Octomom receives 4-5k/mo in welfare, “we’re all entitled to change our minds”

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Update: Due to the sheer amount of Octomom news, I’m just going to update our earlier story with this latest news. Octomom Nadya Suleman did an interview with GMA this morning. (Video above.) She explained away those photos of her trashed home, at least she explained some of them. She said that she was potty training the kids outside, and that no children were ever locked in a room – the chair against the door was to keep them out of that room. (Since she doesn’t have enough door gates, apparently.) She never explained why there’s graffiti all over her home or why her children sleep on the floor.

Also, GMA reported that Suleman told them she receives 4-5 thousand a month in public assistance. This is much more than the 2k a month in food stamps she previously claimed. If it’s being used toward caring for her children then that’s good, but I doubt it’s all going to that.

When Suleman was asked about the $540 check for haircuts, she claimed that it was for her hair and for her 14 other kids as well. So even if the kids were charged a steep $20 each and she was charged $50, that’s still about $200 short. At that point she got a real look of defiance on her face and said “I am making money though. I have jobs and I can afford it.” When she was questioned about the fact that she’s on public assistance, she claimed “It’s almost over. This is our last month on food stamps..” Remember when she said she got about $2k/month food stamps? Now she’s getting $4-5k a month, so which is it?

Here’s a photo of her face at that point.

And here’s her face later when she gets pissed that she is called out for the fact that she said she would never go on assistance again. She snipes “We’re human beings and we’re all entitled to change our mind.”

Oh and she claims she’s been “set up” with those photos of her home, but GMA has footage that shows that the house is totally trashed with broken windows, graffiti and water damage.

That house is going on the market soon. The owner recently revealed that the bank is auctioning off the home on Monday. Where are this lady and her kids going to go at that point? Is she going to move back in with her parents, where she was living with her then 6 kids before the octuplets came?

Here’s our earlier story.



Yesterday we heard that news that Octomom Nadya Suleman’s hairdresser had turned her in to the police, and subsequently Child Protective Services, for potential child neglect. The stylist had photos of the home and described the conditions that Suleman’s 14 children were living in. It sounded and looked very shocking to some of us. The walls were tagged with graffiti from actual spray paint, as if her older children had a can and went wild. We heard that her eight three year-olds were walking around without clothes and going to the bathroom in potties in the back yard, that some of the children were sleeping on the floor, and that a chair was propped against a door to keep children from leaving a room. Some of you defended Suleman, saying that she was doing the best she could and we shouldn’t judge her. I may have had that opinion if I read this story before knowing much about this woman. I’ve covered her for years and have read and watched countless interviews with her. She’s a scamming con artist who has been using the system for years. I write that in all certainty given the many details I’ve learned about her, most recently that she spent over $500 on hair treatments while on food stamps to afford to feed her children. She hasn’t paid rent on her home in over a year.

Of course everything is fine in Suleman’s world, and she has excuses for all of it. CPS investigated her after the complaint we heard about, and the public relations person from social services told E! that this is far from the worst case they’ve seen. The police department also announced that a preliminary investigation found no neglect and that there will be no follow up, basically.

But on Tuesday, according to the La Habra Police Department, Octomom was the subject of an investigation by both the city’s finest and the Orange County Social Services after a woman told police she had concerns about the well-being of Suleman’s children.

However, La Habra PD today announced that no signs of neglect or maltreatment were noted during the investigation and no further actions were being taken. And despite unsanitary reports to the contrary, La Habra police tell E! News the Suleman’s home plumbing was indeed functional at the time of the visit.

As for the investigation itself, while Orange County Social Services does not comment specifically on individual investigations, Terry Lynn Fisher, the public information officer of the department, explained how the Suleman run-through likely played out.

“You have to look at the whole picture, not just one thing,” she told E! News. “There are days when the plumbing goes out and you have to call a plumber. It’s not against the law for people to leave unfolded laundry on the floor. It’s not against the law to allow kids to draw on the walls and create masterpieces.”

Which isn’t to say that’s the condition investigators were met with. Though as for another reported aspect of the Suleman home—namely that there were outdoor training toilets on the property—Fisher noted that had that been the case, it wouldn’t necessarily merit a violation.

“Look, she’s toilet-training eight 3-year-olds,” Fisher said. “While the situation may not meet your or my idea, it’s not against the law.”

Besides, Fisher said that she saw photos of the octo-house and said it was far from the worst of what she’s experienced.

“While her home isn’t in pristine condition, it’s not against the law. It’s nothing like the homes we have seen. I’ve seen a home where the walls looked like they were moving, cockroaches crawling up and down the wall, even falling out of the ceiling.

“Our goal is not to remove kids from the families. It’s to strengthen the families. We make every attempt to let families stay together. We don’t yank kids from the home unnecessarily. If we get a call that a child is being neglected, they would look at the conditions, see if any immediate risk that would place the children in danger.”

[From E! Online]

In yesterday’s thread, there were some horror stories of abuse and neglect you’d witnessed where children were never removed from the homes. It was sad, but it put this in perspective to me. As a mom, I find it abhorrent that anyone would have this many kids on purpose, not take care of them properly and refuse help and supplies (but not money!) so that they’re all comfortable and well cared for. I guess there’s no law against being a sh*tty parent or making your kids live in squalor as long as you do the bare minimum.

After those photos leaked yesterday, Suleman hired a team of maids at Dr. Drew’s expense, since Drew had offered her free maid service for a year. She’ll probably never hire a painter, since she needs the money for mani-pedis, and Botox. We know where her priorities are. Octo no longer has to pay to get her hair straightened, though. The Brazilian Blowout company, which manufactures the chemicals used for the hair straightening process she paid over $500 for, has just offered her free treatments along with free childcare while she gets her hair done at their LA salon.

Octomom Nadya Suleman

Octomom Nadya Suleman

Octomom Nadya Suleman

Octomom Nadya Suleman

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  1. Mia says:

    Even though given with good intentions, those freebies are rewarding octomom for bad behavior and giving her attention – its precisely what she wants! When normal ppl neglect their kids, people rightfully judge them and try to find better homes for the children. When Nadya neglects her kids, we just reward her and coax her into doing what she legally has to be doing – taking care of her kids – by giving her free maid service or free blowouts. Sick.

