We haven’t paid much attention to Octomom lately, it’s just been too depressing and predictable. I really dislike her, but it’s almost not worth getting outraged at her anymore (unless you live in California and pay taxes there). She’s just a total mess and the reality is that 14 kids depend on this manic nutjob to have their basic needs met. I’m sure there are worse moms, but that’s setting the bar almost on the ground.
To recap: Octo did a self-pleasure p0rno, she did some stripping gigs that were brain-bleach bad (warning: but go here to see her latest one), she went to rehab last October, and she also went back on welfare again because of course she did. She’s consistently squandered her money on things like hair straightening treatments, plastic surgery, and fake nails while never paying her rent like ever. She’s declared bankruptcy twice that we know of, and she’s incapable of telling the truth about her finances, or basically anything. It’s exhausting and impossible to try and recap her messed up life, but go to some of those links if you want background, or just know that I’ve followed her antics for a while and that she’s a fraudster with a ton of kids. (I felt compelled to give some background, sorry that I went off there! It’s hard to do her media trail justice.)
So California may be investigating Octo for scamming the system. With that many kids she’s allowed to collect welfare if she makes $119k or less, but TMZ reports that she made nearly $200k last year and that the L.A. County Dept. of Welfare Fraud Prevention and Investigation is probing her finances. They report that she could get up to three years in prison, but you know she’s just going to get a stern talking-to and she’ll keep collecting those fat checks.
US Weekly reports that Octo is going to be on OWN network’s “Oprah: Where are they now” episode. This just goes to show how totally out of touch Oprah is. If you give a sh*t what lies spilled out of her overplumped trout this time, go over to US Weekly to read it. She calls her stint in p0rn “liberating,” blames her rehab stay on “exhaustion” and claims she was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder. When she checked into rehab she admitted that she was addicted to Xanax, she said that on the record through her rep to TMZ, but now it’s “exhaustion.” She’s never been able to get her story straight though. Rinse and repeat, but remember her 14 kids? Maybe this welfare investigation will be a kick in the pants to CFS, but I doubt it.
After I wrote all this I asked Kaiser to read it over the draft for me because I know I went off. She said I should add that Octo probably didn’t make $200k after taxes. My take is that even after taxes that should be more than enough to raise those kids, with some planning and budgeting. You know nothing is going to happen to this woman, though.
It’s always been sad for her kids. How she wasn’t deemed mentally unstable to begin with, for giving birth intentionally to that many babies at once, eludes me.
I don’t understand the psyche of people like Octomom and the Dungar family or whatever their names might be. Octomom is a headcase I’m sure but I don’t think the Dungar family is much better.
People might say it’s different because the Dungars are a married couple and perhaps can afford to take care of their brood financially but what about mentally and emotionally. Also with that many kids it’s quite difficult to give them each the individual attention that they may need from a parent. IMO, all the Dungars are doing is teaching their daughters that the only thing they are made for is popping out kids.
I bet these women vaginas must look like the Great Wall of China after it was knocked down.
Families like the Duggars used to be the norm. I have no problem with families who can afford and choose to have a lot of kids. I saw their show a few times years ago, and I never got the impression that any of the Duggar children were lacking attention or affection. They were respectful, didn’t act out, and all had responsibilities appropriate for their ages. Furthermore, siblings can provide a great amount of support for one another, and they’ll be around a lot longer than the parents. I do, however, have a problem with people who have children and cannot afford them (whether it’s 1 child or 14 like Octomom).
@ Natace: amen. There wasnt birth control but 50 years ago, and having children was unavoidable. Family is an institution that is all but completely destroyed and even looked at skeptically. Thats sad– I agree that if the family functions, its nobody’s business how many kids someone has. A small family where neither parents are there for their children is probably actually worse. Ie, a lot of modern families today. The kids are plopped in front of video games and tvs.
If the kids are happy, cared for, and it works, regardless of size– then its ok.
