Jennifer Garner & Chelsea Handler went to the same restaurant that Ben took Lindsay

Single Jennifer Garner has a Girls Night Out with Chelsea Handler

This is getting ridiculous. Ben Affleck spectacularly debuted his “new” girlfriend, SNL producer Lindsay Shookus, when they went out for dinner in LA last Thursday night, at a restaurant called Giorgio Baldi (only one paparazzi agency had those photos, they’re the ones with Lindsay in the fug floral top). On Monday they went out for coffee and then that night they got pizza at a different Italian restaurant, where more photographers showed up to document their goofy-looking mutual affection and Ben’s stained gray t-shirt. My theory yesterday was that Lindsay tipped off the paps because there were so many articles afterwards about what a cool chick she was, along with quotes to People about how she’s not reckless and there was no affair. Some of you think that Ben forced Jen’s hand, which is also a solid theory, especially since Giorgia Baldi is a paparazzi hotspot. Whether Ben “got outed” or “outed” himself, he’s rolling with it, and Jen is too. She’s had a lot of sourced quotes with Southern shade about how Ben can’t be alone, along with her side of the story confronting Lindsay about the affair. ET Online even has newer quotes from a source close to Jen which claim that the cheating was definitely the impetus for the divorce. Here are those quotes and they do sound straight from Jen:

According to our source, 45-year-old Garner also talked to Shookus’ ex-husband, Late Night With Seth Meyers supervising producer Kevin Miller, about the alleged relationship when he produced her segment during her appearance on the show in March 2016.

“Kevin had heard rumors that there was something going on between Lindsay and Ben but did not know many details about the affair,” the source says. “Jen and Kevin had a conversation about the affair and Jen told him everything…

“There were a bunch of things that broke up Ben and Jen’s marriage, but cheating was definitely the main factor that drove Jen to finally leave him,” the source claims. “It’s something that was very difficult for Jen to deal with.”

“Jen is trying to move on with her life. Jen is very strong,” the source says. “She is not embarrassed about this at all. Jen isn’t focused on dating at the moment — her number one priority is her children and making sure they are OK during this.”

[From ET Online]

OK we get it, Ben is a cheating dog. Many people will wonder what took Jen so long but I’m sure he woos the crap out of her and tells her a bunch of lies when he gets caught and she believes it. It’s been two years since the nanny though, and that was the lowest of the low. Maybe she should have cut bait back then (or really way before then) but perhaps she thinks she did that by kicking him out of the house, I don’t know. She never had strong boundaries with Ben.

Anyway in case you were still wondering how Jen feels about Ben stepping out with his new piece, last night she went to the same restaurant where Ben and Lindsay got outed as a couple, Giorgio Baldi. Jen’s date was Chelsea Handler. Chelsea needs a new famous woman to glom onto now that Jennifer Aniston has reportedly friend dumped her, so we can expect Chelsea to make sh-tty jokes about Lindsay Shookus next. I can’t find any photos of Chelsea and Jen G together prior to this, and I don’t think they were friends.

Do you think this was Chelsea’s idea and that Jen just went along with it? Maybe this was arranged by their people, since Jen is repped by CAA and Chelsea was with them as well up until a few months ago. This seems like something one of the Huvane brothers would cook up, like “how funny would it be if…” It’s not funny, it’s just petty, which seems to characterize everyone involved in this PR mess of a marriage. Your move, Lindsay and Ben.

Earlier in the day Garner stopped for ice cream with her daughter, Seraphina, and got a parking ticket. Who looks happy getting a parking ticket?
Jennifer Garner stops for ice cream and gets a parking ticket in Brentwood

Jennifer Garner does dinner at Giorgio Baldi after Ben Affleck took Lindsay Shookus there

Ben Affleck and Lindsay Shookus grab a piece of pizza

photos credit: Backgrid

 

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    • Cupcake says:

      I think she’s finally hit her breaking point. This whole thing has blown up and no anything could happen.

    • LadyT says:

      I agree. Ridiculously petty. She had been playing it well until this move—Just watching him crash and burn like the rest of us with that “bless his heart, I know he’s an idiot” smile glued on.

    • Nicole says:

      I’m not mad at it tho. She’s still winning and frankly I would think she was a robot if she didn’t slip every now and again.

      • minx says:

        What is she winning, though? It’s over. She has the minivan mom demographic locked up no matter what; the rest of the world doesn’t care. She’s starting to look like a bunny boiler. Here’s a thought–why doesn’t she get dressed up and go on a date with some hot guy–or is her identity so tied up with being the poor cheated on wife?

      • magnoliarose says:

        There is nothing to win in this. She is veering into obsessive territory. Not a good look.

      • Ramona says:

        I think people need to calm down and drop the bunny boiler hyperbole. It seems clear to me that she just wants this weeks tabloid editors to know not to paint her as sad and down. The girls night out was an excellent idea. The headline will be how she is bouncing back not how he destroyed her.

        As for the choice of restaurant, yeah it was a bit naughty but I think theres more to that. I read that thats a place he took Jen to often enough that there are photos and sightings going back years. Maybe she just wanted to reclaim that place emotionally. Make new good memories for it immediately so that its not forever “that place where my ex unveiled the mistress”. And theres probably a bit of teeheeehee with her girlfriends over it. Its allowed. It will be forgotten in a day, nobody is hurt by it and it probably gave her a nice giggle.

      • Jess says:

        Yeah, obsessive bunny boiler seems a bit dramatic, maybe she really is a mature adult who puts her kids first. A lot of people think she’s this sneaky vindictive ex wife who was willing to let him roll all over her just so she could be Mrs Affleck, I just don’t see it. To me she seems like a normal person who tried to make her marriage work until it was glaringly obvious he’s a cheating loser. I would do the same things in her position, protect my ex husbands horrible image to protect my children from the pain, and occasionally get a passive aggressive dig in with the press, lol. Everyone has their own opinion though! I’ve just always liked her, she’s funny and comes off genuine to me.

      • susiecue says:

        Wow Ramona, well put! I didn’t know that was one of “their places”, but if so that makes total sense!

    • Down and Out says:

      I’ve actually never liked her more. Man makes mistake after mistake & he’s just fine. Woman shows for one moment that she’s actually human & BURN THE WITCH.

      • minx says:

        Why give him the satisfaction? The best revenge would be to be photographed with some better looking, SOBER guy as an alternative to the messy BA/LS pics.

      • ElleC says:

        @DownandOut I agree – I don’t get why people are so ready to paint her as being some bunny boiling shrew without any compassion for how crazy-making it must be to have a family with a moody cheater with addiction issues. Is she perfect, no! Is this outing calculated, probably! So what? I think she’s asserting that she isn’t stuck at home dejected and rejected like a pair of worn out shoes… speaking of which… LOOK AT HER SHOES. She’s the queen of comfy clompers, so it speaks volumes that she’s out and about in a sexier heel. Good for her! I’d be smiling, too, if my ex was finally his mistress’ problem!

        @minx given that she is coming out from what was probably a toxic, codependent relationship I think it’s probably a good sign that she isn’t jumping into a new guy’s arms

      • minx says:

        ElleC–not a relationship, just some PR. A date. I’m sure she must knows some nice men who would go out with her–no one needs to know if they are just friends or not. Get dolled up and look fabulous. I said yesterday, she’s a mom not a nun. Have some fun! That would be better PR than hanging out with (ugh) Handler.

      • LearningtheSystem says:

        She can’t really do casual dating, though. Once anyone is seen with her, they will immediately be all over every tabloid, have everything in their lives brought up, stalked by paps, etc., etc. When she dates, we won’t know it, not until its serious and it’s worth the trouble and craziness that will ensue.

      • minx says:

        I don’t think that many people would care who Garner dates. The newsworthy angle was “cheating dog BA and steadfast wife JG.” If they are divorced that angle is gone. Garner on her own is not that big of a star to have unlimited post-divorce pap interest.

      • Lalu says:

        I don’t even care about this woman but everytime I read comments about her I just want to jump to her defense. It’s crazy!
        I feel like I would act the same way she has, in her situation. And I get why she doesn’t go out with someone else. She probably doesn’t want her kids to see her with someone else, even if it’s nothing serious. Look at their dad. That’s enough for the kids to process.
        I am not saying I think she’s some kind of aspirational figure… I just think she seems pretty human in how she’s handled things.
        And no, I am not the “mini van” whatever you guys call it. I have one kid and have been shacked up with his dad for 17 years. If he treated me like this, my entire world would be turned upside down. Not because I am some kind of a wimp, but because I consider him my best friend and family. It would take a lot of time to move on. I think some people are just programmed that way.

      • Deb says:

        Eh I think it will be a feeding frenzy of paps.

      • Nyawira says:

        @Minx

        Sorry but no. People will care about her next relationship IF she wants them to. All she has to do is feed the machine. Lots of women are now living vicariously through her and are rooting for her to “win” this one. Her next guys will be thoroughly scrutinised and ranked against Ben just as they did with Jennifer Aniston over ten years and countless boyfriends. Katie Holmes had and has similar interest but because she doesn’t feed the machine, it’s not as frenzied.