    • ladybert62 says:

      I agree with you 100% – rewarding bad behavior is right! The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

      • Michelle says:

        My sentiments exactly. I don’t know how to look at it. On one hand, it’s so awesome to see that strangers are willing to pitch in for help because they’re concerned about those kids; it shows they’re still good people left in this world. On the other hand, they’re also enabling her. It enrages me how much this lady is not only abusing her children, but the generosity of people. What point does she have to hit before she sees the damage she’s done? I’m not even a mother yet but stories like this make me tear up.

      • Willow says:

        ^^ agree x2. The companies are just using her for advertising. She doesn’t care as long as SHE gets what SHE wants. While I like the idea of offering items in lieu of cash to her why can’t companies provide the children with necessities to which she has no access, like free hair cuts for the children instead of her? Why can’t a trustee be set in place for any donations to the children?
        The saddest thing is that the children will most likely imitate the behaviour they see. Can you imagine 14 little Nadyas???

      • autumndaze says:

        This was also my thought. She is so loathsome. I am ashamed that all I see when I look at her is “ugly”.
        I believe that fertility physician should have been made to put money into a fund for the kids and the account overseen by an attorney.
        This woman will only spend money on herself.

    • Rita says:

      Any time someone accepts, takes, or is given something they have not honestly earned on the field of fair play, it enables them to expect more and they continue down the road of “I exist, therefore I am entitled”.

      That goes for the one-percenters as well.

    • katie says:

      I totally agree. I am so glad you said it.

    • Carolyn says:

      Agree. I only care about the children and wish authorities would step in once and for all and split them up and give them to decent people who can properly care for them. This woman’s gravy train has to end. It’s not doing anyone any favours.

    • Maguita says:

      Well, if everyone keeps on encouraging her to be an irresponsible tw-t, guess what? She is going to keep on being an irresponsible tw-t.

      The reality is, she uses her children as emotional leverage. She manipulates people, because REAL PEOPLE, cannot stand and watch children being poor, malnourished, unloved, uncared for, and most importantly, paying for their imbecilic parent’s mistakes and self-served attitude.

      From the beginning, she used her first 6 children to emotionally manipulate her parents into letting her live for free in their house, and taking care of her children, while she continuously scammed the system.

      Her parents had their home foreclosed, and if I’m not mistaken, they are no longer together, and don’t see their grand-kids. Or at least, that was what the father had said a few months back.

      Dr. Drew had offered her cleaning service. The hairdresser’s offered her free services. Was it also Oprah who had offered her free financial advice? Didn’t Dr. Phil put down payment on her house? Didn’t she get free diapers and baby formula for all 8 of her newborns for a year?

      All for free. Because no one can stand seeing those kids being neglected. And for us human beings not to see this, we have no choice but to also help the shitty mother along the way.

      This morning, it was announced that the house she is living in is going to be auctioned off soon, because she hasn’t paid for it in over a year.

  2. TXCinderella says:

    I’ve seen this woman in interviews and she has serious issues (narcissistic personality disorder). She reminds me of two people I know who have the disorder. It’s all about her, and she likes the attention. She’s fasting talking, conniving, and always has an excuse ready. How can she afford $500 haircuts, Aeropostale clothes, and lip injections when she has 14 children and no job? I have a good job, one child, and there is no way I could afford those things. The woman is a wack-job! I do feel sorry for the children though.

  3. sarahtonin says:

    It really offends me that this hideous bitch gets all this comped stuff just because she is an unfit mother. Does anyone else think this was a PR stunt just to get more freebies? I bet she was in on it from the start.

    • Macey says:

      I DO!! This happens every.single.time.

      Its disgusting, I remember her whining about not being able to pay her gym membership and not a day later someone comes along and pays it for a year. Now she’s getting free hair care. Its amazing how she gets away with so much criminal activity that some people actually do jail time for. Like the Workmans Comp and student loan scams and all the others but b/c she birthed out a litter all is forgiven and she’s given even more freebies and government hand outs. She could really write a book on how to work the system b/c this thing has it down to a science.

      • Candyland says:

        What student loan scam?

      • Cindy says:

        @Candy,

        That’s how she paid for all her IVF treatments (they’re NOT cheap). She used student loan money that was supposed to go towards tuition. She also used workman’s comp money, because her back was too injured to work, but not too injured for 6 pregnancies in 8 years, including carrying octuplets.

        As a working person who struggles to pay for IVF legitimately so my husband and I can have 1 child, I kind of hate this bitch with the fire of 1,000 suns.

      • gg says:

        @ Candyland – That’s how she financed roughly 15 or 20 years of vanity surgeries, fertility treatments (which are VERY $$$$$$$), salon costs, botox, etc. Claimed she had some trumped-up degree in Psychology, of all things. Oh, the irony.

        Talk shows give her free stuff like maids, etc., offer job training and she never takes them up on it, insisting she can do it herself.

        She is a Con Artist in the extreme and does not respect her parents, or anybody.

      • gg says:

        I just want to add that everytime I see her surgically clownish, gaping maw, I am very tempted to stuff a few large roaches in it. She lies and says they’re real. They’re not. See her before photos:
        http://www.liposuction360.com/51/octomom-before-and-after-plastic-surgery-photos/

        Nose job, lower eyelid work, lips, you name it. She claims her oldest daughter, who “inherited” her abnormally large lips, gets teased in school and hides them. She’s got several lines of excuses for everything she’s caught lying about. It defies description.

    • bluhare says:

      Two words: Kate Gosselin.

  4. Nanz says:

    I think your representation of Octomess is accurate. So now she’s being rewarded with free hair treatments. Wonderful. I’d be more impressed if the company had offered to buy $500+ worth of food each month for the kids. They have also offered to pay for babysitting while she gets “pampered.” it pains me to judge other mothers because I know every one of us struggles. But a woman who won’t accept much-needed help for her kids, but will take free hair products gets no sympathy from me. She is a con artist just like you said. And she’s bat sh*t crazy to boot.

  5. lucy2 says:

    There is NO defending her, other than to say she’s mentally ill, but I also think she’s plenty aware of what she’s doing.

    I think it’s disgusting companies are giving her freebies. If you want to help, help the kids, but don’t give her a thing for herself.

  6. Laurie M. says:

    Why is Brazilian Blowout REWARDING her for fraudulently spending tax dollars in their products? I say BOYCOTT THAT COMPANY!!!!