@teehee: There most certainly WAS birth control more than 50 years ago. Really. Cowboys used condoms (reusable ones, ew!) and the Romans used actual sheep intestines. Tortoise shells, cohosh, silphium, rhythm method, pulling out, out name it!
Just because the Duggars are zealous Xtians does not mean they aren’t a drain on society and the environment.
It may be technically possible to feed, clothe, and shelter that many children, but there is no way their emotional needs are being met. Parenting is more than just seeing how many times you can give birth–those 2 Duggar parents have a responsibility to ensure those children are equipped for life in the REAL world, not just in some Xtian, Discovery Channel fantasy land.
I’m not saying they are bad people, just that they’re not the saints everyone makes them out to be. And in their own way to me, seem just as crazy as Octo.
The Duggars aren’t any better. The older children carry the burden of caring for the younger ones. The state of arkansas flips the bill for their health insurance bc Jim bob served one term as a state rep. They have declared their home or part of it as a church which makes them tax exempt. I feel sorry for the kids sometimes. They don’t seem to have outside friends or get to experience normal kid and teenage stuff. I have a sister and if I had to spend all my time with her growing up, one of us would have died. Sometimes you need a breather from the people you are related to. I don’t think they get that.
The Duggars aren’t any better. The older children carry the burden of caring for the younger ones. The state of arkansas flips the bill for their health insurance bc Jim bob served one term as a state rep. They have declared their home or part of it as a church which makes them tax exempt. I feel sorry for the kids sometimes. They don’t seem to have outside friends or get to experience normal kid and teenage stuff. Sometimes you need a breather from the people you are related to. I don’t think they get that.
The Duggars aren’t any better. The older children carry the burden of caring for the younger ones. The state of arkansas flips the bill for their health insurance. They have declared their home or part of it as a church which makes them tax exempt. I feel sorry for the kids sometimes. They don’t seem to have outside friends or get to experience normal kid and teenage stuff. Sometimes you need a breather from the people you are related to. I don’t think they get that.
i don’t think it’s fair to assume their emotional needs aren’t being met simply because they have a lot of siblings. One could argue that an only child of a single parent gets a lot less attention than any one of the Duggar kids. It’s sad to me that a large family that seems to spend a lot of time living and working together gets ridiculed while families where the children are basically raised by strangers (via day care and the compulsory school system) and spend little time with their parents are seen as the norm and rarely questioned. I highly recommend reading John Taylor Gatto’s books Dumbing Us Down and Weapons of Mass Instruction. The information he shares regarding the birth of compulsory schooling (to create a mass of non-individuals who are easily manipulated into being “good consumers” and separate children from their parents so the state is a surrogate family) is fascinating. This was information I was never privy to while getting my master’s in education… it’s scary, but the effects are seen all throughout of culture today.
I have no idea about how duggards raise their kids but my grandfather was in a family with 20 kids so I sort of don’t judge too harshly if they can afford it. However my grandfather was raised during the ottoman times and in a small agricultural village so that makes a world’s difference I believe about access to birth control.
But from what I understood it was a rough life but all siblings chime in and help out (in the house and the field). This is why so many people had a lot of children. More children = more work done in the fields.
natace, for me, this has nothing to do with day care, or single parenthood or homeschooling. It is simply about the FACT that forcing your oldest tween and teen daughters to raise their infant siblings is wrong. It is morally and ethically wrong to not give those girls a fighting chance to learn some life skills other than child care and housework.
Every child should have the opportunity to develop his or her talents independent from her parents’ need to keep pooping out more kids. Chores are chores and are necessary in most households. But the childcare tasks placed on the older Duggar daughters by their mother is imo, irresponsibility bordering on abuse.
