In January 2023, just days before Prince Harry’s Spare was published worldwide, the Guardian broke one of the biggest stories from the memoir. That story? That Prince William had assaulted Harry in Nottingham Cottage in early 2019. Harry wrote about how his brother came to his home when Meghan wasn’t there, and William began ranting about how Meghan “treated staff” and how Harry needed to do something about something? While Harry sort of talked around it, it felt like William was arguing that Harry needed to leave Meghan and/or send Meghan packing. When Harry argued back, William trailed Harry into the kitchen, suddenly grabbed him and threw Harry to the floor. Harry fell on and broke the dog bowl and William managed to rip off Harry’s necklace as well. Harry was left with bruises, which were later seen by Meghan.
In many ways, we had been primed for this story from William’s own loyalists and sycophants, who spoke for years about William’s “incandescent rage” or “catatonic rage” and violent fury when it came to… his brother marrying a beautiful American woman. William’s loyalists have rarely doubted Harry’s story either, they’ve just spent the past three years twisting themselves in knots to excuse William or minimize his violence. Well, in Russell Myers’ new book William & Catherine, an unnamed source now disputes the “William assaulted Harry” story.
Prince Harry’s claim Prince William physically assaulted him in a heated row was “massively overblown”, an insider has revealed. Sources close to the Prince of Wales say Harry’s account of the altercation, which saw William confront his younger brother over his wife Meghan’s behaviour towards palace staff, was a “cheap shot”.
A new biography, William and Catherine: The Intimate Inside Story, by The Mirror’s royal editor Russell Myers, reveals for the first time how sources with knowledge of the incident questioned the claims made by Harry in his bombshell memoir, Spare. The allegation that the warring brothers got into a physical altercation when William questioned Harry about Meghan being ‘difficult’ and ‘abrasive’ to those working for the Royal Family was one of the most explosive in Harry’s autobiography.
The Duke of Sussex claimed that during the incident at Harry’s former home of Nottingham Cottage in Kensington Palace, William grabbed him by the collar, knocked him to the floor, which ripped his necklace, and caused a dog bowl that Harry landed on, to crack under his back.
William has always remained silent on the claims, but in William and Catherine: The Intimate Inside Story, a source says: “It was a cheap shot [from Harry] to present such an argument. Tensions were running very high, and yes, there certainly were cross words exchanged that on reflection were regrettable, but the prince [William] is adamant there was no physical violence.”
In Spare, Harry accuses William of peddling the tabloid narrative about Meghan, which led to the tense argument. But a source included in the book says that staff had been “ground down” by the Sussexes and adds: “It wasn’t peddling a tabloid narrative to stick up for staff that were deeply unhappy to the point of walking away or having their mental health being affected.”
Yeah, I don’t believe that an unnamed source has the big scoop three years after Spare was published and seven years after the incident in question. For three years, no one has managed to get anyone on or off the record to dispute the story – William’s camp practically took the position of “William was completely justified no matter what.” The thing about Harry’s narrative is that it was one of several missing pieces we needed to fill in the larger story of “what really happened” and “why Harry and Meghan had to get the hell out of there.” If anything, I genuinely believe that Harry edited out additional stories of William’s aggression and perhaps even William’s violence. I also believe Harry likely downplayed some of the verbally abusive things William said as well.
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So he interviewed Jason?
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Willy paid him for this ai trash via his bff Jason. Jason should be dragged before the courts properly but king willys boyfriend will always be protected.
Exactly, now trying to paint Willy as a victim
They all know William did it. As for a source/friend now saying he didn’t – well, they would say that, wouldn’t they? 😅🤣😂
Unnamed sources that weren’t there can say what they like, I know who I believe. This is a pretty weak attempt to clear pegs name performed far too late to make any impact.
The timing is so weird. Why are they bringing this up right as the whole monarchy is under review for their support of Andrew?
But also, I have long suspected that the reason William got aggressive is because Harry probably said, “You are the last person I’d ever accept advice about women from, considering your affairs.”
