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TV psychiatrist Dr. Drew Pinsky had the Scientologists calling him a Nazi after he said in a recent interview that Cruise’s involvement in the cult looks like “a function of a very deep emptiness and suggests serious neglect in childhood - maybe some abuse, but mostly neglect.” Pinsky half-heartedly apologized in a bland statement afterward, with his rep saying “Dr. Drew meant no harm to Mr. Cruise and apologizes if his comments were hurtful.” You can’t blame the guy for not being more contrite after Cruise’s lawyer compared him to infamous Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels.
Cruise wasn’t the only celebrity Dr. Drew dissed in that interview in Playboy. He made a really sweeping statement about Angelina Jolie’s admission of past drug use, saying no one ever gets past using heroin and that he questions whether she’s still sober. He also called her charity work “self-serving.”
“I’m concerned with what’s really going on with Angelina Jolie,” he said in July’s issue of Playboy. “I’ve never seen someone remit heroin completely. You’re either still on heroin, Oxycontin or something else. Unless you’re dead. Is she still using something? Is she in recovery. If she’s in recovery, I don’t see any evidence of it, because people in recovery invest themselves in simple, selfless acts of service, not global self-serving acts.”
[From In Touch, print edition, June 30, 2008]
So, according to Dr. Drew there are no former heroin users who lead normal lives without attending meetings. Maybe he only sees the hard cases, but that seems like a pretty broad generalization.
Today is World Refugee Day and Angelina recorded a video to bring attention to the plight of displaced people throughout the world. Except somehow it’s all about her, since she admits to doing heroin in her past and no one who’s ever done heroin at any point can go on to lead a normal life without staying in recovery for the rest of their life, right Dr. Drew?
I don’t know how old these photos of Angelina are since they were undated, but she looks like she’s on something here. Thanks to PRPhotos.
Written by Celebitchy
Posted in Angelina Jolie, Dr. Drew
118 Responses to “Dr. Drew wonders if Angelina Jolie is still on drugs, calls her charity “self-serving””
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hello plastic surgery. she looks totally different.
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Can’t wait to read the comments about this one.
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Dr. Drew is my new god. Someone who is not afraid to call a spade a spade, even the most photographed “pretty” people on the planet.
Oh, yeah, and HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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My husband had a bout with the H bomb, long before he and I met– I have yet to ever see an intense opiate like Heroin or Oxy in my house.
I’m surprised that a person who is a student of psychology, would make such a generalized statement. One could easily say that Angie simply chooses to save those “simple selfless acts” for her daily life with her children and partner– acts that people without a telephoto lens cannot see.
p.s. she looks insanely strung out in that bottom photo
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Wow, i would have great pause going to an addiction specialist that freely admits, not himself, or god, or anyone in the universe can break a herion addiction. So, by that logic, people who pay him for help are being conned and he is a fraud. God help us if we end up making a stupid error in judgement as kids and try drugs. Now that I know I can never recover, i’m expecting a relapse anytime now.
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Wow, at first I thought that was an old picture of Ashley Judd. It’s weird how much they used to look alike.
Not really defending him, but from a clinical/medical standpoint he is right. Once a body suffers an addiction (especially something as hard has heroin), it will ALWAYS crave it to some extent. That’s why addicts are asked to understand that recovery is a lifelong process. There most likely will be relapses, because your body still thinks it needs it. It’s not like this is just about heroin either - ask anyone who’s ever quit smoking if the cravings ever REALLY go away. My uncle quit 30 years ago and he still admits he wants one after every meal.
I don’t really think it’s about him ‘only seeing the hard cases’, so much as it’s that there are no other kind of cases when it comes to heroin. It’s a lot like meth, you’re either on it or you’re not. I’ve never seen a ‘casual user’ of heroin, crack, meth ect. It’s not like a pothead who can still function pretty well most of the time.
As far as the charity goes, I do think her and Brad like feeling like the reincarnation of Mother Theresa, but at the end of the day I doubt the refugees who now have food or medical supplies really care what the motivation behind it was.
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I heard that Dr. Drew himself has been fighting a crack addiction himself..good luck to him.
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Shame, shame, Dr. Drew. I’m a recovered drug addict, of which included Oxy, Vicodin and heroin, and I have been completely sober for two years now.
I admire that Angie can be clean about her issues, and still be as giving and loving as she seems.
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It never ceases to amaze me when people insist she’s never had cosmetic surgery. She looks nothing like this now. And it’s not just the hair. And these photos were after she had already had some work done b/c when she’s younger she looks like an entirely different person.
I am about the same age and she is and while I have changed the entire shape of my face and features are the same. No one changes that much with out surgery.
And bottom photo, those are some crazy strung out eyes.
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Fair play to you Rihab - keep up the good work
Um, maybe I’m wrong but I thought that it was psychiatrists who dealt with the business-end of the chemical addition not psychologists?
There is anecdotal evidence, that there is a significant number of people users, who are (temporarily) smoking heroin generally in the evening and still functioning in their jobs during the day.
