iris Marina Aline Cholmondeley is Baldy’s daughter. I 100% believe that her father is David Rocksavage…aka…The Marquess of Cholmondeley.

    I also believe 100% there was a long running affair that was just a “fling” for Rose but was much more than a “fling” for Baldy. However, I could be totally off-base.

    • TheOriginalMia says:

      I agree. Rose had a bit of fun, but she’s no more interested in marrying William than any other aristo. William raged because their affair was exposed and ended.

      If any child is William’s, my bet is on Jecca’s son.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I don’t buy that one, mostly because the Jecca/Jonathan get together was so messy. Wasn’t he married when they met, and ooopsie pregnancy? They married quickly that Sept/Oct, kept it all secret until he outed it at a Nat Geo party that she was home with the baby. Jecca always feels like the one who was too smart to sleep with William, but she knows how to control him to get whatever she wants (support for her charity).

      • Tessa says:

        Kate could not stop William from going to Jecca’s brother’s wedding and leave her to go solo at Peter Phillip’s wedding. And William went solo to Jecca’s wedding. I don’t think Kate has much clout in keeping William from going to events where Jecca is there.

    • Chloe says:

      I think you could be right because it would explain why kate tried to phase her out.

    • Bettyrose says:

      ITA! The primary purpose of her marriage is to provide heirs, and otherwise it seems she can do as she pleases, so why would she screw that up having Wills baby?

    • Sid says:

      I agree Bay. Also, as much as people say Willileaks wouldn’t want a spouse to outshine him, I do think he would want a spouse that would do enough work to reflect well on him. Someone like Rose, with her aristo-adjacent background and all the projects she does at Houghton Hall and in the general Norfolk set would be perfect. But wisely, all the ladies who actually had something going for themselves told him “no thank you” and ran at the idea of being future QC.

      • JT says:

        @Sid I agree because a Rose type of woman is who he wanted in the first place. He wanted a beautiful aristo woman and all of what entails with that sort of woman. He got Kate and all of this spin that he didn’t want a woman to outshine him is just the natural answer as to why he married Kate, who is unremarkable. Houghton Hall is gorgeous, very successful, and that’s all down to Rose. She curates that entire property and she is very involved in the charity scene where she lives. A woman like Rose would make William look extremely good, because your choice of wife is a reflection of you. Just like Meghan and all of her accomplishments and beauty make Harry look amazing. When H&M got together it was said that people thought that Harry was punching above his weight. What does William have in Kate? If Mumbles wasn’t so propped up by the media, most people would see that William got dud and is nothing to be proud of considering his future role of being king.

      • Bettyrose says:

        I have mixed feelings about whether Harry was “punching above his weight.” Young Harry was a bit of a clown but in the years leading up to meeting Meghan he was really coming into his own. And dayum the looks followed didn’t they? They seem to be so equally matched.

      • JT says:

        @Bettyrose I personally don’t think that Harry was punching above his weight, but going back to the coverage when they were discovered, that was the commentary. A self made millionaire, with a successful career and blog, along with her charity work was impressive, especially if people were thinking that Harry would end up with “a dim blonde conservative.” Some of the rota were even saying that even royal sources at the time thought Harry was a bit too ambitious in trying to get Meghan. But H&M really do compliment each other well and together they have created a powerful brand. In contrast, nobody has ever said that William was punching above his weight by marrying Kate.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        “Also, as much as people say Willileaks wouldn’t want a spouse to outshine him, I do think he would want a spouse that would do enough work to reflect well on him.”

        I keep thinking that a Sophie or Camilla type would be ideal: someone who’s at least competent enough to do the bare minimum and is willing to do the ‘work’, but also isn’t *too* much of a standout to pull attention and bruise his delicate ego.

      • Feeshalori says:

        In Finding Freedom and other coverage at the time, Harry said of his first meeting with Meghan that he had to up his game if he wanted to be with her. She was successful in her own right and in a different league other than his usual girlfriends and he recognized that. He was willing to put in the effort and consequently we have the power couple that we see now.

      • windyriver says:

        “I do think he would want a spouse that would do enough work to reflect well on him.”

        @Sid, etc., I agree. And this is what I find so puzzling about Kate (and the Middletons). I could understand laziness early in the marriage, because at that point Will had no interest in fulfilling his role either. But as time went on, he (and she) were getting more and more pressure to step up. She knew what he was like re: cheating, and if she decided she was going to stay in the marriage, why not do things to make herself more valuable, and make the prospect of actual divorce more difficult for him?

        She had examples of people to emulate all around her (e.g., the other working royals). She’s no Diana, and wasn’t going to outshine Will with charisma, but could’ve worked on skills to make herself useful in public settings. Instead of copying Diana’s clothes, why not copy what she did to turn herself from a shy 19-year old into an effective complement to Charles? Instead, Kate’s put her effort into photo ops, which have only made her into a PR/media apparition, and her superficiality must be apparent to anyone personally interacting with her (e.g., Dr. Jill). She has nothing to offer, and when the BM stop propping her up, she’ll be in real jeopardy. She correctly sensed Rose was in some way a serious threat, just like something about Meghan was a serious threat, but fell back on her usual MO of trying to tear down her “opponent”, rather than make concrete changes to better compete.

        Whatever Will previously felt about his role, Harry’s success made his future as king much more important to him. He’s lacking in the skills department himself, and I imagine him wanting a consort to help him shine. He’s already restless, the kids are getting older; wouldn’t be surprised if he’s ready to dump the family man image in the not too distant future, especially once TQ is gone.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      I agree, I don’t think any of her children are Will’s. I don’t put much stock in Jecca’s kids being his either. IF there are any outside children, it’s likely with someone who isn’t known to the public.