Sorry, no, I’m not buying this revisionist story. If it was untrue, it would have been disputed right away. But it couldn’t be disputed.
Agree. This kind of sounds like Harry- and Meghan-baiting to me, daring them to come out and contradict William trying to say it didn’t happen. Ofc Harry and Meghan have receipts; didn’t Harry say in Spare that Meghan persuaded him to discuss the incident (and for all we know, any similar incidents) with his therapist? So there’s at least one third party who could confirm….but I doubt Harry and Meghan would take the bait
I am certain that Meghan has time stamped pics of Harry’s broken necklace and bruised back.
Yeah, William is a fool if he is baiting them bc yeah I bet they’ve got receipts and even more stories.
I think very little went into that book that harry can’t back up in one form or another, especially once he left his childhood.
And not even could it not be disputed, but the press practically confirmed it with their countless stories about William being incandescent with rage, constant anger about anything and everything, and stories about his vengeful temper. It felt like for a long period, every single story about William included commentary about his rage issues. The rota rats were trying to tell us something or confirm something.
And, as you said, not one single thing Harry wrote was ever disputed. It was only about how Harry shouldn’t spill family secrets. They (the family, the rota rats) all know the truth.
Not only did they never dispute this claim at the time or the years since Harry wrote about it, but they bragged and tried to justify it as him defending staff. They even wrote articles describing his heated arguments with his wife. We have photos and videos that span decades of William hitting his mother, father and putting his finger in his wife’s face out of anger. His actions and failure to dispute it in real time is confirmation that this actually happened.
I want to also stress how the justification they gave for him doing it in defense of staff who were “unhappy to the point of walking away or having mental health being affected” is in response to staff who before Meghan even married into that family were leaking their dislike for this “American degree wife” who they “refuse to take orders from” even before she became a working royal. The happiness of Will and Kate’s staff for them taking precedence over Meghan’s happiness and mental health which was perfectly fine for three decades before she met that racist heap of trash family. We are talking about a woman who contemplated suicide at the hands of William, Kate and their staff while at KP and in the UK. She lost a child at the hands of William giving his boyfriend the okay to lie for Daily Fail in court. So I don’t want to hear anything about staff being expected to be professional and do their job correctly as being too much for their mental health, when Meghan, Harry and their son were victims of abuse for years for not being okay with being abused and targeted.
Yess, like how Prince Harry swiftly denied/handled the hit job in Andrew Lownie’s book about the Yorks, wherein he stated that Harry had attacked his uncle Andrew (switching nephews much?), and the author and his British publisher were sent lawyer letters, and to avoid being taken to court they had to put a correction note in the already printed copies ,and had to redact the story in future prints. But the more important financial backlash for Lownie was that the book was withdrawn from being published in the US, by his US publisher. He had to self-publish it over there.
That’s how you handle a blatant ‘lie’ about yourself in someone else’s a book, not with a ton of anonymous sources and a stupid, laughable denial, 3+ years later.
Those unnamed sources always come out whenever WanK need them don’t they.. the abuse in the kitchen happened with just W and H in the cottage so any unnamed source is just passing along what Willy told them to say.
There are no sources, Myers is taking liberties and making it up as he goes along, to carry favour for KP.Why am I saying this? When this assault by William on Harry came out in SPARE,I saw and heard Myers on the Lorraine show saying that it can’t be true because he had seen a photo of their kitchen with the dog bowl intact, so he did not believe Harry. So if you break your plate, does it mean you cannot replace it? This is how gullible these rota rats think the British public is, and it’s been working so far, so who can blame them. Myers book will flop like most of the royal books. He should speak to Jobbo and Katie Nicholls and many more, they have lived it, being notable serial flops and all!
This is a weird thing to finally attempt to dispute, years later after numerous books have been written about the Sussexes departure and the Wales since Spare came out. Almost as if you’re trying to get ahead of more reports of your ” tendencies”.