      • Green says:

        I don’t think criticism of JG’s recent antics has anything to do with her being a woman. Roles reversed and it’s still cringe-worthy. She’s done interviews shading him. She’s leaked in detail about how bad he is. Now she’s turning up at the same restaurant less than 24 hours after. She’s a hyper-clinger and not respecting herself. She’s always reacting to him rather than getting on with her life and being proactive about her. It’s always what he did to her. Don’t think defending this kind of passive behaviour is necessarily looking out for your fellow women. He’s a douche. Yeah, okay, now let’s move on.

      • Down and Out says:

        @Green – Just no. If the roles were reversed, the guy would be flooded with sympathy and lauded for his loyalty, not called a “clinger”. Criticize her behavior, fine, but the use of terms like “psycho” and “bunny boiler” fuel a particularly insidious stereotype of the obsessive woman. It’s gross.

      • Green says:

        Down and out, I totally disagree on the roles-reversed thing but agree bunny-boiler and psycho are extreme. However, she’s clearly a clinger and I’d have said the same about any guy who did the same thing as she did (tolerated wife’s “hard work marriage” comments, cheating scandals, etc). However, I never felt the same way about someone like Demi Moore who stood by Ashton Kutcher probably because she didn’t do a silly PR war for no point and major interviews shading her partner. Clinger and obsessive are correct terms for JG here and bunny-boiler is probably sexist, but I never said that personally.

      • ElleC says:

        @minx … I get where you’re coming from (who hasn’t fantasized about rising from the ashes of a break up looking fab with a new man?) but I also balk at the notion that a woman has to be seen with a man (even a PR date) to be perceived as “winning”… IMO it takes more guts and growth to be on your own.

        I also think being alone works better for her mainstream “mommy” rep AND undercuts all this “clinger” “bunny boiler” “not a saint” branding… which I don’t think she deserves for breaking a few hearts in her 20s and staying too long in a crappy marriage. Talk about clingers, people need to let go of the Foley/Vartan stuff… I was in braces when that went down and I’m willing to bet most of us aren’t the same people we were in the early 00s.

        All that said, JG is probably damned whatever she does so she may as well smile and dine and pap stroll as it pleases her!

    • OhDear says:

      Eh, let her have a petty moment or two.

  1. burnsie says:

    I don’t get Jen’s MO. She’s literally looking into the camera and smiling

    • Grandjen says:

      Yeah she comes off as crazy in this. Maybe Ben deserves more sympathy than I thought. I have no doubt he’s a total dawg, but maybe she’s got her own issues too. Clingy and needy and manipulative and controlling. Maybe he was deliberately trying to get caught, ANYTHING to get out of that marriage.

      The point is, this behavior of hers raises questions…

      • Lady D says:

        ANYTHING to get out of the marriage. Divorce never crossed his mind?

      • Cherise says:

        “The point is, this behavior of hers raises questions…”

        No it doesnt. She is a public figure trying to survive the tabloid curse of “jilted woman” thats all.

      • smcollins says:

        Exactly @lady d. This whole “Jen is so needy & clingy, and forced Ben to stay in an unhappy marriage”, like he couldn’t have filed for divorce himself if he was so miserable, narrative gets so exhausting. I’m not saying she’s a saint, or even faultless, but Ben has demonstrated time and again that he does what he wants without any regard for his wife’s feelings. Why would him being the one to take action with a divorce be such a stretch?

      • Luca76 says:

        Lady D they filed an few months back and announced a separation 2 years ago and she is acting like this.

      • Ramona says:

        @Luca76 I’m not so sure about that 2 year exes thing. I think Ben stuck around for a reason and that reason was trying to have his cake and eat it too. You ever known a man determined to ditch his wife for his long term mistress remodel a guest house to live next to his wife? You ever heard a man with a long term mistress who is determined to ditch his wife spend major holidays with said wife? How about accompany her on work trips? And no ALL that was not just for the kids, think about it.

        I believe Jen is responding this way because theres a much more recent betrayal. I think it was something about the rehab lie. I think rehab was her ultimatum to him and I dont think he really went or maybe he didnt complete and that stupid press statement mentioning her by name was his passive aggressive lie about completing it. Either way, I think she cut him off leaving him no choice but dive in fully with the mistress. But Ben and Jen have def had a “relationship” over the last two years.

      • Luca76 says:

        @Ramona your not sure about the two years? They announced a separation in a joint statement so I’m not sure exactly what your not sure about, they filed in April it’s now July …the reconciliations were rumored and denied several times. (My belief is they were floated by her team and denied by his) Now I’ll give you that it’s possible behind the scenes there may have been attempts to reconcile but the assumptions that all of the attempts were on his end and not on hers but I just can’t with the whole martyr thing she’s selling. The writing has been on the wall for years now.

      • Nyawira says:

        Then how do you explain the first paragraph Ramonas post? Ben hang around too close and gor far longer than was necessary for PR. If after the separation he had moved out and from then only been pictured with the kids it would be different. Even by Goop standards, he stayed too close with his hovering at the the farmers market and Church.

        The conflicting PR sources were borne of the fact that he was also trying to hang onto Lindsay. So Jennifer wanted Lindsay to know that Ben was trying to reconcile to chase her off. Meanwhile Bens sources generally let it be except for once in awhile when they drop a denial for Lindsays benefit if she happened to have seen the last report.

    • Sami says:

      Its not a Stepford Wife pose, it was taken while she was chatting with the papparazzi about the ticket. Theres video of it.

    • Carrie says:

      This is why I keep pointing out Garner is no saint. She was like this pursuing Ben. She put Vartan AND Foley through an emotional wringer of head games apparently. Garner IS a bunny boiler type or nearly so.

      That said I hope she pulls it together because those kids need one solid parent at least.

      • Erinn says:

        See, I’m not sure if I believe that. Why would Foley bother saying that there was no third party, and the breakup was nobodies fault – just a result of Hollywood. Vartan said they were best friends before AND after the relationship. I don’t think either of those guys would have owed it to her to make those kinds of statements if they had been really played.

      • Carrie says:

        @Erinn, I heard additional things but it would be rehashing all that and I just don’t have it in me. Everyone can believe their own impressions, it’s gossip, that’s what it’s for. All this aside, i would hope she is genuinely coping as well as the photos are portraying because again, the kids in this mess matter most.

    • Green says:

      ‘She is a public figure trying to survive the tabloid curse of “jilted woman” thats all.’

      So she turns up at the same restaurant a day later? I think she’s just losing it and not being objective about anything. If she wanted to avoid the jilted woman image, she wouldn’t leak the three-year-affair thing (reinforces what he DID TO her). She wouldn’t turn up at the same restaurant and make herself look like a stalker.

  2. Radley says:

    These people really need to stop “acting” out their lives for the public. Let the younger celebs have their PR friends, plant stories and call the paps to photograph them strutting in designer gear they got paid to wear. This seems so undignified for this age bracket. Get it together and stop playing to the bored mid-western housewife set.

  3. Tina says:

    She must be a bit unhinged over all this. Just step away. Take the high road.

    • elle says:

      And there was an ET article only two days ago entitled “How Jennifer Garner is Staying Away From the Drama as Ben Affleck New Romance Goes Public.”

      Seriously?

      Let’s hope both their PR people are reading this now and telling them to get their sh*t together, if not for themselves then at least for the sake of their kids.

  4. Jenfan says:

    I think she was there with a group not just Chelsea – there are pics of others. Also there is an x17 video of the ice cream / parking ticket thing and she is actually talking to a female pap who tells her about the ticket and tells her she tried to save her from it but could not. Also I think the ice cream store is near the kids therapist – this is a “run” we have seen before and with other Affleck kids. Ben definitely “outed” himself at that restaurant- it’s a pap hotspot and apparently a place Ben and Jen used to frequent together.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      It is a VERY popular restaurant with celebs, it’s really sincerely loved. Rihanna has been photographed leaving there like 30 times. The Brentwood/Santa Monica/Pacific Palisades area isn’t that huge, and I think this could very definitely be a coincidence and not a Ben-related strategy.

      • Luca76 says:

        But she couldn’t just order take out or go there in a week or two when things have calmed down?

      • Erinn says:

        I mean she could have, Luca. But maybe getting out made her feel better. Sometimes when you’re feeling down, forcing yourself out the door and out to dinner helps. And if it’s a place she used to go to often, maybe it’s a comfortable place for her to go.

        I always think it’s so weird when people break up and have to split up the places they frequent and the friends they have.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        She went with a group of friends. Maybe this has been planned for a while.

      • Luca76 says:

        I don’t think people have to split places but I do think that going somewhere right after leaking info and while the story is red hot is pretty purposely fanning the flames and I don’t have any respect for that. Especially when there are kids involved.

      • paranormalgirl says:

        Why should she have to put her life on hold?