  12. M says:

    The most interesting thing to me is that it seems to be an open secret. I think Kate found out, made Willy give her another baby as a compromise, only to discover he was still boinking Rose. I think that’s what Meghan was referring to during the Oprah interview. Or maybe he quit with Rose but she found out about another woman. Either way, I don’t think Rose has been the only one, and I think it’s gone on the whole time they’ve been together.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Baby #3 was likely for the cheating on the skiing holiday. The Rose affair wasn’t outed until Spring 2019.

    • Nic919 says:

      I believe Tatler stated the affair was revealed when Kate was already pregnant with Louis in 2018. (And likely why she popped off on Meghan about tights).

      That said it’s not likely that he just cheats with one woman. There are likely multiple flings interspersed with the more long term affairs, and the one with Rose concerned kate enough to try to stop it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        That’s the interesting kernel that many on here have speculated. The affair with Rose was over, but William considers her an ongoing confidant and friend. And with that is Rose and David allowing William to conduct multiple other affairs at Houghton.

      • Rapunzel says:

        Nota- Rose and David allowing Will to use HH as a base for affairs fits with a new theory of mine that Will is lazy even in finding sidepieces. They have to be brought to him next door.

  13. Southern Fried says:

    Yeah, it is still shocking the royals are so lacking in the PR dept. Any of us could do better. Just how genuinely stupid are these people. Affordable housing is a big fat friggen lie or joke, right? PWilly has no interest in poor people’s problems. Has some other Royal ever talked about affordable housing, ever? Affair changed to affordable just seems so random unless I’ve missed something.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Is not discussing affordable housing a political issue just like paid paternity leave? Why does the British Royal family keep trying to talk out of both sides of their mouth at the same time? Do they really think that the British public is THAT stupid?

      • Anance says:

        Yes, when it comes to Royals, a sizable percentage of the British public take Royal random comments as the “Word of God.”

  14. Eurydice says:

    My tin foil tiara is still telling me this is an ideal way to get around the injunctions. A twitterstorm is news all by itself. News outlets pick it up and talk about it. You can feed it by throwing out more random bits for the twitter camps to chew on, those who know details can reveal them anonymously and there’s more fodder for the news outlets. And then the BM can come into it – “we’re not reporting on William; we’re reporting about how other people are reporting about William.”

    • Kaydee says:

      Except they aren’t picking it up and talking about it.

    • EllenOlenska says:

      Yes…and they likely won’t pick it up without unshakable proof. Which is hard to get. “ she knows” which publishes on yahoo is the most detailed I saw when I reversed the search and started with “ rose hanbury and Prince William affair”

      • Eurydice says:

        I searched for Prince William twitter news and got several articles. The thing is they don’t need proof as long as the story is about Twitter and what people are saying there. It’s the same tactic they’ve been using on Meghan. Get people talking about an old story and then report on how people are talking about it.

      • JT says:

        @Ellenolenska according the Scottish journalist, and many others, they already have unshakeable proof of William’s affairs and his other shady dealings, they just can’t print them and that’s the problem. Even Tom Bradby talked about serious allegations that cannot be printed do to legal issues. It’s an open secret amongst the BM but the legal injunction is keeping their hands tied.

      • Nic919 says:

        Tessa Murray also retweeted a video discussion she had earlier in the year where she said the press in the UK are all aware about infidelity on William’s part but that none are reporting it. And she said that Meghan has been used as a target instead so she could see why Harry got mad and just left.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “BM but the legal injunction is keeping their hands tied.”

        What legal injunction? When was the injunction issued?

      • JT says:

        @Baytampa the Super legal injunction was imposed shortly after the affair rumors with Rose got out and it has been in place ever since. It is a rare type of injunction as well because journalists can’t even discuss the fact that there is an injunction in place. It’s also very expensive to maintain so it is really only available to the very rich in the UK. It’s interesting because in the past you had to argue that whatever was printed about you wasn’t true before you could get the injunction in place, but now it doesn’t matter. The rich can impose the super injunction regardless of veracity all in the name of “privacy.” These type of orders are actually pretty controversial in UK media because it only protects the rich and powerful, it severely limits press freedom, and the placement of these super injunctions is starting to get out of control. I read a story in the Times for a financial crimes case in the UK, where the defendant got a super injunction that prohibited the media from identifying him as a banker. In a financial crimes case. Even though he actually was a banker.

  15. Brit says:

    This open secret isn’t going to stay “hidden” for long and I guarantee that the Mail losing that lawsuit and the media not getting access to Meghan and Harry and leaks anymore has sent people over the edge. You can tell these people are ready to shout from the roof tops and a lot of the anger towards Harry and Meghan is also about William and Kate gagging the media. They’re pissed that they ruined any chance of a working relationship with the Sussexes and have no access to the more interesting and dynamic royals but they have to hide and kiss the behinds of royals who are bland and have tea on them that could make them millions. I would hate to be William and Kate right now because it seems like the relationship with the palace and media is reaching a breaking point.
    That Jason Knauf foolishness was KP’s last attempt to appease the media and it backfired because they still lost. I don’t think the media is going to treat the Cambridge’s with kid gloves any longer.

    • Kalana says:

      But then the monarchy would lose popular support and the Rota would be out of a job. They’ll be less gentle but I don’t think they’ll ever really unleash against the Cambridges. William successfully cozied up to the right-wing in Britain to save his own skin.

      • Brit says:

        The rota care about money, not the monarchy as a whole. Most of those reporters don’t even like that family. He may have cozied up with them but he’s still not making them money. He can’t provide any leaks about the Sussexes anymore, which is why that family is desperate to get them all back on UK soil because you can bet the media has been pressuring KP especially. He and his wife are not interesting at all and all their projects/Tv specials have effectively failed. If the papers can turn on Boris and various politicians, what makes the royals so special? Money will always win out for these people.