Sorry posted on the wrong thread but anyways;
@Katy and Marie glad to see someone’s post that what the Duggars are doing is just as wrong as Octomom. Someone commented that they have enough siblings to get emotional support from each other. Emotional support should come from their parents and that burden shouldn’t fall on the children. The Duggars are just as dilusional as Octomom if they think this is ok or fair to their kids. Yes I know that having this many children was the norm many years ago but so was slavery but that don’t make it right. Also didn’t the Duggars have a reality show; if they do they are exploiting their kids like Jon and Kate did. So they maybe able to support their kids on their own but I bet that paycheck from the reality show is a big plus and could be their motivation to keep producing. These people seriously has something wrong with them and so does people who think that this is okay.
It wasn’t at all the historical norm to have as many children as the Duggars, for two reasons: infant mortality, and maternal mortality.
Nobody expected to raise all their kids to adulthood until relatively recently in human history, and a woman who survived 20+ pregnancies would be vanishingly rare – the risks increase with every pregnancy/age, even with modern advanced healthcare.
If families that size were the norm in the past we’d see them now in the developing world. We don’t. We see women dying from repeated reproduction without medical assistance, and thousands of babies and children dying from communicable diseases that the developed world either doesn’t suffer from at all anymore, or no longer needs to regard as a threat.
And it’s just silly to say parents can devote more time to 20 kids than a single parent can to 1. There are only so many hours in the day, and with that number of kids, by the time you’ve factored in sleep how in the world can you afford them any meaningful individual time? Single working parents do at least have days off!
I’m a SAHM myself, by the way. I just resent it when people pretend there’s only one way to raise a child – for the record, women have historically always either worked from necessity, or had other working women care for their kids. The idea of a SAHM is a comparatively recent phenomenon in Western culture.
@natace14 I love how I come to Celebitchy for gossip and walk away with a book recommendation. Don’t know if I’ll agree with the books but should be an interesting read.
This woman is truly awful! The kids are the ones who suffer of course and some have probably been scarred for life. No one is coming out of this well off.
This woman needs a good old fashioned abuelita-chankla, tiger mom, military sergeant style ass-kicking. WHen I think my life is awful and I am such a loser, I think about her and I don’t feel so bad.
@Katy and Marie glad to see someone’s post that what the Duggars are doing is just as wrong as Octomom. Someone commented that they have enough siblings to get emotional support from each other. Emotional support should come from their parents and that burden shouldn’t fall on the children. The Duggars are just as dilusional as Octomom if they think this is ok or fair to their kids. Yes I know that having this many children was the norm many years ago but so was slavery and that don’t make it right. Also didn’t the Duggars have a reality show; if they do they are exploiting their kids like Jon and Kate did. So they maybe able to support their kids on their own but I bet that paycheck from the reality show is a big plus and could be their motivation to keep producing.
Yes. If they want that number of kids, fine, but don’t treat the older girls as unpaid nannies. Hire professionals or do it yourself – your daughters didn’t choose for you to reproduce.
She to me is a classic narcissist. She had all those kids, because she was lonely and an only child. It never seemed to click with her that these are individuals with needs. My impression was that theses kids were to fill up an empty space she had. My heart goes out to the kids. They were born into a crappy situation, and didn’t ask for this. She, in my opinion is selfish and unfit.
I think that’s definitely part of the reason why she had the kids but I think she also had a strong yearning for fame and fortune. With no discernible talent or apparent drive to work for it, she thought 8 kids at once would be an easy ticket to the celeb life.
I have always found her beyond appalling. Those poor kids.
^^This. I really think her mega-multiple pregnancy was planned for the sole reason of getting a reality show. Glad she didn’t one, though I hate that the children suffer because of her stupidity. I don’t think it would matter if she made $200k, $300k or more… she would spend it on herself before providing more for her kids.
Absolutely. I recall everyone being all “Oh, what a miracle, isn’t it wonderful…” until it was revealed she had six kids at home already and was an unwed mother with no job.
My feeling has always been that people giving birth to litters is not a miracle. It’s a science experiment gone awry. Kate Plus 8 wasn’t cute either, IMO.
She had all those kids envisioning a life of fame and fortune for them.