Nobody goes to strung-out junkie overnight. And it appears that this Dr. Drew fella has no more awareness of any maintenance programme (if any) that she has, so he’s giving an opinion, but not a very well-informed one.
It never ceases to amaze me why people care whether she’s had surgery or not. Nearly everybody has had something done in Hollywood - and it’s getting more and more common everywhere else too. If she has had surgery then it was pretty good, end of story.
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I think he is right, but I disagree with him that her charity is NOT self-serving. Yes, she does do it globally, but she’s Angelina Jolie. What is she going to do? She can’t just go to her local Red Cross and volunteer, so what she is doing is more on her level as a superstar A-list actress.
I have known people who have used hard substances like heroin and crack, and again I agree with Dr. Drew. You don’t really kick it and you have to be very cognizant about who you hang around with, and what those people do. That is probably why she surrounds herself with children because they come drug-free…most times.
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I’ve actually wondered the same things myself, Dr. Drew. Angelina seems to be all about Angelina and some of the things she’s done, while no one could argue that they have brought attention and funds to deserving causes, could also be viewed as recreating her image.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that she doesn’t have some altruistic motives, I’m just thinking that it’s a bit more complex than just being a do gooder.
And addiction is a complicated beast. I’m glad that those commenters who have battled addiction and beaten it have had success but that is not the norm. For most addicts, it’s a lifelong process. Drugs are your physiologic and psychologic crutch. Being in the public eye in general is kind of counter productive to achieving a sense of self worth and harmony.
No one else seems willing to suggest that Santa Angelina is anything other than the hottest earth mother ever. It’s her image and she’s worked hard to cultivate it. I’m not saying that people can’t change, just that it’s difficult.
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I don’t care whether or not she, or anyone else, has had cosmetic surgery. In many ways it is a part of the job and practically required.
What I am bothered about is the lying. Her saying she would never have cosmetic surgery and never has. I don’t think she, or anyone else, needs to say yes they have or makes a list of what they’ve had done but just don’t comment.
Angelina, Nicole Kidman, Halle Berry and others who have clearly had work done and then talk about how they are totally natural are what bother me. Just don’t comment. And yet all of them have condemned it. It’s the hypocrisy that I hate. I don’t condem them for surgery but for lying.
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Re: Plastic surgery, and a pic of Angie maybe circa 1998, versus how she looks now. I think it’s just different hair color and cut, make-up and drug usage (yes, she’s obviously on… something, God knows what). Plus pregnancy, which does change women’s faces.
Re: Dr. Drew… I read the whole Playboy interview, and I was filled with complete loathing for the man. It’s not just about La Jolie, he makes really broad generalizations about nearly every psychiatriac condition out there. It was like “I met a cokehead once. I think all cokeheads are the same, based on that one experience.”
And the whole professionally diagnosing someone based on what you read about them in Star? Utter bullshit.
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I dabbled in heroin “recreationally” on and off for a year of my life. That was 10 years ago and had a couple days of withdrawal symptoms, but got through it just fine. I don’t do any other drugs, I don’t smoke–I drink about 1 drink a week and that isn’t every week. It IS possible for people to get off heroin and not get addicted, although it is rare and you really never hear about it. She seems to be a very strong woman and those types of personalities may be better suited for not continuing with some type of addiction. I love Dr. Drew but he is generalizing on this.
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you don’t know that how he feels is based on what he has read or what he does know. we odn’t know any of these people on a personal level. we don’t know that he has or has not met angelina or tom.
he is a top doctor of addiction. he not only has a tv show and columns but he also teaches a celebrated university.
he deals with addictions and is considered an expert in his field.
would you all be upset if he said this about someone else, rather than angelina jolie? i dont think that you would be. when celebitchy decided to post about what he said about tom cruise, the majority of you jumped on the bandwagon to say what very negative things about tom and scientology and how right dr drew was but now he’s a know nothing.
i very well could see that angelina has an addiction problem. it wasn’t that long ago that there were reports that she was doing drugs with her friend marilyn manson. he even created an art piece showing her using a “nail” to inject into her arm.
at the very least, i could see relapse but that she now fine.
i personally believe she is bi-polar
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When Dr Drew was saying nasty things about Tom Cruise, the Brangeloonies thought he was very clever, now he turns to their saint
Lets see whether they will still think him clever. What goes around comes around, do not create a monster to eat your enemy, it will still be hungry when your enemy is no more!
I have always wondered how Angelina came from such a storng addiction to sobber philathropist over night. She is a psycho no doubt, when all the Brangelina novelty wears off, we will see that psycho coming out more and more.
Dr Drew plagarised my point I stress here EVERYDAY!, all that charity is self serving, not rocket science really.
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Agreed Monica.