        William gave the Sussexes to the press and have effectively done a lot to appease them but they still we’re in a BBC documentary exposing his leaking to the press. If anything, he is trapped because they have all the cards.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The Rota is already furious at William for giving an exclusive to a US outlet, People Magazine. William isn’t playing the game by the rules they agreed to.

      • Sid says:

        The rota rats were all over the Cambridges with snarky, critical articles for years and their jobs were still secure. Meghan’s arrival is what switched the narrative on the Cambridges. It would cost the the rota rats nothing to switch the narrative back.

    • aquarius64 says:

      I think the BM is a ticking time bomb too. It backed the wrong royal couple and it sees the US press reaping the benefits. By siding with Bullii-am any shred of a professional reputation is gone, but that was at their choosing. I think the bomb will go off, especially if there are legal consequences for their choices.

      • Brit says:

        Seeing Harry and Meghan thrive and giving access to Oprah and Ellen has pissed them off. Going after the Sussexes was always foolish. They should’ve stopped when they had the chance. Chris Ship has said he was going to stop covering them but he hasn’t. You can tell there is some regret because the Cambridge’s are not cutting it. All they have managed to do is make the Sussexes more determined and they aren’t afraid of them like the rest of that family.

  16. Jan says:

    They were pictures on Twitter yesterday showing the Queen, Diana and unable with their husband’s mistresses.

  17. TheOriginalMia says:

    Twitter can shut down the hashtag, but nothing is truly gone from the Internet. People still talk and share their thought regarding Norfolk Community Peen aka Baltimore aka TOB. If he won’t stop, then some Regular Joe is going to expose him for the raging hypocrite he is. Twitter did nothing but amplify the talk by suppressing the hashtag (if they did). I could still see it and access posts under it.

  18. CE says:

    So glad to come here and read the comments! Did not know Jecca was the secret baby mama. Happy new years Kaiser!

  19. Scout says:

    I am fascinated with the idea that Rose outed herself as W’s mistress in retaliation for Kate trying to pull rank and cut her out of the upper circles. Talk about pushing the nuclear button!

    And I remember reading that W was trying to get them to work things out so that they could all stay in their social circle together. I’m betting there were some ugly, yelling, cursing conversations between Kate/Rose and Kate/William.

    And wouldn’t William’s big ole fancy huge house have it’s own gym?

    • Bettyrose says:

      The whole thing is such an interesting study into aristo protocol. Like, Rose has zero to
      lose being outed as a mistress because she’s fulfilled her wifely obligations and affairs that follow the rules aren’t scandalous in their set.

      • Julia K says:

        Quite right. Once they have produced the heir and the spare, they are both free to discretely do as they please. Discretion is the word here and Kate is not playing the game.

    • Jay says:

      I mean, historically, that’s sort of been the deal with aristocrats, especially when it comes to royal mistresses – everybody’s supposed to get along as if nothing is happening, I dunno, you might even have been flattered if the future king was interested in your wife as a mark of favour.

      The Tatler piece hinted that Kate’s commoner background made her unfamiliar with these “rules”, so she made the “mistake” of trying to ice out her rival and got put in her place quite soundly.

      • Seraphina says:

        History has shown queens of royal blood could not phase out a mistress. I think Kate knew the unspoken rules. Who knows why she may tried to phase Rose out, but Kate was put back in her place.
        I think I read it somewhere above (forgive me for not giving credit to the right person – it’s been a whirl wind of reading) but I agree that Kate got ahead of herself in what her position is and well, now she knows.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I doubt it was Rose, because she didn’t need to. The Toffs sided with her, wholeheartedly, against Kate. No need for Rose to make this public in order to win their support – she already had it.

      • Jais says:

        @nota- you mentioned upthread that the Middletons leaked jecca’s secret wedding. I’m fascinated and had never heard this but am really curious now.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        notasugarhere, I doubt Rose was behind that leak, too. I recall that shortly after that leaked Rose showed up to some kind of “do” without her wedding rings and there was a lot of conjecture about it. I think that was Rose clapping back at Keen/Ma Mid for leaking the affair. I suspect those two would have had a bad moment or two thinking Rose would be free.

      • A says:

        I don’t think Rose did it to win support. She did it to make Kate look bad, bc Kate was attempting to ice her out of the Turnip Toff circle. She doesn’t care one way or another about the rumours of an affair getting out there, bc she’s secure in her life and her marriage. She doesn’t need to project an image of a happy marriage out into the world. Kate and William do, particularly Kate.

        Putting out a story that would effectively threaten if not shatter the image of them as a happy family in the eyes of the public has more consequences for Kate than for Rose, whose husband probably already knew about the affair (and probably has affairs of his own).

    • A says:

      Nah. Rose and Kate would never get into a shouting match. Rose would think that sort of confrontation is beneath her, and if Kate tried to engage her, it would just make Kate look bad.

      I do believe, or would like to believe, that William and Kate probably had multiple screaming matches with each other after Kate found out about the affair, and when the details of it were leaked to the press.

      The rapprochement between Kate and Rose that you’re referring to was probably not even a real truce. It was probably just someone trying to convince Kate that icing out Rose was a bad idea, and just not done, and that as FFQ, she needs to pull it together and put on a happy front for the world. That was the reason for the pap walk to the church. In reality, I don’t think Kate talks to Rose or hangs out with her at all, not beyond the surface level niceties these aristocrats engage in.

