Taylor Swift announced/confirmed her split from Joe Alwyn in April 2023. The explanation for the split, at the time, was that Joe couldn’t handle Taylor’s fame or successful career, and he just wanted to be a private person. In May 2023, Taylor released a bonus track: “You’re Losing Me,” in which she seemed to indicate that she and Joe split because he wouldn’t marry her. That song was released during the height of the backlash against Swift for dating Matt Healy, a known racist. When Taylor announced The Tortured Poets Department, many thought the title was an allusion to Joe Alwyn (he said something about a “tortured man club” in an interview) and that the album would mostly be about Joe and their six-year-long relationship. It was not. TTPD is mostly about Healy, not Alwyn. So… how is Joe feeling about all of this, more than a year after their split was announced:
There’s no bad blood between Joe Alwyn and Taylor Swift. More than a year after their breakup, which PEOPLE confirmed in early April 2023, the 33-year-old actor is “doing well” and “focused on work.”
“He’s dating and happy,” a source tells PEOPLE. “He’s a great guy and not into drama in any way.”
Alwyn has “moved on” from Swift, 34, and “certainly doesn’t talk poorly about her,” the source says. “He was in love with her, and it just didn’t work out.”
The source continues of his career, “Joe loves acting, but can’t stand the attention that comes with it. He’s not comfortable in the spotlight.”
The pair’s split after six years was largely due to “differences in their personalities,” a source close to them told PEOPLE at the time.
Alwyn was always keen to keep his romance with Swift “his own personal story,” a source told PEOPLE. The relationship initially “took a lot of people by surprise,” the source added, but Alwyn “wasn’t showing off.”
It’s certainly true that Joe kept quiet about dating Swift and for six years, I don’t even recall Joe saying her name in an interview, despite journalists repeatedly asking Joe about her. All in all, I think it’s weird that JoeTay were able to make it work for as long as they did, but it’s also clear that Taylor was going through a quieter phase during that time, post-Receipts. I wonder if Joe was as surprised as everyone else that Taylor devoted so much time and space to the Healy relationship. I also wonder if Joe was surprised to learn that Taylor and Healy probably started a lot earlier than originally believed, perhaps even when Joe and Taylor were still technically together.
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Good. He deserves to be happy.
Agreed. I’m happy he seems to be moving on and just found peace. The way some swifties go after him is truly vicious.
He dodged a bullet.
Undoubtedly!
After listening to the album non stop since it came out, it seems like Joe wasn’t putting effort into the relationship; that he wouldn’t take the next step and likely was experiencing depression. Lover onward is filled with songs about Taylor’s insecurity in that relationship, always wondering when it will end, if he cares etc.
So Long London talks about her friends saying it’s not normal to be afraid all the time, and she replies “every breath is the rarest air when you’re not sure he wants to be there.”
Guilty has sin is about thoughts she has about someone else while in a relationship and whether she’s wrong if she doesn’t act on them. I think she was in touch with Matty while still with Joe. In Bejewelled she sings “the band asks if I still have a man and I say I don’t remember.” Things with her and Joe were def basically dead the last year they were together. Evermore and midnights let her safely explore the end.
“My friends said it isn’t right to be scared
Every day of a love affair”
You know what cheater do? They accuse you of things they do themselves. That is what Taylor was doing in my opinion. Joe was with her when she was on her lowest. I understand if Taylor didn’t want to be with someone on their lowest anymore, but it is sh*tty to reveal that to the world when they are not publicly open about that.
These kinds of comments just skeeve me out, particularly on an article discussing how much he dislikes attention and wants to be private.
I thought is was just me. If he was indeed experiencing depression and she alluded to it, shame on her – that’s his business and it’s HIS health issue. He clearly liked to keep his “private life private,” – and that’s not who she is. Nearly every musical artist takes life experience and turns into song….Melissa Etheridge has some scorched earth tunes from the beginning of her career. TS seems to take it the extra mile and targets her former lovers in a way that is very specific – and (for me), a bit excessive.
There’s also being in a relationship, totally committed, and the other person is so insecure that they refuse to believe it. It’s exhausting and runs you down.
Thinking about Tom Hiddleston. He actually seemed to be doing OK after the split. Then a year later she put out Reputation and basically let the world know he was a jump off and that she had probably been cheating on him while flaunting him all over the world. He really looked lost for awhile, until he did that play. Glad he’s got Zawe and baby now. Hopefully Joe will find someone steady and quiet to settle down with.