Let’s take a look at what we KNOW about Angelina:
1. Her drug use is well documented.
2. She entered into a relationship with a married man.
3. Her appearance has changed significantly over the years, despite her insistance that she’s never had surgery.
4. She has used her celebrity to draw attention to international humanitarian causes.So, there’s some good there, but there’s also some bad and I think Dr. Drew makes some good points. He could also be wrong. So what nerve has he touched? Is it that he said these things about someone he’s not treating or that he said them about Angelina Jolie?
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Monica - there are a good number of other commentators who agree with him you realise.
Personally, I’ve not said he knows nothing, just that I’m not sure it’s so black-and-white in many cases. Plus, we don’t know what her rehab strategy is.
Not to be picky, but the reports with Marilyn Manson were blind items, that some people assumed was Angelina because she’s one of few actresses to say that she’s used heroin.
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Its one thing to do charity work. Its self serving the moment you drag the paps.
“HEY LOOK AT HOW NICE AND SELFLESS I AM!!!! SUPPORT MY MOVIES BUY MY STUFF
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The words Tom Cruise and Cult still don’t mix well in my thought process. Angelina for sure does not look sober in those pictures…
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Thats my point Vince, when they have a movie coming out, suddenly they announce a donation to New Orleans. After their infidelity, their iamges were going to the sewers if they had not taken up charity. I am not sure charity has helped since Angelina is always high on lists of most hated woman. But lets face it, their charity is about their image not the goodness of their hearts. I don’t doubt they love their kids, but their biggest motivation is their image/PR, period.
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sorry, but i cant take anything someone who now makes his fortune off of RATINGS has to say. had he sat down with angelina and come to this conclusion i would be more willing to accept it, but he gets his info on her from the same place i do! and besides, CHARITY IS CAHRITY! as long as people are being helped, who cares what the motivation behind it is?
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To everyone saying it’s possible to do heroin and not get addicted - I know that’s true, but is that really the responsible message people should be putting out there?
“Hey, I did heroin and I’m just fine now!”
Most people who do it aren’t fine, in fact it destroys their lives. When you make comments like that you’re telling people that there is a possibility they won’t get hooked - but do you really understand how vanishingly small a percentage we’re talking about here?
Like 2% of the population has no reaction to arsenic too, does that mean we should start injecting it?
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Monica, the shift button exists for a reason. Please use it.
If you look at a picture of me from a year ago, you wouldn’t believe it’s me- peoples looks can change, drastically without surgery- and hers haven’t. She still has the same nose, eyes, lips, chin, and cheekbones…i went to a January 15th picture (the one about violent video games) for a non obvious pregnant comparison..and while she looks different, the structure of her face remains the same.
Charity is still Charity- I know I only did some (not all) of the charity work I’ve done to pack my resume…
About the heroin, don’t know, don’t care- it’s not like she’s laying about doing it all day or being stoned in public…
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I “experimented” with pot, LSD, speed & heroin as a teen and in my early 20s. I never became “addicted” and have always held jobs & have now had a beautiful family. Unfortunately some of my old friends where not so lucky and developed in junkies and have never got off the stuff. Not all drug use goes on to become full blown addictions - im in no way condoning drug use but the fact is that not all drug user have to attend support groups and rehab to get over it. If she was anything like me she just grew up and stopped using it as a pointless way to rebel.
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well said f. scott.
for most people, 6 hours after the drug lives your system your body starts to crave it again. it’s our chemical makeup.
there are tons of people who are addicts but they do go thru the normal motions of life. i know teachers, engineers, and stockbrockers who do coke everyday but don’t look like junkies. there seems to be an underlying feeling here that dr drew insulted angelina by insinuating that she has an addiction and people are upset but the truth of the matter is even the nicest person in the room could have an addictions but it doesn’t make them a bad person. it makes them a person who has an addiction.
i don’t think it’s fair to say that he does this for ratings if it can not also be said that angelina’s acts are not without some sense of self-exposure. charity may be charity and although it does help people, it should also be said that she could help (like so many stars and people do) without making it a circus. i know it’s to raise awareness but come on people…can you admit that you have coontributed because angelina did.
the fact that you become aware of issues around the world because of a celebrity does not bode well.
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I am no Brangie fan, but Dr. Drew is half-cocked here.
She has never shown any act that could be construed as drug-induced or based.
But. (Didn’t you know there’d have to be a but?)
But she continues to get “high” off of guns and flying and danger. In fact, I see her puke-inducing Mother Angelina act more of a way to get “high” off of goodness.
So Drew is half right, but, man, he’s got to STFU right now or he’ll piss off a lot of people.
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My opinion on the whole charity thing is that it doesn’t really matter whether she’s doing it for herself, or genuinely doing it because she cares. The result is the same in the end. It’s getting done, it’s getting attention, and millions of dollars are going to good causes. Does it matter if she does it to clean up her image or if she does it because she honestly wants to help? Not really, the end result is the same.
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Sorry, but I have trouble believing anything that comes out of the mouth of a reality show host — educational credentials or not.
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Dr. Drew needs to shut his attention sucking pie-hole, already.