  20. equality says:

    I couldn’t care less if Will slept with every other woman in Norfolk. What is infuriating is that Twitter, at the least, made an effort for him. They let many hateful hashtags about others go on and on. You can report them for being “misleading” or “targeted harassment” and no action is taken besides a note on your timeline that “you reported”.

  21. Jay says:

    Changing “Prince William Affair” to “Prince William Affordable Housing” is kind of funny, I have to admit. Don’t really think it will work though, as he’s just “considering learning how to go about it” when (I say if) he inherits his father’s properties and title, so as always he’s looking for advanced credit for being keen.

    But I think if we all focus on joking about the affair(s?), what about the other part of the Scottish reporter’s statement where he said he wished news media would just name William as the “royal racist” instead of protecting him as they did with Rose. That seems to confirm that it was William who asked about Archie’s skin colour, and it seems to be an open secret as well. I wonder if they have any ideas on how to neutralize “Prince William racist”?

    • Shawna says:

      Ding ding ding!!! The Rose stuff even got us sidetracked from that huge hint! It’s a strange world where the Toffs’ rejection of Kate to protect Rose now ends up in Rose being invoked in ways that take PwT’s scent off the “royal racist” story.

    • damejudi says:

      Twitter users should just keep switching it up.

      -Prince William cheater
      -Prince William rose garden
      -Prince William wandering sceptre

      I have no doubt there are dozens of clever variations on this theme. Let PWT and his team try to whack-a-mole all of them on social media.

  22. Rapunzel says:

    Okay, so here’s what I’ve decided I believe:

    1. I believe the Middletons released the story about freezing out Rose. Rose would not do something so gauche. And it’s just like the Keen one and her Mrs. Bennet mother to brag about how Buttons McJazzHands “iced out” the Lord High Chamberlain’s wife…all while exercising her “power” over Will by poking a bit at his secret. And, of course, the whole thing backfired…which is another sign of a Katie Keen plot.

    2. Will does not have a secret love child(ren). Dudes like him would force an abortion rather than have a hidden kid somewhere. The only possible exception I make for this Jecca. I think Will really wanted to marry her and loves her and would want a child with her. I do not believe that Will has ever had serious feelings for any other woman. Even Rose, I think that was a typical fling and Kate just got pissed that he was with her neighbor/friend that has similar status and is more well liked by the aristocracy.

    • Nic919 says:

      I agree that he likely doesn’t have secret children with any of the long term affairs. They are part of his circle and it would be impossible to hide. (I still wonder about the Jecca story ). However, he doesn’t restrict himself to just aristo women and that is where the risk lies. There is always a chance that a fling decided that having a child of the future king would not be the worst thing. And it’s doubtful that William tries too hard to make sure that it would never happen. He’s relying on the women to take care of that.

      And the Rose story was totally kate acting like she had more power then she did, after all she had the third child William openly said he never wanted after the Verbier ski trip came out. But this time she was shot down by Rose and by William. It’s why she hid away in spring 2019 until she got her ribbon. A fit was pitched and the queen had to intervene.

    • The Recluse says:

      The Duke of Edinburgh had kids on the side that we won’t find out about for ages, so it wouldn’t be surprising if there was a child or two from William, but you’d think he’d have more sense than that.

  23. Kit says:

    I read when Kate and William where at a wedding in de Swiss Alps l believe , when she was pregnant with George, that Will and his upper crust friends ignored her for de day, she was left very much by herself and she was more or less told that she was only there because of William, shortly after she did not attend weddings with William blaming non attendance on pregnancy !!

    I have been in these circles, if you are not one of them you never will be ever, Mrs Middleton should of known that, everyone knows that , except l suppose she didn’t care , de sad thing is most of them don’t even have a education or a bean between them !!

    • notasugarhere says:

      That wedding was no different than the dozens of weddings they attended together before marriage. She has always only been invited because of William.

      • Chrissy (The Original) says:

        I also remember that there were also weddings where he sent her by herself while he was doing god knows what.

      • Rapunzel says:

        Chrissy- true. She met the queen for the first time while solo at a wedding because he skipped out to another event, iirc.

      • Kalana says:

        I think William skipped the wedding because there would be public photos and even then there was a possibility he would break up with Kate. I just don’t believe that was the first time Kate met the Queen.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        William skipped Peter & Autumn’s wedding to go to Jecca’s brother Batain’s wedding in Kenya. Eyebrows were definitely raised. In W & K’s engagement interview, Kate herself states Peter & Autumn’s wedding was the first time she met the Queen. That was in 2008. William didn’t even introduce Kate to the Queen himself.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        ^^Didn’t William try to pretend like he was there in the engagement interview too? I think he made some passing statement acting like he was at Peter’s wedding to introduce her when we all know he wasn’t.

      • Nic919 says:

        Yes William lied about being there. Because it is absurd to skip the wedding of your first cousin close in age to you to go to the wedding of the sibling of a woman who he claims was only ever his friend. It’s not even like this sibling was purported to be William’s own friend. Just sending kate off on her own to meet the queen for the first time really showed how little he cared about her.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @Beach Dreams, yes, like Nic919 said, he made it sound like he was there. His interjection was kind of funny in a nonsense way. He claimed the Queen wanted to meet Kate for some time and that the Queen came over (at the wedding) to meet her. That’s not how meets with the Queen work. Yep, Bill, your grandmother, the Queen, waltzed on over for Their engagement interview was pretty cringey. Similar to Charles & Diana. The opposite of Harry & Meghan’s.

        The one positive-you could understand what Kate was saying. She hadn’t changed her accent yet.

    • Tara says:

      So did she not attend the Pelly wedding in Memphis? You know, where William got so drunk, he fell and chipped his tooth.

      I read on another site that the Aristo’s unwritten motto when it comes to non aristos is “you can befriend us but you’ll never be one of us” You’re right, Carole should have known and maybe would have been better off mingling in the new money circles.