      • mar_time says:

        Exactly!! Why should she have to put her life on hold when he’s the one that screwed her over?!?! These comments against Jen are nuts…and to the comment above saying she should be caught on a date with a cute guy, she went to dinner at a restaurant and everyone’s blaming her for being a crazy bunny boiler if she went on a date right after Ben publically came out with a new girlfriend, can you imagine the comments?? She’s taking it one day at a time trying to not let herself be labeled the “sad Jen” that Anniston got for years

      • magnoliarose says:

        I don’t think anyone is saying she should put her life on hold. But by reacting to Ben and talking about it to the press she is the one putting her life on hold.
        She isn’t a martyr or totally blameless. But there is a point in life when you have to own your choices. If you stay with a cheater and choose to overlook it then how is it still the cheater’s fault that you stayed?

  5. QueenB says:

    Holy Batman. Affleck looks like a Halloween costume.

  6. Mia4s says:

    I really wish they didn’t have kids because then I could be screaming with laughter over how petty and ridiculous these “adults” are. As is, I can just shake my head and sigh.

    I don’t think we are even at the halfway mark of how UGLY this is going to get.

  7. D says:

    Maybe you can look happy even when getting a parking ticket if you’re really rich and money is not an issue?

  8. squirrelgirl says:

    At first I read this they she was there at the SAME TIME Lindsay and Ben were there. Even so, this is SOOOO ridiculous. Chelsea is like a rebound for women in hollywood who have been “wronged”.

  9. Sami says:

    Hahahaa. Chelsea is the patron saint of scorned women and Jens. I’m kinda loving her for it, sue me.

    Anyway, I’m not mad at this restaurant date. It was very clear this past few days that Shookus and Ben have no chill. So Jen can either sit in the shadows and allow the gossip vaccuum to build a “sad Jen” narrative or she can have a girls night out at the same restaurant as a public middle finger to Ben and Shookus. I’m sure theres an inbetween option there somewhere but lets not muddy the waters.

  10. cindy says:

    Is she losing it? That maniacal smile looks aggressive and weird, not to mention following Ben to a restaurant. I know Ben is horrible, I don’t mean to start the who is worse argument (he’s worse), I’m just talking about her. What the hell is she doing? I’m starting to wonder if she is addicted to calling the paps, because this is bizarre.

  11. Maria F. says:

    for somebody who complains about the constant intrusion by the papparazzis, she looks recently awfully happy to see them

  12. anna says:

    must be the best lasagna in the whole of los angeles.

  13. Kate says:

    The famewhoring of all the people involved in this mess is gross, and daily reminder that Chelsea once called a black little girl a monkey. That’s the kind of people America’s favorite mom wants to be associated with. Again, gross.

  14. Mary says:

    This is some psycho ex wife moves!! They have been over for two years married in name only and she is still pulling this stuff!! She is so pathetic about Ben. He cheated on her and left her for the mistress and is now visiting the same resturants a day later than ben and lindsay visited? Jen Garner is straight stalker!!! I smell messiness coming since Jen is still hung up!

    Wheres my popcorn!!

  15. Div says:

    I just think it’s insane she went to the woman’s ex-husband and said “oh hey, your ex-wife is having an affair with my husband and it may have started up when she was still married to you.” I feel empathetic for Jen but it sounds downright nutty to confront the mistress’s ex-husband instead of being furious with her own husband and Shookus. This is all so petty and messy and you can tell both sides are leaking to People aka the celebrity friendly outlet. IF there weren’t kids, I’d be amused but since they have kids I find this all rather sad and I think all three need to shut it.

    • Mannori says:

      and when did we stablished that Garner *confronted* Miller? as far as it seems she may very well was just trying to figuring it out, and even if the mistress was already divorced, is still a natural desire to know what was going on, so maybe she needed to talk to the ex, maybe he even wasn’t fully aware of the whole thing and she needed to share what she knew, she maybe thought of doing a good thing, by open his eyes: if she had pictures or texts and show those the Shookus’ ex, I think she did good. I’m far of being a Garner fan, but her behaviour was the natural reaction any of us would have had to an ongoing affair.

    • magnoliarose says:

      I found that alarming. Why is he being dragged into this at all. This doesn’t make her look like a woman saving her marriage but someone being vindictive. BEN IS THE PROBLEM! Not Lindsay. It isn’t even like she is the first woman he has catted around with. 345 maybe but not first.

      • ORIGINAL T.C. says:

        Yeah confronting the ex-husband is pretty nutty. He has moved on and is a total stranger to her. It’s like she needed someone else to feel as hurt as she feels. That’s cruel.

        I still remember her playing with the paps during the Jolie and Pitt separation, joking that she’s having an affair with Brad Pitt! Yeah both Gardner and Affleck are pap whores and attention queens.

      • LearningtheSystem says:

        Maybe he came to her and asked if she knew anything for certain. One article said he had heard rumors, but didn’t know for sure. Maybe he thought she would know something about that and could confirm or deny it’s truth. Since she and Ben had already split, he felt safe to ask her directly at that time.

    • Luca76 says:

      You know I while I think it was crossing the line to go to the husband and desperate I can give her acting all desperate and crazed in the high drama of the fresh heartbreak but she’s had years to have a reality check and the woman just isn’t getting it. Ben is a dog but why are you still chasing after him girl??? It’s over!

    • Sarina says:

      Why do you think she can’t be angry with her husband AND confront the other woman, too? Why do you think it is *only* one or the other?

  16. detritus says:

    Its amazing to me in these stories, and others like it, the man is an aknowledged cheating and gaslighting dog, but we are still b*tching about how the woman handled it.

    As if how she handled/handles infidelity and a marraige breakdown actually impacts whether or not she ‘deserved’ it. There all this thought going in to why she’s being sketchy, behaving suspiciously etc. People all react different to stress and upset, it doesn’t invalidate their experience, and it doesn’t make them complicit.

    • Div says:

      I don’t think anyone on here critiquing the way she handled this situation believes she deserved to be cheated on. People on DListed might feel that way but not on CB. I do agree that people aren’t exactly showing a lot of empathy tho.

      Ben is a dirty dog and a serial cheat and no one deserves to be treated that way. I still think the pain she feels doesn’t exactly validate running to the press and leaking like a sinking ship or going to the woman’s ex husband (not current husband) considering there are kids involved. Ben doesn’t have any excuse for leaking stories like crazy either and I do think both are leaking since People is very celeb friendly. The three of them are making a big tabloid mess even worse with this drama and what might have been a scandal that was around for a month will now be milked to death.

    • Lacia Can says:

      Too right. I once saw a quote of JG’s saying something like Ben can be like the sun when he wants to be. Manipulative as heck. People can’t always see it until they’re away from it for a while.

      • detritus says:

        Plus, when you get out of a situation like that, you are MAD.
        You’ve just been played a fool, youve just been made look weak because you were vulnerable with someone you loved, and you’ve been left.

        It constantly amazes me how people want to justify emotionally abusive behaviour.

    • Mary says:

      I think to most people they are shocked at the lack of Jen Garners self respect and dignity at this point. He is a dog there is zero arguement there but he has clearly severed ties and moved on this year.

      Yet we find Jen stalking the resturants her ex goes to. Whats next, is she going to drive by his house? Her behavior is pathetic in its own way. Does she really want to be known as the woman who never got over loser Ben Affleck?!

      • detritus says:

        Mary, define stalking.
        Was she outside with binoculars waiting for him to come?
        Why isn’t he stalking her because he was at the same restaurant?

        Maybe she’s acting on emotion and not fully considering the optics. Maybe she feels showing up at the same place is putting on a brave face. You have zero idea on her motivation, and them being in the same place shouldn’t automatically become – she’s stalking him!
        Gossip mags are going to pose things in the terms of interest and easy digestion. Crazy ex girlfriend stalks man is a very common theme.

    • tracking says:

      I agree, detritus. I have so much compassion for the spouses of gaslighting cheaters, and don’t judge how they handle that kind of pain. That much worse when having to deal with the public scrutiny. She seems determined to convey that she is fine, positive, and putting her kids first. I can imagine the outing to the same restaurant being a Handler idea, but I really don’t know or care. Go, Jen.

      *And, stalking, really? Pretty sure I read that she has long frequented this restaurant. Should she slink away, never to return?

      • Mary says:

        I agree she was wronged but there are thousands of resturants in their area. She choose this place because 24 hours before Ben and Lindsay were papped there. This is so obviously Jen Garner trying to get Bens attention and she is looking desperate and pathetic.

        They have been seperated for 2 years, filed for divorce for months now. The time has come for her to pull herselfup by her boot straps and stop obsessing about Ben. She is obsessed and Im sure that does not help her pain. She is making herself look kinda crazy now. Chelsea Handler isnt doing her any favors

      • tracking says:

        Mary, I don’t get this being about desperately trying to get her ex’s attention, other than to say “mofo you don’t get to claim *my* restaurant with your long-term sidepiece.”

      • Tiffany :) says:

        “there are thousands of resturants in their area.”

        Um, there aren’t thousands of restaurants that are this beloved. This is an exceptional restaurant. Rihanna, for example, has been photographed dozens of times at this place (by herself, with Drake, with Chris Martin). If Garner was with a group of friends who were planning a dinner date, it is not surprising at all they chose this restaurant.