To the usual bunch of Angelina haters- ‘Your shit stinks too, your lives aren’t perfect, lots of people start charities because they feel guilty about something like their incredibly privileged lifestyle, your jealousy is palpable and SHE DOESN’T NEED YOUR PERMISSION.’
That last bit is what really irks the lot of you.
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I’ve never been a heroin addict, but I know that with addictions, people who stop something, usually need to start another addiction to take it’s place….sex, tattoos, men, attention…in Angelina’s case, it’s a shit-load of kids, sex, tattoos, working yourself (literally) to the bone, isolation from the general public, attention and serving the world. I personally think she gets off on it in a way that she thinks she’s better then everyone else. She’s always put on that air. Apparently, she has no real girlfriends (as in friends who are girls) and never has. She is reportedly NOT nice to the ‘normal folk’. I think it’s great that ANYONE with money tries to help make the world a better place, but I COULD see a self-serving aspect to it (in her).
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It’s pretty clear to me that she’s now addicted to children. Especially exotic orphans. I mean, who else goes on vacation and brings back a kid as a souvenir? Someone addicted, that’s who.
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I encourage everyone to read the ENTIRE interview, I found it actually very interesting. That one little blip about Anjelina was all he said about her throughout the whole thing. He talks about celebrity addiction in general and also gives his thoughts on individuals like Tom Cruise, Paris Hilton, Brittany Spears and Mel Gibson. And before everyone rips him a new one, Ive yet to see any quotes of were he actually PRAISES Craig Ferguson, Robert Downey Jr and yes, even Lohan for being serious about their sobriety and the paths they’ve taken to recovery. Read the whole thing, its worth it.
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rainy, rainy - go away… don’t come back another day - this isn’t a space for you to advertise your URL!!
In regards to Dr.Drew - I have to say that he’s purposefully being controversial here… he saw where his last comments got him (a bit of publicity) so now he’s craving some more… perhaps it is him who has fallen victim? Now, “addicted to fame”?
Yes, Angelina has fully admitted to being on dope before - but she obviously wasn’t a raging addict. If she had become one, she would have had the track marks to prove it, paired with Amy Weinhouse behavior giving her away, paired with an appearance on the People’s Court. I think she went through her 20s experimenting, and is off of whatever she was on then.
It is obvious to her and Brad that their work gains publicity - but i really don’t care if this is the driving puropse! I work for an NGO and I can tell you that the biggest challenge in everything we do is getting funding. If they wanted to give our org enough money to ensure our sustenance for the next 5 years then disappeared I’d be happy as a clam! Who ELSE is doing this type of work? Paris Hilton? Thinks she gives a dime away to charity?
So, I really don’t give a sh*t what the huge motivation behind her giving funds to those that need it. Point it: she’s doing it, and whether some of you on here care or not: it IS making a difference in improving some people’s lives. If you’ve never bothered to give even close to 5 dollars to an organization trying to do important work, then you ‘ve just lost the privilege from talking from your soap box.
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It is nice to know that someone else who is well known thinks angelina sucks.
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I think he’s absolutely correct. I’m a Counseling Psychologist, but addiction is not my specialty. However, I was on heroin (and cocaine and meth and anything else I could get my hands on) & there is NO WAY to recover without some kind of treatment. She’s probably just embellished her “addiction” stories to seem like more of a badass than she actually is.
She makes me want to barf.
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Yeah, I think Angelina Jolie is a far better human being than Tom Cruise, because Tom Cruise is an evil loser with an evil, dangerous cult, $cientology.
But…
I agree with Dr. Drew. Not on the heroin issue, my half-sister recovered from a heroin addiction and I believe it’s possible to get clean and live a decent lifestyle after using heroin, I’m not going to judge Angelina for that. I’ve never touched any hard drugs, and I never will. But I do smoke cigarettes and pot. I sometimes take shrooms, acid and E. Those are my vices. I’m not judging Angelina about her previous heroin use.
What I do agree about with Dr. Drew (in addition to my belief that Tom Cruise is f-ed up) is that Angelina’s ‘philanthropy’ is self-serving. I just don’t like her. I’m not a Jennifer Aniston fan, and I think the nastiest people in Hollywood are the $cientologists, Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes, John Travolta, Jenna Elfman, Kirstie Alley, Will Smith, Issac Hayes, Nancy Cartwright. But… I really don’t like Angelina Jolie. Ugh…
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I agree with the doctor. She could have donated millions without giving interviews about how much she gives.
Onceshe has the need to publicized her “giving” it is a PR move, rather than actually doing something quietly for others.
She could have volunteered and do all these things just for the sake of helping, but she always makes sure that she is being photographed (with makeup and hair stylists).
Even her treatment of children seems more like an addiction and self serving than actually caring for the children and making sure they are raised in a stable home.
I remember she adopted that child she renamed “Pax” and he was so frightened and didn’t evem know her or understood a word in English.