She thought they would all be on TV and be beloved by the world. Everyone would love the story of a single Mom doing her best for all of them.
I am sure she is shocked and dissapointed by how it really turned out. Everyone hates her for being so stupid and vain!
She should have just stuck to being a crazy cat lady then. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to see cats neglected and overcrowded, but I’d prefer that to humans.
with her, it’s always sad for her kids.
I feel SO awful for those kids. They deserve better than that cracked-out lunatic.
Right now the kids are small and they don’t need much. What is going to happen when they get older and they start needing lots of things like clothing, more food, more rooms, bicycles, toys, etc. How is she going to be able to provide?
Silly question: why do they spell porn with a zero; p0rn?
So your search engine doesn’t start advertising pr0n to you? I think, & someone told me certain words are flagged right? Idk,
It’s also so the site won’t be blocked by work firewalls that red flag certain words.
I used to work for a social service department years ago (in Canada), and we looked at a person’s gross income. A few would say it was unfair because, and that we should only look at their net income because that’s how much money they “actually” have. California social services is likely the same and will look at her $200,000 gross income, and not what she actually has after taxes etc.
Personally, I think the doctor who agreed to her fertility treatments should foot the bill for some of this. People like her give people who really do need supplemental help from the government a really bad name–but it’s not the kids’ fault and they likely do need help.
I agree. It’s the doctor’s fault that these kids were conceived. He should have to pay for his mistake. Probably not going to happen though.
I would love to see the doctor pay but I’m not sure how it could legally happen. I don’t know what the screening requirements were. I mean I think it’s great that doctors will give IVF to single women but when she came to him she already had six kids!! No red flags there idiot?!
He’s already lost his license to practice medicine. I agree he should be helping to support these children, but I suppose that could be setting a dangerous precedent of holding a fertility doctor responsible for child support.
I’m infertile and see a fertility doctor who will cancel a cycle if there are more than 3 eggs. He treats all of his patients very conservatively. I’m on the lowest dose of clomid and rarely have more than one egg per cycle. It takes longer to get pregnant, but the chance of multiples is greatly decreased. On the other hand, I know a couple who had an aggressive doctor and ended up
pregnant with 5! She ended up having selective reduction and gave birth to twins. I think there should be legal guidelines set for ART, because quacks like the Octo doc and my friend’s doc don’t have the ethical compass to tell them what is reasonable.
Sending good wishes, mortician!
First of all she was given approximately $2million when the octuplets were born along with many gifts. She has completely squandered that money. Suzi Ortman said she had enough money to take care of all the kids until they were 18. Secondly shhe has been helped numerous times and STILL chooses to live beyond her means. When you have no money you don’t go and get manicures and hair treatments and name brand clothes. SHE is responsible for where she is today.
This comes as no suprise to me; the woman is hideous. She came across really awful; I saw her on Dr. Phil and she was really a case – everything was about her and her “pride”, in not taking welfare. Plus, she does porn and stripping…not a good role model for her kids at all. I doubt the kids will get physically hurt, as she is on the radar. They are probably raising themselves and one another. Plus, boxing doesn’t pay the rent. She should have put her money toward an education, and not had a bunch of kids. I get irritated when people have more kids that they can afford. Her personality is just so icky.
She has student loans and grants out the wazoo for her education. I know she has a masters in psychology and was working toward her PhD if I’m not mistaken?
She is so self involved. I won’t pretend to know what it’s like to have 14 kids but she had 14 kids by choice. Every interview she’s ever done in her home has shown it to be a complete and total pig sty. The kids write on every surface–walls floors, furniture,etc. Everything is filthy and the kids are just running amuck. It just doesn’t appear to be a safe environment and I don’t understand why it’s deemed suitable just because she isn’t beating them. She’s not providing them with what they need. I can’t imagine these kids as adults when they’ve never had any structure or rules or individual attention. It reminds me of the kids that grow up in orphanages that end up unable to form bonds with people because they never had love or attention from people as children.
