Octomom Nadya Suleman appeared on the Dr. Phil show in a two part special yesterday and Tuesday. She announced her plans to accept the free nursing care arranged by the Angels in Waiting service and talked about her new home and PR problems. Dr. Phil hyped it all to the Heavens in his typical tabloid TV style.

The nursing agency held a press conference yesterday to get some publicity and announce the logistical requirements of caring for eight newborns plus six children at one time. A spokesperson said that it would require 64 daily feedings, 6 nurses for the babies, and 11 nannies for all of Suleman’s 14 children. They say that Suleman will pay for the nannies, but that’s up to question. She’s also of course accepting donations through the Dr. Phil show and Angels in Waiting. Prior reports had the childcare costing $135,000 every month:

Representatives from Angels in Waiting detailed the care they’ll provide for Nayda Suleman’s octuplets in a Wednesday afternoon press conference.

The charity organization says the preemie tots will require 64 feedings a day, each lasting about 20 minutes. Six nurses will provide specialized care — including physical therapy — and recommends 11 nannies will watch over Suleman’s 14 kids.

Angels in Waiting staffers have coordinated with the octuplets’ medical team at the hospital to make sure everything is in place before the twins begin coming home (which could happen as early as this week; the babies will be released in sets of two), according to lawyer Gloria Allred and the charity’s founder, Linda Conforti West.

Suleman will cover the costs of the nannies and other living expenses, including formula and clothing. Angels in Waiting will pay for the nurses with private donations. If they don’t receive enough funds to cover the costs, they’ll provide care on a volunteer basis. They haven’t “crunched the numbers” on the monthly cost.

Allred, Conforti West and Annie Young, a nurse at the press conference, believe it will take about three months of constant care to get the octuplets “off to a good start.”

Donations can be submitted on Dr. Phil McGraw and Angels in Waiting’s (www.angelsinwaitingusa.org) Web sites. Retired L.A. Superior Court judge Dan Weinstein will oversee the money.

And despite Angels in Waiting at first refusing to allow TV cameras to capture the Suleman family, Allred alluded to some sort of public exposure of the octuplets for “transparency sake.” Conforti West is still adamantly against filming a reality show.

Angels in Waiting also revealed eight “principles” — or guidelines — of care, and matched each one up to a photo of an octuplet. The principles state that each child will be given shelter, education and medical services; Nadya and family won’t receive any money from the donations; and that if the family severs ties with the organization, all the money will go to other high-risk infants with whom the charity is working.

Conforti West also detailed some problems with Suleman’s new $564,000 home in La Habra, Calif. — which she called “not ideal.” The organization is currently sanitizing the heating and air conditioning system, among other baby-proofing measures.

[From US Weekly]

In a video that aired on Radar Online yesterday Suleman said that her father didn’t buy her new home for her despite the fact that he’s listed as the owner on the lease. She has also denied that her parents have lived with her for years, and claimed that her mother only moved in to help once she had to be hospitalized during her last pregnancy. Suleman’s mother will not be living with her in the new home, although you can bet she’d be begging her for help if she didn’t have a record-setting number of babies at once and all the free perks and cash that go along with that.

Yesterday TMZ had a breakdown of the cost of the outfit Suleman wore on the Dr. Phil show. She had on a $230 shirt and silver ballet flats that retail for nearly $200. She’ll need all the donations she can get if she wants to keep wearing designer clothes while an army of people watches her 14 kids for free. At least Angels in Waiting is taking pains to ensure that she’ll never get her hands on the money.

Nadya Suleman is shown at the bank yesterday and shopping at Target. Credit: WENN.com

The last we heard of Octuplet mom Nadya Suleman, her latest PR rep Victor Munoz quit, saying that she “got greedy,” was “nuts” and “depended on [him] for everything.” MSat aptly compared Suleman to Heather Mills, another delusional self-important character whose PR person quit and criticized her to the press.

Suleman will accept free 24 hour nursing care for the octuplets
Suleman told Radar last week that she didn’t want to free accept nursing care for her newborns as she would have to uproot her family. A representative from The Angels in Waiting agency claimed that Suleman turned them down because they wouldn’t accommodate a reality show she had planned. The nursing service has agreed to care for the newborns at home after Suleman moves, and she has decided to take advantage of the offer. It would normally cost $135,000 a month to provide round the clock nursing care for eight infants. Suleman will make the announcement that she’s accepted professional help in a segment to air on The Dr. Phil show today. It’s fitting that she granted an interview to that faux psychologist, who scammed to get Britney out of the hospital last year in the hopes of scoring an exclusive.