    • Jag says:

      Agreed! I wouldn’t ever use their products, knowing that they support a mother buying vanity haircuts rather than clothing her children. Boycott!

      • wunder says:

        Brazilian Blowout’s response to the Octo-Scammer’s situation was totally inappropriate.

        So now the company wants to be an ENABLER for the Octo-Scammer’s bad behavior??? Duh!

        As long as various companys keep giving her stuff for free, she will keep popping out kids for EVERYONE ELSE TO SUPPORT-NOT HER!!! They are providing her with a powerful incentive NOT to be an accountable parent-or a contributing member of society for that matter.

        Brazilian Blowout is STUPID. I won’t buy any of thier products/services anymore.

        Why should WE HAVE TO PAY for thier products/services when THEY GIVE IT TO THE OCTO-SCAMMER FOR FREE???

        It’s just an outright INSULT to all of their loyal, long time paying consumers because now we have to subsidize the Octo-Scammer’s hair.
        (I didn’t know that Brazilian Blowout treated it’s customers to free ‘babysitting services’-did you? What other Moms who use thier products/services got that from them????)

        Consumers of Brazilian Blowout products/services shouldn’t be treated like second class CHUMPS by Brazilian Blowout just because of that vile Octo-Scammer. What a turn off! I’m very dissappointed with that company. They may have gained a free Octo-Scammer, but now those idiots have lost PAYING customers over this insulting nonsense.

        YES, I WILL 100% BOYCOTT THOSE JERKS!!!!!

        (whew. . . glass of water plz)

  7. sunmoonstars says:

    She’s gross but that’s not abuse. I’m from Appalachia and there are people who don’t have indoor plumbing even to this day. She may be neglectful, but “neglect” is a pretty big umbrella. As a libertarian-minded person I have a huge problem with people calling for more government intervention into people’s private business. Of course we need to keep people from abusing children but we don’t want to end up like the UK, where they take kids from parents because they want to raise them Christian, or hold “unpopular” opinions. It’s a slippery slope and a lot of times foster care is where real abuse happens*.

    Oh, and half the time I don’t bother to dress my kid either. I live at the beach and I don’t care, she might as well enjoy being able to go topless while she can :D But we hillbillies tend to view parenting differently…lol.

    *ETA: Octomom is a special case though, she’s putting her private business out there and deserves scrutiny, especially since we the taxpayers are footing the bills.

  8. Fritzi Schnitzer says:

    I sent the Brazilian Blowout company an email telling them that by associating with and comping her, they have lost my business forever. Hopefully many others will follow suit. This is not acceptable.

  9. DeltaJuliet says:

    I don’t understand how “we’ve seen worse” is an argument to do nothing. There is ALWAYS something worse; it doesn’t mean this situation is acceptable. That is one hell of a weak statement.

    • NerdMomma says:

      Because working for CPS is a stressful, low-paying job, they are understaffed and have extremely limited resources, and focus needs to remain on the families that are in the greatest need. In a perfect world, there would be unlimited loving foster and adoptive families just waiting to welcome needy kids into their homes but there’s not. And in a perfect world, CPS would be well-staffed with people who have the time to concentrate on a few families at a time but unfortunately that’s not how it works. It’s reality.

      • MorticiansDoItDeader says:

        In NJ CPS advertises “social work” positions starting at $48,000 (for anyone with any type of bachelors degree). They also get heath and dental benefits and pension. Those additional benefits are worth (at least) an additional $12,000 plus a year. So I would say the CPS employees in MY state are doing well for themselves.

      • DeltaJuliet says:

        I know reality. I work in a field that works closely with CPS and related fields. We see A LOT of sh!t and a lack of employees or a small budget is never enough of a reason for us not to act.

        Obviously none of us are involved in Octomom’s exact situation. But I’m just saying “we’ve seen worse” isn’t going to make anyone feel better when something tragic happens.

    • wunder says:

      Right!

      BAD shouldn’t be ‘better’ than WORSE!!!

      With that stupid sort of thinking, things will always STAY BAD and WORSE will just continue to get WORSE.

  10. Lithe says:

    Good for Brazilian Blowout, taking such a tough stance with her. They sure taught her a lesson. Now if only Starbucks and A&F would stop coddling her.

  11. Franny says:

    The kind of service’s she is getting is doing the same no good as shows like Teen Mom are doing – crazies and teens see what they can get if they have tons of children/children really young, and boom…all of a sudden we’re going to have 100 octomoms, or ninomoms or whatever just so they can get their hair straightened for free.

    Its sick.

  12. Macey says:

    I think this is going to backfire for the BB co. Ppl are already commenting their disgust of their decision on their FB wall

    http://www.facebook.com/TheBrazilianBlowout?v=wall

  13. SolitaryAngel says:

    I’m so sorry to say this, but I believe in my heart (which cries for those poor kids) that it’s gonna take a tragedy before any positive change comes in these childrens’ lives. And all we’ll hear from CA CPS is excuses.

    • Maguita says:

      I unfortunately have the same fears @SolitaryAngel.

      How easy it is for a kid to very badly, and even irrevocably, hurt himself or one of his siblings in such an environment, free of adult supervision.

      And let us not discuss the fact that unsupervised environment could be quite an attraction for pedophiles. I shudder.

    • ZenB!tch says:

      Unfortunately CPS is right (based on the current economic situation in the state) there are so many worse cases in California, some may even be well meaning moms who lost it all in the Recession (capital R in Central CA) and are homeless or in squalor.

      Also, unless someone lines up and adopts these kids they will be taken away from her and shuttled individually through the system. If they even have places for them. Our budget is non-existent. It’s almost a miracle they came out.

      • the original bellaluna says:

        CPS has been doing things like this for a long, long time in Cali.

        When I lived in SoCali, I witnessed a tweeker physically THROW her youngest, FAS boy against the wall. (Her boys were Irish twins – one year apart to the day – and her military husband had left her.) Her power was shut off, and she had an extension cord draped across the common area between our two buildings. There was no food in her fridge, and the only thing in her cabinets was roaches.

        She convinced her disabled, unemployed mother to get her utilities turned back on prior to CPS coming to investigate. She borrowed food from a few of her other tweeker neighbours, to fill fridge and cabinets. (Someone had tipped her off.)

        Guess what happened? NOTHING. Until the disabled, unemployed grandmother stepped in and applied for custody of the kids, since tweek-bitch was being evicted for non-payment of rent.