I think taylor and matt probably had something going on way way before, that we didn’t know about. She would not devote that much time and space and words for a 3 month relationship. Definitely these 2 had sparks and it was something crazy but it was unfinished business and now all of that is definitely dead. She would also rather it be about matt so we bury and cancel Joe and she doesn’t have to talk about it.
Jake and Harry would like a word here lol
Her fans think that she dated Jake and Harry in private for years because they truly can’t believe she wrote these albums dedicated to guys she’s only briefly dated. They love to rewrite history as much as she does.
Right Case!!! Also she clearly details all this in the liner notes.
Take it you never had a pos breakup fling after a really long relationships you thought was the one? Because trust me the fling gives you a lot more material than the relationship that slowly died and you just have to admit you didn’t make sense. The fling is messy painful and ultimately forces you to mourn the real love you lost.
So yeah she could write about a fling.
She’s just sharing a theory that her fans have those relationships, no need to get so defensive.
I read a fan theory somewhere that Joe and Taylor had broken up & reconciled few times in what appeared to be a continuous 6yr relationship. Maybe the Matty Healy stuff started in one of those breaks.
Regardless, I’m glad Joe is doing OK. The lyrics about his depression on this latest album made me really feel for him. It can’t be easy to break up with someone so – both in the immediate aftermath when she was touring and everywhere, & the long run as ‘Taylor’s ex boyfriend’.
Joe, they are never gonna make me hate you!!
Anyway, I remember the swifties were begging Joe to come back when they learned about Matty. Then, Taylor went into a campaign to make Joe look bad, so the swifties would love her new partner. It was the shadiest thing she did to a man who doesn’t like spotlight. They are still sending him death threats. I don’t know if he can go somewhere public with a new girlfriend now. No doubt, the swifties would bully any girl he is seen with even though Taylor had 2 boyfriends since Joe. He is my introvert king and it is obvious he is a good man, otherwise the swifties would find dirt on him by now.
He’s a nothingburger on screen, I don’t think there’s anything to like or dislike about him.
Having said, think he definitely expected her to write some songs about him after the breakup, she has the same pattern with everyone.
If he hates attention he a) picked the wrong profession and b) probably shouldn’t have dated an international pop star.
I think, acting is different in UK. There are a lot of educated actors who do the work and do minimum promotional work and go home. Most of them live very private lives. With Taylor, she decided to step back from spotlight after tapegate. So, they were probably in line with privacy aspect of the relationship. And, Taylor was still an international star when she was with him, but we only heard about her work? She was still rich, famous, but she wasn’t on tabloids that much anymore. A lot of people didn’t even know she was with the same guy for 6 years. So, actually it worked until Taylor changed her mind, which she is entitled to do.
This is accurate. I worked for a period as a personal assistant to someone in the London theater world, and it seems much more easy/possible over there to maintain a fairly normal life while steadily working. Not necessarily always working high-profile projects, but lining up a steady stream of stage or tv jobs and being able to commute on the Tube without anyone recognizing or bothering you! So, this wouldn’t have struck me as an unrealistic desire for Joe — to work as an actor but maintain privacy.
re a) not necessarily. adam driver hates attention too, does bare minimum of prom and disappears for months and he is still one of the most successful actors out there while being super private and protective of his family.
@atlantababe, True of Adam Driver, but key difference is that because he loves privacy, he would never date Taylor Swift (even if he were single).
@KN, OMG, maybe the guy was just in love with Taylor? And obviously she agreed to be private with him, so we didn’t get any pap walks, red carpets or constant People articles about what they are doing at the moment.
Most working actors are not known by name. They go to set, do their job and live normal lives. Not every actor is looking for stardom, they just want to work.
Yes and most working actors as you describe don’t attend the met gala and other events like that. Joe was working to be a star not a working actor- if he wanted to just be a working actor and not a star he would have never been in that room.
@Lisa, Joe attends fashion events. It is obvious it is part of his promotional work. No one goes to Met to have fun, they are working and networking.
Because he wants to be more than a working actor he wants to be a name. and yes I work in fashion I know all about the Met and why people go. He went because he was trying to be A-list not a working actor that no one knew which is why this I want my privacy narrative doesn’t fully fit.
Now unlike you with Taylor, I will give Joe the grace of after experience life with an A-lister he realized he didn’t want to be that famous. I can fully believe he changed his mind on the level of career he wanted.