Octo Mom Nadya Suleman has accepted an offer from Angels in Waiting to help raise her 14 children, she announced in a taping of Dr. Phil that will air tomorrow and Wednesday.

According to Linda Conforti West, CEO and founder of Angels in Waiting, the agency will provide around-the-clock services of skilled neonatal intensive care nurses who specialize in premature infant developmental care. The kids will also receive psychological and physical therapies. The services are set to begin as soon as the octuplets are released from the hospital, and will be re-evaluated every six months.

“Nadya realized that she had to make every effort to care for the octuplets as well as the 6 children at home in a way that proved that she understood the enormity and complexity of the task ahead,” Dr. Phil said in a statement. “The plan in place, which could not have happened without attorney Gloria Allred and Angels in Waiting, affords all of the Suleman children a chance to grow and thrive. The childcare will be completely transparent, so that Kaiser Permanente and Child Protective Services will see that Nadya is seriously committed to her family.”

[From omg.yahoo.com]

Has new 1/2 million home
Suleman has a new $564,900 home in La Habra, California. Her last home, which was in her mother’s name, is in foreclosure after ten months of missed payment. Her father, Ed Doud, is listed as the buyer for the new home. Doud told Oprah two weeks ago that he had only $100 in his bank account. Suleman has been getting cash for interviews and photo licensing, but she declared bankruptcy last year and may have to rely on her father’s better credit in order to secure a loan. Her father also reportedly filed for bankruptcy last year.

Told Radar she hasn’t lived with her mother or father in years
In a taped interview segment that was posted to RadarOnline yesterday, Suleman said that it’s not true that she’s lived with her parents and she hasn’t lived with them for years.

“I haven’t lived with my mom in about 5-6 years. I haven’t lived with my father in 15 years, so that was a huge misconception. I was trapped in a hospital. My mom moved in when I left for the hospital. I was 24 weeks. I was doing everything for myself until I was 20 weeks pregnant. Then I got a nanny. No, I have not been supported by my family. I have been taking care of my children with whatever little resources I got. I guess people were judgmental because of the disability… it’s temporary.” [Transcribed from video on RadarOnline]

This is the woman who told her mother that her last pregnancy was a tumor and kept insisting that she wasn’t relying on taxpayer money despite the fact that she received monthly disability payments for half of her older kids and was on food stamps. Maybe in her mind she wasn’t living with her parents even though they were sleeping over every night. It’s hard to tell what’s true in this case except for the fact that this woman is a scamming liar.

Suleman is shown visiting the hospital on 3/7/09. Credit: WENN.com

You know a person has problems when their own public relations team starts talking smack about them. It happened to Heather Mills, and now it’s happening yet again to Nadya Suleman, otherwise known as Octomom. (A nickname I hate, since it makes her sound like some kind of superhero, which she clearly is not.) Suleman has burned through public relations rep number two in a matter of weeks.

Octo Mom Nadya Suleman is without a publicist — again.

Victor Munoz tells Usmagazine.com that he quit as Suleman’s rep Friday night.

“It just got to be too much,” he says. “It’s pretty much a free for all over there right now. They are freaking out right now.

“Not to sound arrogant, but those people depended on me for everything,” he continues. “You have no idea what I’ve had to do for these people.

“Nadya got real greedy. This woman is nuts,” he adds. “This I can say: what ultimately destroyed the business arrangement was personal reasons.”

Munoz — who plans to meet with his lawyers Monday to go over the terms of his contract and confidentiality clause — did not go into further detail.

Suleman’s first publicist, Joann Killeen, stepped down after her firm received over 100 graphic e-mail and voicemail threats.

[From Us Weekly]

That sounds like a job from hell. There’s no saving this woman’s horrible public image because she’s her own worst enemy. It seems like every day – hell, every hour – there are new, unsavory facts coming to life about this woman and her family. It’s a PR rep’s worst nightmare. There’s no way to stop things like those tapes from a 911 call from hitting the papers – not the way today’s media works. But to have to deal with a crazy client and get death threats for it? Forget it. It’s not worth it.