        And don’t even get me started on the shivering little 6-year-old girl in her nightgown who was making toast for her 5 younger siblings with the toaster plugged into the outlet outside the laundry room at dawn. (Tweeker-grandma had custody because tweeker-hooker daughter was in jail.)

        It’s shameful. And this was over 18 years ago!

  14. skipper says:

    You know, I had one small child and considered chopping my hair off because it was always in the way. It seems really suspect that she had 14 small kids and hair that long. Aren’t they always tugging on it and wiping their noses with it?

    • NerdMomma says:

      Are you saying it’s suspicious as to whether she actually has 14 kids or actually has long hair? LOL

      • ZenB!tch says:

        Suspicious as to how often she interacts with the kids. I’m not a mom but my BFF cut off her lovely long blond locks when she became a mom. She also stopped wearing dangling earrings and cute clothes… no she wasn’t letting herself go she was being practical. The pulling hurt and the spit up on nice clothes was creating the dry cleaning bill from hell. Now her kids are older and the long hair, dangling earrings and nice clothes are back.

    • the original bellaluna says:

      With my first, I kept my hair long; with my second, I chopped it to chin length; with the baby, I keep it in a bun and get at least 6 inches cut off whenever I get it cut.

      But even with one toddler (the other two are adults who no longer live with us), I don’t have the time to even get my hair blow-dried after I get it cut. :)

    • kimlee says:

      Meh, my hair is that length and it never interferes with childcare- airdry + ponytail. Boom. I see tons of fundie religious women who keep their hair way longer no matter how many kids they pop out.

      I’m always more impressed at how mothers in the 1940′s/1950′s/1960s would spend so much time rolling their (short-medium length) hair at night and then styling perfectly it in the morning. What a nightmare.

      • the original bellaluna says:

        I agree; I don’t own a blow-dryer, don’t colour or highlight my hair, and thus don’t have those problems. And my hair is bone-straight. If I want waves, I braid or French-braid it while it’s still wet, and it’s down to my bum.

  15. teehee says:

    I think whats worrying people so much about this, is not necessarily squalor.
    Sure it may not be the worst case ever seen and they may not be in eminent danger or harm, but rather, the children are being imprinted on a daily basis, that their needs are not important and that they are not valuable and not wanted. That is severe “abuse” which will remain with the children forever, even if they overcome it– it will darken all their memories and bring them difficulty in their life all the time. They are learning all the wrong things abotu themselves and worse, all the wrong things about parents- if they ever decide to become one themselves.

  16. FFS says:

    Just because she had a shitload of kids doesn’t mean she doesn’t deserve anything for herself. I’m not saying she’s not a system sucking scum fk, but all I see is people screaming like moms lose all of their autonomy and individuality after birth. That is so backwards.

    • Candyland says:

      1. She’s on welfare. So how come she’s got $500 for her hair? I sure don’t and I ain’t on welfare.

      2. She refused to fix the plumbing so the toilets would work. $150 was the cost. But she pays for her hair. Which is more important? Hair? Toilets?

      3. She’s having a team of people come clean the house. Since she ain’t working why don’t she clean it? It sure must be dirty to need a team. Would you let your kids live like that? If she cleaned up them she might be more deserving of some pampering.

  17. Courtney says:

    for once CPS is investigating something that actually needs to be investigated not a Nuisance case against a celebrity

  18. hillbillygirl45 says:

    I totally agree this woman is nothing but a con-artist, and was from the get-go. How can she justify drawing thousands of dollars in food stamps, and, then being able to afford mani-pedi’s, botox, various other procedures done to her face and body? And WTF is wrong with “Dr.” Drew?! God, I feel sorry for those kids, she is just another self-absorbed idiot that thinks everything is ALL about her….

  19. Candyland says:

    So whatta bout her putting a chair against the door to lock her kids into their room? Someone gonna give her free locks to keep them locked in?

    Why the heck ain’t that considered abuse?

  20. TXCinderella says:

    I agree, it’s teenager clothing.

  21. Brannie says:

    Until reality television becomes a thing of the past and the Kardashians, teen moms and everyone else stops being rewarded for being famewhores, this crap will continue.

    It appalling what our society has become.

  22. Stubbylove says:

    It’s refreshing to know California’s CPS standards are in check – yup, roaches are when we draw the line. Good. Good.

    • wunder says:

      Yep. The Cali CPS can add thier check marks next to all of that. They can also check off the box for all the PEDOPHILES who might be targeting Octo-Morons nekkid chirruns running around and pooping outside.

      Clearly Octo-Trash DOESN’T CARE WHO SEES THEM. She lets her chirruns be exposed to everyone including would be pervs with a camera phone.

  23. Blue says:

    Well since everyone is all about giving her freebies, I sure hope someone is going to offer free therapy to all these kids in a few years.

  24. OXA says:

    When one of the older feral kids (maybe the tagger)kills or mames one of the octuplets perhaps CPS will step in to save them babies from the insanity.
    She is off her rocker and has never put her kids needs ahead of her own desires, as evidenced by the same filth and squalor the 6 she already had were living in when she decided to have another litter.
    Oh and lets not forget that they will have nowhere to live next week but her hair will look stunning.

    • Jag says:

      If one of the children hurts one of its siblings, CPS will call that a normal childhood because everyone was hurt by a sibling at some point – and other children were hurt worse.

      Only if – heaven forbid – one of the children dies will anything ever be done, imo.

      This entire story disgusts me so much! How CPS can allow that child hoarder to neglect those children emotionally and physically is beyond me; how do they sleep at night?

  25. sdfhas says:

    well, she is terrible, but the house interior pictures really didn’t look that shocking to me – with the exception of the spray paint and the children going potty outside. As for kids running around without pants…I think everyone who has a toddler lets them do that sometimes. I agree that she is awful but even a normal house with small children can get really messy at times. So the pictures weren’t the greatest evidence of parental misconduct.

  26. LeeLoo says:

    This woman is very sick and needs to be locked up in a psychiatric hospital. I seriously believe she is a child hoarder.

    It’s really sad when our society allows for bare minimum parenting.