I don’t know what that crisis manager is doing, but they’re throwing everything at the wall now. Which would lead me to believe that William has been involved in so much shady stuff, that they don’t know what may come to light. This doesn’t feel like a cohesive strategy about specific details of an event you know will be coming out, this feels like someone terrified that they don’t know what’s coming out. Giving shades of, I had to retire to Amner Hall for a week before the Oprah interview.
The timing IS odd. I wonder why KP is putting this out now and changing their story from “boys will be boys, William has every right to pummel his brother” to “It never happened, but if it did, it was justified by William’s love for his staff!”. I guess they think it makes W look good that he’s “defending” staff from Meghan’s reign of terror (terror = expecting people to do their jobs).
Personally, and this is just me here, I’m not a fan of anyone I work for resorting to physical violence to “solve” conflict, or being verbally abusive to others. That’s not a safe workplace.
Yes, I agree. It feels like KP is worried that a storm is about to break – but they don’t know where or when or from what direction.
This book would have been written and finalized a few months ago so I don’t think these stories are direct responses to what has come out in the past few weeks. But i do think its meant as general damage control.
Makes you wonder if something happened in the past few years that has been them wanting to repair William’s violent image? One that they didn’t seem to mind when Spare initially came out bc yeah it was v much just a shrug of yeah that’s right William can fight, woo-hoo, what a he-man.
This was how I felt about the crisis manager and the idea she was bright on because of the Files. The fact that W was in Saudi Arabia meeting with MBS when damming info about his middle eastern pals was discovered is a tell. There’s no way any half competent person would’ve sent him there if they had a hint of a clue that there would be problems there, and they didn’t lay down any ahead of time stores about him having discomfort with anyone there.
That means to me they’re flying blind on possible problems, so they’re focusing on putting out cover on what are known problems. Which leads to this sudden denial of violence, about someone papers have always said has a rage problem. That does tell me they do expect something else about that to be exposed (my phone autocorrected else to 🌹 😮).
William looks like a born lout in the photos above. His hands are balled into fists, he is shouting and thuggish. No wonder he and Mike Tindall are friends. In pics where he’s supposed to look royal, he is either contemptuous or awkward.
I know that sports make people passionate – although no one else around him is matching his energy or body language – but he looks really frightening in all of those photos. If this is him happy and excited, imagine what he looks like when he’s angry.
In that top picture, where K is clapping and W is bullish, his hands are not balled into fists; it seems to me to be the first ‘action’ shot where his fists are NOT balled up, enraged. But look at his face!! Whatever K is clapping for, W is ROARING and it’s so over the top, it’s concerning.
W seems to have no emotional control.
Yeah, the timing on this is very suspect. When Spare came out, they denied lots of other stuff in the book, often using named sources like Knauf (who’s a shameless liar, but still). But royalists practically treated this incident like a win for Willy, proving he has cojones, or something. Now they realize the “incandescent Willy” narrative has gotten away from them, so Mayer’s conveniently finds an unnamed source. Sure.
Spare has revealed the unwavering truth about Windsor royals and it will continue to be the most referenced historical text about the Windsor royals for generations to come. I consider it the tome of the Windsor family, reinforced by Princess Diana’s biography (in her own words). Combined Prince Harry and Princess Diana have documented life inside the Windsor family and royal institution with unmatched depth of experience and emotion. Conclusion: The Windsors are a toxic dysfunctional royal ‘mafia’ family and institution. 🤷🏽♀️
The Windsor brand has collapsed and each new royal reporter propaganda book adds another wound to the brand as it reinforces the contradictions the public has now become accustomed to expect from the brand (inauthentic, fake, untruthful, corrupt, immoral, dysfunctional, toxic) and shun in disgust or ignore as apathy has taken hold in some demographics.
Alleged behavior to palace staff the writer should say.. It was a lie about meghan. No question scoots did this and hit Harry
Absolutely true, and Harry actually said in Spare that after he attacked Harry who fell and got marks on his back, William went as far as to warn Harry not to tell Meghan what happened…imagine that!