Nadya Suleman is shown heading to the hospital on 3/8/09. Credit: Fame Pictures

TMZ has audio of Octomom Nadya Suleman calling 911 after her five year old son, JJ, went missing for an hour last year. Suleman really loses it and is understandably crying “where’s my son?” Toward the end of the call she’s saying that she’s going to kill herself. After she repeats it several times the 911 operator asks her to not say that in front of her other children and to keep herself together. Nadya’s son comes back while she’s on the phone with 911 and she is choking and sobbing. The child had just gone for a walk with his nanny. It really makes you feel for her, and it also shows that she’s susceptible to getting overwhelmed and freaking out despite the kind of unflappable clueless demeanor she presents to the press.

There is audio of a second 911 call in which one of her kids calls 911, hangs up, and then the operator calls back to see what’s wrong. A child answers the phone and says there’s a babysitter there. The grandmother eventually gets on the line. It’s unclear why the kid said that a babysitter was there if they were being watched by the grandmother.

On saying she would kill herself: she was pregnant, hormonal
Nadya was played the call during a taped interview with RadarOnline. She said that she was pregnant at the time – of course – and was “hormonal.” She said “If I were not pregnant, I know I would not react like that.” She said “I’ve never had suicidal ideations” and claimed not to remember saying she would kill herself. Suleman looked a little shocked at first to hear that the tape was out, but then quickly acted like it wasn’t a big deal, saying “if it’s public, it’s public. I’m not going to apologize for it.”

It wasn’t the first time Suleman called 911 to report a missing child, according to US Weekly, which reports that she had another incident in which one of her daughters went missing. Cops were called to Suleman’s home a total of 8 times in the past years for various reasons.

Shopping birth video for $1 million
Yesterday the news came out that Suleman was trying to sell the video of her birth of the octuplets for a whopping $1 million. She still maintains that a reality show would be “exploitation,” but her children’s birth will be available to the public forever if she sells it to the highest bidder. She has also posed for multiple photo shoots with her older children and the octuplets.

Nadya Suleman is shown out with two of her children on 3/2/09. Credit: Fame Pictures

Octomom Nadya Suleman has a new video blog up on Radaronline. MSNBC’s the Scoop had some advance details, claiming that Suleman’s kids were punching and biting her, and I wanted to wait until the video was available until reporting this. It really wasn’t that bad. It shows her autistic son, Aidan, trying to get her attention by squeezing her neck, holding her hair, and trying to bug her. She handled it well and soothed her son. The more videos I see of this woman the more human she seems. I still don’t like her, but I’m not as outraged as I first was when she hit the scene.

Proud to be paying for own home, getting off food stamps
Nadya told Radar that she’s getting a new home, a 2,8000 square foot house with four bedrooms. She was proud of the fact that she paid for it herself, likely with all the easy money she’s getting from interviews and photo licensing. She also talked about the “welfare” issue, saying that it was technically true when she claimed she doesn’t get welfare because food stamps aren’t considered welfare. She also seemed proud that she’s about to get off of food stamps and all government assistance, something that may not have been possible for her if she just didn’t have a record-setting number of babies. The home where Nadya was living with her mother is set to go up for auction on Thursday due to ten months of missed mortgage payments.

Calls it a “lie” that she turned down free nursing care for want of a reality show
Despite the way she seems to court the press, in yesterday’s video blog Nadya said it’s a “lie” that she turned down free 24 hour nursing care because she was hoping for a reality show. She said it was more about the fact that she would have had to bring her children to a different area and climate to take advantage of the services and that she considered it but didn’t want to uproot her family. She is instead working with volunteers at her children’s school, and said that the other mothers there understand her situation. Nadya kind of shows her slippery side when talking about the reality show, saying on one hand that it’s “exploitation,” but on the other that she wouldn’t rule out some kind of “documentary-style” show. I bet that documentary involves a high six figure amount.

Fears “feeling like a failure as a mother”
Radar also has scanned pages from Nadya’s diary, in which her thoughts are scrawled on yellow legal pads. It includes such revelations as “I fear feeling like a failure as a mother; that my choice to have another child, after 6 already, was a sign of poor judgement. Maybe I never should have made that decision in the first place. Nevertheless, I know how much I love my kids I would never intentionally do anything to hurt them. Did my choice to have another (let alone another 8!) hurt them in ways I will never understand? Am I a failure as a mom?”

Note that she doesn’t call herself a failure, just that she’s questioning it. This was written after her interview with Dr. Phil and it sounds more like she’s trying to ingratiate herself to the public based on their negative perception of her than experiencing a smidgen of self awareness. In Nadya’s world, everything is fine and her behavior is always justified.