  27. Maria says:

    if someone is so broke, but paying for haircuts that aren’t necessary when someone could do it themselves, then there is something definitely wrong with her. All the kids could have quick, trimmed simple haircuts if she had a friend come over and help keep the little ones steady while she could quickly trim. it all doesn’t add up and when things don’t add up, it’s simply because something is way off. She just doesn’t know how to handle money is quite unbalanced.

  28. iseepinkelefants@hotmail.com says:

    I’m confused, why are they giving her free stuff? And why would any company want her associated with their brand?

  29. Jayna says:

    How dare she say she can afford a Brazilian blowout. And she should cut her eight three-year-olds’ hair herself or find a cheap cuts Place. I never begrudged her receiving food stamps, etc. It is what it is and necessary. But it is obvious she spends frivolous money on herself which infuriates me.

  30. Janet says:

    I suspected this would be the outcome of the CPS investigation. The woman is a narcissistic famewhore and shouldn’t be a mother of one child, let alone fourteen. But as long as the children are in no immediate danger of neglect or abuse (keyword: immediate), CPS is not going to remove them from the home.

  31. Janice says:

    This woman is nuts. Look at her eyes. Take those children away from her. She’s living in a bubble.

  32. Lauren says:

    Mmmm. Well, it is surprising that all 14 children are still Alive. How many human beings can care for 14 children? I grew up in an affluent neighbourhood (we were the least affluent!), and a lot of my friends had full time housekeepers who cleaned house, prepared all meals, childcare, did laundry. The homes were still messy when i played over there! And none of these families had more than four children. The sad reality is..there are much worse parents than NS..i am Canadian (Ontario), and the welfare state is an epidemic here. Men & woman who are addicts, use welfare $ for drugs & booze, instead of feeding their children. These children are helpless, NS is mentally ill. I predict that most of these children will be living in poverty–supported by the government due to mental illness and or disabilities themselves as young adults-adults. Very sad indeed. Have to go to Work now. Love and protect your children at all costs.

    • the original bellaluna says:

      Awhile back, they changed the system (here in Cali, at least) to EBT cards (similar to ATM/debit cards) so the Food Stamp portion of benefits can ONLY be used for FOOD. If there are additional “cash benefits” those may be used for diapers and the like; but no booze, cigarettes, and that type of thing.

  33. Petee says:

    Sorry don’t feel sorry for her or her children.I feel sorry for us that has to pay tax’s for this Ang,Jolie wannabe.Did any one know she has a porn line?I heard it on Howard Stern and this woman is not all there.

  34. really? says:

    how about free food for the kid’s, clothing, school supplies? Having your hair chemically straightened is not a priority !

  35. MST says:

    I’m a child welfare worker and the CPS investigator was right. We look to see if a child is in imminent risk of danger — it it’s 10 degrees outside and there is no heat, that sort of situation. I’ve also seen houses where there were so many roaches they were swinging from each other, like in some sickening bizarro circus act. I’m so glad I don’t work in the field any more!

  36. TaylorB says:

    They do Not take children away in the UK because the parents are Christian, that is false. I am assuming you are basing this on the hoopla surrounding the case where a couple was not approved to foster kids because of their homophobic views. But a bunch of people got their undies in a wad and said it was because of their religion, it wasn’t, it was because they were simply bigots and those can exist in any faith, and I personally think it is best not to intentionally place impressionable children with bigots.

  37. A says:

    So I guess this PR stunt worked out then.

  38. poppy says:

    i’m going to judge her. she is the worst. i don’t need to wait until one of her brood dies to put her on my lists of worst parent and people the world can do and should be without. she’s right up there with charles manson and worse. if and when her kids grow up to be remotely functioning i will happily take her off the lists. she will always remain on the list of horrible selfish people. those poor children.

  39. hopperlea says:

    I used to be the one to stand up for Suleman everytime, but she has proven that she is a nut case and should have her children taken away. Her kids even look at her like she is crazy. She either needs to get her act together quick or start to find homes for her children while she fixes herself.

  40. nikzilla37 says:

    This bitch has one hell of a scam going on and the state of California is falling for it. Also, shame on those Dr. Drew and the Brazilian Blowout people for promoting their product on the backs of those poor kids.

  41. jen says:

    Entitlement mentality has ruined this country.

  42. ladybert62 says:

    Concerning the updated information you provided: $5,000 a month is A LOT Of damn tax money!

    She lies whenever her lips are moving – I also believe as do many of the above posters that she has serious mental problems.

    She has been saying for years – I will be off welfare next month, I am moving to a new and better house next month, everything will be better next month, I will have a job next month – blah blah blah.

    They need to take those kids away and put her in an asylum.

    • the original bellaluna says:

      Sure wish I could be paid $5K/month, have free maid-service, and get free hair dos without having to work for it.

      I will be boycotting BB for their idiotic attempt at goodwill, and I’ve already boycotted anything having to do with that “doctor.”

  43. tmbg says:

    She’s nuts. I think she’s on speed or something. It is impossible for this woman to speak slowly and clearly. Her voice is so annoying it’s ingrained in my head.

    Life with that woman and her kids is like a scene out of Lord of the Flies.

  44. hillbillygirl45 says:

    She is a straight-up whack-job. And, I think her whole reason for having all these kids was to get “free money”, free stuff, free help from time to time, and, most important, ATTENTION!! She’s a waste of space, IMO.

  45. irishserra says:

    She’s a total nutcase. However, she didn’t say “It’s almost over… I hope,” her last statement was actually “… “On help.” Not that it makes that much of a difference, but I thought it needed corrected.

  46. Dibba says:

    Wasn’t she getting plastic surgery to look like Angelina Jolie?

  47. Amanda G says:

    I see that everyone is disgusted by her, but I don’t see anyone offering solutions. What is the solution? Take them from their mother? It seems like a good idea to us, but it would be tragic for the kids. Or how about split them up in foster care? Also tragic.. I just don’t even know what they should do with this woman. Where is Britney’s dad? Can’t he watch over her too lol

    • tmbg says:

      I’m going to go ahead and say jettison them into outer space, along with the rest of humanity like her.

      Seriously, I don’t think there is any good solution. Someone said there’s a shortage of foster parents in California and anyway, foster care would probably damage those kids further. We really need to start colonizing another planet for the sane people to live on.

    • Laurie M. says:

      I think the solution is to have someone work VERY closely with the family to ensure their needs are being met. Let’s face it, Nadya is mentally unstable and probably needs closer monitoring (like Britney). Someone needs to step in and guide that family on prioritizing money and spending, as well as managing the children. Nadya is just not all there to do it herself. If she is not going to work and be a full time mom, she needs to stop seeking fame and get the family healthy.