I’m sorry, but this is why the child welfare standards in this country are too low. basically, as long as you’re not beating or starving your kids, Child Services is loathe to remove them. Octo might not be an abusive mom in the sense that they are not being beaten or starved, but those kids are gonna grow up in a home with a mother who is mentally unstable, impulsive and pathologically dishonest. They are not gonna grow up feeling secure in their home. But what could be done about them? What family could take all of them if they were seized? Practically none, they’d have to be split-up.
I deal with child welfare daily in my job and you are exactly right. If a kid doesn’t have an eye ball hanging out of their head they don’t do much. So when I hear people say things like “oh they’ll just take your kids for nothing” I respond with “that’s weird because I’ve called them and begged them to remove clients who were being abused and nothing happens”. Her house reminds me of one of those specials you see on Romanian orphanages.
I understand your point in theory and I am sure there are tons of CPS workers who would like to do more but feel their hands are bound by the restrictions. Logistics make it difficult, there is a serious need for good foster parents. Sadly they may go through the psychologically difficult process of being separated from their parents, losing their home, their friends, and school to face a new type of abuse at the hands of a stranger or live with someone who sees them as a paycheck.
People want babies that’s why there is a wait list for them. Most people don’t adopt older children and ones that have been through abuse and trauma are even less likely to be adopted.
Can we please dispense with the idea that most foster parents are terrible or that placing your kid in the system will give them to somebody who only sees them as a paycheck? The vast majority of foster parents are decent. It takes a ton of work to take in kids who come from messed up backgrounds. Are there negligent foster parents? Yeah – but they are the minority. It generally takes a lot of heart to foster children. And most foster kids don’t get adopted because, unless the bio parents will sign over their own rights, getting rights terminated is a very long, very nasty legal process. So the kids can’t get adopted even if they want to, because their parents hold on to them. In many places, there are actually more families ready to adopt then kids. But that’s because most foster kids are still legally bound to their parents who won’t let them go.
Generally, kids are kept together if possible. In this case, however, that would probably be impossible, given their number. The second solution usually done is to place them all within a close geographic area and mandate that the foster families keep in contact and let them see each other.
Agree. Very few children in Australia get adopted out, there is just a revolving door of putting them in temporary foster care. The carers do a wonderful, thankless and tiring role in helping such children. I’m absolutely not criticising them. I don’t understand why the children are placed back into bad environments.
Surely the mindset has to change in removing really at-risk children and get them adopted out. Octomum has run out of chances. How many years are these children going to be allowed to be exposed to a bad environment? What sort of teenagers and adults are they going to turn into if they’re not helped now?
They need happy stable mentally capable people caring for them. That surely outweighs any “rights” she has.
I think they should take her kids away from her. So many people can’t have children and can give these kids what they need. And then she should be forced to get a job like the rest of us. And she should be forced to have her tubes tied. I cannot stand this woman and her fame whore ways. Those poor kids, my heart breaks for them.
This woman is the main reason why involuntary sterilization is not bad thing.
What’s really sad is that for as bad as these kids’ home life might be, it’s still better than being placed in the foster care system.
Oprah may just be having her on because she seems to be having a hard time getting A-list guests lately. Imo even when she does (Lance Armstrong) they’re not really interesting.
If Oprah continues scraping the bottom of the barrel for guests, she should at least snag entertaining D-listers like Samantha Brick.
Welfare scamming has been only one spur e if her income. Don’t forget the. 100k+ in student loans that she is not paying back (and she refuses to work). She gets every public assistance program possible, even though she has done interviews bragging about how much money she makes from her p0rn, interviews, photo shoots, endorsements, etc. She knows how to work the system! She collected several hundred thousand herself for a workers comp claim for an injured back. One day at the dr office claiming she was incapacitated and the next day she had her legs in the stirrups getting IVF! The workers comp report (public record online) paints the image of a skilled scammer!