Cops were called to her home 8 times in the past year, has former CPS investigation
TMZ has details about a former complaint against Nadya by a neighbor to Child Protective Services last summer. The neighbor claimed that the kids were not clean or fed, and the case was closed as “unfounded.” The cops were also called to her home eight times in the past year.

Nadya told Radar she’s not afraid of losing any of her children as she’s doing what she needs to do and working with the agencies. She’s probably right. She loves her kids and is providing for them in her own warped way in which everything is always ok and she just doesn’t understand why she can’t have as many as she wants.

Nadya is shown out with her spokesperson on 3/2/09. She went to a local car shop to have her windows tinted while a nanny watched her children. Credit: Fame

I don’t think Octomom Nadya Suleman has gotten one single bit of good press. I’m not saying she’s necessarily deserving of any, but you’d think she’d be able to get someone to say something good about her at least once. Unfortunately for Nadya, she’s making some really bad decisions – one right after the other. Actually, I don’t think she’s made a single good decision – which explains the lack of any good press.

It’s long been theorized that Nadya wants a reality show. Some people speculate that’s how she plans on supporting her hefty brood of 14, while others have even theorized that’s WHY she got implanted with so many embryos in the first place.

Now to further add to the negative publicity, Nadya has very stupidly turned down an offer for free 24-hour nursing care. The nonprofit group that made the offer says Nadya lost interest in taking them up on their incredibly good deed once a reality show was no longer on the table.

The mother of the California octuplets has let an offer for free, 24-hour nursing care by a nonprofit group lapse.

The founder of the group Angels in Waiting said Nadya Suleman seemed to lose interest in the offer after her request to do a reality show was ruled out.

The lawyer for the nursing group, Gloria Allred, said she has filed a request for an investigation with Los Angeles County Child and Family Services into how Suleman would care for 14 children. Suleman is unmarried, unemployed, lives with her parents and receives food stamps and other government assistance.

Suleman’s new volunteer spokesman, Victor Munoz, was interviewed by TV’s Dr. Phil McGraw on CNN’s “Larry King Live” show Friday night and sounded open to considering the offer.

Munoz said he didn’t know what was offered because he has been too busy dealing with preparations for the release of the infants from the hospital, which could begin in less than two weeks.

[From KFOX14]

I’m guessing Angels in Waiting wouldn’t let their nurses appear on a reality show, and that’s when Nadya decided to decline their offer. The story’s phrasing was a little ambiguous on that detail, but they obviously don’t have the authority to rule out a reality show for Nadya, though they can refuse to participate in one.

I’ve tried to show a bit of empathy for this woman, although she makes it very, very hard. It’s like she’s trying to give the public as many reasons as possible to hate her. And she is so utterly and completely clueless. Not just in terms of reality – her Pollyanna complex is astounding – but in terms of her public image. As long as Nadya keeps behaving this way, she is ensuring that any remaining goodwill will be quickly drained. And considering she’s going to have to rely on others to pull her through this – whether it’s the kindness of strangers or the government – I think she’s further ensuring that the state will take her kids from her sooner rather than later.

Here’s Nadya Suleman outside her home with her mother and father. Nadya fights through the media crowd before going to the hospital to visit her eight babies on February 24th. Images thanks to BauerGriffinOnline.

Radar Online is really keeping it coming with the Octomom videos. Over the past two days, they’ve posted videos of Nadya Suleman sitting down and arguing with her mother, Angela, Jerry Springer-style. They promise more to come so maybe they’re saving the smackdown for last.

Radar has a new video today that shows the inside of Suleman’s house set to dramatic music. They call it “shocking” and it does look messy and cluttered, with scribbles on the wall and a lot of stuff around, but it’s hard to tell if it’s unsafe. She could use some help organizing her kids’ toys and clothing but it’s not terrible or anything. I’m of the opinion that people shouldn’t impose their living standards on others, particularly if they have a lot of kids. We had neighbors with five kids and their house was similarly messy. If you’re not in a position of having to care for that many kids without help, don’t judge. I’ve seen much worse on those clutter cleanup shows and it can be hard to figure out how to organize everything and take the time to do it when you’re overwhelmed like that. The real issue is that they don’t have enough space for even six children in that three bedroom one bath home that already in foreclosure.