    • wunder says:

      It would be much more tragic for the kids to stay with her long term.

      The children’s intellectual/emotional development will most likely be delayed, and they will probably all have to be treated for PTS syndrome later if they are left longer with the Octo-Twit.

      If she really cares about the kids, she should let other people adopt them and give them a real chance in life.

      As it is, Octo-Twit seems more like a sick, needy ‘Baby Hoarder’ than actual mother.

      She needs to allow her kids to be cared for by others so they can be treated as Human Beings instead of like Octo-Objects.

    • HappyJoyJoy says:

      Solution: Ignore her, turn a blind eye to her, take the cameras away as well as the freebies. Solution 2: Foster homes. I know it sounds terrible but you know this crazy beezy doesn’t even know all of their names. She probably refers to them as 1, 2, 8, 12 and such.
      Solution 3: Who Am I kidding. This woman has no hope. She’s just going to turn them into system looting leeches just like herself.

  48. Eileen says:

    I seriously think this b!tch thinks she’s Angelina Jolie.

  49. TaylorB says:

    Well on the upside it from the looks of her she has stopped spending money on makeup, Botox and brow waxing. Hopefully she is spending some of that on her kids.

  50. Naye in VA says:

    There was an old woman who lived in a shoe…

  51. Jennifer12 says:

    So basically, Octo’s lying, scamming and refusal to properly care for her kids has bought her free maid service, free child care and free blowouts. Who is the fool here? Will anyone yank her endless supply of money? If you offered her a job or free college education, do you think she’d take it? Why weren’t any of these kids (particularly the 8 year olds) in school or preschool or day care? Why were 8 year olds walking around naked with potties to use for toilets? Why is Octoevil the smart one in this??

  52. dorothy says:

    This woman has made one stupid decision after another. If your on welfare, you can’t afford a Brazilian blow dry. Plain and simple. She’s just a whole lot of dumb rolled up in one mentally ill person.

    • Jennifer12 says:

      What’s scary is, she’s NOT dumb. She’s getting everything for free, the attention she longs for and people offering to pay for child care, give her money, give her free items, free haircuts and she’s barely raising her kids while taxpayers support her way of life. Take her money, take her support, hold her accountable and maybe she will get it together or at least someone will watch over her for her kids’ sake. Seriously, how does this moron not have a conservatorship? Here’s the message: have a tons of kids you can’t afford and don’t want to bother raising, don’t bother with a job and education and we will support your lazy ass and give you fancy haircuts to boot.

  53. liberatedbutterfly says:

    I hope it all works out

  54. CreamSoda says:

    What is she talking about that she makes money and can afford to have her hair done, etc.? If the house is in foreclosure because she’s not paying the rent, then clearly she can’t afford these extras.

    If the rest of us chose not to pay our rent or mortgage, we could all afford a lot of extras too. She’s an idiot.

  55. JennaLove says:

    This woman deserves to have her children taken away, all benefits stripped, and she should rot in a prison for child endangerment, and overall fraud. It’s hard enough making it today with one child with how poor our economy has become, this woman took advantage of the whole system. In one of my old neighborhoods there was a mom just like her. She popped out about seven or eight children so she could receive benefits and not have to work.
    This woman is disgusting and doesn’t need to be allowed children. I can’t stand it when my one year old daughter runs around with just a diaper sometimes because I feel like she might be cold. This b!tch makes her kids sleep on the ground.

    In a normal society, if a normal person did this to their children, they would have been taken out of her custody. But because she’s a ‘celebrity’ she’s handed special treatment. So, if one of her kids go missing or all of them while she’s doing something else will she be let off of a prison sentence like other mentally unstable mothers in the press?

    • kimlee says:

      Social Services is not treating her like a celebrity by letting her keep the kids. Quite the opposite, they are looking at the situation like she is any normal parent under investigation. The children aren’t in danger and there is no egregious neglect or evidence of abuse so they stay in her custody. Standard procedure.

      It’s the media and public that are holding her to higher standards (and really it’s her fault for setting herself up for that).

  56. Sevenlumina says:

    Who thought that someone could make Kate Gosselin’s parenting look good!

  57. Jess says:

    She is cray-cray to the max…poor kids! Also, why does one of her kids not look anything at all like the rest? Did Dr. Kamrava steal someone else’s embryo to complete the full dozen that were implanted?

  58. kira says:

    Wait…if she’s the only one watching the kids, then, they are wild, right? How can that not be neglect? I can understand that CPS is overwhelmed and they have seen far worse cases, but this looks like an accident waiting to happen. So, let’s just wait for the inevitable tragedy to occur?

    Great…start the clock.

  59. The Truth Fairy says:

    I’m OK with her going on welfare to feed her kids – children have the right to eat no matter how stupid their mother is. BUT if she’s going to spend that money on haircuts and other bullsh*t while her kids get neglected, it’s a problem.

  60. Maguita says:

    On a lighter note, I don’t know who does her eyebrows, whether she pays for it or gets it for free, it is an absolute Fail!

    They make her look too manly.

  61. Rebecca says:

    Here is a suggestion force nadia to reavele who the father of her children are or cut off her welfare there is a man out there who should also be supporting these children force her too accept daycare a nanny or her parents too get these kids a semi normal life then she can get a job and recive less money from the goverment and pay for her own ugly hair cuts i still think the doner might be the doctor seems impossible that its a secret.

  62. tru tru says:

    This was always have plan B, if she did not become a “reality star”

    her home is horrid, the graffiti, no words.

  63. bored says:

    You know, with that many kids 4 – 5K is no fortune. She’s obviously struggling and I don’t blame her for taking nay free services or support. Whatever led up to this, and whatever type of person she is, there are 8 3 year olds and 6 other children under that roof. They deserve to be fed and clean and to feel safe and loved. These are things this woman has to provide and apparently the state feels she is managing, however marginally. I can’t even imagine how stressful it must be taking care of all those kids. Her life is so difficult and poorly planned I find it hard to begrudge her a dumb hairdo (even a 500$ one).