Okay who is that woman next to William in one of those pictures? Bc it looks like Kristy Noem??
It’s sickening the way derangers applaud scooter telling harry to slow down and not rush into marriage with Meghan. Even though the sissexes are happily married.
Nah. She just has Mar a Lago face. For the life of me I don’t understand why these women voluntarily do that to their faces. It is never not freakishly ugly.
Again, I am going to believe the one that has their name and face attached to the story. In Spare, Harry talked about how William would call Harry and just rip him a new one for no logical reason (and Meghan heard) William is a known rage monster so Harry’s version is very believable.
This is the bottom line for me. Harry put his name to his account of the incident. That gives his account much more veracity than any anonymously sourced version of what happened.
Plus, we all have eyes and we can see that William walks around like a boiling kettle, about to blow. He’s not friendly and likable — he’s terse and defensive.
I believe Harry about the dog bowl incident.
There has to be a reason why the BM could not resist sprinkling some “what if Prince William was arrested” articles soon after Kate’s hospitalisation. I think there was DV that night and she got hurt.
That ahole.
Robert Lacey Battle of the Brothers published in 2020 wrote this event when friends of Wilbur BOASTED about him assaulting his own brother. They mistakenly thought it made Wilbur look good!? When Spare came out people who should know better, mimimised the assault as brothers jostling or rough housing. I have always wondered what would have happened if Meg hadn’t been absent: do you think this thug would have launched an assault on his pregnant SIL as well? Harry would have protected her and woe betide Will if he’d have so much as pointed his finger in her face! It is infuriating how aggressive both W and K have been towards H and M but gaslight and denied or minimised!
On another occasion W did point his finger in M’s face and she told him to kindly take his finger out of her face. M knows how to handle that bully.
I really don’t pay attention to the Rota and their books, so I was unaware that Lacey wrote a book describing an assault by William of Harry in 2020, which was before the Oprah interview, their documentary and Harry’s book. This confirms that William has assaulted Harry before because never has that been disputed and that was a couple of years before Spare with the Rota’s (and the palaces) backing.
Prince Harry had no need to make up that narrative. Pretty sure that is just one incident of many that showcases William’s violence towards him or his wife, perhaps not physical but verbal. In addition, Prince Harry’s biography of his life up until he left for America is a part of historical record. The money grabbing books before and after, or just noise for money and access and will not be taken seriously
Billy Idle is getting this book out because the Epstein scandal is engulfing the BRF and as the heir he is perceived as having knowledge of Andrew’s involvement and being involved in the decisions behind him. Reports of William having ties to Epstein associates don’t help either.
According to their beloved hierarchy, William was, for all intents and purposes, the GM or the CEO of Kensington Palace at the time. So his way of solving a work place communication problem between middle management (Meghan) and the employees is to argue (verbally and physically) with said manager’s husband behind her back? To ask the husband to control the female manager? William can dispute Harry’s version of events all he wants, still he comes across as an incompetent misogynistic ass without a clue about real world corporate culture ethics.
I think William wanted his “warnings about Meghan” before the marriage to be true so badly that he, and his merry band of courtiers orchestrated this bullying scenario to convince Harry to leave a pregnant Meghan. Hell isn’t hot enough for these people. William must have said something absolutely disgusting to Harry for him to admit that he regrets his words.
I can’t remember Harry’s words exactly when he described that assault and what William said, but it was the way that he worded it and trailed off, that gave me the impression that it might have been one of the times that the discussions about having concerns about Harry and Meghan’s children’s skin tones took place. Listening to Harry describe that incident in his audiobook, I got a very troubling feeling when he trailed off when he mentioned the “things” William said that day.
this was the thing with Spare – very little of it was disputed factually. There were some narratives about how it didn’t happen quite like that, or Harry was wrong to share such information, etc – but most of it was not disputed factually (I’m not sure any of it was, I just can’t remember off the top of my head.)