@Lisa, but I don’t understand you. They had privacy for 6 years and Taylor was still working and creating? Joe was also attending events as part of his job. So, what changed that makes you say that he isn’t truthful about privacy? Taylor sings about unrealized marriage, his blue days. So, apparently she wasn’t happy in the relationship. That is her right. It is just weird you all are rewriting history. Taylor explained it before like this:
“But I think that in knowing him and being in the relationship I am in now, I have definitely made decisions that have made my life feel more like a real life and less like just a storyline to be commented on in tabloids. Whether that’s deciding where to live, who to hang out with, when to not take a picture — the idea of privacy feels so strange to try to explain, but it’s really just trying to find bits of normalcy.”
I am not rewriting history at all, I think you are a bit. I think these were two people in love that weren’t right for each other and tried, I think it was clear since the beginning this was the case and was obvious in her songs about him in Rep. I mean it is always there the differences and incompatibility but also the love. I also don’t think it is bad that they want different things. However, I am not the person in every post about one of them bashing one half or trolling their fans or their work. You are.
You are trying to make Taylor the villain and like she has gone after Joe and stuff and she hasn’t, she is real clear in this album their relationship just died. Now does she give her perspective that he didn’t try, yes, but she also says clear as day in the song that Joe feels the same about her.
And the privacy stuff in the beginning was also because of other situations and I don’t think Taylor was happy with it, because no matter how much they might have wanted to be I don’t think they were right for each other. It happens. However, let us not pretend that when they met Joe wasn’t trying to have a bigger career then “working actor.” Because he was and still is. That is my point, and I stand by it.
@Lisa, you are entitled to your opinion. I just don’t like people bullying someone who didn’t do anything wrong. I have watched multiple swiftie videos for the new album and some of them said they want Joe to die. They weren’t even anonymous, they have a channel with their name and face visible. I am not trolling anyone. I am commenting on popular topics like everyone on this blog. I have listened to Taylor for almost a decade now, so I have knowledge on things I talk about and like I said, one person in this story is still getting death threats while other one made pap walks with her friends who unfollowed Joe after said pap walks. That is how “Joe is a bad guy” started in swiftie world and hence, death threats. I don’t like bullies, especially when one person has less power financially, socially than other one.
We have evidence that Joe hasn’t hit it big, NOT that he hasn’t tried to hit it big. People that just want to be working character actors don’t seek our lead roles in movies distributed by big companies. But whatever. It makes zero difference to my life.
Amen
Exactly. I wouldn’t have ever noticed him on screen if he wasn’t with Swift.
He’s mostly known for having dated her (unlike Tom Hiddleston, for example).
I am just 2 years younger than her. I used to listened her song back then. Sometimes I just wonder how can she wrote about her relationship all the time. I dont hate her, its work for her, so good for her. I just feel its quite funny
I’m happy for him. Learning what she wrote, how she was with him but fancied someone else, he deserves all the happiness.
Taylor wasn’t that quiet during the first half of the relationship. His part in the failure of the relationship seems to be a classic case of men being okay being in relationship with a more successful woman when the men have the confidence that they will soon be successful in their career also. Joe had the confidence to pursue Taylor before he even had a movie released, but he had yet to experience a single significant setback in his life at that point. Men get older and don’t find the success they anticipated and then comes resentment and pulling away from their more successful female partner. Joe turned 30 in the pandemic as he was losing work and watching a younger generation of actors emerge and already have greater success than him. Then he had his projects that he placed hope in fail in 2022 even after he hired a manager to promote him.
A lot of Taylor’s peers seem to have a gone through something similar with a less successful man. It may not be a coincidence that Taylor’s friend Kelsea Ballerini released her divorce album weeks before Taylor decided to end her own relationship. There’s a lot similarities in the issues the women talk about in the music. And maybe not a surprise that there is some similarities in Taylor and Kelsea’s current relationships as well.
@SH Well that’s one theory…
It’s very … precise.
I agree with this, they met at the Met Gala because he was set to be the next big thing, his movie hadn’t come out but he was getting a lot of buzz and interest, then her career went down while his continued to go up, boom then the Rep happened, his projects didn’t take off like predicted and then the pandemic hit and to no fault of his, his career stalled and she skyrocketed (she did make him a guaranteed 2 mil for life) now he wants privacy.
I think Joe is a nice guy, I think he probably never wanted her level of fame because my god I can’t imagine why anyone would, but I also think you are spot on.