      • JT says:

        @Kalana Someone here* said that William didn’t even attend his own rehearsal dinner, of course he wouldn’t be there when Kate met the queen. This is William’s M.O. he does not give a damn about Kate and never has. I believe he is only still with her because he hasn’t figured out how to get rid of her, while keeping his “reputation” in tact yet. *Maybe it was Baytampa or Notasugar, possibly both. But this info really stuck with me because how little do you think of your soon to be wife to not even show up for the rehearsal dinner?

      • Nic919 says:

        There was actually a story of Harry attending the rehearsal dinner for William which has since been scrubbed. I mean willy doesn’t have a job so why couldn’t he show to his own rehearsal dinner.

      • notasugarhere says:

        William may have showed for a meal, but he didn’t show to the majority of the rehearsals themselves. Harry was required to step in and play the role of William at most of the rehearsals. William claimed to be ‘working’ and couldn’t get away.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Rose gardening is very time consuming work!

    • Tessa says:

      Jecca was even Guest of Honor at william’s birthday party with Kate seated in the back of the room.

  24. Kit says:

    Rapunzel, completely agree, l also read ‘do a lot of reading here’ that William and Jecca have a emotional connection, it was reported that Kate was concerned about it, any issues he had he went straight to Jecca to talk and discuss!!!!
    Poor Kate’ always on de outside looking in !!

    No one to blame but herself …..

  25. LaraW” says:

    What I don’t understand is what incentive does Twitter have to suppress the hashtag? And how did William convince them to do it? It doesn’t make sense to me and it raises a lot more worrying questions about what other hashtags and tweets Twitter had been deleting.

    Are we sure that this isn’t an external game, where troll farms were employed to report accounts, inundate Twitter with complaints, and manipulate the algorithm that calculates trending hashtags to change the search results? Twitter has to have at least partially automated the process to handle complaints— manipulating that algorithm makes more sense to me than someone at KP demanding that Twitter shut down a hashtag and Twitter acquiescing.

    My tin foil tiara theory— the hashtag deletion was another Russian troll farm campaign/experiment.

  26. Rapunzel says:

    Okay, so to me, Rose was an affair of proximity. She was close. Will is lazy. He sh-t where he lives.

    For real, I think Will doesn’t do work, even in finding mistresses. I suspect he grabs who he can. Notice the story about the mom at the gym? Again, proximity. Not feelings.

    I don’t think Rose meant much. He just couldn’t be bothered to find someone else.

    Jecca is probably the only one who means a thing. But the helicopter stuff…that’s a sign he’s working to meet whoever he has now. Could be he’s realized Jecca ain’t having him and found someone he really does care about. Someone who’s got him off his ass.

    • Julia K says:

      Guys like William who have money and status do not do the work of finding a girlfriend. They have a wingman who approaches the lady and announces that his friend finds her attractive and would she be interested in meeting him? It’s all negotiated and there is no paper or electronic trail.

    • A says:

      Pretty much this. William is rumoured to have a “type”, which is usually women like Rose, or even Kate. They’re typically women who he’s known for a while, who run in the same circles as him, who are sporty and kind of fun and always up for a good time. Usually they’re aristocratic women. But this is not a man who flies around the world for a lay, that’s for sure (although he won’t turn down an excuse to do that if he gets the opportunity either).

  27. Catherine says:

    I don’t think it was Rose who leaked. I think the affair became known because William’s “dinners” at Houghton Hall while Kate was away we’re too frequent to ignore. William was arrogant and careless and got too deeply involved with a convenient mistress. And probably didn’t care if people knew because he figured his secrets would be kept. Aristos love to gossip but they don’t confirm. The story broke in 2019 because of Kate’s actions not because of the affair itself. The aristos would not have appreciated being put in a position to ostracize Rose. In their world, the mistress if discreet is not a problem. Even though Kate outranks her. Kate status is tied to William so they don’t respect her on her own. Rose was well established and well liked in Aristo circles. Her grandmother who is friends with the Queen is well respected. Kate thought she could throw her weight around. Kate has always tolerated Williams wandering eye but I think in 2018, she was feeling threatened by Meghan’s greater popularity in public and with Rose’s greater popularity privately among the Aristos. And that is what led to her trying to ostracize Rose. The original story emphasized how uncomfortable Kate actions made the Aristos. IMO. That’s why they talked in 2019. They resented Kate’s actions. The affair was whispered about but nothing confirmable was given. The story about Kate attempts to ostracize Rose were detailed. In a way what Kate did make it okay for them talk about it because from their perspective she is the one who stepped out of line. IMO. That is why Kate had to swallow her pride and go along with the Church walk photo op with Rose. The BRF was trying to kill those rumors and Kate was required to show a public sign of “friendship” in order to counter her attempts to cut Rose out.

    • Janethetrain says:

      This! Kate put up with a lot of shit to be Queen. The idea that William might not hold up his end made the Middletons scared. Meghan’s ease to the job and quick acceptance by the Queen had to just grate at the Middletons too, since they all value themselves based on some bullshit hierarchy.
      Toffs, end up pulling a not today honey on Kate and then William resents her more.

      But Kate gets that sash. 😜

      Since this story they ramped up the Kate being/becoming/preparing to be Queen on overload. Nobody cares if the Cambridges divorce, but people are starting to care that they are paying for their legal bullshit. And that the crown’s legal bullshit is facilitating abuse.

      I think the missing piece of all of this is Charles v. William. The calming down on helicopters story is from Charles…not the Queen. He would have known the implications he was lending too. We know that ‘the Crown’ is making Charles worried again and being a family man is the one and only thing William has above him. Charles and Camilla are even more charismatic than the Cambridges.