      • KiddVicious says:

        It could also be they had the reservation before Ben. If this restaurant is so popular it’s not that easy to get in without a reservation weeks in advance. I don’t think Chelsea or Jen have the name power to get in within 24 hours. Rihanna could, Chelsea and Jen probably couldn’t.

    • Kate says:

      We’ve been saying since 2009 and the Blake Lively debacle that Ben Affleck is a cheating, lying scumbag. She has all the ressources in the world to leave, yet she’s still there, giving him cover, birthing his children. There comes a point when you’ve got to wonder about this woman’s dignity. With Ben, there is no question, no mystery: he likes to cheat and he had found a very forgiving woman.

      • detritus says:

        Kate, I’m sorry, but I’m going to respond to this.

        This is the exact attitude I’m talking about.

        Ben has more experience grooming and manipulating because he has many victims, he’s better at grooming than they are at seeing the warning signs.
        Why does him being greatly convincing impact how you view her? Instead of realizing what a hold he must have, you are labelling her as lesser.

        Is it because you want to label her stupid? Honestly, what is the deep reason here?

      • Erinn says:

        And we as outsiders to the relationship only see the stuff that’s showing up in the gossip rags. Do you think guys like this are only ever miserable to be around? That they only make mistake after mistake? Because there’s a reason relationships with people like that carry on – they know when to turn on the charm. They’re not treating their wives like garbage ALL of the time. They’re doing that – sure. But they’re also smart enough to show their good sides when it counts, and I can imagine that good side came out a lot when he was around the kids. It just has to be enough to throw some doubts into the wives head that breaking up is the right decision. And on top of that I’m sure she hears the kids saying “I’m so glad daddy is around!” or “are you and dad going to live together again?” or the “I miss dad. When is he coming home”.

        I can absolutely see why this relationship drug out longer than it should have. And it seems like Ben was expecting to have his cake and eat it too – it’s like he wanted a wife, but also to be able to sleep with other women when it suited him – if he didn’t want to be around Jen he didn’t have to be.

      • Kate says:

        @detritus, there is zero proof that he groomed or abused her, unless you consider cheating abusive in itself. If she was abused, then I am sorry for her and her children and glad she got out of the relationship.
        The only thing we know for sure is that she, as a 33 year old, CHOSE to marry a man who very publicly cheated on his ex with strippers just a few weeks before his wedding. We also know that cheating rumors started very early on their marriage, peaked during the shooting of the Town some EIGHT years ago and never stopped since then.
        Again, Ben Affleck’s behavior is very easy to understand. This asshole is living the high life: he has the wife and the beautiful kids and the pr perks that come with it, a wife who turns a blind eye to some very open cheating (because he’s not the only actor who cheats in Hollywood, but few end up involved in that many scandals) and mistresses on several towns! Of course, he does not want to divorce, he’s a cheat, a liar and a coward who found someone who accepts all of this bs!
        But with Jennifer, I do not get it. I don’t even like her and even I think she can do a hundred millions times better than this dog (apologies to dogs). Hence, my focusing on her. But again, I will repeat it: Ben Affleck is an asshole of epic proportions!!

      • cindy says:

        I can’t stand Affleck. If I was Jen I would be furious. But if there is one good thing in her favor, its that Ben will self-destruct all on his own. This is not a situation where Ben had a midlife crisis and traded up and now she has to watch him live life with no consequences. Ben is self-imploding, and am I the only one who wonders if he may not be around long? He looks horrible, like end stage alcoholic to me. Or drug addict past the point of return. Jen does not need to prove anything whatsoever, and *that* is why I don’t get her hyper vigilance about maintaining her image in the public. She doesn’t have to! Look at that picture of Ben and Lindsey smiling and laughing like fools for the paps in Ben’s gross stained shirt. That *is* revenge. Jen is good parent, that is so well established that she doesn’t need to do all this extra stuff. Especially not with Chelsea Handler. Jen has already won in the court of public opinion. Calling paps obsessively is unnecessary.

      • detritus says:

        Kate, if you notice I don’t say abused, although there is the argument that by exposing her unknowingly to his sexual infidelity he sexually assaulted her by exposing her to risk she did not agree to.

        I say groomed. He groomed her to take his shit basically. I do not believe he didn’t gaslight or otherwise emotionally manipulate her though. That sounds very much like his MO.

        You are still blaming her for believing him, not blaming him for misrepresenting.

      • Kate says:

        @detritus. I blame Ben for the cheating in itself more than the lying about it to be honest. It’s much worse to me (especially the freaking nanny, just how low can you get?).
        Also I’m not sure I believe that he had to misrepresent anything. He’s Ben Affleck. Sorry to be graphic, but he spent the weeks before what was supposed to be his first wedding with his head between some strippers’ tighs. That is not even talking about what whappened DURING his marriage to Jen. That is who he is. If you married Ben A, you either accept his cheating or you leave him, early on. He cheated on Goop, he cheated on JLO, he cheated on her, he kind of already cheated on Lindsay with the nanny. Why did Jen think she was going to be any different? Did she buy into his PR that he just wasn’t with the right Jen (loooooooooooooool)?

    • Down and Out says:

      This x a million. These “psycho” comments made me wonder if I had accidentally stumbled into a men’s rights forum. Y’all can criticism her choices all you want, but maybe don’t light the torches over her smiling? Just a thought.

    • Luca76 says:

      Ummm if this were in the immediate aftermath I’d be all for it but they’ve been separated for years and divorce papers have been filed. There’s definitely definitely something off with Jen Jen.

      • detritus says:

        Why?

        Instead of recognizing that he’s probably been laying the groundwork and trying very hard to convince her of his truth. And how well that worked for years, She would have had to shake the love of her husband, shake the idea that he isn’t the best man ever, and reevaluate over 10 years of a relationship. Why does she need to complete this in a specific time period?

        Would you be saying this if she had been hit instead of just cheated on and gaslit?

    • ORIGINAL T.C. says:

      I don’t think anyone on this site thinks she deserved to be cheated on, we are just sick of the media games both she and Ben play.

      I personally have never had any sympathy for Jen Gardner. She got with Ben after he disastrously cheated on J.Lo with a stripper before their wedding. She knew what she was getting into but somehow believed that she was more pure than J.Lo so Ben will never cheat on her! There have been rumors of his cheating throughout the years but she continued sleeping with him and having more children. She claimed to have left him before Nanny-gate yet she wouldn’t file for a divorce.

      It’s been two years after Nanny-gate yet she continued to play the will they or won’t they divorce game. While others on this site said it was wise to stay with Ben to keep the family together, I think it’s horrible role-modeling to your children. And now there is supposed to be fresh outrage from her about Ben’s new girlfriend? After Nannygate?

      Ben Affleck is filthy, we all know that. She’s the one that needs to imprint that on her brain and move on.

      • detritus says:

        I think she is very good at spinning PR, I guess I just don’t think that most good PR is based on nothing. Good PR is usually based on a kernel or more of truth.

        It’s the judgement that she hasn’t completely given up, or that not completely giving up means shes either a manipulator in this situation or a doormat. I firmly believe she is setting a bad example for her kids, but so is Ben. More so than she is, and he doesn’t get that flack nearly as much.

        We’re basically judging her for not getting over it in a timeline we deem appropriate.

        It just seems like another chance to shit on someone for not doing this as we would. Or even more, make ourselves feel safe about our chances of this happening to us. If she’s stupid and the signs are obvious, than everyone here is safe from that right?

      • Kate says:

        Good PR has nothing to do with the truth. Up until a few years ago, Johnny Depp has excellent pr, even though his managers and probably many others knew he abused his wife. Hell, even Bill Cosby had once excellent pr and spend most of his days drugging and raping folks.

      • detritus says:

        Image and brand are more successful when they don’t require a completely different attitude and character. Depps rockstar rebel personal life is pretty on par with his PR, they just hid the unsavory parts of his personality.

        What exactly is your point here? That all PR is false?

        If you believe that, then why should Jen have believed the stories about Ben (which ones btw the gambling and cheating or the good boy fallen on rough times)?
        You are applying inconsistent rules based on who you like, and its sexist.

        Ben stayed in this broken relationship just as long, and he was the partner acting out and hurting the other. This is on him.

      • Kate says:

        Not all PR is false but yes, I believe that many star brands have little to do with reality.
        Regarding Jen, you act like the only thing she has at her disposal is pr soundbites, Celebitchy and a few blind items. She was married to him, she lives with him. When he’s out there gambling all night (and probably having sex with some random as well), doesn’t she wonder what is going on? If he’s supposed to be in one place and then is papped somewhere else, isn’t that normal to be a tad suspicious?
        And I never believed any of the good boy fallen on rough times stories. Ben is just a relatively attractive and talented white guy which is enough to fool some. Everything you need to know abut him is on that interview he did with the journalist he was hugging and groping. He is a pig.