According to Radar, the hospital is doing an at-home inspection to make sure the house is baby and child proof before the octuplets are sent home. Suleman is said to fear that the hospital won’t release the babies to her, but it just sounds like they’re doing due diligence to make sure they’re covering their bases for this high profile case. They’re recommending that the octuplets sleep in four cribs so that they can sleep two to a crib like twins.

The three largest Suleman octuplets will be going home in about 10 days, but RadarOnline.com has learned that will only happen after the hospital has inspected the home to make sure it’s been childproofed.

The hospital wants improvements to be made in the home like covering electric sockets and installing smoke detectors.

Part of the living room will be blocked off to turn it into a children’s playroom.

Although the family has been looking at eight-bedroom, four bathroom houses in the Whittier area, the hospital says there’s no reason all eight babies can’t go to the existing house, if it’s not foreclosed on them.

Instead of eight cribs, there will be only four. Child experts have told the family that it helps child bonding if the babies are treated like sets of twins and two of them share a crib for the first six months.

The family will begin interviewing nannies next week.

[From RadarOnline]

In the video, Suleman says she has been offered help from the mothers at her children’s school and that she’ll have a pool of 40-50 volunteers to help with the babies. At first she tells her mother that she’ll get help with the babies for about a year, then she changes it to 6-9 months as if she’s trying to make it seem like she really doesn’t need the support.

After watching this video, I’m starting to slightly warm up to this woman. She’s definitely not sane and she needs a dose of reality, but her kids are cute and you can tell she loves them in her narcissistic way. Her mother is a piece of work, too, and she had to get her warped sense of entitlement from somewhere.

Commenter Len said something that really sums up Octomom’s PR problems for me “if [she] would have just kept her mouth shut from the get go, she would have been offered tons of support, free diapers, the minivan, the works. People are willing to help, people are not willing to be played. She over-shared and she overplayed her hand.”

This family is getting paid tens of thousands for photo licensing and for arguing in these taped segments. They’ll get by if their mother doesn’t squander it all away.

So now we get to see the inside of her home and see her argue with her mother. Suleman said she didn’t want to “exploit” her children with a reality show, but she’s certainly exploiting her relationship with her mom in these videos and opening herself up to criticism by showing how they live. It’s better than doing adult films.

Octomom Nadya Suleman has gotten quite the creepy job offer: porn. Creepy, but not unexpected. Anytime a woman under fifty years old is in the news for anything, you can pretty much guarantee that either a porn film company or a nudie magazine is going to make that woman an offer to take off her clothes… and in Suleman’s case, they asking her to go a bit further.

Adult film studio Vivid Entertainment has offered Nadya $1 million and a year of health insurance for her passel of kids if she agrees to star in one of their films.

Octomom needs money, the world needs porn. It’s a match made in the Valley heaven. Or so think the opportunistic porn peddlers at adult powerhouse Vivid Entertainment, who have made Nadya Suleman a halfway-decent indecent proposal, offering the cash-strapped mother of 14 $1 million, plus a year of health insurance, in exchange for shaking her babymaker in a XXX film.

“Nadya obviously needs income to ensure that her children are secure, so we are offering her up to $1 million to act in one movie,” says Vivid cochair Steven Hirsch. “We’ve had many single mothers work with us over the years, and their income from Vivid has been very important to them. We would schedule production so the movie could be shot in less than one week.”

And they say chivalry is dead. “There is a tremendous amount of interest in Nadya, and we can help her capitalize on that interest and put some real cash in her bank account,” Hirsch said, adding that, offscreen at least, they would do their best to make sure Suleman wasn’t put into any compromising positions. “As with our Vivid Girls, she would have her choice of partners, including ‘Octodad.’ “

[From E! News]

I don’t even want to know who “Octodad” is. And I’ve learned not to look up porn stars unless you’re braced for some really unsavory search results. So I’m going to let that mystery go.

I can imagine few things more inappropriate and tacky to offer. Nadya’s convinced she can make enough money off a book to support her kids. But even the $1 million Vivid is offering isn’t going to last all that long with 14 kids, several with special needs. I don’t know how Nadya thinks she can make a living on a book, unless she plans on writing long-term. And as her mother point out, when is she going to get the time to do that?

Nadya filmed a show with Dr. Phil, the first part of which aired today. She said she’s afraid the hospital won’t let her take the octuplets home from the hospital since she has no job, too many kids, and likely won’t have a home in a few weeks.