    • TaylorB says:

      Nope, I am sorry but $520 bucks for haircuts when you can’t even pay for food and get your toilet fixed is bull: I especially loved that she claimed it was for haircuts for the kids as well… so $520/15 cuts comes out to $30+ bucks a cut. Try Great Clips, you money grubbing scam artist. Or do what my mom did when we were little slap a bowl on our heads and cut around the edges.

      • tmbg says:

        Or just buzz the boys’ hair off (this is what my brother and sister-in-law did for awhile with their sons) with a hair clipper you can get at Sally Beauty, and for the girls, just trim the bangs. Although detangling long wet hair is a real pain, so maybe the girls would need to go to Fantastic Sam’s or somewhere.

      • wunder says:

        Like Octo-Liar would really tell the truth about hair cuts for the kids? LOL

        I think EVERYTHING was spent on HER and NOT on them because it looks like she doesn’t give those kids anything which isn’t FREE. Which points to her NOT paying for kids hair cuts.

        (Just think about this one, because we all know it’s not Advanced Calculus: That B!tch ain’t gonna waste ONE THIN DIME on her kids! Oh hell no. She’s completely SELFISH and treats those kids downright raggedy. It’s a DISGRACE!)

      • AnnieB says:

        This useless, offensive WASTE of oxygen can vaporize into nothing for what she is worth in the universe. Disgusting. Cut your OWN damn kid’s hair, you useless, jobless trash. Shave your own damn head, you an offensively ugly woman with 14 kids you used fertility treatments to spawn ALL. Since you CHOSE to spawn then raise them, YOU pay for them. My gawd.

        My parents raised me in the 80s when they were paying a 15+% mortgage rate for their house that they sacrificed severely (food, clothing, “luxuries”) to pay a 20% down payment to even GET a mortgage. Thank goodness for no brand foods, potatoes, cheap meat (yeah, I include bologna here) and frozen vegetables we ate as “healthy” as was possible. MANY side jobs for my parents, mom and dad working day and night shifts to bring money in to SURVIVE. NO ONE did porn, cause they had “no other choice”. Oooops, their choice was WORKING their asses off. Fuck YOU Nadya you useless waste. Fuck YOU.

    • ZenB!tch says:

      That’s no fortune as a single woman in LA, that is what I made before I was laid off. The rent eats 1/2 of it BUT no one should be rewarding this woman in any way for what she did.

      Thanks to the recession I am living on 2/3 of my salary now and I am not getting blow outs, my one luxury is my $35/month gym membership – and there is only one of me.

      The fact that she spends more than 10% of her income on hair is galling. I don’t want my tax dollars (unemployment is taxed) going on her hair when they could go to mine.

      Then there is the bad plastic surgery. I wonder if they can get her on Welfare Fraud? If she can spend $550 on hair, she can get that much less in welfare payments.

  64. Marie Antoinette Jr. says:

    There is no happy solution to this mess. The best the state can do is strive to make sure the children are at least physically safe; and that may mean removing some or all of them from her care. Meanwhile, maybe it’s time for the sperm donor/clinic and the negligent fertility doc to pony up for this mess they created. The state of CA should go after them both.
    Maybe it’s time to send a message to people who think they can scam the taxpayers and skate through life by becoming welfare parents. Make an example of Octo and maybe some good will have come of this.

  65. Kimlee says:

    And she’s now getting MORE freebies!!! Just got this from TMZ

    Brazilian Blowout — the company behind the hair procedure Octomom dropped hundreds of dollars on while on welfare — is MORTIFIED by Octo’s reckless spending … and now, it’s hatched a plan to make things right with taxpayers.

    BB CEO Mike Brady tells TMZ, “We want to make sure that California taxpayers’ money is not going to anything other than taking care of [Nadya Suleman's] children. We don’t want to see those kids miss out on anything at the cost of a Brazilian Blowout.”

    So, a rep for the company tells us, BB is offering to reimburse Octomom the entire cost of her recent Brazilian Blowouts — plus other hair treatments — totaling $520.

    But that’s not it — BB also wants to give Octomom free blowouts in the future at the company’s salon in West Hollywood … so she’s not squandering her limited cash supply on luxury goods. BB will even cover the cost of a sitter while the mother of 14 is getting primped.

    To top it all off, BB is offering to pay to fix Octo’s toilet — which might finally allow her kids to poop inside. One can only dream.

    • ZenB!tch says:

      She *drives* from La Habra to West Hollywood on $4 gas$$$$????????????

      That should be illegal right there. She is on WELFARE. La Habra is so far from LA that I don’t even know exactly where it is. I think there is a sign on the 5 for the La Habra exit near Disneyland so at least 30 miles maybe more – 2 ways on $4 gas. Can’t she go to some cheesy salon in La Habra? Geesh!

      I saw a coupon in the ULTA book for Keratin treatments at $159. There are ULTAs in OC. Ironically, the one I go to is in West Hollywood (haven’t tried the treatment, right now it’s still to $$ for me).

  66. Shannon says:

    I’m confused that people think that the kids should be kept together if they are removed from her care. I think that would be horrible. This many toddlers PLUS the 6 kids she already had is just too much for a single parent, and I would argue too much for the vast majority of two parent households. Not just financially – for the kids’ wellbeing. 13 siblings means you don’t get enough attention. I know this. My grandma was the second youngest of 14. She lived a sad, neglected life and the effects of loneliness and lack of attention followed her into old age until she died. She had serious substance abuse issues and suffered from mental breakdowns. I think these kids are undergoing great damage to their sense of worth as human beings. And I would at the very least want to separate the octuplets from the older kids. They have very different sets of needs right now, not to mention it’s quite likely that the older kids harbor a lot of resentment towards their younger siblings. The kids with special needs really need a lot of individual attention too, and I can’t see them getting enough if they end up in a foster care setting with 5 of their siblings. Keeping siblings together is USUALLY the right thing to do, but I’m not sure it is ALWAYS the right thing. In this case, I’m convinced that the kids would do much better being split up and sent to live with families in groups of two or three, and seeing each other on holidays or something. They would also find placements in foster care much more quickly this way.

    And Octomom should be held responsible for child support.

    • wunder says:

      Not only that BUT ALSO the seemingly insane quack ‘doctor’ who Ok-ed Octo-Moron’s lunatic ‘Baby Hoarding’.

      Dr.Quack should pay for the chirruns upkeep-not Cali tax payers who were totally uninformed and uninvolved with the Octo-Twit-Quack cracktastic decision making process.