For this particular story, we have never heard that it didn’t happen – which we would have heard right away if that was the case (that it didn’t happen.) We heard that brothers fight, sibling rivalry, harry was making a mountain out of a molehill etc. So sorry, not buying that Harry was lying and its finally coming out now via Russell Myers.
and oh the staff was so ground down, william had no choice but to confront Harry! look, you know what? I bet the staff was ground down. I keep going back to something omid scobie said – that if you’re used to one meeting a month and barely working otherwise and then are expected to have multiple meetings a week (the horror!) and to actually work, you’re going to be upset. The issue was never H&Ms work ethic or attitude, but the attitude of the “workers” based at KP.
I agree with everything you said and would add that the precious staff was actively leaking to the press about them. Yeah, that’ll cause an issue between you and the principals.
Yes!! by that point H&M knew that their staff was actively working against them. Of course there were tensions.
And it enrages me how they keep talking about the mental health of the staff, when we know at this point Meghan was suicidal.
Exactly @Becks1 unlike when Meghan speaks, after Spare there was very little attempt to dispute what Harry said. Only things I can remember was reports that Harry got where he was when the Queen Mother died wrong, about a computer game gift he got not being correct as it hadn’t been released and tk maxx (and kings trust partner) made a pathetic attempt to deny his comment about their sales which even the average consumer was like we know Harry is correct.
Most of the reports about Spare was how dare Harry be indiscreet about his family not that he lied about them.Camilla tominey said yeah they had a ‘brotherly bout’ and was basically like why was Harry being a big baby about it. I remember W&K fans were loving idea that William decked Harry & royal commentators made lots of jokes about the dog bowl. None of them denied it happened.
Plus Russell Myers seems to have missed that Robert Lacey had already been briefed the story about the fight in 2021 after the Oprah interview. And when Spare leaks came out, I saw many media people like Emma Kennedy say on Twitter that they had heard about the fight years ago. So this attempt to downplay William’s violence is new.
I think the palace’s internal polling shows that W&K’s image has been damaged by things like Spare & other reports of William being this rage monster who was always incandescent with rage or the family enforcer who rules with an iron fist.
So now they are trying to portray William as this softer, more relaxed, down to earth guy – see the Eugene levy show & making the most of his football interest or this pub stuff. Kate had a pointed comment on the risk of too much therapy after spare’s release but I think their mental health platform has been damaged by seeming cavalier about H&M’s mental health so think that’s why we had those comments about William supporting Andrew being stripped of title but being concerned about his mental health. Plus the Wales have responded to Spare with hugging everybody in sight and also trying to portray Kate as relaxed and friendly as opposed to the cold stiff, unfriendly portrayal from Spare. So we had James Middleton come out with fake story about how relaxed Kate was meeting her future sister in law with just a T-shirt on or heard about Kate going barefoot at a radio presenter’s home.
Omid’s words along with the leaked complaints early on from staff about not wanting to take orders from an “American actress” or a “degree wife” always gave me the impression that they were intimidated and in return lashed out at Meghan for who she was. Of course add in the misogynoir of them not wanting to take orders from a woman of color, then you have KP staff basically being given the go ahead to abuse her at will. I think about how James Holt (their staffer who moved to the US with them) describing how the energy at KP was divided an then how Meghan would give ice cream parties, give the guards at the entrance to KP hand warmers and how a Rota woman described how there were hugging and tears between Harry and Meghan and their staff at their staff party before they left. Sometimes people not liking someone has nothing to do with the person who isn’t liked and everything to do with the person who doesn’t like them. To me the leaks from staff early on showed us who they were and how this was never going to work, so Will taking the side of staff who had already revealed themselves, shows how desperately he wanted Meghan to be this monster that he, Kate, KP and the media tried to portray publicly with lies.
This is how I remember it as well. They were big mad that Harry told the truth in a book. They know he’s got receipts, they didn’t dare call him a liar.