I don’t understand this. Taylor had to pay him support? ” (she did make him a guaranteed 2 mil for life) now he wants privacy.”
good for him, he dodged a bullet. taylor is disgusting for revealing that he has clinical depression. hope he and his new gf are safe from her crazy stans.
All of this
Good on him. He seems like a nice guy. He’s introverted and there is nothing wrong with that. I wish him well.
Good for him really. She apparently was emotionally cheating on him for almost the entire relationship if her album is any indication. How is she getting a pass when no one else would is beyond me.
He’s a very good actor and seems like a decent guy. Glad he’s doing well and isn’t affected by her bs.
This is her MO with every guy she dates. They cant handle her fame, they abused her, they cheated, they were using her, etc. Etc. Every. Single. Time. Throw mysogny into the mix and you have her breakup formula.
Who’s the common denominator here
Bullseye, Get Real
Taking bets now on which label she’s going to apply to Travis.
I’ll take using her for 500
She has never said any of her exes ever. She has never said one of them abused her. Not once. And specifically she has gone out of her way to not paint joe as the bad guy, in every song about him he is the greatest thing ever but there is this fear of it not working because they aren’t compatible and then in the breakup songs it is all about the slow death and finally admitting they don’t work.
You keep going at people who don’t share your view of Taylor and that’s a bit troubling. She wrote this album and basically confessed to being in an emotional affair. That is a shitty way to treat your long term partner. She has at times moved in shady ways throughout her career/life. It’s okay for people to see people differently, especially when that person wants to be seen in a certain light.
🤣🤣🤣 please girl
John Mayer, Jake Gyllenhall, Calvin Harris, Harry Styles…she even said Tom Hiddleston, the sweetest, most sincere human on this planet, threw his education in her face. Come on now, I get you’re a swiftie but even you can’t unsee this
Calling a man you most likely don’t actually know the “sweetest, most sincere human on this planet” is unhinged af.
Joe Alwyn is (to me) blandly handsome and forgettable and what stood out to me after watching “The Favourite” and some of “Conversations with Friends” is how little screen charisma he has. I read somewhere once, and all this is speculation obviously, no one knows the truth, that he struggled with her fame and success after failing break out in the way he might have expected to after those two projects. He’s no Paul Mescal, but he might have been hoping for “Conversations with Friends” to do for his career what “Normal People” did for Mescal’s.
Joe talked about how he chooses projects before. Not every actor is after leading man roles, they know they don’t have it and okay with it. All the movies, shows are filled with good supporting actors / actresses. Joe is choosing his projects according to the directors he wants to work with, he doesn’t care about how big the role is, wants to enjoy the experience. He comes from wealthy family, doesn’t need the money and is doing the job because he likes it. That is what anyone who doesn’t struggle financially would do. Not everyone works to be number one. That is not speculation, it is straight from the horse’s mouth.
“He’s no Paul Mescal, but he might have been hoping for “Conversations with Friends” to do for his career what “Normal People” did for Mescal’s.”
Or maybe he’s a working actor and is happy to have work. Don’t assume everyone is eager for the spotlight like Taylor.
So is it that Taylor and Joe broke up because she wanted to be more open and public about their relationship and he didn’t? That’s what I’m getting from this.
I looked him up on Wikipedia. He is a university grad with a BA in English and drama, so that could be the basis for plan B if this acting gig doesn’t work.
Joe has proven himself to be a class act. Because based on the timeline and Taylor’s own lyrics it’s pretty obvious that she cheated on him with Healy. I think he’s probably happy to be left out of the narrative. And also happy that he didn’t propose!
He really is a beautiful looking man, hope to see him in more stuff and his career flourishes.
He’s handled the breakup with class and dignity, which isn’t easy when dating someone so public. There were a lot of signs this relationship wasn’t going to work long term but it was her longest and most significant relationship to date. I hope he continues to heal and move on in his own way. It likely helps that he’s far away from her physically in the UK
This too 👆
I have very different feelings about Joe. He was happy to live with the wealth that Taylor’s publicity and projects provided. He accepted writing credits on a couple of her songs which is said to be worth about twenty five million dollars and growing. Women who live off the money that was earned by a live in and refuse to acknowledge them would be taken to the cleaners. I hope Joe is happy but the fact remains he never has to worry about money again in his life and his current projects are almost all related to Taylor and her contacts and friends. I have little sympathy for him. His university degree means nothing and his CV is rather thin for his age .