      Williams shift to “affordable housing” did two things. Change the search by using a different word starting with aff, and point out all of the homes Charles is spending on. I also suspect that William is not happy with Charles’ plan to minimize William’s rightful kingdom.

      When Charles screws up the bots start pumping out stories about his workload. But Williams first reaction was to have them pump out #williamisaking and other ridiculousness. It took him a whole day to change to affordable housing?

      Just incompetent.

      • Kalana says:

        “William is a king” reminds me of that incredibly creepy open letter Dan Wooton wrote to William. Clearly Wooton knew what William wanted to hear.

      • MsIam says:

        I agree. I think that because Kate could do nothing to push Rose out, she and her family set their sights on making Meghan into the devil, and by extension Harry. But that backfired on them too because now just about the whole family is tainted by accusations of racism and bullying. Combine that with Andrew’s stench and they all look horrible. Just in time for another season of The Crown, lol. It couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch imo.

    • The Recluse says:

      Some guy on Twitter stated that they saw William in that neighborhood where Rose lives at least three times a week. Stated that even with a mask you could tell that it was him.

      • A says:

        Uhhh, no, that’s not quite what that guy said. That guy insinuated that William was being seen indulging in the local “dogging” circles. “Dogging” in this case = having public sex in a field while other people watch.

  28. Kaydee says:

    Hold on a second- I just read that rose got engaged one day and then married the very next day. Who does that? Then apparently she gave birth to twins 3 months later. So was she pregnant and too far gone so had to find a husband in need of an heir and deal
    Was struck? This all does seem very very odd and shady.

    • Sid says:

      I will say that the twins look exactly like Rose’s husband, the Marquess so I don’t question that. I think it was one of those things where they were hooking up, the pregnancy happened, and it made perfect sense to get married so his heirs would be legitimate and could therefore inherit, and she would get a well-respected title and free reign over Houghton Hall.

    • Jaded says:

      Nothing shady at all, they *announced* their engagement the day before getting married to avoid media scrutiny. She was 4-1/2 months pregnant at the time and they had been together as a couple since 2003 so no, she didn’t just “find a husband in need of an heir”. In fact she’s as wealthy and aristocratic as he is. I think their marriage is one built on a deep friendship and like many aristos, it’s an open one.

    • Tessa says:

      That happens in aristo circles.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Seems like two people involved in a sexual affair who fell pregnant, got married. I know people like to think David is gay, but it is possible he’s 100% straight and/or bisexual. He and Rose have a satisfying, happy relationship complete with three healthy kids. What (and whom) they both do on the side doesn’t matter regardless of gender.

      • Jaded says:

        Exactly. They’d been together for 6 years so it wasn’t like the pregnancy happened from a one-night stand or that she was some kind of gold-digger. They seem happy and well-suited for each other.

  29. Slippers4life says:

    I agree. Is it not more traditional for Will and Kate to have, essentially, an open marriage? The issues I have is, these people are not Will and Jada. They don’t know how to communicate. I’m sure we all know people who are poly and/or are in open marriages with healthy communication and sexual practices. You do you. The problem I have with Will and Kate is this game of pretend they try to maintain that saw them going to such lengths to actively smear Meghan Markle, resulting in her nearly completing suicide, just to keep up the charade. Unacceptable and evil! I also agree with Omid Scobie that what is truly newsworthy, is how Twitter treats the rich and powerful differently than it treats everyone else, which is generating an Internet caste system that is dangerous. Whatever anyone wants to do in their sexual life, as long as nobody is getting hurt, is none of anyone’s business, but in this case someone did get very hurt and less powerful and influential people continue to be hurt by the classsist treatment by social media companies. We are all on the Titanic and there’s not enough life boats in the online world for all of us, only the rich, white, and powerful.

  30. Lady Digby says:

    Can anybody tell me why Will has spent the year icing Buttons Galore in public? Is he sulking because Middleton Mafia PR stunts about how much Big Will owes them?

    • Jaded says:

      Ma Meddleton has certainly been leaking stuff about Willnot’s behaviour in retaliation for his philandering and general boorish behaviour. Kate is a mama’s girl who runs back to Bucklebury every time he gets caught. He’s a tempermental man-child who throws a wobbly every time someone disagrees with him and I can’t imagine how hellish it must be to be married to him. Kate sold her soul to the devil to get the FFK.

      • MsIam says:

        Ma Middleton is getting exactly what she deserves imo. If you throw your daughter out there like a carpet, don’t complain when she gets walked on. Same with Waity, if she knew enough to warn Harry’s girlfriends then she’s no innocent lamb. Diana was the world’s sweetheart and it didn’t keep her from getting screwed over by Chuck. Why should Kate be different considering that William has always treated her badly?

      • A says:

        I honestly don’t think that Carole would ever leak anything damaging about William to the press. I feel like Carole is one of those ladies who adores her son-in-law over her own daughter, and would go out of her way to protect him while throwing her own daughter under the bus.

  31. jferber says:

    Rose is a former model and I’ve seen pics of her looking gorgeous. The header pic of her with William and Kate is VERY unflattering, unless she’s lost a lot of weight and is gaunt now. Also, Rose is 37 to Kate’s 39. To me, it would be humiliating to have my husband linked to all these women. I’d actually like to get revenge, maybe not actually having an affair, but hanging on the arm of some hot aristo for a “work committee” or something like that. The flirtation and attention would be invigorating for Kate, and she could also take a jab at William. I’m not sure what it would do for the hot, young aristo male, but emotional intimacy (something she clearly does not have with William) is its own aphrodisiac. She could always say, truthfully, that she’s not sleeping with the guy. Not sure what William’s blow back would be, but I’d expect he’d be furious if it made the news. If I were Kate, I wouldn’t care, though. Of course, I’m not Kate and I’m sure she’ll do the dumbest, mousiest thing possible.