      • magnoliarose says:

        PR is not necessarily built on any truth. Sometimes it is based on facts but wildly embellished to build a persona for a celebrity. At one time she had a terrible reputation as being difficult and unpleasant. But her image was girl next door. It seems she has mellowed but she isn’t the warm cuddly type. Absolutely nothing wrong with that but it can’t really be packaged.
        When they go to pap restaurants it is on purpose because they can go to a thousand places to eat unnoticed if they want to. If they are papped then they have to reason for it.
        To keep blaming Ben for her choice to stay is saying she has no responsibility for her own life. No one is a martyr and there are no prizes for endurance in a bad marriage. Her time would be better spent figuring out why she stayed so long when she has the means to easily live on her own.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      I agree. I find it really odd when people act like she is trying to be a good mom for the “minivan majority”…instead of just trying to be a good mom because that is what most women do when the have kids. Does anyone aim to be a bad mom?

      • detritus says:

        this is a good point too, no one is trying to be a bad mom. she may think delaying and prolonging is painful to her, but less painful for the kids.
        we don’t know her reasoning.

      • Kate says:

        I think she is trying her best to be a good parent in difficult circunstances. It sometimes seems she is the only parent but I don’t think she’s providing a great example to her children when it comes to relationship. Ben is a lost cause when it comes to parenting IMO, even when he’s physically there, he’s not mentally there.

  17. Fanny says:

    Why did she wait so long? Stories say the affair was from 2013-2015 and Jennifer found out about it in 2015. The separation was announced and the moving vans arrived in mid-2015. It doesn’t sound like she waited to me.

    It’s pretty obvious that Jennifer spent a long time trying to work through (mainly Ben’s) problems before giving up on the marriage, but the affair being the final straw seems pretty plausible.

  18. Paisley says:

    The only thing I question is why Jen would hang out with Chelsea Handler? Ugh!

  19. Maria says:

    I honestly think Jen put up with him for so long because status. I mean the last decent thing she was in was Dallas Buyers Club and let’s be honest, anyone could have played her role. She’s not that great of an actress. Her star will dim when she’s no longer the wife of big A-lister Ben Affleck. Or this is what she thinks. She may actually blossom.
    Btw Ben looks disgusting in the pic, like who the hell wants to be with that? Ohhhh what money and fame will get you.

    • Cheri says:

      I think that’s why she got into the relationship in the first place. She’s traded her way up along the Hollywood ladder, ditching her first husband for her costar and then ditching him, and getting him fired while hooking up with Ben, (while he was engaged to Jlo) So to me, they are both cheaters and like to play games. This is a slip up though, no doubt about it. She needs to not be stalking him, but be seen around L.A. looking great and happy. And if she really wanted revenge, she could just keep on with her life, being a great parent, sober, healthy and out on the dating scene. Or take Ben’s money and produce some films or creative projects, or start a company. Jen’s a hard worker, so I think she could be successful doing something like this. Let Ben sink into the depths of his addictions: gambling, drugs, drinking, and sex. Let him get caught on a date with Lindsay’s nanny, or her best friend, because you know he will.

  20. elle says:

    Jen’s career consists of annoying commercials, direct-to-online movies, and now an awful association w/Chelsea Handler. And it’s just been revealed by Matt Reeves that Ben’s script was dropped for The Batman, presumably because he’s a mess.

    Are Jen/Ben both so hellbent now on destroying each other that they’re willing to risk everything, to put it in Lindsay’s terms, including their careers and “respective families”? So much for conscious uncoupling/amicable coparenting between the LoveOfMyLife and SuperMom.

    WTF really happened behind the scenes since Ben’s rehab and their mutual divorce filing? Lindsay may be the issue, but I think she’s just a pawn in this. As I said on another thread, it’s descended into War Of The Roses. What a shame.

    • Nancy says:

      “And it’s just been revealed by Matt Reeves that Ben’s script was dropped for The Batman, presumably because he’s a mess.”

      Damn. He needs to get his shit together bc this whole mess is affecting to his professional career. First he doesn’t want to direct the movie, second his script was dropped… whats next? Warner kicks him out? OK, this won’t happen but he needs to realize he can’t control this situation on the right way.

      I don’t know but he is getting fallen apart since he is official with Lindsay. I’m worried about him. I think he made the wrong decision when he let Lindsay in his life. I get it she is the best for him, she is an enabler…etc… but he has/had so many lovers. Why her? She is a mess too.

    • The Original G says:

      But I don’t understand how it is that someone identified Ben Affleck as an attractive focus for a millennial/ Marvel audience in the first place? That was a hiring mistake from the get-go for many reasons.He’s got no potential as a franchise leader.

      Why wouldn’t WB kick him out? He’s can open a movie on his name and he’s aged out of leading man territory. It’s smaller movies and netflix for him.

    • Halina says:

      “And it’s just been revealed by Matt Reeves that Ben’s script was dropped for The Batman, presumably because he’s a mess.”

      That’s old news, Ben’s script was dropped as soon as Reeves replaced him as director back in February or so. Apparently it wasn’t even that good of a script, it was already rewritten several times before it got dropped.

  21. KB says:

    Okay she’s starting to look crazy. Same restaurant? And with Chelsea Handler of all people? Chelsea is vile and beneath Jennifer.

    And all the stories and details about confronting the woman’s ex-husband. It’s been years, it’s time to move on. She could do so much better, but she still can’t seem to let him go. He’s not worth it.

  22. Amelie says:

    Ugh the longest separation/divorce in the history of mankind! Not surprised this has happened and while I feel bad that Ben cheated on her and went back to his self-destructive ways, they’ve been separated for two years. She’s had a while to get used to the idea the marriage is irretrievably broken. Just get rid of Ben and move on with your life, you two were never matched well to begin with. I applaud her for no longer acting like a doormat but hanging out with Chelsea Handler is just making me roll my eyes. I always wondered if she’d regret hooking up with Ben when her surprise pregnancy to Violet ended the show Alias. (I’m sure she doesn’t regret having her children, just picking a cheating/self destructive partner to have children with).

  23. Mannori says:

    is like they’re making the rounds pissing on the hot spots in LA to establish which one belongs to whom.

  24. Luca76 says:

    Seriously I can’t they’ve been separated for two years and divorce papers have been filed yes she’s crossed the line into stalker ville with this move. And please don’t tell me she’s only thinking about the kids. If a guy behaved this way he’d be called a stalker. She needs to move on with her life.

  25. I am bored says:

    I thought garner was okay but now that she’s besties with Chelsea ewwww No thanks. Ben looks so nasty in that last pic… Was he cooking in the restaurants kitchen? Sweaty hot mess!!!

  26. The Original G says:

    I don’t know why Jen does what she does. But I am kind of tired of the oft-repeated narrative that her love, the fruit of their loins and a rehab can somehow transform this man’s personality? Ben is who he is and he likes it.

    He likes to gamble and screw around and do as he pleases with or without the approval of Jen’s mini-van enablers. He’s not the marrying kind. His casino ban is up, he’s moved off the property and Jen doesn’t need to be his mother or disapproving wife anymore.

    BTW, none of this makes any of this cliched middle-aged triangle seem interesting or attractive. They’re just going to have to do some good work if they want to earn some real public attention

    • detritus says:

      A major change needs to come from within.
      It doesn’t come from the love of a good woman, from children necessarily, or any of the other cliche shit.
      Making women responsible for mens personal growth is idiotic, and somehow really common place.

      • magnoliarose says:

        But she is doing that to herself. What is there to say about Ben anymore that would be new? He likes being the way he is. He has no plans to change.
        No one is saying she is at fault for him being the way he is. But that it is on her to keep holding on to someone who doesn’t want to be held.

      • The Original G says:

        But the second part is some kind of insistence that Ben MUST change so this drama is somehow purposeful. Ben does not have to change. Ben will continue to live the life he likes on his own terms.

      • detritus says:

        mag – truth, at a certain point though, if you don’t want to be held, you say it clearly. you don’t just stick your dick into things until the other person gets sick of your sh*t. that would be the mature decision. for her maturity would be realizing what he says isn’t as important as what he does, and that will not change. its a certain form of ego to think YOU are the one that will change someone isn’t it?

        TOG – yeah thats the verging into unhealthy territory. You can’t change other people, you can’t control how they react. Your options are to stop caring, or to leave. She tried to find the third option that didn’t exist for far too long. I blame our cultural obsession with the idea that women change men for the better and a ‘good’ woman is required to make a man mature.

      • magnoliarose says:

        detrius- I hate that narrative about a good woman can change a man. A woman’s self worth should never hinge on how her partner behaves. It never works anyway. If he is not what a woman wants from day 1 then it is best to consider if she wants to be married to him as is. Not his potential but who he is at that moment.
        She owes him nothing. Not one thing. If he were a different man I would say he should apologize and be sensitive but he is not and he probably isn’t sorry. I don’t hold her responsible for his problems at all.