Suleman sat down with the marginally less exploitative Dr. Phil McGraw this week, and revealed fears that the hospital will not release her octuplets until she has proven she can provide them with adequate care and living arrangements—this, in the wake of reports that she is being evicted from her home for failing to make good on more than $23,000 in mortgage payments.

The babies are currently receiving care at Los Angeles’ Kaiser Permanente Medical Center. Suleman, who currently has no job and who has been receiving government assistance for her six older children, sat down with Dr. Phil for a two-part special, the first of which airs today.

Staying true to straight-talk form, the good doctor didn’t hold back in his critique of the mother. “I see somebody I do believe is very loving, but I see somebody that has such a Pollyanna disconnect with real-world realities, and what she’s getting ready to face, it’s like she’s on a Disney ride.” Dr. Phil told Suleman, “If you don’t have plans in place, you need to say so, so we can help…People need to know you get it.”

“I think I’ll fully get it when they are ready to come home,” she said.

[From E! News]

The thing is, the octuplets won’t be “ready to come home,” if Nadya doesn’t have a plan. Without a home, the hospital probably won’t let her take them. And she needs to get her act together and come up with a long-term plan, too.

Dr. Phil was being generous, saying she has a “Pollyanna disconnect.” It’s not untrue, but that’s the kindest way one could put it. He likes to get sponsors on board in exchange for long-running publicity, and I’m guessing he’s going to offer her some kind of help, but it won’t last forever. I really wonder what Nadya thinks she’s going to do in ten years when everyone’s lost interest? Sell her lip implants on eBay?

I hope the hospital is very, very cautious in releasing these babies, and makes sure they don’t go home with Suleman until she has a safe, clean home and can provide for them.

Here’s Nadya Suleman and some of her children shown at the park on Sunday. Images thanks to BauerGriffinOnline.

Octuplet mom Nadya Suleman’s father, Ed Doud, was on Oprah yesterday. The guy was really subdued and a little boring and he made excuses for his daughter throughout. You could see how he enabled her to have so many children just as he insisted that he kept telling her not to do it. Ed admitted he spoiled Nadya rotten as a child, and he seems to have continued that into her adulthood.

Nadya was invited on Oprah contrary to her statements that she would have welcomed the chance
Doud was invited on Oprah after he contacted producers. Contrary to what Nadya said about wanting to go on Oprah, she was indeed invited according to the talk show queen, who said “My team had been asking to do an interview with her.” I bet they weren’t paying enough.

Likens Today interview to kidnapping, said Nadya was still drugged up at the time
Nadya’s father said it wasn’t a kidnapping per se when he daughter was interviewed by Ann Curry, but he sure described it like one. “They took her out of the hospital by midnight to a secret location. They did not even give her a chance to rest, to sleep, where she’s still under medication and not feeling well.” [via US Weekly]

On how he found out his daughter was pregnant with so many babies
Doud described how he heard that his daughter was pregnant with what was thought to be seven babies. His ex-wife called him up while he was working in Iraq to say that Nadya was pregnant and in the hospital. He then decided to come back. He called the fact that Nadya had eight healthy babies a “gift from God.”

As for whether he was ok with Nadya getting pregnant all those times, he said he was ok with “maybe one or two” and called more than that “irresponsible.” He said he had a talk with Nadya about how expensive it was to raise children back when she just had two.

Doud has just $100 in the back
Ed Doud said he had $100 in the bank and could only stay for one or two weeks before he had to go back to work in Iraq. He got choked up when he said “do I really want to be 10,000 miles away from my grandchildren that I love?”

On telling Nadya’s doctor that he was putting a burden on their family
Ed said he answered the phone once when the IVF doctor called for Nadya, only to find out that his daughter was pregnant for the fourth time. It turned out to be twins. Ed told the doctor that he was putting an enormous strain on the family by allowing Nadya to get pregnant again, and the doctor kept saying “I did not know, I did not understand. I’m sorry” The doctor’s excuse was that Natalie was very intelligent and educated. He went on to enable her to get pregnant twice more.

Nadya always promised “no more” after each child
Ed said he “always” had a conversation with Nadya about her level of responsibility in continuing to have children, but that she said “she knows what she’s doing, she loves the children, she wants more, but ‘this is it, no more.’ Always. Every time this happened, ‘that’s it, no more.’”