She took him, whithout visiting him properly before, and had People magazine staff take his picture in a hotel and set up an interview to talk about how she has adopted him.Those are acts that place her ego and image before the well-being of the child.
Same goes for the jet-setting and constant travel that seems as another symptom of her addictions and instability.
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No legitimate ethical physician makes a diagnosis without a through examination and appropriate tests and they only do this with THEIR patients. In the US HIPPA laws preclude the release of a patient’s private health information. This Dr. Drew, who states he has never even met Ms. Jolie, knows nothing about what she may or may not have done except for gossip/hearsay, is a complete fake like Dr. Phil. As a medical professional I am greatly dismayed and upset and hope that this Dr. Drew like Dr. Phil is brought up before his governing Medical Board.
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I haven’t read the article, so I can’t say as to the entire interview, but personally, I think it is in very bad taste for Dr. Drew to comment publicly on ANYONE that he has not treated. That’s Phil McGraw territory. Dr. Drew is actually highly respected, regardless of his ratings/tv show, so I think it shows very poor taste to talk about Brangelina or that wacko Cruise. He should just stick to generalities, period.
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To Angry Me: As a licensed, practicing psychologist, Dr. Drew hasn’t violated any ethics codes. It would be a different matter if she were his patient and he went on record with his inside knowledge. It’s speculation, which, while not advisable, is not an ethical violation. For all I know he could be threatened with a lawsuit, but as far as the APA goes, he’s in the clear.
And also for the record, “Dr” Phil had his license suspended in TX and has never reapplied in any other state. I believe it was due to sexual misconduct…big surprise….
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Dr. Drew appears to be craving publicity. He is losing his credibility and respect people had for him with his asinine comments.
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Wow. I can’t believe you people. You’re all bagging on Angie because she uses her fame for her benefit, but none of you see anything wrong with this famewhore crackpot doc who craves his 5 mins of fame more than a crack addict? What are his attacks on Tom and Angie? Nothing but self-serving, craven famewhoring. He named names for only one reason: To get his ugly, pathetic face on news and get his name talked about. He is no different than Perez Hilton, a pathetic goon who leeches off people’s misery or other people’s fame.
Don’t tell me his show benefits people. Bull. Shows are inherently exploitive, feeding off the misery of people so that the audience can feel better about themselves and he can fatten his checkbook. His bottom-feeding, Jerry Springer-wannabe butt should jump off the Brooklyn bridge and better the world.
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This is the age we live in, anyone can say anything at all about someone they do not personally know, and some will believe what is said no matter what it is. Angelina has stated that she does not do drugs now but has been honest that she experimented 11+ years ago. At no time has she said she was an addict, at no time has she ever not been able to work like Robert Downey, Jr., or been rushed to hospital for medical treatment or rehab or jailed. There is no proof whatsoever to backup this socalled Dr’s assertions. You who are so quick to believe should ask yourself what kind of Dr. proclaims something about a person’s health without ever having treated that person, without any contact at all, in Playboy. The ones with problems are Dr.Drew and any of you who so quickly seize upon his words as the gospel truth. Ask yourselves how this Dr can diagnose anything out of the thin air because that is what Dr. Drew did to get paid by Playboy, they wanted trash and he made up lies, and those who believe trash become trash.
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The good “doctor” is being an ass now. Until THIS I was giving him the benefit of a VH1 doubt but this is the corker. I quit smoking cigarettes which has been compared to being MORE DIFFICULT than quitting heroin and I’m not doing anything to be self serving (whatever THAT is all about) or using any “substitutes” to stay nicotine free. In addition to that I quit drinking 31 years ago too…….I wonder what Pinsky would have to say about THAT?
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I don’t think Dr. Drew is 100% correct based on my personal experiences….I’d say probably 97% which is close enough.
I did a lot of drugs when I was younger and thankfully was able to quit when I decided it was no longer what I wanted. I’m not saying it was easy but I knew I had to do it so I just did. That was over 10 years ago and I haven’t looked back. Unfortunately some of the people I did drugs with are hardcore addicts to this day.
Like a lot of past drug users, I seemed to have “replaced” the drugs with other activities. I have a mild form of OCD that seems to strike me when I’m stressed. I guess my brain just has to obsess about something. Maybe Angelina replaced her drug addiction with family addiction.
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@ Lola, you’re so full of shit.
I was one of the few people genuinely apalled at Drew’s comments on Tom Cruise - here’s one of my comments from that thread:
“Suggesting publicly that Cruise is the product of a neglected, troubled, abusive childhood is very questionable, even if true. It seems highly provocative and unprofessional from someone who makes his living dealing with the mental health well-being of others…..It’s the doc’s professional reputation that’s at stake here and I think he’s made a serious error of judgement.”
And here he is again, showing himself to be even more of a whore-mongering charlatan than he already showed himself to be with his comments on Cruise. Not one ounce of credibility left and for exactly ths same reasons as with Cruise: a professional, credible psychiatrist would never make such ill-advised, ignorant, blanket diagnoses publicly about people he has never met.