  27. Jenfan says:

    For 2 years after the Nanny – you never heard a peep about what Affleck was up to – Jen and her publicist really kept quiet. This Lindsay affair was never talked about – his addictions were not talked about (except here of course). I think as long as he was in line publicly and trying to be a better dad Jen handled it with class. I think him going public with GF and Jen also realizing that he has continued to see her through the 2 years, and trying to pass it off as a new relationship was just too much. When I think back to this past fall – from Sept-Nov they looked like (from the outside) like they were hanging chilling and heading back together. Then starting in Dec she was really not papped with him except looking miserable till after he came out of rehab. I think Jen realizes he was back with Lindsay, or maybe he flat out told her – and the rest is history. I think as long as it was private- Jen kept it that way. Now they went public – all bets are off. I do. It think we will see anymore “coparenting pap shots”. Will we even ever see Ben with his kids …..

    • The Original G says:

      Is he an addict? Or was there just a campaign to medicalize his behaviour so that they could “work it out” and keep their careers on track? Ben just stopped playing his part in this fan-fic narrative?

    • Luca76 says:

      It’s funny in that I think you are right about the chronology and that’s why she’s really a jerk in my book. If they’ve separated and filed for divorce and agreed to be amicable and are doing photo ops putting the kids first etc
      She might have every right to hate this Lindsay person’s guts but the competing photo ops and leaking of the drama is immature and petty and really damaging to the kids.

      • detritus says:

        More damaging that their father stepping out with his brand new piece that he’d been cheating on their mom with for years? Or seeing pictures of him partying with the nanny instead of their mom?

        It takes two to play the game, stop just blaming just the scorned party here.

      • minx says:

        detritus, I don’t think there’s anyone on CB who is defending BA’s cheating. Not that I’ve seen, anyway. That doesn’t mean we can’t eyeroll about post-split JG going out with Handler.

      • detritus says:

        Theres a ton of people focusing more on her post split behaviour than hers though, and most of the negative comments are not about Handler, they are about how Jen is acting post split.
        And people are straight up buying and selling the crazy ex girlfriend narrative.

      • The Original G says:

        @ detritus, why are either of them playing this game?

        The kids have a front row seat in Dimpleville. They know who their parents are and what they’re like. That they both insist on showing all us too is, as minx says, eyerolling.

      • Luca76 says:

        Well I was trying to respond to a comment above but I’ll try to group them together first off cheating isn’t the same as hitting . Cheating is immoral and hurtful but they aren’t criminals and life is a risk. At a certain point she has a responsibility to her children to keep her personal hurt under wraps and not react to what he does in a public way .He may have gaslit her but they’ve also have gone to extensive therapy. As we know both from statements and from photographs that’s where they should be working out their personal issues with each other. And hopefully at a certain point she will come to a place where she doesn’t hand over her self esteem to someone who lies and cheats. No I don’t think Ben is a good guy. I don’t think there is any defense for the things he’s already done to damage his reputation and relationship with the kids but I don’t see how Jen’s actions are stopping anything. The fact that Ben has some deep seeded issues means as a mother she should make more efforts to shield them.They are in fact pouring salt on the wound and continuing the very public drama. And the whole thing about the co parenting only if Ben wasn’t screwing a specific person she doesn’t like is again so immature. I’m not saying it doesn’t hurt and that she doesn’t have the right to hate her guts or that I wouldn’t also but if she’s really concerned with putting the kids first she will stop the tit for tat. Cheating isn’t illegal and in Hollywood it’s not uncommon.

      • detritus says:

        But Luca, why is HE not responsible for this?

        In the end she is reacting to his bad behaviour. Its like saying she’s crying to hard, or too mad. She may have been gaslit, but they went to therapy? That’s your answer as to why she should be held equally or more accountable?

        it’s putting the criticism on the person who had to deal with the short end of the stick. He is just as bad for putting stories out, just as damaging, and he is the one who cheated and stepped out and caused this whole thing in the first place.

        “As a mother she should make more efforts to shield them [from his behaviours]”

        Are you reading what you wrote? Not he should stop doing this for the sake of the children, but SHE needs to hide his crap from the kids. Why is she solely responsible for shielding them from HIS behaviour? He is acting out his worst impulses publicly, and you are calling her out for not being emotionally contained enough regarding it.

        He had 50% to do with making these children. He is 50% responsible for their upbringing and treatment. Just because he’s a twit doesn’t mean she’s responsible for hiding his behaviour from the children. This new narrative of “Jen STALKING Ben” “Jen is a psycho” would be far more hurtful than hearing their mother was hurt by their fathers consistent infidelity.

      • Luca76 says:

        First off I don’t see how you jumped to a conclusion that I don’t think he’s responsible for his behavior. However he’s clearly never going to change or at least not going to change anytime soon.
        So she either has the choice to accept who he is and move on from there or feed the drama that’s not fair but that’s the reality of having kids with someone . The personal discontent of their marriage should be played out in therapy and not the arena of a tabloid. That’s all I’m saying if she wants to tell him off or whatever she needs great but I loose respect for her sparring with him publicly And that specifically is what I mean by shield them from his behavior. I don’t think that means covering for him in a codependent way and in fact I’ve called her out on that before. BTW a few weeks back before this girlfriend showed up that was the party line coming from Jen. Co parenting/conscious uncoupling etc for the sake of the kids and now because he has a new side piece that’s out the window. Do you see how selfish and confusing that is for the kids. Same man, same piccadillos but because he’s publicly screwing someone she hates (for good reason I admit) it’s now world war 3 and the tabloids are involved that’s what I call out Jen on. Ben isn’t going to suddenly become a mature, stable parent. He’s very clearly never been one but her judgement of that seems to be more an issue of who he’s messing around with and how that makes her feel more than anything else.

      • Down and Out says:

        @detritus – I wish I knew you in real life so we could lament about how backwards the world is getting towards women. SMH’ing all morning.

        Under his eye!

      • Green says:

        “But Luca, why is HE not responsible for this? In the end she is reacting to his bad behaviour.”

        Bingo. She’s reacting and can’t stop / refuses to choose to stop the vicious cycle. You can go into his bad behaviour but in the end she’s the one who has to stop the reactive behaviour. Obviously if there has been serious emotional abuse in secret she would need serious help to do that. But from her interviews it looks like she’s more than able of hitting the brakes on always reacting and start doing her own thing. This doesn’t excuse his awfulness as a person but we’re talking about Jen Garner (apparently) not being proactive here. I don’t get why casting her as the victim is looking out for your fellow women, or saying she could do things differently means blaming her for everything and saying Ben Affleck is not responsible for anything. No sign of her being a victim of serious abuse from Affleck.

      • Sarina says:

        It’s deep-seated, not deep-seeded. But I see your point.

  28. Iknowwhatboyslike says:

    Jennifer being around Chelsea Handler is more problematic than going to the same restaurant that Ben and his side-piece went to. No one knows the significance of said restaurant. maybe it’s a place that her husband has taken her to in the past and she’s reclaiming it. Letting Ben know that he’s not going to ruin her spot. That’s how over him she is. How do we know he didn’t start the petty and she’s just proving a point? We can all say we would take the high road, but I know for a fact that passive aggressive petty, like this, would be my thing. I wouldn’t bad mouth, I wouldn’t curse him out, but yeah, I would troll the hell out of his behind.

  29. corporatestepsister says:

    I sincerely think she’s going to go all Betty Broderick on him. She’s too old for this petty BS and clearly she’s not going to let him go quietly.

  30. magnoliarose says:

    I don’t know how anyone can think this is healthy or normal in this case. They have been separated for 2 years. They are nearly divorced. There is nothing empowering about hanging with Chelsea Handler and getting papped on purpose at the same place he went with his new girlfriend. This isn’t an accident.
    If that were me I would want my friends to kidnap me and lock me away until I got some sense in my head and didn’t embarrass myself any further. Doing all this for a man who has made it clear to the world that he never wanted you but since you make life easier for him he will let you stick around makes no sense.
    It needs to stop.

    • winter says:

      @magnoliarose her eating at the same place Ben took his three year side woman is not normal thousands of other place to eat with her friends she choose that i think she has some hard core mental issues that therapy has not dealt with yet . I think her biggest issue ls that she scaled her career gave him a good image when needed for NOTHING all for him to not give two fucks anymore she knows that Lindsay Shookus is not his real type he will go for young hot

      • magnoliarose says:

        LA has many many places to go. She isn’t banned from the restaurant but the timing is problematic. There is nothing to prove to anyone. By doing this she is fueling the pain instead of moving through it. If they weren’t public figures who have used tabloids to push a narrative then whatever. But this is playing in front of the world and it is not a good thing.

  31. Micki says:

    That’s a copy-paste-Taylor-Swift-stalking-confronting method. Last hope to run into him.
    But Handler?! I hope it’s coincidence.

    • KB says:

      Taylor Swift! This is exactly the kind of thing Swift would do. It’s beneath Jennifer. As is Chelsea Handler.

    • Kate says:

      I roll my eyes at Miss Forever 13′s immaturity but Jen is 45 and has three children. It’s so ridiculous. She needs to spend less time involved in pr wars with the scumbag of the year she calls her husband and more on her own career. Honestly, if Bland Plantation Lively (oh look another one of Ben’s past dalliances) can have a semi decent career, than Jen can win an Oscar.