Back in August 2025 Ian Pelham Turner was interviewed over Zoom, the former royal photographer whose career at the Palace overlapped with both Princess Diana and the then-Prince Charles.
Having since transitioned from photography to television, Pelham Turner remains deeply connected to royal circles and still has his ear to the ground when it comes to life behind palace walls.
Now, he’s sharing claims that Prince William’s own staff have been voicing complaints about the Prince of Wales’ behaviour.
Publicly, William may project a warm, approachable image during royal engagements, but according to Pelham Turner, things look different in private.
“We hear a lot more now that more and more allegations and that’s all you can say about William are coming out,” he said. Among them, reports that staff sometimes find the future king “very aggressive.”
Pelham Turner even recounted a conversation with a volunteer for one of William’s housing charities, who claimed the prince was “constantly on to him all day, all night, saying, ‘How much money have we made? How much money have we made?’”
Beyond the alleged intensity,Turner believes William’s overall temperament has shifted. In his 20s and 30s, he says, the prince was easygoing.
Now in his 40s, with the throne in sight, William is said to have adopted a more formal, demanding presence even insisting on being addressed as “Sir” rather than by his first name.
7 years after the incident, 5 years after Harry and Meghan left the royal institution and the UK, 3 years after “Spare” was published Meyers finally found anonymous sources who were not present at the incident saying that Willi was not violently attacking Harry. Right!
I agree with Kaiser that Harry held back in “Spare” and did not spill all the beans about what really happened and about Willi and his behaviour. In 2023 according to the Telegraph and other tabloids BP and KP were prepared for the worst. Apparently KP and BP were relieved that Harry did not disclose more damaging stories, did not respond with a direct statement and let their anonymous “sources”, insiders and friends, doing the talking on the royal family’s behalf. None of these “sources” disputed Harry’s version of the incident for over 3 years.
There were two people there when it happened I trust the one going on the record with this.
Not some anonymous sources. If they exist do you think Wtold them the truth?
Must re-write history to make incandescent with rage Peg the victim of Harry’s truth telling book!!
It’s interesting that Russell Myers has given this extra story on top of the final excerpt from his book yesterday. It’s clear that his stories are not getting the traction that he would have liked. I’m with Kaiser here, this wasn’t the first time that William violently attacked Harry. Plus, the book doesn’t refute that William attacked Harry only that it didn’t happen in the way it was described on Spare. The time to deny this story was 3 years ago and KP remained silent. I believe Harry told the truth.
This has always been the heart of it for me: Meghan’s experience in the UK was fundamentally a workplace competency debacle for the Royals. Briefly, William is both self-important, and lazy, so he hires yes-men and generally people who are lazy and second rate. He empowers them and they are co-dependent: he is half-assed and so are they. Enter Meghan. Who actually expected these people to get things done, to be respectful and professional and effective. And courteous. And responsive. And…. They weren’t. They were lazy jackasses. This all reflects very poorly indeed on William. But as I have observed many times, when you tell a man he’s hired lame staff, and he needs to clear house, he never listens, because, quite rightly, he interprets this as a criticism of him. And that is in fact exactly what it is. They are an extension of his inflated, bloated ego.
Daniela Relph commenting on Spare noted that William is cast here as the angry, frustrated, pent up big brother. It doesn’t match his public persona of the matey, personable, empathetic royal.
Kensington Palace is not responding to anything Harry has written. Instead, we will see William letting his royal work speak for him. Carrying on with duty. Focussing on vulnerable communities. And trying to move away from the furore. If, that is possible.
Sadly for The Firm no one has EVER observed that FK is hard working at any time of his life and his pitiful lack of achievements since he supposedly became a FT royal continue to show us exactly who he is and isn’t. He is not able to point with any satisfaction or success at his yearly total of memorable projects and events. Apart from punching the arm and screaming at footie matches and then bad temperedly refusing to congratulate the other side if they win he slouches, scowls and balls his fists at royal events.