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I find his commentary puzzling, if nothing else.
He makes the point that a heroin addict, once they stop using, can never again live life without, eventually, returning to heroin/opiate use. He seems to believe, based on his statements relating to this specific case and from what I’ve heard on ‘Loveline’, that the exception to this is that if she is involved in ongoing ‘recovery’. So a physiological addiction to an opiate can only be arrested by attending recovery meetings, working The Twelve Steps and going through the specific program requirements of AA? So only the thought changes that occur by involvement in AA can never be achieved in any other way for an addict? This is typical AA rhetorical that makes it feel like such an ****ing cult. And he accuses Cruise’s involvement in Scientology as problematic, but AA is benign? Dr. Drew, sickeningly, waves the AA flag and pushes it on anyone who ever calls into his stupid ****ing show and admits to using drugs or alcohol. Believe me, I’ve been in AA and it is ****ing whack. For an M.D. to promote only a spiritual cult as a solution to a physiological condition is ridiculous. Do people overcome addictions, including opiate addictions, without AA ‘recovery’. Of course they do. What’s wrong with this guy? -
I find his commentary puzzling, if nothing else. He makes the point that a heroin addict, once they stop using, can never again live life without, eventually, returning to heroin/opiate use. He seems to believe, based on his statements relating to this specific case and from what I’ve heard on ’Loveline’, that the exception to this is involvement in ongoing ’recovery’, namely AA. So a physiological addiction to an opiate can only be arrested by attending recovery meetings, working The Twelve Steps and going through the specific program requirements of AA? He seems to always be pushing this point: that the ‘thought changes’ made in AA, which ‘remove’ physiological and psychological addiction, can never be achieved in any other way for an addict. This is the typical AA rhetoric that makes it feel like such an fucking cult. Yet he accuses Cruise’s involvement in Scientology as problematic and AA as totally benign. Dr. Drew, consistently and sickeningly, waves the AA flag and pushes it on anyone who ever calls into his stupid fucking show admitting to using drugs or alcohol. Believe me, I’ve been in AA and it’s ridiculous. For an M.D. to promote a spiritual cult as the only solution to a physiological condition is antiquated. Do people overcome addictions, including opiate addictions, without AA ’recovery’? Of course they do. I know dozens of ex-heroin addicts who haven’t used in years and don’t crave it, yet I seriously doubt that they are involved in consistent ’selfless service’. This AA issue is so fucking deep, I don’t even know where to begin, but, at least, people are finally onto it. What’s wrong with this guy?
P.S. Co-host Stryker from ‘Loveline’- run for your life!
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Then Dr. Drew is certainly not fighting any sort of an addiction because he is completely self serving.
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Another thing that really struck me about the Dr. Drew quote is the sideways implication that she was/is still using drugs throughout two pregnancies. Surely that’s a breach of medical ethics, or at least ‘libel’ in a civil case.
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Meant to say *media whore-mongering charlatan earlier.
Totally agree, kaiser/hipp. The implications are libellous.
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Geronimo,
when I wrote my comment, I didn’t know that you had become a full fledged Brangeloonie. Go back to that thread and read the comments from the resident Brangeloonies showering praises on the good old doctor for his qualifications and insight. Now they have changed their minds because he is in on them. I don’t remember mentioning you specifically.
I am not diagnosing Angelina with any addiction, I often wondered how she beat an addiction like that, remember she had been using heroin for years. My take is that she substituted it with marriage wrecking, collecting kids and obsessive charity.
Dr Drew is just repeating what I have always said, Angelina’s charity is self serving and so far, what has changed in Iraq since she went there? Namibia? Vietnam? Nothing, yet credit has been given to her and she has itched closer to sainthood. The biggest benefactor of her do gooding is : Angelina Jolie. Three years ago she was just another actress, now she is a global phenomenon that she wanted to be, commanding a huge salary because of the additional fame, with all the attention she craved (re- vials of blood, kissing brother) but had eluded her.
It does not take a genius to work out that she does not hold even a single kind bone in her skinny veined body. No kind person treats a fellow human being like she did Aniston.
Good for those who have gained from her self serving acts, the kids especially, but we will see the future she gives them before we canonise her.
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I really hope his comments were taken out of context because I really like Dr. Drew, and all of the sudden he’s been putting his foot in his mouth a lot. Stop it! You’re so much better than a Dr. Phil, so don’t start acting like one!
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Hmm, let’s talk about “self-serving”. What is the motivation of a psychologist who chooses to get his message out in PLAYBOY, of all places? Yeah guys, I know, it’s got good articles…..