On the babies being given by God
As for whether they need help, he said they do, and “do not punish my daughter for what she had done. Do not punish the babies because they were given by God.”

“If God did not want this to happen, he could have destroyed these embryos when they implanted in her before they were successfully born.”

Oprah asked “Doesn’t God give people choices?”

The audience applauded and Ed said “absolutely.”

Oprah said “She chose to go to a doctor and get these babies implanted. And she chose to have six implanted. She made that choice, and now that the babies have come, everyone says ‘Well it’s God’s will.”

Ed answered “It is God’s will. If God did not want these babies to survive – that’s God.”

Oprah pressed “Was it God’s will for her to make that choice,” and Ed said “Yes. It is religious. She has embryos, frozen embryos. To her, these are her babies.”

Dr. Oz calls Nadya “selfishly delusional,” says children face health problems
Dr. Oz came on and was very animated. He said that “ultimately this is a form of cruelty [to the children]”

He also said that Nadya was “a very bright woman, but selfishly delusional.

“There is a relatively small chance that all eight of those kids will grow up to be normal adults. There’s going to be a chance of cerebral palsy, developmental delays, emotionally, mentally, vision problems, hearing problems. These kids would fit into my palm. To think that they would be able to grow normally despite being in the hospital and getting all this care they’ve got is unlikely.”

“This is a major failure in professionalism. What the physician did… was not fair. When you put six embryos in a patient you now have seven patients… you risk those lives by implanting them all at the same time.”

I really liked what Dr. Oz said about Nadya after a woman chimed in from Washington via Skype to defend her.

“The reason I think folks are nervous and anxious about this situation is they want to help the kids, but to help the kids you’ve got to go through the mom, and you’re not sure you trust the mom.

“If I send $100 to mom right now is that going to go off for a pedicure or to help the child?”

Ed raised his hand and said “Send it to me.”

Photos from Oprah.com

Yesterday we covered what turned out to be part one of Radar Online’s taped argument between Octomom Nadya Suleman and her mother, Angela. Angela has worked for the better part of a decade caring for Nadya’s six older children. Angela and her ex-husband, Ed Doud, realized their daughter was obsessed with having babies and asked her IVF doctor to please stop working with Nadya. They had to declare bankruptcy and move in with their daughter when the financial stress of caring for her ever-increasing number of children got to be too much. Angela is set to lose the family home to foreclosure on March 5.

Nadya never told her mother about a single one of her pregnancies until it was obvious
In the interview, Angela said that Nadya never told her that she was pregnant with any of her children, and called her “sneaky.” She explained that when she asked her daughter about her growing stomach this time, she said it was a “tumor.”

Nadya responded as we’ve grown to expect from her – she got pissy.

Nadya: “I don’t apologize for having all my children and I never would.”

Nadya plans to make enough money from her book
As for how she’s going to get the money for care for all these kids, Nadya said, “I’m a good writer, and I always planned on writing book about the challenges associated with raising a child with autism and the other kids.” Her mother asked “How are you going to find time to write?”

“Middle of the night,” Nadya answered. “If I can experience something so extraordinary that people can’t even wrap their minds around it… I feel as though that has given me the strength….

“I have to wrap myself in a bubble and my family and not allow other people’s perspectives to affect me… that would be the epitome of selfishness to consider having even one more.”

On whether she’ll stop having kids: she has no choice
Her mother said “She’s obsessive compulsive and she needs to keep doing this. Is 14 enough?”

Nadya hesitated and Angela rolled her eyes, “Well, I don’t have any frozen embryos and I think… I keep hearing the word responsibility… so I have no choice. I have to delve completely into the role of motherhood.”

On people telling her the octuplets should be given up for adoption
[Gets indignant] “I have to disagree with anyone who has the audacity to say that any of these children should be adopted. I have more love for these children than I think almost… well many parents would have just as much love. This is something that I find to be really a joke… this is so sensationalized it’s not real to people…

“People can’t comprehend just like my mom can’t comprehend why I’m not worried. I do have strong faith that I will find a way.”

This isn’t the end of this very staged argument and Radar promises more segments to come. I’ve just watched Suleman’s dad’s interview on Oprah and will be covering that shortly. It’s hard to resist this story of the delusional child hoarding sociopath, the modern equivalent of the old woman in the shoe. Oprah’s Dr. Oz had some well spoken harsh words for Suleman that seemed to echo a lot of people’s thoughts on the matter.

You can watch the video on RadarOnline.