It doesn’t match his public persona of the matey, personable, empathetic royal. Really Daniela, more like endless bitching about his brother, SIL and King. Angry, petulant and lazy braying like a donkey and fancying himself a wit? He’s a bully and a coward and a weak man who has to lie down and hide when needed to cover for his dad in 2024. He is exactly the short fused bully to lash out physically at family members: he shoved his mum against a wall, shouted at dad, screamed at Harry in front of the Queen at the Sandringham Summit so wouldn’t have a problem losing it totally with Harry in private.
He’s so angry … just look at all these photos. Well incandescent is a liar as well
My husband and I (both of us non-British but living here nearly two decades, both having come originally for work) have observed something really deeply rooted in the British culture of work, if you can call it a culture: there’s an extreme reluctance to say anything that makes anyone remotely uncomfortable. I’m not talking about throwing your weight around, or being rude or confrontational. I’m talking about basic feedback, frank but friendly, in no way antagonising. Both of us have repeatedly been told to tone it down, sugarcoat it, lower our standards, don’t be so hard on people, the poor wee things, and both of us are like…. WTF. ?? Are these people presumed to be competent, adults, capable of initiative, and expected to be accountable? Cause if not, why on earth are they *here* at all??? They are actually much harder on children in primary school (as I have witnessed, repeatedly) than they are on adults in professional roles. There’s a huge cultural lag in addressing these people as if they were capable of being responsible. It passes under the sign of noblesse oblige, but really, it’s something else. It’s like walking on a minefield. If you’re looking for explanations of Sussexit, I’m guessing that is literally no. 1: Meghan and harry wanted to get things *done* and that requires being honest and putting the work in.
That’s a very interesting observation
My friend lived and worked in NZ and spoke about a similar experience. She organized a work culture day around the Maori people and was accused of purposely trying to make the white New Zealanders feel bad. And when she would try to troubleshoot anything she was accused of being too critical towards her coworkers. After having worked in nyc for years, she was shook. And there were def people in the office that thought she was an asshole. Not all but for sure quite a few.
I can understand a different work culture but I can’t ignore that the staff that we are referring to were the same staff who were leaking to the media since before Meghan even married into the family about “refusing to take orders from her” because of her being American, highly educated, an actress and let’s be real, a woman of color. They complained about a 5am email as if she expected them to receive a work email before they arrived at work and expected them to complete the task immediately. It was their own stereotypes about who she was that started all of this. Meghan was 36 years old and had lived and worked in various countries besides the US, so for her to have never had any work issues before or since leaving the UK, it just shows that the problem wasn’t her. I’m not saying that she is perfect, but if the behavior and language of the staff prior to her working with them isn’t a true reflection of their work ethic and personality, I don’t know what is.
Well how the f would a source who was not there in the room possibly know if Willy the incandescent assaulted Harry or not? We have seen pictures of Harry hand when he went to Morocco after that attack. Granted we didn’t know at the time that it was because of his rage full bitter brother . I believe harry because we have seen with our own eyes how willy is always balling his fist and seething with rage
Honestly this seems like an excuse to him battering his brother. Talking about the staff’s mental health. I mean they didn’t care about Meghan’s even a little, so this sounds like crap.
Yeah, that last sentence is cruelty incarnate. Meghan expressed suicidal ideation, while pregnant, and was denied any care at all. You can all go straight to hell.
She begged for help.
This is suing-avoiding language here.
The language is telling the truth; if the attacking of Prince Harry by Willy didn’t happen, the wording should have been: “completely untrue”, “Harry is lying”, “this never happen”.
And by the way: if there were a “witness” from Willy’s camp, why did that person not come forward with their name, years ago?
Anyway, Nice try Willy/Jason/Myers, with the tons of anonymous ”sources in your retelling of the incident, but nobody will buy your version of this clean up job.