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his comments on cruise are ridiculous and speculatory psycho-babble and since he is a specialist in addiction I would rather he not fish around for motivational reasons for cruise’s involvement in that church. who knows what the reason is and who cares. dr. drew solves nothing by offering his opinion on why someone chooses a particular religion/cult. does he have ideas for every single person who is a scientologist? is every single one of them suffering from neglect in their childhood and abuse? most likely not. his divining and speculations piss me off and he should know, as a doctor, to not diagnose before meeting the “patient.”
on jolie, his comments are indeed verging on the libelous. what about nicole richie who was doing heroin? is she in treatment? did she do drugs throughout her pregnancy and now into motherhood? so so so many people in hollywood and everywhere else have dabbled and experimented with drugs and dont make life long habits of it. jolie never said she was a full-blown heroin addict. she used it recreationally as so many people use hard-core and highly addictive drugs recreationally without developing debilitating addictions. these people never make it into dr. drew’s office so his knowledge of addicts is made up of very serious cases and he isnt dealing with the majority of the recreational types.
and please, monica, no one cares about you personally thinking she has bipolar. you are not qualified to diagnose anyone and its so ignorant to think you have some god’s eye view of her psyche and know what kind of ‘disorders’ she has. ugh people like you are annoying.
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For those of you who insist that she has not had any plastic surgery. Look at her face here and on the wanted posts. She’s not pregnant there.
Anyway, the Brangeloonies are after Dr. Drew. Perhaps you should take in mind that he is a medical doctor,he’s a psychiatrist. He’s not like Dr. Phil for those of you who don’t comprehend these things. A psychiatrist carries more weight than a psychologist. It’s been my experience that people who work with addictions so closely can pick out someone on the street us is using and may be trying to hide it, when others can’t.
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dr. drew is an idiot.
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I don’t know if shes on illegal drugs or not..Sometimes she sounds like a moron, with some of the crap that comes out of her mouth. I agree tho, that her charities are self serving. Its called Tax write off. And one time she gave money to her own organization, the Maddox /Jolie Foundation..and then she shut the organization down????.
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It’s all in the past, who doesn’t have issues? She’s not on drugs, she just doesn’t have that much make-up on?
Whatever it is she is beauiful, Hot and a good mother!
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The Maddox Jolie-Pitt Foundation is very active in Cambodia and Angelina and Brad provide much money to support it. Established in 2003 as the Maddox Jolie Foundation the name was changed in 2007 to the Maddox Jolie-Pitt Foundation. It seeks to erradicate extreme rural poverty, conserving natural resources and wildlife. In addition there is the Maddox Jolie-Pitt project providing health care for children in Cambodia also supported by Angelina and Brad.
It is so much easier to lie than spend a few minutes finding the truth for some people.
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I am a practicing psychiatrist and I know that no person can be diagnosed from the safety of one’s armchair in writing an article without ever treating that patient. Never. I am ashamed to have this person in my profession. The almighty $$ means more to him than his professional duties and responsibilities. His patients (if he truly has any) are ill served by his actions.
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Lola says:
“Three years ago she was just another actress, now she is a global phenomenon that she wanted to be, commanding a huge salary because of the additional fame…”Pre-Lola-prescribed “global phenomenon” salary, in 2003’s Tomb Raider 2: $15 million.
Post-”global phenom” salary, in 2007’s A Mighty Heart: $1 million.Why do you lie so much, Lola? And why all the repeats on this thread? Shouldn’t you be projectile vomiting by now?
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This guy is just another quack. He knows nothing about Jollie > He has NO idea of she ever was addicted to heroin. He talks to hear himself talk like Dr. Phil. I think it is time for these people he has been trashing to sue his quack ass. Another phony trying to make a buck of a celeb.
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WOW! Dr. Drew is a douche bag if he really believes that sh*t. My father-in-law was a heroin JUNKIE. When i say junkie i mean just that. No less than $600 dollars a day of that stuff, every day. He has been sober for 17 yrs w/o having oxycontin or any other bullsh*t replace it. This Dr. Drew just wants to be in the spotlight by saying crap like this. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
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thank you to the psychiatrist who posted under “to country-babe” for making the crucial point that you cannot diagnose people without treating/meeting them first.
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I got nothing to say about Dr. Drew’s comments because its all been said and better than I could but I got something to say to Lola. I think the real Brangeloonie here is you. You and the rest of the haters (countrybabe I’m looking at you) post in nearly every article about Angelina, why? just to say you hate her. As to your claim that the Brangeloonies were backing Dr. Drew when he had shit to say about Tom. You are so full of it! How can you possibly know that those who were backing his comments were fans of Angie. Are you saying that only Angie’s fans hate Tom Crusie? Your logic confounds me. I have never called out someone on this site before ’cause I think its pointless to argue online but you pissed me right the f*ck off. Get help sweetie, your rants are starting to show a dangerous level of obsession.
Funny thing is I was pretty neutral about the whole Brad, Angie, Jennifer thing till I noticed that almost every article about Brangelina got a knee jerk response. It’s still amazing to me the amount of lies and nonsense gossip that B&A and Jen generate. I’m well aware that there are those that trash Jennifer every chance they get and those people are just as nutso in my opinion. *Shakes head wondering when the madness will end*
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I agree with 69, this doctor only wants to be in the spotlight, isn’t he the one that said something about Tom Cruise and then had to apologize?