Wow. Both Joe and Taylor separately talked about how the songs were created. Joe was playing piano himself, Taylor heard it and wanted to work on it together since she saw the potential. He got the writing credit, because he did the work, it wasn’t a favor and it was Taylor who asked to collaborate. As we know, Taylor is very protective of her work, she wouldn’t just give a credit to her boyfriend if he didn’t really contribute to it. Also, the songs he worked on are among the most beautiful ones of Taylor’s works. I am gonna say he earned every penny of the royalties he is collecting.
This is a wild take. Joe co-wrote the songs so the writing credits are his legal right. Why shouldn’t he be paid for his work? I’m pretty sure Taylor would agree on this, considering her massive effort to own her own music.
@Pat Gaddess
Thankfully, Joe Alwyn doesn’t need your sympathy or your judgment re his education and his CV. He continues to work at a job he enjoys, in addition to receiving well-deserved royalties from the songs he co-wrote with your fave. He didn’t “accept writing credits” – he earned them.
p.s. your fan-fiction reeks of envy
I don’t actually have to write a comment because everyone above said it. But still, it bears repeating: dude wasn’t passively given credits; he actively co-wrote. And a college degree matters.
The funny thing to me is that there being little drama post-Joe Alwyn is the most impressive thing she could do in the eyes of people like me (I love 1989, like a few other songs, and enjoy watching the relationship with the football player). That’s a twisted sentence, but I just mean that she and Joe seem to be acting *mostly* mature about the breakup, and fans might not want to keep dragging her back to drama.
Acting like royalties he EARNED on a couple of songs will set him up for life financially?? Please.
And do please name his upcoming projects that can be attributed to her. I’d love to know.
He had a career well before he met her.
He had money before he even met Taylor. He comes from a posh family.
His family is wealthy so probably never had to worry about money in the first place.
Godspeed to you Joe! You have escaped and seem well on your way to finding happiness outside the Taylor Swift universe at long last. Kudos to this gentle introvert who has not said one word against a woman he loved and shared six years of his life with. That she exploited the time they spent together in diss tracks that revealed his state of mind is grotesque but hardly surprising given her history of scorching former lovers in order to project her continual victimhood when it comes to her relationships.
Prepare yourself Travis – your public thrashing is inevitable when you too tire of her nonsense.
First people are seriously misreading this album Matty has like 2 very clear songs that are about him, Joe has about 3 (that are really beautiful and sad, he is not bashed in this) and the rest are about Taylor and any if she references a man it is a mix from Joe, to Matty to Scott (the owner of her record label) and the fans.
Also she clearly details and explains this album for people in the liner notes, it is about a time in her life when she was manic. She was ending Joe she didn’t want to admit it was over so she took up with someone who had always promised her there was something there because she was afraid of always being alone. You know like almost every one does when they end a serious multi year relationship that you think is the one. That rebound fling is the one that mess you up because when it falls apart is when you really have to deal with what happened with the long term. Hence the album and the song The Prophecy.
I am glad Joe is happy he deserves to be, but this need to make him a victim some have is strange and truly the people doing it are no different than the swifties they mock for trying to make joe the villain. It is incredibly clear these were two people who deeply loved each other but they weren’t right for one another. I think that comes across clear as day in all the Joe songs starting with Rep when she is her most loved up with him and carries on into this one. I wish him all the best.
Is it possible that she writes music just for fun sometimes and it’s not ALWAYS autobiographical? Just wondering? Has she ever commented about that?
yes she does, Folklore and Evermore were for the most part fictional, she also is writing about what she is feeling, so she uses a lot of metaphors etc and will pull back to long ago things. But yeah they aren’t always autobiographical . Hell on this album she has a song about one of her producers kids that she wrote because she was watching him play.
The interest in her music, I understand. The interest in her love life, not so much. None of her relationships have seemed that interesting to me.
He dodged a bullet and is probably thanking his lucky stars he didn’t marry Taylor. I bet he’ll be quietly married to someone else within 2 years.
He seems like a decent man. All the best.
I think he’s been a class act throughout all this and have been keeping to himself of what really happened. As should as their relationship should be private. Some of the hardcore Swifties who are throwing shade and hate towards this man on SM isn’t doing them any favors perception wise – as it just makes them look bad.
It is known that a relationship based on fantasy, and burns fast, is worse than the one that just ran its course after much consideration.
Maybe that’s why she wrote all those terribly basic lyrics instead of give a deeper look at everything she went through emotionally while in a steady relationship.