  32. cherrypie says:

    I hope she learns from her mistake…..the last few months of playing the media game of will they or wont they get back together and having happy family photo-ops just to have everything backfire! Learn from Angelina Jolie….just file for divorce already and make a clean and lasting break!

    OT…..seems she is attempting to up her footwear game in these pap shots with Handler :)

  33. PJ says:

    “Jen is trying to move on with her life. Jen is very strong,” “Jen isn’t focused on dating at the moment” the source says.”

    Ha ha ha. Omg, I’m sorry but, the Kellan Lutz-iness (olllldddddd school Kaiser reference regarding his love of talking in 3rd person) of this actually had me laughing out loud! Did JEN write this up herself?!

  34. Pandy says:

    Good for get for going out but could she wear a bit of make up and maybe a blow dry first? Don’t mind the low key dressing but step it up a little. Although then we’d really paint her as desperate so I guess she can’t win really.

    • minx says:

      Personally I would love to see her dressed up and made up and out on the town, at least once. I disagree with the notion that she can’t be seen out because of her kids. Why? That doesn’t mean she’s sleeping around. Her kids are old enough that they can understand she might want to go out on a date. That’s healthy.

  35. Sage says:

    Isn’t Giorgi Baldi an Ivy type restaurant where all the paps hang out? I don’t think there’s a deep meaning to her dining there with her friends the night after Ben.

    But she’s hanging out with Chelsea…? Gross.

  36. Libra girl says:

    It’s easier said than done to just leave. With children, history and love, it’s tough for any person. Buuuut, if she is so “focused” on the kids then just be that. Sandra Bullock went through it and she disappeared. You’re only in the media if you want to be, period.

  37. Justaposter says:

    I can’t fault anyone trying to work on their marriage. And it is so easy to say ” I would do this or that I this situation”, however, there are so many moving parts in a marriage, so many different things at play. Often what one thinks they will do, and what on actually does, a are polar opposites.

    There is a term ” earn your way out of the marriage”. In a nutshell.. it means you you try what you need to try so you know you tried your best. You know without a doubt you gave it your all, and squashed the what ifs.

    We can throw shade all we want, we also really dont know what goes on behind closed doors, or what one spouse is telling friends. (Somebody has to be the bad guy right?) All anyone can truly do is try to survive while their family implodes

    *hops off soapbox before I fall off*

  38. Lalu says:

    Stalker and bunny boiler? Some of these comments are just bizarre.
    Do some people really believe he’s been desperately trying to escape her clutches for the past two years? That he has begged her to let him go so he can move on? I am not saying that she shouldn’t have figured it out and gotten away from him sooner… Maybe she should have, but I guess if you’ve never dealt with a man like this, you don’t know.
    He was probably calling her while he was in Vegas with his new chick. A guy like him doesn’t just walk away and let you go. He didn’t want to let her go either. A man that wants to leave for his mistress will do it. Kids or no kids. He wanted to be married to her and cheat. And yes, when you deal with someone like that for long enough, I would expect a person to maybe come a little unhinged.

    • The Original G says:

      “Do some people really believe he’s been desperately trying to escape her clutches for the past two years?”

      Nope. I believe he’s been indifferent to what she wants for many years. The mystery is why she keeps putting that out for the paps?

      BTW, he’s indifferent to Snookus’s feelings as well and probably everyone else’s.

      • Deb says:

        Yep. All others Google narcissistic personality disorder if you need help understanding.

      • Lalu says:

        I don’t know them. Maybe you are right and he was indifferent. I don’t believe that… But it’s definitely possible.
        I don’t really understand what she is doing that’s getting the comments that I’m seeing. Especially on this site.

      • The Original G says:

        Lalu. He’s been a serial cheater during their marriage. He spends his free time away from her gambling and drinking, hanging out at Matt’s and living a parallel life separate from her. He has clearly NEVER cared how this affected her (or any of the women he has been involved with). He’s been to rehab, he’s been to therapy and the end result is the same. He does what he pleases even when he knows how much it’s hurt their marriage and family. Indifferent.

      • Luca76 says:

        The Original G yes!!! You get it 110% he’s a hopeless narcissistic d-bag who will never change

      • Lalu says:

        You are aware that there are people that act out in very self destructive ways and then come home and apologize profusely and swear their love etc etc, right? You do realize there is more to a relationship than what we see.
        I know people like this. They can make you feel like the most important person in the world one minute and they’re gone the next. And it becomes almost an addiction and you’re looking for your next fix.
        I don’t believe he was always indifferent to her. He dated her, he slept with her, he married her. Sure, she was way more into him… But you can bet he did just enough to keep her coming back for more. I am sure he’s done that since they’ve been separated.

      • The Original G says:

        I certainly have known people like you describe. That’s how I know that in spite of the fact they can make YOU feel like they care, they don’t. They just say whatever in the moment but there’s nothing deeper. They live among us all.

        I feel for anyone in this situation but there’s no “there” there. Realising that is liberating.

      • The Original G says:

        @Luca76. People like this can be very charming and a lot of fun, very creative, great to work with etc. But, it’s a disaster to expect them to be a dependable partner. He’s not marriage material. One person’s d-bag is another person’s best friend.

      • Luca76 says:

        Sure I get you but I think he’s a d-bag of a partner and that’s what she’s dealing with and expecting different from. Not going to happen.

      • Lalu says:

        I was trying to make the point (maybe not very well) that maybe she isn’t just some crazy ex stalker clinger etc. That this guy most likely kept giving her some reason to hold on. And no, it probably didn’t make sense when you look at it logically but when you are in a family with someone you aren’t always rational. And especially when you are looking for some kind of hope, you tend to want to believe.
        I just had some sympathy for her because I know what she’s going thru can’t be easy. I didn’t understand some of the comments about her being a stalker or that maybe she should go into hiding like she had done something terrible… Or that she should be over it all because we are. She is a human being.

      • The Original G says:

        I have a great deal of sympathy for her. I just think her actions the past couple of years are counter-productive.

        This story has already been written for some time. Unfortunately, she’s had a 12 year troubled, rather unhappy marriage with Affleck . On the plus size, she’s got 3 gorgeous kids, a personal net worth of 60 million, is well regarded in the industry and has a supportive family. I don’t think she has to go into hiding. I do think her family needs privacy and she needs to get out the press for a while and heal.

      • Lalu says:

        G… I can def agree with everything in your last post.

  39. LearningtheSystem says:

    Can we redirect for just a moment?
    Why do you suppose he CHOSE (and he did) that particular restaurant to be the first outing (knowing it was a pap favorite) with his new GF? Coincidence? Of course not! It is clearly intended to shoot the middle finger at Jen, since it was a favorite of theirs and they frequented it as a couple, and I also read they took the kids there as well. Come on! Remember who he is and what he’s done to her?

    Instead of letting that humiliation own her again, she went back there with her friends and had a great time. Good for her. I think it had way more to do with her response to his rather personal attack than a PR thing. Yes, the paps were there, but I do think (having been in a relationship with emotional abuse before) that it was important for her to let him see that it didn’t find a target this time and for her to know she is ok and isn’t going to let that stuff shut her down emotionally any more. Remember the year of wine she told us about?

    Recognize this stuff for that it is – they are people first and celebrities second.

    • magnoliarose says:

      But why bother doing it? Honestly I really don’t think he thought of it that way. I don’t think he is that thoughtful. It probably never entered his mind that it would hurt her. He just wanted a pizza that he likes. Ben is self absorbed and her feelings don’t matter to him. That is worse than if he really was trying to make some move. He was showing off his new younger lady to the paps and I am sure Jen was not on his mind for one moment. That is what we are saying. He doesn’t care about her sacrifices or her feelings. Ben gets no pass for being a jerk but that is what he is. Nothing new. No surprises. She can’t show him she is worth it or over him or anything because he doesn’t give a damn. It is pointless.
      She is still reacting to him when he is off creating his whatever. Just because he is an asshat that doesn’t excuse every last thing she does. He can be a jerk and she can behave in ways that aren’t productive. Her reactions to Ben aren’t Ben’s to handle and even it they were he wouldn’t accept the responsibility.
      She has to move on and create new memories and a life as Jennifer Garner not Mrs. Affleck.
      One those repeated things but in this case it is true: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting a different result.

    • detritus says:

      I think a lot of people are unaware of what manipulative and controlling behaviour looks like.

      He literally took her to the restaurant they used to go to as a happy family, and now shes painted as crazy for going there herself.

    • Green says:

      “It is clearly intended to shoot the middle finger at Jen, since it was a favorite of theirs and they frequented it as a couple, and I also read they took the kids there as well. Come on! Remember who he is and what he’s done to her?”

      We don’t know whether he’s an emotional abuser or not, in private. And we don’t know if she’s the play-victim type. We don’t know ANYTHING about their private life except he is a low-down dirty POS who serially cheats and she put up with it for years.