One tip for Willy/Jason/Myers:
This is how Prince Harry handled the lie about him beating up uncle Andrew, in Andrew Lownie’s book about the downfall of the Yorks:
Prince Harry swiftly denied/handled the hit job in Andrew Lownie’s book about the Yorks, wherein he stated that Harry had attacked his uncle Andrew (switching nephews much?), and the author and his British publisher were sent lawyer letters, and to avoid being taken to court they had to put a correction note in the already printed copies, had to redact the story in future prints. But the more important financial backlash for Lownie was that the book was withdrawn from being published in the US, by his US publisher. He had to self-publish it over there.
That’s how you handle a blatant ‘lie’ about yourself in someone else’s a book, not with a ton of anonymous sources and a stupid, laughable denial, 3+ years later.
I actually saw an interview with Lownie last week or so, and he clarified that there were two incidents. He clearly mentioned the incident with Harry in 2013. But he said there was an incident where William got angry with Andrew for saying something about Catherine (not Andrew saying anything to Harry about Meghan as reported by the media) He claimed that it was the media that conflated the two incidents to make it seem that Harry hit Andrew because he said something about Meghan.
So there.
“Overblown” = “it happened, but it doesn’t mean what you’re trying to make it mean.”
Calling an incident “overblown” is practically an admission that it happened.
William creates his own bad PR by sucking up to Trump, being murky about Epstein, and going to Saudi to hang around with Epstein loving, murderous princes. Then he thinks, I’d better use Harry as a distraction again.
if he never assaulted his brother wouldn’t he have released a statement on the record denying it?
I’m waiting for an iota of new information from this book. I’ll take something as boring as what Greek islands the Wales and Middletons visited on their yacht tour last summer or what George’s McDonald’s birthday order was that he ordered the yacht. Or a discussion of why Carole Middleton was personally calling creditors of Party Pieces making personal promises to pay bills in order to receive more credit while having no intention kf doing so. Or discussion of William telling no one he and Kate had gotten engaged until 2 hours before the press conference. Or what Charles had his Angela Kelly like staff person leak against William and Kate as described by Harry in spare. Or the origination and reaction to Dan Wooten breaking the Rose Hanbury story.
Harry put his face on his book and told his story and openly told the truth in a straightforward manner. These “unnamed sources” are underhanded cowards. If they are telling the truth then why don’t they show their faces and make these statements publicly?
Speaking of Dan Wootton, it’s worth remembering that the man accused of secretly recording people, his lovers, and then blackmailing them admitted during his court testimony that he received information for articles about Harrego and Meghan from several sources within the palace. Of course, we all know this, but it’s good to hear it in court and confront it with the royals’ claim that they don’t comment 🤣
They don’t comment face-to-face because they’re cowards, but instead they let their servile dogs loose, feeding them slander and lies.
Apart from Harry’s therapist to whom he confined the incident, weren’t there some bruising on Harry’s neck and hands that were evident during their trip to Morocco (I think) just after the fight? I remember seeing them after reading spare and wondering how bad the fight was for Harry to have those kind of bruises. William is permanently incandescent with rage and every single one of the rota knows this and has commented on this in the past.
Yes, it was a sudden attack from behind by a coward. I remember how the slanderers tried to ridicule Harry for being such a soldier, yet his brother easily knocked him down onto a dog bowl.
He knocked him down because he attacked him from behind. They were talking, William yelling and “ordering”/”demanding” him to leave Meghan. Harry said no, turned around, and went to the kitchen. William threw his full weight at the surprised Harry from behind, and Harry, losing his balance, fell to the ground. In a rage, William pinned him down and choked him, screaming, “I love you, but why don’t you do as I say?!” Then he ordered Harry to hit him back. Harry refused, saying he had no intention of hitting him. It was more than certain that if Harry hit back, William would accuse him of assault and call security. Harry’s refusal prevented him from doing so.
Finally, he told Harry not to tell Meghan. Harry didn’t listen to that either.
Totally overblown… The dog bowl didn’t break, it merely cracked. Still perfectly serviceable for Meghan‘s dog.