      How fast can Cali tax payers say ‘Medical Malpractice’????

    • EscapedConvent says:

      Very thoughtful comment, Shannon, & I think you may be right. It’s almost impossible that anyone could take in all of the children together. I’m afraid these poor innocent children are going to end up in institutions or the foster care system permanently. Nadya still doesn’t see the consequences of what she has done. These are eight little human beings who have no chance at a decent life with parents who would love & cherish them. It’s a true tragedy, for all fourteen of those unfortunate children.

  67. jesstar says:

    I hope this good for nothing grifter goes to jail for all of her fraud! If you can afford hundreds of dollars on your hair, you can afford to feed your family!
    I hope they do get kicked out on the street so those kids have a chance to be raised by someone with ethics. I wouldnt feel bad at all if she took a long walk off a short pier!

  68. Laurie M. says:

    She cannot go back to the house she was at before this one, because THAT one was foreclosed on as well. This family has had more foreclosures, bankruptcies, and name changes than anyone I know!
    Also, how many other welfare moms have a corporation (which likely helps her hide assets and qualify for more welfare!). She has Harmony Enterprises – why is no one investigating this story. I’m pretty sure there is massive fraud going on. Natalie alone has used 10-15 different versions of her OWN name!

  69. ZenB!tch says:

    What can I do to sign up for free hair straightening?

  70. original kate says:

    she is straight-up cray-cray. the only chance those kids have at a normal life is being taken away from her.

  71. SolitaryAngel says:

    I have to say that I saw the 2 photos of those faces she was making when the interviewer called her out on her BS–and I got chills. I couldn’t bring myself to look at the video.

    I had a disastrous but short 2nd marriage; we were friends for a long time before we got together and I never saw the unbalanced behavior until after. Mine & my son’s lives became a nightmare and even now, 11 years later since the last time we saw him, I have bad dreams, severe panic attacks and PTSD. My son & I ended up having to run for our lives, and we hid from him in different battered women’s shelters for 2 1/2 years (he “somehow” kept finding us–we discovered much later that he had lied & talked 2 police officers into helping track us)until the good police finally caught his crazy ass and put him away.

    My point is, in those 2 photos, she is showing her TRUE nature and it scares me–because now I can recognize exactly what those expressions indicate from pure bitter experience. This is a woman who could easily snap, and make Andrea Yates look like Mother of the freaking year. I’m terribly afraid for those children.

  72. Sonia says:

    I thought plastic surgery was supposed to make you look better?

  73. Jennifer says:

    So…she is claiming that a real hairdresser gave her kids those ridiculous bowl cuts? I’m calling bullsh** on that one.

  74. dee dee says:

    This is rediculous!!!! Leave this woman alone for christ’s sake! WHY is it OK for the DUGGARS to have 20 children and receive help and not her??? She is doing this BY HERSELF and doing the Best she can. I am sure no on else can handle that many kids and do it likE her. she is doing the best she can with everyone hating on her. lET HER BE!!!! jUST LEAVe HER ALONE PEOPLE. There are WAY more people out there taking advantage of the system.

    • jesstar says:

      Because the Duggars provide for their family! They don’t sit around while the rest of us buy their food and they get plastic surgery & $500 hair services! If she wants people out of her business she shouldn’t take OUR money!!!

      While the rest of us have the number of children we can afford, even if it means having NO children, this asshole takes it upon herself to have more children than she can care for and cannot provide for and expects everyone else to pay for them all.
      I don’t agree with the Duggars lifestyle, but they are not a drain on the system and are actually trying to contribute to society instead of burdening it.

  75. EscapedConvent says:

    Sorry to say this–but the only way those poor children are going to get out of Nadya’s claws are if she has a complete breakdown, or if the family is homeless. That would force the authorities to find homes for them, because who is going to rent to her now? Her parents can’t help her much–she has bankrupted them.

    This woman is poisonous & she is hurting those children every day they stay with her. I wonder what will happen to this family after the bank auctions off the house. She doesn’t even seem to realize that she has lived for free for well over a year, in this house that she has destroyed & that someone else owns.

    But the house isn’t even the point–the kids are. Someone has to step in & place these children in good homes. Nadya should have NO children. Then she will be free to babble all she likes, about her hair & her lips & her physical fitness training, & the Starbucks cup that never leaves her hand! She can continue to spend all of her energy & attention on herself, & she won’t be destroying the lives of those poor fourteen children.

  76. BamaGuy1024 says:

    What a trashy disgusting human being she is. I worry about every one of her children, how miserable to grow up with a mother like that.

  77. Madpoe says:

    Take these kids away out of danger and put them in loving homes. Take Octo stoopid, burn her tubes and fine her a$$. Eating cake is optionally.

  78. HappyJoyJoy says:

    Someone make this chimpanzee looking bitch disappear from life. Seriously. Her and her hellions. Find them fitting homes so they have a chance at life. She’s going to turn them into system abusers too.

  79. Candyland says:

    How come if she’s getting $4-5,000 a month she can’t pay her rent?

  80. gt says:

    this woman makes me sick and I feel soooo sorry for her kids.

  81. pauly g says:

    exactly, shes cashing inn on her kids, looking like a 2 dolla barbie doll, cosmetic surgery, beauty supples, sbes ugly to begin with and now with her kids, companies are lining up to give her free cosmetic and beauty for the publisity, but in reality kids toy companies and childcare companies should be the ones lining up to help, but now that she reuined her already bad name no child related company wants to step inn cause they feel like it would be bad publisity on there part,

    and yea I know spell check, i just typed this really fast in rage with this cheap con

  82. Green Is Good says:

    Yikes. Even still shots of this mental patient’s face are frightening.

    Somebody hit her with tranquilizer gun and spirit the kids off to a den of Wolves. Google that. Wolves actually raise their offspring.

  83. robert bostick says:

    i think nadya is doing the best she can
    shes a great mother and very beautiful
    inside and out people need to give her more creidit and care more

  84. KellyinSeattle says:

    She is a patholical psychopath – it’s all about “her”. She’s loving the ride…Dr. Drew hasn’t had me on to get free maid service. What’s up with that? What bugs me the most is that she was unmarried, unemployed, at the time of conception. Many people hold off on having children that they would LOVE to have, because they can’t afford raising a child. There’s a difference between raising a child and having children.