Octomom has been on the Today Show claiming that when she is seen spending money at Lancôme, MAC, or a Brazilian Blowout that is HER money that she earned doing her opportunities. The STATE pays for the kids food and medical. I think this woman is disgusting.
Yes she is disgusting, this is why our bureaucratic legalistic welfare system is so disliked, not just by conservatives; people that genuinely need assistance at points in their life sometimes don’t get it, but this blob was able to get state assistance.
Definitely. I keep hearing more stories about able-bodied or financially-sound people abusing the system. I just can’t believe how easy we make it for them–it seems like there is no system of checks and balances in place.
The saddest part is that the people who really DO need financial assistance get stigmatized as “lazy” or “trifling” because of the assholes that rape the system.
Can’t stand the woman. She obviously had the children for attention and probably to have a reality show. I don’t even like to think that she exists;however, I realize that I took the time to click on the article and read it. Sigh.
If I were one of her many kids I would be begging the state to take me and adopte me to a normal person. I hate to say this but wouldnt they be better off in the system.
I’d be researching ways to divorce her a$$. Kids have divorced parents before. I’d be stealing money out of her wallet for an attorney.
I Am so disgusted by this parasite…
I think Octo’s whole scheme was to end up like Kate and Jon + 8 – a reality show, paid vacations, and fat checks to support her 14 kids. It didn’t pan out. And now the kids are the ones paying the price. I wish there were laws against crazy people having kids in search of fortune and fame. There aren’t. I also wish Child Protective Services had stricter guidelines, like taking kids away from crazy people in search of fame and fortune. It doesn’t. So, I hate to think what will become of those children. I’ve said this before on this site, I’m hesitant to mom-hate because I think it is harmful, but Octo is my one exception to this rule. I don’t think she is the kind of crazy that can be treated with medication. I think she is balls-to-the-wall permanently bonkers. No amount of treatment, psychotherapy, or meds can help her. She is the one mom that I will flat out hate because she did this sh*t on purpose. She intentionally had 14 kids to make money, no matter what psycho-babble reasons she claims to have had – it was for cash money. Those kids don’t stand a chance as long as she is the one mothering them. It’s really heartbreaking.
Even Jon and Kate supposedly did it for the money. Relatives have said Kate was obsessed with the story of the McCaughey family (they’re a family in Iowa who in the late 90s had 7 babies at once). They received a ton of gifts, money and help.
Ohhhh. I didn’t know! Interesting. I guess being a traditional 2-parent family makes a difference. Kate on her own probably would’ve garnered the same results as Octo.
What I can’t understand is why she still has custody of her children. She’s clearly not fit to parent.
My heart goes out to her babies. Some of them are special needs and I’m sure none of them are being taken care of properly.
Violet – there is a website where the caretaker who watched the tups for a few months gave manga h details about what she saw in the Solomon household. Obe of the WORST things I read from her time in that house was how Nadya treated her severely autistic son Aiden. In front of cameras she’s all kisses, but she actually told the nannies to scrape the food scraps off of the other kids plates into a bowl. & feed it to Aiden!!! How abhorrent!!!! She also told guests not to bother talking to him because he is autistic and cannot talk understand or talk back. SHE DISGUSTS ME!!!
I think more than one of her kids have special needs. But (and don’t scream at me if I’m wrong)… I’m beginning to think that some of their issues are environmental rather than biological.
It’s been proven that kids who don’t receive adequate attention and contact don’t develop key skills at an early age. (As demonstrated by the horror stories of kids in Romanian orphanages who were born healthy but effectively develop a disability through lack of brain development).
Judging from the footage I’ve seen, some of her kids seems quite disturbed. Even among the little ones, there’s always at least one of them who is crying/screaming with a horrible, traumatised look on their face.
How much of her kids’ special needs is nature, and how much of it is (a lack of) nuture?
Poor little buggers.