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Wow, I used to love Dr. Drew, but ever since he started doing that stupid VH1 show and making these Dr. Phil-esque statements, he has lost all credibility in my eyes.
I am not a Brangeloonie, but this was irresponsible. Besides, who cares if her charity work is “self-serving?” At least other people are benefiting from it, too — unlike anything Lohan or Paris does everyday with their meaningless lives.
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I didn’t lie about the Maddox/Jolie foundation, I read that she shut it down..She may have reopened it in another name, but she did shut the original one down!
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Who cares if Angelina is self-serving in her humanitarian efforts? Whether she is doing it for her image, or she actually wants to help the world, the fact is she IS doing something to make the world a better place, more than you & me, and anybody who questions her motives is just retarded. It’s beside the point!
I dont really care whether she has had plastic surgery, everyone in hollywood has, but its kinda unfair to call her the sexiest woman in the world or the most beautiful when its all the result of a plastic surgeon!
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Angelina : dump your millions to charity and don’t tell ANYONE. Don’t advertise it; Don’t call the paps ! then go away. I don’t care about your exotic spawn babies and am reaaallyyy TIRED of seeing them;
and she must be using Pitt’s bucks because she CAN’T have made billions based on the movies that SHE has made. Bette Davis she is NOT
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f**k angelina… she’s a husband stealer and a hypocrite!!!!
go dr. drew!!!
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Heroin is an extremely dangerous and addictive drug- for all of you who were able to roll over one morning and quit without looking back- god bless- however, you are a freak of an exception- i do not know angie’s intentions for mentioning it- but whatever they are- especially as a very public figure among impressionable young people, it is irresponsible of her to not remind people of how dangerous it is- how people lose everything- that she is the exception- the tragic stories she is aware of and that most people will ae in recoverey the rest of their lives- so if her motive was to help others and not just come across as a badass- that might have been very helpful to someone- not the flippant bullshit she spouted off
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I was neutral about her and Pitt too but the more I see articles about her, the more I hate her and I don’t think she is genuine.
However Dr Drew has no right to diagonise people in his chair. But he is right about Angelina’s chrity being self serving. 90% of the population think like that anyway. Go out on the streets and ask, most people will tell you that. Stealing a husband was bad for her image, all this is to clean it up, otherwise whe would have done more than be un ambassador before Pitt. I think secretly she is bothered that people hate her and she is doing all she can to change that. How else do you explain taking up charity commitments she cannot keep? You cannot improve education in NY and NO and eradicate poverty everywhere in the third world, with six children etc that is insane, she just want her hand everywhere to get recognised. May be there will be a concert in her memory when she dies, if people eventually start liking her. Which is not soon.
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lola: “she has itched closer to sainthood.”
Yeah, I’m a bit itchy right now too.
“It does not take a genius to work out that she does not hold even a single kind bone in her skinny veined body. No kind person treats a fellow human being like she did Aniston.”
Good grief. What is with these people and their bone-vibrating hatred of someone they don’t even know?
What I really want to know is, how come so many people yell “Husband stealer!” at the new woman, but don’t direct any anger towards the man who ended the marriage?
You know lola, it’s actually Brad Pitt who left Aniston, and hurt her. Are you mad at him at all, or do you find some twisted way to let him off the hook? Do you think he’s cute, or something lame like that? -
@ CB Rawks : f**k off…i’m entitled to my own opinion…yeah, brad pitt got tempted but she’s the main reason why brad strayed in his marriage…so yes Angelina is very much a husband stealer…if she did not intend to break the marriage in the first place, why is she with brad???
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He’s absolutely right about her constant charity being completely self serving. She always makes sure the media know all about it, are present or receive photos covering everything that she did. Pluh-ease!
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Are you kidding me!!!!Self serving??The world should wish people would choose to self-serv in this manner.I’m no big fan either way-but I know what happened to her.You travel outside your own country for any length of time and those little faces stay with you.Pretty simple.
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It’s not very professional to diagnose someone by reading about them in tabloids. Dr. Drew is not doing his reputation any favors. What if she realized that she was wasting her life and rededicated herself to being a good person after going through her problems? Dr. Drew should spend his time diagnosing his patients and spend less time worrying about Tom and Angelina.
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WHY is he speculating on her or anyone else without actually speaking to them?
The obviouses… TOM CRUISE has SOMETHING wrong with him and lets go all psycho babble.. its mommys fault somehow. MMMKAY??
Angelina Jolie.. Off Heroin..now addicted to kids. Shocking? NO. Bad childhood? Yes. So what? So what.
To state that HEROIN Addicts are ALWAYS on something is really unprofessional. While many are on meds to control their urges and alot are on anti depressants… WHO IS HE to out that? If he were her doc ,its a breech of doc/patient confidentiality. If he thought he was helping some addict, he just handed them the reason they dont SEEK help…its &#
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