  32. Sofia says:

    I’ve never thought it was Rose who leaked it. She’s an aristo and knows the rules of her set. They gossip but they don’t do it with the “plebs” and confirming that you’re the (future future) King’s mistress is a huge no-no in those circles. They want someone discreet and telling the Sun about it isn’t. My personal theory has always been it wasn’t leaked by one person/party. It had become too widely discussed that it trickled down to the Sun and people knew why Kate was icing out Rose hence they talked about it.

    • A says:

      My theory was that while the affair was common knowledge among their set, Rose leaked the details or at least gave someone the green light to discuss them with Richard Eden, bc Kate was trying to ice her out of their social scene, which was a huge no no for their set. Whatever happens, you don’t behave in a discourteous way towards your husband’s mistress. You plaster on a smile and put on a good show and deal with it behind closed doors (if you deal with it at all).

  33. Elle says:

    Just checked! Yep he changed the google search thingie from “affair” to “affordable housing”. F u little willie

    • Tessa says:

      As with other things Will set out to do, I doubt this “affordable housing” will get off the ground.

  34. Mrs. Smith says:

    Kate’s birthday is next weekend and, I’m guessing, the whole Middleton clan is still hanging out at Anmer. The air is probably a bit frosty with all the affair news being blasted everywhere. I’m sure Wills has slunked away back to Sandringham house to avoid the glares of his in-laws. Last year they did a church walk on her birthday—what can we expect this time around?

    • MsIam says:

      Will Rose attend church this year, lol? As far as glares from his in-laws, those greedy graspers knew exactly who Kate married. I guess they figured he fit right in with Uncle Wife-beater and Ma and Pa Pot-grower.

  35. jferber says:

    MsIam, Very acute observation.

  36. jferber says:

    MsIam, Very acute observation. You are right. Kate needs to replace Harry. Bit if she had a real affair, William would divorce her IMMEDIATELY, with private eye photos and all. The public would turn on her in a flash. But she knew it from the get-go. I can feel frustrated for her, but I have no sympathy.

  37. Nic919 says:

    Oh someone is worried because a “new” photo of kate gripping his hand for dear life in the back of a limo from the bond premiere has been posted for New Years. Something they haven’t done before. Total coincidence the day after the prince William affair hashtag I am sure. 😁

    • Jaded says:

      That photo is soooooo cringe and so obvious. It’s like an ad for Crest toothpaste.

    • Liz Version 700 says:

      Isn’t that photo amazing lol ! Someone does indeed appear to be worried

    • Tessa says:

      Now they initiated the New Year’s Card. That gold gown was not all that.

    • Feeshalori says:

      Not only gripping but her hand is firmly planted on top of his as well.

      • swirlmamad says:

        Just looked at it…similar to the Earthshot pics, she’s putting forth all the effort — grasping his hand with both of hers while he’s sitting there slack-handed grinning his chompers off for the camera. Whoever has been photographing them recently is absolutely making sure they take and bank pics to support a certain narrative.

  38. Winniegirl says:

    Now I know this may not be a credible source but Deux Moi had a source report that Rose was backstage with William and Kate at the Earthshot Prize. Reportedly, Kate and Rose were laughing and giggling together. If true, I can’t see Kate allowing Rose to stay that close to them if she was sleeping William.

    • Mila says:

      Deux Moi is full of fake info.
      Anyone can send “news” in, nothing is verified. That “sighting” was pure PR and obviously fake, it was laughed at online.

    • notasugarhere says:

      People on Meghan hate forums draft pro-Kate stories to submit to DM, it isn’t a valid source of any facts. Guessing the same fan fictioners who claimed William and Kate were acting like teenagers, all over each other, and blissfully in love backstage that night? Sounds like a desperate deranger trying way too hard to get people to believe their lies.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Winniegirl, if that’s true, then I wonder what they’re distracting us from looking at? That makes it much more interesting, doesn’t it?

  39. Rapunzel says:

    New pic of the Cambs playing a loved up couple is such obvious counterprogramming to the recent Twitter debacle.

    This response just confirms that there’s trouble in the marriage. A happy couple would not have responded to that Twitter thread as they have.

    I wonder now if, at this point, Will isn’t stoking this while simultaneously being obvious in trying to bury it…all for an excuse for divorce.

    If we are right that one of Willyboy’s big beefs with Sussexit was it delayed any possibility of divorce, Will could be trying to force someone’s hand (TQ, PC) to agree. Making it an open secret and drawing attention to it by clearly manipulating social media might be am attempt to get his affairs out there so there’s no more excuses not to divorce. He could be trying to embarrass Kate into agreeing also.

    Or, a possible story line being set up with this might be to use rumors as what drove the Cambridges apart. Will could use intentional rumor spreading to blame the collapse of his marriage on scandal mongering press and social media. A “my wife and I were happy until stories got made up about us and our marriage couldn’t stand the strain” explanation for their breakup would be interesting. Followed by a “and isn’t Twitter the worst?” campaign against Social Media, while they amicably coparent.

    • Tessa says:

      Damage control. Big Time.

      • First comment says:

        Exactly!! I’m pretty sure that the photo wasn’t even taken the day of the bond premiere…. look at her hair…they aren’t as thick as that day…. it won’t be the first time that they dress up with the same clothes and hairstyle for a photo or video ( p.e Kate’s performance at the piano)….definitely, damage control 😉

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @First comment, After looking enough times at different angles, I agree with you. I doubted. Her rat’s nest ram horned poofy bouffy mess that night is different from the NYE pic. No errant odd curl can be found. Next we’ll hear how William messed up her do in the car ‘Cause, ya know, they’re so passionate about each

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      @Rapunzel, lol, sheesh, that’s as obvious as Dominic West & his wife leaving a note on a bush.