      However we do know before he went to this restaurant Jen Garner leaked about his three-year-affair thing, in response to his leaks about it being a totally new romance. This appearance seemed to be Ben Affleck’s response to that. They’re fighting it out in public. Let’s not assume he gaslighted her nonstop or abused her, because we have no way to know and it’s not even empowering for the woman in this toxic co-parenting situation to be thought of that way. They’re both pathetic in their unique ways. Jen needs to get out of LA and go have a long holiday away from it all. Can’t be easy for her but she needs to stop putting the dirty laundry out there. Take a breather and do an interview in three, six months to set the record straight on any other of his lies if necessary.

  40. Scout says:

    It’s incredible how any post about Ben’s bullshit, Ben’s addictions, Ben’s cheating, etc. all come back around to J.G. being responsible/at fault. It’s especially sad to see these in a comments section for a blog geared toward women.

    • minx says:

      Who said that? I have not seen anyone blaming her for his behavior,

    • Jeesie says:

      I don’t blame her for any of his problems. They were there long before she came into the picture, they’ll be there long after. His actions are his own to answer for.

      But by that same token, so are hers. He’s an addict, a cheater, a workaholic who has almost no interest in being involved with family life. That’s not Jen’s fault. But choosing to marry and have children with him is.

      Ben has never been a guy with secret vices. It’s all always been on display. Jen entered into a relationship with him knowing he was an alcoholic, knowing he was a drug addict, knowing he was a gambling addict, knowing he was a cheater and knowing he was the kind of person who’d rather end an engagement by humiliating his fiancée and himself with a huge stripper scandal rather than simply breaking up with her.

      That’s the man she chose to have children with. His behaviour says nothing about her, but the fact that she wanted him and put up with him in spite of it says an awful lot.

      I have no sympathy for her. I have a ton of it for their children.

    • detritus says:

      It’s a lot of, oh yeah he’s awful, but she should have known better so it’s on her.
      Um what? This is straight up victim blaming.

      Not necessarily in the abusive context it’s usually used in this space, but in the context of Jen being a victim of his actions and being blamed for their outcome.

      She is not responsible for hiding his dirt. I honestly think at a certain point it’s unhealthy for the kids as well to hide who their father is as well.w

  41. Sam says:

    Jennifer Garner hangs out with racist-ass Chelsea Handler? So she likes people who makes racist comments about children. Huh.

  42. Ana says:

    SNL has been nominated for a lot of Emmys. This means Ben’s new GF, formerly mistress, will be there. Can’t wait to see her smug face.

    JG hanging out with Chelsea is not a good PR but who knows. Both of them could be sending a message to Ben’s new GF. There could be some history there between the new GF and Chelsea.

    • Tina says:

      IMO Ben Affleck would be a nightmare of an ex-husband. There have been blinds over the years of him drunk-calling women . Lindsay will have her hands full. I wonder how her ex feels knowing Ben will be around his daughter at some point? I think these two will marry as soon as they are able. If they want a child together they may not even wait to legally marry. Jennifer is photographed again today going for therapy. I hope it helps her and her family.

  43. Green says:

    She’s getting painful to watch. Those paps just happened to be hanging around that restaurant 24 hours later because Ben and new gf might be going there again. Sure.

    And the fact she’s leaking she’s not embarrassed just means she’s embarrassed. Why would you even bother mentioning that? I didn’t even think she’d be embarrassed. Everyone in the world knows her husband is a massive douche/low-life.

    That 24/7 smile isn’t a smile; it’s a grimace.

    • Mannori says:

      Wrong: paps are stationed in some celeb spots in LA: Giorgio Baldi is one of them.

      • Green says:

        But of course Jen Garner would never know that.

      • Mannori says:

        @green they all know that, Ben, Jennifer and Lindsay included. If they want to be papped they go to Baldi and all the other celeb spots. Baldi was one of their favourites restaurants, so my point is that ben wanted to be papped for the fist time to make it official with the mistress in one of the restaurants they loved as a family. Maybe he likes the food so much and he doesn’t feel the need to take his mistress to another restaurant? fine but then why Garner has to stop going to said restaurant? who was the cheater? ben is the one showing the childish behaviour, not Garner, and believe me, I’m far from a Garner fan

  44. Carol says:

    If they both want to reside in the same town for the sake of their children, they need to find a way to coexist.
    I felt they were doing a good job of that until Ben went public with Lindsay. I feel Jen was terribly caught off guard and Ben should have communicated to her for no other reason than she is the mother of his children. If they are able to coexist, their children will be all the better for it!

  45. Mannori says:

    Now I’m reading that both restaurants where Ben took his mistress promoted main are places where he and Jennifer frequented together, so is Affleck the one pulling the douche move by taking his mistress to places where he went to with his family. Sure it could be that they just like the food there but his first public outing with Lindsay was at Baldi and was sure as hell tipped to the paps or at least he knew they would be there and didn’t care.

  46. Carolkoi says:

    I really think if Ben wanted to really rub Jen’s nose in it, he would have gone public at a Red Sox game. Remember that is how he went public with Jennifer! Maybe that is coming!

  47. Tina says:

    Interesting comment on today’s X-17 video of Jennifer Garner. It seems like it is coming from someone close to him.

    • LearningtheSystem says:

      Yeah, blaming Jen because she isn’t willing to protect Ben’s reputation any more, so it’s all her fault he had to come out with the new GF, when he was holding back for the CHILDREN’S SAKE. He also denied the nanny for the CHILDREN’S SAKE, but Jen had to admit that, too.

      I think he believes what he’s writing, which is tragic. Ladies, take note! This is how it is ALWAYS twisted to make the women culpable for the men’s behavior.

      • Tina says:

        I thought the same thing – it is all about him. He wanted happiness, he wanted to quietly introduce Lindsay after the divorce, and the obvious reference to the money she will receive in the settlement. If he wanted out he should have left. This is on him.

    • someone says:

      That comment on X17 makes me so angry, especially since it perfectly sums up Ben’s narrative: don’t tell the world what a cheating jerk I am because it will hurt the kids. Don’t mention the Nanny because it will hurt the kids. Don’t talk about my addictions because it will hurt the kids. Well too late Ben, the world AND your kids know what a mess you are. Yes maybe the kids don’t know the details but come on, they know the nanny had to leave for a reason. Kids always know more than what is told directly to them and not because they read it on the internet either. Ben hiding behind “it’s for the kids sake” is the ultimate low.

    • Lisa says:

      I don’t think “Wally” is anyone who knows him, just some unhinged person who thinks he/she knows him from what they read and see in photos (hey, like us!)

      The father of a little girl in my class left his wife for the mother of a boy in my class (she was at least divorced) and believe me she knew. Kids know. She told me “my dad left us” and you can tell them till you are blue in the face he didn’t leave YOU but that’s how they feel as second graders (Sera’s age, or rather Violet’s age when they split). You can try to shield them for a while but the truth comes out.

      Plus Jen did that interview when she said “I had to tell them the meaning of scandal” which meant they knew about Nanny (hard to shield them from that, it was all over everywhere). So protecting Ben for them — that ship has sailed.

  48. Caroline says:

    Lindsay was an associate producer on 30 Rock. I wonder what Tina Fey knows?
    Ironically, Jen said “When I can’t sleep and I need something to switch my brain off, it has been Tina Fey and Amy Poehler”

  49. Carol says:

    I was rereading Jen’s infamous Vanity Fair article. Jen did her interview at an Italian restaurant . That’s food for thought! It didn’t say the name of the restaurant
    Ben also said in his interview that “she felt like she wanted to discuss it and get it out there and get it over with so she could say “Look i already talked about it – I don’t want to do it again.” IMO I feel that she won’t do any interviews regarding her separation from Ben.

  50. Carolkoi says:

    E News just said that Ben used to take Jen at that restaurant for Valentine’s Day and that was her favorite restaurant. E showed a older pic of them going their for Valentine’s Day .
    It went on to say something like Ben should have know better.

  51. Candies says:

    She is another drama queen. She must be trilled this is sympathy for her now and she will capitalise on this and and milk it for popularity and carrier benefits imo.
    they spilt at least 3 years ago? she is okay with all his deeds and gratify him AS LONG AS she is the one who has the cover of being a wife and relationship…ah not supportable enough for me.

    I’m not supporting him it just that he is a guy who has been in rehab twice and men always get away easier in this and that he being a Douchy is well known and he doest hide it. Almost like he say take it or leave it…and she did and she needs to stop losing her mind now imo..

    He is fool he doesn’t know he is letting his carrier and fan base to be overshadowed with two women fighting and let things be about vendetta not him . why anyone let that in 2017 to themselves? Lol

    • Sarina says:

      *Career. And Aniston took almost 10 years to stop her pity parties, and no one told her to grow up and stop milking it like a drama queen, and to stop riding Brangelina’s coat-tails, Ms Teflon Aniston gets a free pass for everything, even her adultery and affairs, so even if it is only 3 years for Garner, (in reality they only just truly split), she still has a long way to go.

  52. Heatwave says:

    Not to be mean but Jennifer Garner needs a personal shopper, she wears clothes that don’t enhance her looks…just my opinion. She’s great otherwise.

  53. Daisy says:

    Chelsea handler of all people speechless

  54. Desiree says:

    She is probably smiling with that ticket because it’s on a car in Bens name. :)