Oh my God. If this is true, someone from CPS could at least step in & find Aiden foster parents, even if they can’t get the others out of her sick clutches. Poor little guy. It is hideously depressing to think about these poor children. What kind of lives can they ever have? Nothing was done to find them decent, loving homes back when they were young enough for it to really count.
Multiples often have health issues. There is insufficient room for all the babies to fully develop and they are always born pre-maturely. As much as I dislike this woman her children’s health challenges are likely due to being premmie multis.
It’s really sad that the kids weren’t taken away at birth. Newborns can be adopted out.
By the time these kids are taken from this lunatic, they’re going to probably be shuffled between foster homes.
Sad. And I’m not going to get started on welfare/public assistance because it makes me just too angry and I’ll be grumpy for the rest of the day. I’ll just watch Judge Judy yell at some people for not working and all will feel right in the world
Agreed, they should have been taken when they were babies.
How come everyone thinks her kids should be taken away because she’s crazy? Do you know how many crazy people have kids? If CPS started taking kids away from people who are selfish, delusional, famewhores, etc., we’d have skyscrapers full of kids with no parents.
You don’t think a woman who gets herself pregnant with eight embryos – in addition to six existing children – is a special kind of bananas?
She may be all kinds of bananas, but unless they can prove she abused or neglected the kids, they have no legal grounds to take them away from her.
Seriously. I can’t stand this woman, either, but I’d love to know if everyone calling for CPS to take the kids from her are willing to take the kids of their hands. It’s easy to demand action when you’re not going to take any yourself (obviously, I mean “you” in the general sense of the word).
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I want to see them taken away from her so they could have some chance at a happy life & a reasonable future. I would just be glad to see 14 less neglected, traumatised children in this world. Nothing is ever going to make up for what is happening to them now. Their personalities are formed now—authorities waited too long to act. I can’t believe a child has to be nearly beaten or starved to death by their parent to warrant authorities stepping in & saying “Enough.” It’s a disgrace & it always will be.
As for there being lots of kids with crazy parents out there—yes, there are. But here are 14 that we know about. They’re not just invisible children with no exposure to the world. Everyone knows they’re growing up with a mentally ill mother & that is *not* okay. Since there’s no Octo-time-machine to prevent her from recklessly & selfishly having all these children, something must be done now to help them before they all end up institutionalized. How bad does it really have to get?
So flipping depressing for those kids who cannot be enjoying any degree of stability. I realize that it isn’t as simple as go in, remove kids, and reassign them (probably to several different homes since there are so many of them) to homes where the parents have an interest in parenting, but I just ache for these kids. Many parents with mental illness can create a loving, stable home; I don’t believe this woman is capable of that.
She also committed Worker’s Comp fraud years ago, claiming a cabinet fell on her. She’s totally MENTAL.
Those kids would be much better off in the system than with her.
Neither, I just don’t care.
I work at a daycare center and see parents who are unfit to care for two let alone one woman caring for umpteen kids by herself. Even with alittle help thats just crazy.
I don’t care how many kids you have. If you have make $119,000 you should not be eligible for welfare.
Has anyone actually read what the lady who watched the octuples for a few months last summer had to say about what went on in that household? Gina (not the Gina who was her Manager) was not paid, so she was not fired and seeking revenge on Nadya. Reading her story about exactly what she saw firsthand in that household is horrifying and will make you afraid for all 14 kids. There is a website where she took the time to type out pages and pages and pages of answers to people’s questions. It really opened my eyes to the conditions those kids live in everyday. I already despised Octomom, but now I fear for those kids. I’m glad anytime any sort of investigation is done because Nadya hides behind CA agencies being overworked and not looking too closely.
It is a timebomb as the first children are getting older. So many variables in play here. Are the older ones going to bolt at some point? hang in and help their baby sibs? Will the hold a vote and kick mom out and go it alone the boxcar kids 21st century. There are no easy answers or solutions I believe any help that comes to this family in cash form goes straight to mamma so the children
suffer.
Great breaking bad reference CB!