      Well, I’ll toast the Cambridges with their try.

  40. Tessa says:

    The Betty White stories put the Cambs photo on the back burner. ANd there are negative comments among the usual “so in love” posts by Cambs fans, in the DM. I am thinking they will trot out the children after they return from wherever they are vacationing.

  41. TEALIEF says:

    These two are wasters and idlers. We all know that idle hands are the devil’s playthings, thus, the only things they are both capable of and enable are each other’s bad behaviour and laziness. They can’t even manage their mischief. They both ordered crap in each other, and now, they have to eat what they ordered, crap. She is his/a lap dog and he is a hound dog. Did she expect he would not sniff around and hound? Now he’s a hashtagged hound, because he worked hard for it and earned it. They both are frighteningly coward because they lack even the guts, or the grace to walk away from each other or “the job”, to do better or be better.

  42. Slippers4life says:

    I’m surprised Meghan Markle’s answer of “Nothing is what it looks like” to Oprah’s question about when she and Kate were at Wimbledon doesn’t get more attention. It was both a vague and broad statement that could lead to so much speculation. If nothing is what it looks like, then clearly these staged “loved up” photos are just that, “staged”. And hey man, again, I don’t mind if the Royals want to put on a “show”, as long as that show isn’t hurting anyone. However, the “show” the “keeping up appearances” is very much hurting people. It’s causing harm now. So either the British people and commonwealth nations hold this show to account and demand it change for the better, or it needs to come to an end. Sleep with whomever you want if it’s all consensual and safe. Just stop driving women, especially Black women, to dangerous places with their mental health. Why is this so hard?

  43. Kit says:

    Strange picture, l mean we have seen de clip of them on de red carpet, everyone esp William ignored her yet again, then we have this cheesy photo, God Kate is such a doormat, , image if that was your daughter been treated like that day in day out, !!

    • Tessa says:

      Kate was just playing to the cameras when she wore the gold gown, William never returned her “loving” looks. And the gown did not look all that great on her. I wonder if the photo would have been released if those twitter posts had not happened. Hmmm.

      • Kaydee says:

        Yeah- I have to say, I re watched the slowed down clip of their interaction. I feel badly for her. It’s not a nice feeling when you love someone or your giving to someone and they aren’t loving or giving back to you. That can be soul crushing. It’s depressing. I understand Megan’s sympathy towards Kate. No matter all the trappings of wealth, Kate must be absolutely miserable and rejected. That’s an awful place to be.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @Kaydee, no, just no. Kate is not in love with Will anymore. She’/Ma Midds is/are in love with the future future title. No sympathy to her. It can be soul crushing and depressing when love is on the table. That is not their relationship.imo Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, after everything that’s been said and done & how Kate used Meghan for photo ops (Wimbledon) and everything else, hi Jason, does not feel sympathetic towards Kate. Meghan’s sympathy extends to the future scapegoats of W & K.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate still takes the time to bash Meghan in her own birthday puff pieces because her life is so shallow so if she had a soul it left ages ago. She’s just a mean person and if her marriage is so bad she can get a divorce. No one is forcing her to stay in a bad marriage. She is choosing this. Diana paved the way for her to leave if that’s what she really wanted. She wants a title more than a decent marriage. That’s on her and she’s still going after her sister in law so karma is coming.

      • Kaydee says:

        Believe me…I’m no Kate-Stan. Quite the opposite. She’s white womanhood toxicity personified. I’m just saying watching that video- I understand why Meghan can feel sympathy towards her. If she didn’t love William to begin with that would be one thing. But it’s clear she did at one point and to harden yourself because of how someone feels about you. That’s awful. She’s toxic. She’s a bully, she’s racist AF, she’s dangerous ….and she’s also unloved by the man she’s married to. That’s sad.

      • Jaded says:

        @Kaydee – yes, it’s possible to understand that someone is mean, toxic and destructive but still feel sorry for them because they’re in an untenable situation. My husband’s ex-wife is toxic AF and has left a path of ruined relationships behind her (her marriage, her relationship with her daughter, her sisters, various friends) but she suffers from several personality disorders (BPD, vulnerable narcissism, etc.) and for that I actually feel sorry for her, it’s made her life a living hell.

  44. Isabella says:

    The hashtag isn’t gone from Twitter. I just. checked and there it is, as embarrassing as ever.

  45. Greenfingers says:

    Ive read some older articles and came across a comment that was made about the Dutch royals that is not the topic, but I still want to give some background info:

    Like many newcomers to the Netherlands, Maxima did not have to follow the integration course, that was mandatory for the rest. Her father was a minister during the many murders and missing persons in Argentina, and was therefore not allowed to be present at her wedding, after protest.

    When Maxima came to live in the Netherlands, a pilot that lived in the Netherlands, and who performed flights for the government, where people were thrown out of planes, was arrested, and after her father died, this pilot received a large compensation, and the charges were dropped. .

    What I want to point out is that the Dutch royal family is far from perfect. Maxima and her husband own and build houses in faraway Africa with a subsidy and at the expense of the state, while it is stated that this was built with their own money. They had to sell a newly build house in Zimbabwe because of these actions..

    All monarchies need to be abolished!

  46. candy says:

    William definitely has a type.

  47. Weatherby says:

    This is the very bottom of the comments thread, but has anyone got a link to a picture of Rose Hanbury’s daughter, Iris?

    A Google image search reveals nothing, this child appears not to exist on the internet.